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Falklands: multi-disciplinary plan to help tackle veterans’ trauma

Wednesday, July 10th 2013 - 17:44 UTC
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Archaeologists, historians, former service personnel and mental health professionals are meeting in London to discuss a plan to use archaeology to tackle war trauma. The plan is the idea of University of Glasgow academic Dr Tony Pollard and is centred on the Falkland Islands conflict. Read full article


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  • Captain Byron

    My guess is that in most places they'll dig up a lot of unfired Argentine ammunition, as well as all the other items too heavy to carry when running away. No point sending Argentine veterans on an archaeological dig, as soon as they realize they're in a trench they'll jump out and run off.

    Jul 10th, 2013 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    To face paste traumas is bad enough in its self, but to re-face your nightmares-
    In unreal circumstances may not be as easy or wanted as some of these Archaeologists, historians
    May think,

    It may work for some, but for others facing hell 2nd time around may not be acceptable,

    Let hope what ever they may hope to find , they do it respectfully and with dignity-

    And let’s hope it has a positive impact on those sufferers of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder…


    Jul 10th, 2013 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    Oh yeah, my heart bleeds.....
    Maybe you should have read the small print
    You may have to kill......or you may be killed or wounded
    What did you really expect, what did you think being a professional soldier was all's what they pay you to do!
    A career choice, a choice that was yours, none of you were conscripts!

    Jul 10th, 2013 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    That is a very churlish, dare I say Argentine way of viewing things. Few of us can even imagine what they saw and endured.
    The UK cares about the welfare of its soldiers unlike Argentina that abandoned its own soldiers to starve and die of exposure.
    This article is actually a very good example of the difference between us and Argentina and why we will never let it happen again.

    Jul 10th, 2013 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Not the ones on Tumbledown, they were regulars from the 5th Marine Infantry Battalion. 5 BIM. Not conscripts.

    WGAF anyway, they were responsible for the entire conflict. How they man their armed forces is their business.

    Oh! And I think you will find that some of their men also suffered and still suffer from PTSD.

    Jul 10th, 2013 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    @3 A_Voice

    You are a pathetic little troll.
    A pathetic little troll that has to hide behind multiple screen names/aliases, maybe you should try another A-Squeak.

    Jul 10th, 2013 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    I was wrong about 5BIM seems they also had conscripts serving alongside their regular marines. Still meant to be their best battalion though. Them and the Para.

    Jul 10th, 2013 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • alan

    @3 Not everybody in the army is there to kill. Being an expert you will know that Surgeon Captain Richard Jolly was awarded medals by the UK and Argentian goverments for treating ALL wounded even in the most hostile of conditions.

    Jul 10th, 2013 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @3 ArgieVoiceof Thinkedover

    And who put the unwitting teenage conscripts in the line of fire?

    Not to mention abusing them physically and sexually, get real.

    Jul 10th, 2013 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #3 stink, outside of latam, countries do not have their military because they did not drop them out of helicopters, or took their citizens for one way drives in green Ford Falcons. So you hate your militray to the point of decimating them that you cannot defend yourself as a nation. No fair......nothing is wanted in that primitive continent......maybe CHina wants your resources and iran your trade.

    Jul 10th, 2013 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    And of course you'd know stink being the veteran you are do yourself a favour and shut up you have nothing to say when you have something to be proud of come back to me until then do one

    Jul 10th, 2013 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    What's wrong folks? Did I say something that wasn't true?
    Or is it, the truth hurts?
    It takes a certain kind of person that would want to voluntarily put themselves in a position where they MIGHT have to commit legal murder.
    Then bleat about it when they find it..............traumatic!
    No one forced them to join!

    Jul 10th, 2013 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    You are a premeditated idiot. Most people serve in the military out of a sense of honor to serve their country and protect their follow countrymen. Unlike your military that throws citizens out of helicopters. I can understand why you hate your military. It's a shame I never met you in a free fire zone.

    Jul 10th, 2013 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @12 AVoice of Thinks

    Showing, not only your ignorance, but your lack of compassion for fellow human beings.

    That's like saying when a fireman is killed or injured in the line of duty, the rest if the firefighters shouldn't be affected because it's their own fault and no one forced them to do it.

    Those who serve in the Armed Forces CHOOSE to put themselves in harms way to defend others. Just like the British troops in 1982 did. They risked their lives to save the people of the Falklands from a murderous military Junta, and the people of Argentina who were fully supportive of their planned ethnic cleansing.

    Those who serve in the Armed Forces have to risk many things, including their lives, and have to have courage, something that you are lacking in spades.

    The British Army lives by these value and standards:

    Selfless commitment
    Others- Respect them even the enemy

    These are the values that every British Solider aspires to.

    You wouldn't understand that.

    You also wouldn't understand that it is the duty of the country to look after its service personnel when they are sick, injured or wounded in some way. Mental illness, especially post traumatic stress disorder is a wound that cannot be seen from the outside, but is still as real a wound as someone who has been shot.

    You really should be ashamed of yourself for your posts, but that would mean that you would have to have respect (you don't even have self-respect let alone any for other people), compassion, which you lack (maybe you're a sociopath) and honour, which you definitely lack.

    Go and talk with some Argentine veterans of the Falklands war. See how they been abandoned and ignored by Argentina. You should be ashamed.

    Jul 10th, 2013 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    Great fireman analogy .....I'm sure they all join to commit legal murder!
    When is murder not murder? when your government says you can!
    Your whole post is ethical nonsense!
    The Army is a career.....a job and they get paid to do it.....their choice., THEIR Choice!
    The majority of people have the common sense to not join the Armed Forces as they are quite aware of the risks and the moral ethics!
    The Cap crept in, crapped and crept out again!
    If you're gonna be a smartass, first you have to be smart. Otherwise you're just an ass.

    Jul 10th, 2013 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest


    you're wasting your time with Señor Think and his cowardly Multi-puppets.

    He has shown time and again, his lack of compassion for his fellow Argentinians and their war veterans.
    In fact, unless he can get mileage out of their martyrdom, he shows only disdain for them and the Veterans.

    He has no respect for anyone, but walks around with a huge chip on his shoulder, bitter and dispossessed.

    Yes, he fits the “Sociopath” description,

    but Think, don't imagine for a minute that Elaine or Isolde find you “sexy”.


    Jul 10th, 2013 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    @ 15 A_Mouth

    So, if somebody is about to rape you, you would just take it, right?

    Because there is no such thing as defending oneself, right?

    Jul 10th, 2013 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    I'm getting real worried about you Troy.......that's twice on this thread you have mentioned sex and on the other thread........have you got problems that you want to talk about.......I'm a good listener!

    Jul 10th, 2013 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    @18 A_Mouth

    And if you're all sore from it, don't come crying to me dipshit, or anyone else!

    You probably deserved it.

    You might have even liked it a little.

    Jul 10th, 2013 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    I see you like talking it the images they conjure in your mind?......perhaps you are on the wrong site

    Jul 10th, 2013 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    “What's wrong folks? Did I say something that wasn't true?”

    No as per usual you don't say a great deal at all!

    Just degenerated into another Argie troll. So droll but sorta nice that you are pretty much the best that Argentina can count on these days.

    Jul 10th, 2013 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    Oh I don't know at least I was commenting about the article.......unlike you.......I'm bored now......all easy meat on this thread.......yawn......time for bed.
    AVoice has left the building.

    Jul 10th, 2013 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @21 Anglotino

    “Just degenerated into another Argie troll. So droll but sorta nice that you are pretty much the best that Argentina can count on these days.”

    You may be too lavish with your praise, but funny that their “best” is mentally-ill !

    Too funny!

    Jul 10th, 2013 - 11:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Troy is correct....stink/think/a-voice/a-hole.....all the same, he is not worth the effect, breath or finger muscle to respond to someone that is forced to take an anti military position. His own country cannot defend itself. When the his military was somewhat of a force, it was turned on it's own the nazi's. What can one expect of a country that mothered and nursed the nazi's......they were brave military also killing their own people.
    He has no idea of the brotherhood of people who served their country. And I would also so of the one's that were forced to serve in the Argentine Army and are now a forgotten piece of shit to stink and his countrymen. Even enemy soldiers come face to face years later with a certain respect and knowledge of a follow soldier.
    You call it murder a-hole? Defending one's land from invaders like the RG's in 82? Fighting the Japanese........fighting radical muslim terrorists? Someone enters your home......I can easily see that you have neither the mental fortitude nor inclination to defend your family. Sit on your latam brown ass and laugh at everyone......but it is you who possess'es nothing, your countrymen and leaders is not anything of human value, never was and never will be anything. We all understand you a-voicehole. You strike out each day at everyone not like you all because of one thing. Each and every day you wake to a reality that eats at you like a growing look into the mirror and realize you woke again and are still an argentine.........your anger of being a citizen of an underdeveloped country with thieves running the government overwhelms you each morning. This is the highpoint of your entire being. Yes stink....we all understand your anger which is why your words are meaningless. Though I do enjoy shitting on you say.

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    @23 Troy
    @24 Captain Poppy

    Yes another poster that started off all high and mighty and has degenerated to nothing more than a bored troll that walks around for easy pickings.

    He is so easily bored. Not surprising as people of limited intelligence usually get bored quite easily unless they're hypnotised by facile entertainment. It is no wonder he keeps walking off.

    As for him continually talking about himself in the third person.... that's when the sock comes off! LOL

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 02:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest


    “Sociopaths are masters are presenting themselves as heroes with high morals and philosophy, yet underneath it they are the true criminal minds in society who steal, undermine, deceive, and often incite emotional chaos among entire communities. They are masters at turning one group of people against another group while proclaiming themselves to be the one true savior. Wherever they go, they create strife, argument and hatred, yet they utterly fail to see their own role in creating it. They are delusional at so many levels that their brains defy logical reasoning.

    You cannot reason with a sociopath. Attempting to do so only wastes your time and annoys the sociopath.”

    Learn more:

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 02:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    As I said stink you oxygen thief you have nothing to say so shut up a lot of us have to deal with our memory's daily sometimes it's not easy but we get on with it and do it with pride you? No thought not

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @15 It seems that you're psychotic. You appear to be criticising members of the British armed forces for travelling to the Falkland Islands to forcibly remove the armed farces of the “state” that had illegally invaded and occupied them. I have no doubt that those British soldiers would much rather have watched from a distance whilst the Royal Air Force launched nuclear weapons to pulverise the place and kill every invader. Regrettably, with its usual “bravery”, argieland was holding hostages. Not only was it holding them but, in direct contravention of the Geneva Conventions, it was deliberately placing them at risk in an attempt to avoid Britain's legal action to recover its territory. It was YOUR bunch of retards that imprisoned over 100 Islanders in Goose Green's community hall while the retards ruined their homes. Civilian men, women and children imprisoned without food or water OR any protection. And who, in true cowardly fashion, set up gun positions between civilian homes and painted Red Cross symbols on anything and everything.

    Yes, our troops are professionals and the best there is. But that doesn't mean they are cold-hearted killing machines. They have feelings. They have fears. The essence of courage is to do what has to be done, against opposition, despite one's fears. Not a quality to be found amongst those who push nuns and others out of aircraft. If our people were cold killing machines, you wouldn't have got 11,313 prisoners back. We could have killed the lot. So don't EVER say anything derogatory about our troops. You aren't fit to lick the soles of their boots. Although, being a coward, you'd never get that close!

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    Well, that's a different, and dare I say, unpopular point of view.
    MP contributors are a rag tag bunch from various countries.
    Lets take it nearer home.....(MINE)
    As you profess to be Scottish, why don't you open up the discussion by writing a letter to the Herald or Scotsman expressing your firmly held opinion. You could also write to Combat Stress at Hollybush in Ayrshire, or use facebook and give them your honest opinion on the matter of PTSD and how all the sufferers deserve what they got.
    It could be an interesting and lively debate. Who knows, you may even find someone who agrees with you. There are all sorts.

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest


    ”#3) Sociopaths are incapable of feeling shame, guilt or remorse. Their brains simply lack the circuitry to process such emotions. This allows them to betray people, threaten people or harm people without giving it a second thought. They pursue any action that serves their own self interest even if it seriously harms others. This is why you will find many very “successful” sociopaths in high levels of government, in any nation.”

    Learn more:

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    And what really pisses me off, is this how you regard your veterans of the Falklands war who are probably suffering the same things or is it just brits that get PTSD you prick

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    Archaeology???? Well, perhaps they can discover rests of the argentine asentamiento of 1800 (it is said there was a saladero, the house of Vernet, etc), or of the malvinense wolf: the warrah, why it disappear......
    What age are your soldiers, 50 or more than 60, because they will have to excavate and walk all day, poor guys

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    “walk all day poor guys.”

    Just like they did 31 years ago, at least this time they do not have to carry 120 lbs of equipment, fight and win battles when they get there.

    Should be a nice stroll for them , even at their age!

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    They are older than ours ex conscripts, suppose yours are arround 60 years, they should made a medical control to see their conditions for hard work and worst climate (at least in Patagonia there is too much wind and frozen in winter here).

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    Malen : Read the history of the conflict , instead of making childish , stupid comments . Start with “ Los chicos de la guerra ” and see who suffered most from the cold . Most argentine combat veterans I have met are more mentally damaged , the only difference is the UK actively looks after its vets , whereas Argentina sadly doesn't look after theirs . I would also point out that the British vets are the same age as the Argentine ones

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    The sleuth at it again…….
    “continually talking about himself in the third person….”
    How many times?
    I love it when you express your ignorance and my wit sails over the top of your upside down head (I come from a land down under)……seems like I have to explain everything to you………
    Popular phrase to stop the fans and stalkers………was?…..Elvis has left the building!…….also used in the American sit-com Frasier.
    Do you know anything?

    Here we go…….inferring you are a war veteran because you hang out at the British Legion for a Swally ya Scunner!
    No, I do believe that people that join the army are the psychotic ones…….obviously!
    “So don't EVER say anything derogatory about our troops.”
    .......Bunch of pansies…… ;-P
    Did you mean PMT?……

    Unpopular but a point of view…..and everyone is entitled to one!
    I see you never fail to miss an opportunity to prove your Scottishness……I prefer The Sunday Post……speaking of which, I was in Dundee the other week, it was a Braw day…..ha ha those east coasters…..Braw indeed!
    ........“As you profess to be Scottish”.??
    I don't recall ever stating my nationality!

    Oh well another scorcher of a day…….back to the strimming….the clegs are bad, bitten right through my T-shirt

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest


    “Popular phrase to stop the fans and stalkers………was?…..Elvis has left the building!…….also used in the American sit-com Frasier.”

    You have no “fans and stalkers”. Though you wish you did
    You are not Elvis, or Frasier.

    You are showing your delusions of grandeur again.

    We get along quite fine without you.

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    35 The problem is archeaology, it is a little strange (for not saying other thing) the archeology for therapy.
    But post next time what they have discover with the archeology.
    Our conscripts were 18.

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    Voilà!......Speak of the stalker has arrived! prove my point!

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @31 slattzzzz

    Think, the Sociopath feels no remorse and will not apologise.

    ”#9) Sociopaths never apologize. They are never wrong. They never feel guilt. They can never apologize. Even if shown proof that they were wrong, they will refuse to apologize and instead go on the attack”

    Learn more:

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    @38 : Popular Argentine misconception , that Britain's professional soldiers were older . The youngest soldier killed was a 17 year old member of the Parachute Regiment . Another was killed on his 18th birthday .

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    so they were the MAJORITY of them 18, as argentines??

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Seems like the a-hole think stink voice wok up again. We should really feel some empathy for him/her, can you imagine the pain of waking everything and realizing you are an Argentine troll?
    Troy.....not sure he is socio-pathic.

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    Well, you seem so sure of yourself why don't you voice your opinions to a larger audience. Or are you a bit scared of the reaction. You would have to give up hiding under a pseudonym and deal with your actions. Try your opinions out on customers at the Holy Loch Inn, Pier Hotel Kilmun, Strone Hotel (previously Argyle Hotel) or any other pub. in the area.
    Better still, try the fashionable west end of Glasgow round Byres road, Partick or the Maryhill road...or in fact any other town in Scotland and note the reply. I would be fascinated to know how you would get on. On second thoughts, it would probably make the Scottish news.
    As to me “showing ” my Scottishness, you as good as called me a liar in some of your earlier posts. This I tried to refute but all you do is peddle an Oor Wullie version of Scotland, inferring you are Scottish or have lived here for years, but never giving any pertinent info.
    Your sole purpose on here is to spoil or ruffle feathers then sit back and say to yourself... what a clever boy am I ... Chuckle chuckle, ha ha.

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    gonna' make a fool of you again.......
    “162 Simon68
    I would like to apologise to you, calling you an idiot @163.......there was no insult from you and I got a bit carried away.......”
    Oh No! The Redneck is back again for his daily dose.....
    Have you taken a break from your Possum and Grits?
    Hey, how many Rednecks does it take to eat a Possum?.....two, one to eat it and the other to watch for cars!
    Bet you reside south of the Mason and Dixon line.......
    Do you use Google Translate? do they have Google Translate for Rednecks? ...They should have!
    I often use a Wok for a stir-fry......
    ........“the pain of waking everything ”..??
    What are you saying?'s painful to wake everything?......Is it possible to wake everything........huge alarm clock perhaps?

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest


    Capt Poppy

    “Not sure if he is Sociopathic”

    Well, mental-illness would explain a lot.
    He scores 9/10 on the “what to look for ” scale, and his behaviour seems to fit.

    The only trait he is missing is the cult of followers and admirers.
    Posting on a written forum makes him look foolish and abrasive.
    He has to create his own 'followers' for adulation, hence the multiple sock puppets.

    ”(NaturalNews) One of the more offensive duties of being an investigative journalist is taking out the trash -- exposing liars, fraudsters, con artists and scammers for the people they truly are. Each time we investigate a sociopath, we find that they always have a little cult group following of spellbound worshippers who consider that particular sociopath to be a “guru” or “prophet.”

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    I am inclined to believe you are, who you say you are......
    prefer the Broons.........actually I was laughing at the way the east uses the word should know that!
    The Holy Loch Inn......everyone still calls it the Why Not!
    Yer' just jealous......I give your life meaning......all that time you spend trying to think of a suitable comeback, desperately trying to appear clever......
    That rewarding pat on the back from fellow posters.......makes it all worthwhile eh?
    that feeling you belong......

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Although one is entitled to ones opinion,
    It is interesting to note, that he has never been to or seen war,
    So ones safety remarks from afar by cowards like them ,

    He condemns others whilst to yellow to serve, [but will always have an excuse]

    But purely from his point of view,
    Then the ones that died on the belgrano, or the pilots in the air, to the starving troops on the ground, they have nowt to complain about then have they,

    But one thinks that an overwhelmingly vast majority of Argentineans would not only disagree with him,

    But would take such an insult to his remarks, they would probably hang him upside down on sight,
    As he is what we call an armchair warrior, who hides behind others , then one can expect more yellow Rambo style words , later…..


    To ignore is to be better for it,
    Let his tongue wiggle , whatever keeps him


    Jul 11th, 2013 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest


    “gonna' make a fool of you again.......
    “162 Simon68
    I would like to apologise to you, calling you an idiot @163.......there was no insult from you and I got a bit carried away.......””

    People can make of that what they like.

    Let's see you apologise to Slattzzz, or the British soldiers, or even the Argentinian Veterans

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Troy maybe an inferiority complex with delusional episodes of grandeur which would explain his thoughts of superiority. It's the humans defense mechanism of feeling inferior. It's obvious he hates what he is.....wouldn't you?

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    English disease is a bizarre psychiatric disease suffered by roughly 90% of the population of England. Characterised by egomania, a superiority complex and an inferiority complex, delusions of grandeur, and natiokleptomania (a strong desire to steal other people’s countries), the disease is thought to be genetic. A sufferer of English disease is known as an English Patient.

    English disease is an entirely psychiatric disease – Symptoms include,

    Superiority complex and Inferiority complex - the English Patient's mind is torn by these two conflicting symptoms. English disease instills a deep sense of national pride, and a belief that England is easily the best country in the world; however, it also creates a huge feeling of personal inadequacy in the sufferer. This explain how, while some English Patients can be introverted, with a tendency for great understatement, others can be loud, charismatic and domineering.

    Egomania and delusions of grandeur - these symptoms can sometimes be explained by the superiority complex, but in other cases, they are completely inexplicable. In some cases, an English Patient can develop both an inferiority complex and egomania, leading to great internal conflicts: these English Patients are innately aware and overwhelmingly proud of all of their strengths and achievements, but are reluctant to tell others about them. This leads to a decidedly strange personality.
    Natiokleptomania – as mentioned before, natiokleptomania is a strong, often overpowering desire to steal other people’s countries. This symptom of the disease is rare nowadays, but was very prevalent as little as a hundred years ago. Natiokleptomaniacs are often unaware that they are doing anything wrong - they just have a highly skewed perception of the world's borders.

    Xenophobia - due to their superiority complex and their natiokleptomania, English Patients look upon inhabitants of any other country with great disdain.
    ...Conqueror anyone?

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @51 Just kill argies. Shit on short legs.

    Jul 11th, 2013 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @51 think

    ”La Campora Troll Disease is a bizarre psychiatric disease suffered by roughly 90% of the La Campora Trolls . Characterised by egomania, a superiority complex and an inferiority complex, delusions of grandeur, and natiokleptomania (a strong desire to steal other people’s countries), the disease is thought to be genetic. A sufferer of “La Campora Troll Disease ” is known as a Thinkovian Kirchnerista'.“

    There Think, ”fixed“ it for ya !

    ”#5) Sociopaths seek to dominate others and “win” at all costs. They hate to lose any argument or fight and will viciously defend their web of lies, even to the point of logical absurdity.”

    Learn more:


    Jul 11th, 2013 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    A_Voice still going on I see.... blah blah blah - sorry should I put that in quotes?

    And have to laugh at Malen fixating on the average age of soldiers in the war. Don't you realise Malen; YOU LOST! You had more soldiers killed and your government fell over.

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Malen- there were plenty of 18yr olds on both sides! Plenty of British Veterans who return here still take a tent and “yomp” from San Carlos to Stanley just as they did 31 years ago - only this time they do it for fun and in memory of their mates lost along the way.
    Personally i think the archaeology idea is a dumb one - not much to dig up anyway - and from experience what Veterans need is their OWN time - time to sit and reflect- cry - whatever. Take them to where they need to go - give them the time they need - and believe me - after a few days you can actually see the clouds lifting off their shoulders.

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 01:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • José Malvinero

    51 A_Voice

    Just come in here, but I read this excellent description of English. Ha ha ha!, perfect.
    We could add a restless spirit sickly such that it is impossible to remain within its borders.
    Compulsive kleptomaniac acute syndrome.
    Eyes always greedy for material goods other. Creeping spirit of commercial nature exclusive.

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 02:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest


    I 'think' we're agreed, he's a 'complex' nutter.


    Jul 12th, 2013 - 02:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    I thought someone said it was yawn, time for bed?

    PE I anyone? back for some more sociopathic Viagra I suppose!

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 04:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    I'm thinking a multiple complex nutter. I shrink's dream project

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    ”English disease is a bizarre psychiatric disease suffered by roughly 90% of the population of England. Characterised by egomania, a superiority complex and an inferiority complex, delusions of grandeur, and natiokleptomania (a strong desire to steal other people’s countries), the disease is thought to be genetic“

    This perfectly describes Argentina
    1/-Egomania-perfect Argentine trait-any other South American nationality will confirm this.
    2/-Superiority complex-however Argentine proclamations are normally followed by failure as they always try to punch above their weight.
    3/-Inferiority complex-Argentina is sh1t scared of speaking to Falkland Islanders, even though there aren't many of them.
    4/-Delusions of grandeur=Argentina is a would be Imperialist power whilst its country in reality,crumbles and fails.
    5/-natiokleptomania-perfect description of would-be colonialist Argentina-unfortunately for them their dreams will remain as such, reality recognition not being a particularly strong Argentine trait.

    You have basically described the Argentine, not the British psyche.
    ”is said there was a saladero, the house of Vernet“

    This is the guy that got permission from the British to be on the Falklands and who later received compensation for his loses from the British government, proving that Vernet recognised British sovereignty.This is why the Argentines conveniently 'forgot' Vernet when making their distorted case to the UN in the 1960s

    ”the warrah, why it disappear......”

    It was exterminated by farmers, a sad part part of Falklands history, however the Argentine nation exterminated thousands of native Indians, so you can hardly hold your heads up high on that one.

    Your next ploy will to lament the disappearance of Alan Addis, a great tragedy in my view, but conviniently forgetting that Argentina easily trumped this by pushing nuns out of helicopters, gouging out the eyes of priests, murdering 1000s of people, including the use of acid baths

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    I believe you are actually Rid Skwerr or maybe even Rank Bajin !!

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    60pete Bog

    Honestly, Pete, I think that ArgievoiceofThinkedover
    is getting a bit lazy with his disenchsntment of this site.

    His “English Disease” monologue with the witty (not) reference to “The Englidh Patient” is pedantic and boring.

    Think is being beaten down at every turn, his efforts to goad and enrage failing to get the 'returns' he expects for his efforts.

    Given that he is trying to to defend a weak, if not ridiculously indefensible premise, it must be very difficult for him and very discouraging.

    I suspect his heart is not in it anymore on the eve of CFK's downfall.

    However, he is still like a crack 'ho, needing his 'fix'.

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @62 Troy
    I don't find any Malvis enraging-I get pleasure from correcting their continued mistakes. I don't feel goaded-in fact it entertains that they can't see the obvious.

    The most amusing event is when a question is asked and there is no answer-this proves that they can take their argument so far then it disintegrates. I don't find the fact they drop a question and then disappear, annoying, in fact the opposite.

    What I do find annoying is when the UK in the past have taken Argentina's claims and distorted history as gospel without examining them and that up to the last few years the MLA's have done little to challenge what are glaring mistruths-but thanks to CFK's megaphone rants, they are now on a roll. When I got erroneous history on the BBC website changed last year with a simple e-mail, an MLA had told me “we don't mention 1833 as its embarrassing.” Well it obviously isn't with the most basic research and in fact supported rather than disabled the British claim in the 1800s.

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest


    I've found over the past year that we are questioning ourselves less and the Troll lies are more quickly refuted now that the real history has been established.
    The Referendum has changed the playing field dramatically. Islanders and Brits are confident of their status and relationship.

    The Trolls still repeat their old arguments, but they are futile and the Trolls back off quickly.

    Jul 13th, 2013 - 07:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    Argie trolls=Strangely similar to the way the Argentines boasted about having the 'Malvinas' forever when they invaded in 1982, gobbed off proclaiming their superiority over the British. Then when challenged put up some resistance, and after further challenging, ran away and surrendered returning to Argentina which has subsequently whinged and whined about how unfair everything is and how an aggressor is now a victim.

    I see strong parallels here.

    Jul 14th, 2013 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest


    Good observations.

    They'll try anything on, but they behave like petulant children when we're forced to say “no” and put the Smarties back on the shelf.

    Jul 14th, 2013 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    Whatcha trying to say Troy? That I behave like a child or that I like Smarties?
    What can I say.........
    “Smartie people make funny faces,
    clap their hands, they're Smartie fans
    you know the taste is grand,
    we're all living in Smartie land,
    ba doo doo n doo doo doooo, Smaarrartiieees.”

    Jul 14th, 2013 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest



    “”Children who watch violent TV behave in a violent way afterwards and people who watch a lot of TV are more likely to have bad behavior later in life,“ said researchers.”

    Learn more:

    Jul 14th, 2013 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    stink a-voice hole..........are you back to answer my response to:

    ”Why not save us all some time and you explain what he meant by essential liberty......because I can guarantee, you would be the first, as Franklin failed to define what should be covered by “essential liberty”.

    in article:

    because I really want to know about your guarantee. More so that you are clueless about the entire phrase as was Hep C but that did not stop you from using a portion of history to use incorrectly because you know nothing of the context.

    Jul 14th, 2013 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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