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Spain apologizes to Bolivia for ‘any misunderstanding’ regarding Morales plane incident
Spain's foreign minister Tuesday offered apologies to Bolivia's Evo Morales for “any misunderstanding” linked to last week's diversion of the Latin American leader's aircraft, but insisted that Madrid never barred the plane from its airspace. Jose Manuel Garcia-Margallo addressed the issue at a breakfast with reporters in Madrid. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI suggest as a matter of pricipal, given the misinformation around the Falcon, that Spain consider BANNING the Cowpat on humanitarian grounds.
Jul 10th, 2013 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It would at least stop the Cowpat from looking like an utter twat.
OAS condemns Morales plane incident and urges EU countries involved to apologize
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Seems I was wrong, on the other blogg,
Spain is saying sorry.
Dumbtwitters..
Will they all now say sorry,
Please forgive us, we know not what we do,
And the real culprits leg’s it.
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Sorry..sorry and sorry again..lolol.
Spain, the embodiment of cowardice!
Jul 10th, 2013 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even though they apologize, notice that they say they did not deny airspace.......in other words.....“ I am sorry, but that tribal leader is a red faced liar”
Jul 10th, 2013 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When is this UN hearing suppose to take place? Is it not going to happen for the same reason that RG's do not take the UK to the ICJ because they will lose?
Spain - the country with no backbone.
Jul 10th, 2013 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“”We believe in the word of our Bolivian friends and allies,” Spain's top diplomat said.”
Jul 10th, 2013 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Quite right too. It would be hypocritical, should Spain not accept the word of those sharing principles equal to its own.
That would be the Spain which denied their paramilitary forces fired on a Gibraltar jet ski in British waters, despite several videos of the incident being on youtube along with eye witness reports of it happening ...
Jul 10th, 2013 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Morales is quite the drama queen isn't he.
Jul 10th, 2013 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Milking his brief exposure on the world stage as much as possible.
Brasil and Portugal. Portugal is wrong, but Brasil consider Portugal one province. Bolivia is right, and Brazil support.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0At least the Bolivian president can fly around in his aircraft without it being seized by creditors.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 01:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0#10 lololololololololololololol for now
Jul 11th, 2013 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1
Jul 11th, 2013 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0“the Cowpat ”
A thousand LOLs
@3
Yes-they think they are clever by intruding into Gibraltarian airspace and waters, torturing bulls, deliberately drugged and weakened so that those pansies in tights can kill them, but when it comes to a scrap (like in 1770 when they kicked our lads off Port Egmont and were forced to back down), they're not quite so hard.
And after Repsol was dicked by Argentina, totally toothless.
And like Argentina the only way they know how to run an economy is to destroy one.
Part 1 of 2
Jul 11th, 2013 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Summary of what the public know of the Snowden releases.
Edward Joseph Snowden, (30), is a ‘computer wizard’ with an unfinished Masters in Computer Security from Liverpool University.
He worked for the CIA; Dell - a private contractor within the NSA; and finally consulting firm Booz Allen Hamilton within the NSA.
He worked in SIGINT as an ‘infrastructure analyst’ researching new ways to break into Internet and telephone traffic around the world.
He worked in the US Top Secret Sensitive Compartmented Information section as a Certified Ethical Hacker, hacking into China.
In June 2013 the ‘traitor’ Snowden ‘recklessly’ leaked details of several top-secret U.S. and British government mass surveillance programs to the press - primarily to Greenwald of The Guardian.
Snowden revealed that, following the NSA warrantless surveillance scandal (2001–07), the extent of mass data collection by PRISM was far greater than the public knew and included what he characterized as ‘dangerous’ and ‘criminal’ activities.
Obama countered that it was “a circumscribed, narrow system directed at us being able to protect our people.”
But Snowden showed that the USA was institutionally hacking civilian infrastructure networks in the USA and other countries such as universities, hospitals, and private businesses.
US federal prosecutors charged Snowden with espionage and theft of government property.
The U.S. military have blocked access to large parts of the Guardian website.
The UK government have issued a confidential DA-Notice to the BBC and other media blocking them from running further stories.
All this stuff was in the public domain for those prepared to delve;
The Guardian simply gave it coherent exposure.
The US public is evenly split on his releases being ‘in the public interest’; foreign publics are massively more on Snowden’s side.
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Part 2 of 2
What he revealed...
So he couldn't even finish his Masters from a Scouser Uni!
Jul 11th, 2013 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Makes you laugh that the largest number of thieves and gangsters outside the East End have a Uni that lectures on Computer Security to Degree and Masters level. No doubt some of the “scallywags” have been raked in to teach the practicals.
Part 2 of 2
Jul 11th, 2013 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What he revealed ...
“To inform the public as to that which is done in their name and that which is done against them,” Snowden ‘revealed’ programs that intercepted US and European telephone metadata, most importantly PRISM (US) and Tempora (UK) Internet surveillance programmes,
1. He specifically divulged, inter alia, the existence and functions of several classified US surveillance programs and their scope, including notably
PRISM (the clandestine national security electronic surveillance programme);
NSA call database (called MAINWAY); and
Boundless Informant (the surveillance program interrogating records (DNI) and telephone call metadata records (DNR) stored in an NSA data archive called GM-PLACE).
2. He also revealed details of Tempora, a British ‘black-ops’ surveillance program run by GCHQ.
This has two principal components, “Mastering the Internet” and “Global Telecoms Exploitation”,
to collate as much online and telephone traffic as possible, including:
i recordings of telephone calls,
ii the *content* of email messages,
iii Facebook entries and
iv the personal internet history of users.
This scope is matched by the systems in the USA.
There is, of course, no revelation of particular investigations and secrets; just the information about the processes.
The US and UK media have been blocked by their governments and military from further reveals or discussions,
though David Davies, the Tory politician, showed on BBC's Hard Talk that the EU might use Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights to remove the *abuse* of this spying on the peoples of the world.
Human rights have comes a long way in definitiopn. What about my safety.....do I know have the human right to live without islamic radical terrorists, or does their human right to exist trump non-muslims?
Jul 11th, 2013 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 015 GeoffWard2
Jul 11th, 2013 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is that it?
Are you in any way shocked at these “revelations” including GCHQ?
If GCHQ had NOT got these programmes I think they would have been closed down through incompetence.
All this hoohah over these “revelations”, ha, ha, ha.
Yup, that's all that I have found in the public domain.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obviously Wiki source material is constantly being sanitized, so it is only good as far as it goes.
The UK and US media are effectively gagged from further reveal so we cannot expect any further details of 'secrets'.
Russia Today would be the usual source for further info. but they have a vested interest in smoke and mirrors with regard to Russian activity.
So, nothing that we did not already know about the activities.
Masses we don't know about what they have found out about us all. The Stasi file-rooms are child's play compared to this lot.
Even Elaine will not be sleeping soundly in her bed at night; *her secrets are known* ;-)
For all our lives now, we all await that knock in the early hours ... “We have reason to believe ... If you do not say anything ... sit in that chair ... AAAaarrgggghh!”
Who amongst us believes they have lived a blameless life?
Me? You? The Pope?
'They' KNOW!
perhaps the men in black, are now on the move .lol
Jul 11th, 2013 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”For all our lives now, we all await that knock in the early hours ... “We have reason to believe ... If you do not say anything ... sit in that chair ... AAAaarrgggghh!”
Jul 11th, 2013 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well......what happens if they do not come for you, will you be disappointed?
18 GeoffWard2
Jul 11th, 2013 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When I was young I was bought up near a VERY bad area and being so close got to know some of the hard cases and how to deal with them eventually.
Looking back I suppose I would have done things differently, perhaps not reacted quite so violently when my best friend, who had to wear leg irons, was insulted and even when they kicked his legs from under him. But his parents thought the sun shone out of mine and were forever grateful.
I suppose the scars the thugs carried would fade as they grew up but I cannot say I cared at the time. When I started my professional training I realised that you cannot carry on like this and it stopped when I was 18 YO. That is why I KNOW I can take the punishment needed to get close to somebody: and then things get interesting.
All before 'tinternet, but who cares anyway.
Good info Geoff, but as you will beware that's not a concern for some idiots on this site.Co-incidentally the same idiots are critical of 1930's Germany and make accusations of Argentina being a sanctuary of those people.
Jul 11th, 2013 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hypocrites or no?
@22
Jul 11th, 2013 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...the same idiots are critical of 1930's Germany and make accusations of Argentina being a sanctuary of those people.
Hypocrites or no?...
Good point.
@22
Jul 12th, 2013 - 04:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Accusations, no one is making accusations.
They are stating fact! Stating the truth!
What, you think lying about it makes the whole nasty, distasteful truth that your
Freedom loving democracy, provided sanctuary and embraced some of the most evil murdering scum in history, disappear?
It might do for you, but not for, to use a favourite Argentine expression, the rest of the world!
RC like a true troll....they are trying to change history. SA was a nazi escape haven.
Jul 12th, 2013 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yuleno are you denying that Nazis escaped to SA or are you simply saying that many associate Nazi Germany and Argentina but then don´t see the parallels between nazism with what the US is doing on the world stage in the latter 20th, and 21st century?
Jul 12th, 2013 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0The US doesnt gas Jews but its quite happy indiscriminately killing millions of vietnamese, iraqis etc and forcing itself onto any country that it can. The cold war was a very convenienent excuse for the US to spread itself out around the world. How many countries in the world have US bases on them? How many countries political systems are deeply influenced by the US? When the cold war ended a new excuse was needed to justify US influence and presence on the world stage. Enter
-THE WAR ON TERROR- DA DA DAAAH!
But don´t worry as long as you can buy that 8 litre tank pick up to drive you to dunkin donuts 1/4 mile up the road thats all that matters right?
What the US is doing now with this truly immense blackmail tool - NSA - makes the stassi operations look like a village cub scout organised fete .
And I yes I realise that I´ve probably been noted by the NSA for having an opinion.
Ignorance is bliss which explicitly explains your euphoric demeanor.
Jul 12th, 2013 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You jealously is truly demeaning to you tobers, so keep smiling
Not sure how you consider me jealous.
Jul 12th, 2013 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually I´m not even sure you´re real such is the degree of vitriol evident in your more than numerous posts on this website.
26Tobers:
Jul 12th, 2013 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You could add up all of the people who died at the hands of the U.S. in both Vietnam and Iraq and not even come close to the number killed by both Stalin & Mao Tse Tung's cynicism directed at their own people and it's not as if the U.S. emerged from either of those conflicts unscaved. Besides most of the people who died in Iraq after the invasion were killed in either sectarian or terrorist violence.
I wouldn't worry about the omnipotent N.S.A. filing your name away - even as we write there are no doubt thousands of our fellow humans posting far more inflamatory sentiments, in many different languages all across the globe. This is humble, modest MercoPress - no threat to anyone.
I´m not defending Stalin or Mao Tse Tung et al. Lets talk in absolute terms not relative terms. In human terms not ideological terms. Would it make a difference to you if your neighbour had only murdered 3 people in cold blood rather than 5. And the manner in which he had done it? Also its very hard to determine how many have died as a result of US action or inaction even. If the US had got involved in the 2nd World War earlier would millions of lives had been saved? Etc.
Jul 12th, 2013 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tobers#
Jul 12th, 2013 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are correct in 26#
Rios Montt!
Does it require explanation?
Does famine constitute genocide
Ireland?
No denials of the content of what Snowden divulged.
Is that agreement?
Repeating idiots or hypocrites.
Stalin is still revered by one class of people in eastern Asia,as is Mao Zedong.
Does anyone know why?
Come on tobias........you can attack the USA much more effectively than that.....in need of some milk?
Jul 12th, 2013 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@32
Jul 12th, 2013 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Clearly you are trolling because you are not countering what I´ve pointed out..but for argument´s sake I blame human nature more than anything.
30 Tobers:
Jul 12th, 2013 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well if you're going to raise the Cold War as an issue some context is relevant, yes? As to to the second World War America was in no state to participate in a war of that magnitude. Public opposition was intense - they hadn't forgotten their soldiers being gassed in France, and they were still recovering from the depression. Anyway a number of young Americans did fight, independently of their govt., before Pearl Harbour. Brave young men of principle in my opinion.
Has there been excess in U.S. foreign policy? Of course. If you want to dangle Henry Kissinger by his heels from a helicopter for a few minutes & strap Dick Cheney to a chair and subject him to a couple of days of Seputura at 130db it's ok by me. But it's worth pointing out that without U.S intervention in Afghanistan in the '80's the Soviets might still be there. And they thought nothing of mowing down an entire village with one of those Hind attack helicopters.
p.s. Are you sure you don't know my neighbour? He is one scary dude.
I know the Ruskies are bad - Ive seen both Rambo First blood part 2 and 3.
Jul 12th, 2013 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The US didnt get involved in the 2nd World War until it was directly attacked and also it was losing alot of trade through U boat activity in the Atlantic. The US couldnt get its expensive food and military equipment and supplies to market. Its involvement didnt have much to do directly with public opinion about freeing the ´free world´from the Nazis. As always governments mostly act for practical unemotional reasons ie when it affects their own stability and economy.
36 Tobers:
Jul 12th, 2013 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can't think of a single country that would've voluntarily entered that horrible conflict out of altruism.
Quite so Heisenberg.They didnt in the case of Stalin or Mao.
Jul 12th, 2013 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't enter a war unless you can win it.
So why all the fuss about killings.Theres no fear of death in supporting Snowden and highlighting state terror and the fear of ones own citizens.
Nazi tell on your neighbour terror tactics.
You know you southies love everything anti USA.............can we send you some more trash? We will just let the word out they are fugitives against the USA and I am sure you guys will want them.....lol
Jul 13th, 2013 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Actually, your southie leaders are jerking off in delirium that snowden did not take up the offers. If you were so anti democracy you would eliminate trade with those you hate.....publicly.
Maybe Yuleno is right placed to to give expert opinion about Nazis.
Jul 13th, 2013 - 05:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Our fathers and grandfathers only had to live with them for 12 years before utterly destroying them.
Whilst theirs embraced them and have been living with them in their midst for 68 years, still a few of the originals around too.
yulena comes across as being old enough to have befriended many of them.
Jul 13th, 2013 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How can you tell a communist? It's someone who reads Marx and Lenin
How can you tell an anti-communist? It's someone that understands Marx and Lenin.
Poppy you talk some rubbish.How can you understand without reading?By listening to people who have their own interests to defend?You really should take personality out of your thought processes and think for yourself,especially as yankeeboy is not at hand with fuel gauge problems and the price of bread that he lives on.Really boy working in organic food and your posts are not conveying the true value of nutrient rich food.(Do you live on wheat rich burgers)
Jul 13th, 2013 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0RC have you noticed how this all started as a respectful delay in diplomacy, to an incident and in yesterdays news......an outright attack on the chief?
Jul 13th, 2013 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WTF.........they milking this for how long. If it's an attack....do something about or or they need to change their tampons.
yeleni....you know nothing about me or what I defend because I have never stated such. So please do not make a bigger fool or yourself as you do. If you wish to know what I do defend......email me at m.cher1160@outlook.com I will send you my handbook.......lol
BTW....that last sentence was incomprehensible. Break it down for us simple folk.
Incomprehensible to who?burger and wheat ? Problems with words or grammar or is there something else bothering you.
Jul 13th, 2013 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you- you is poppy.Do is a prefix indicating a question.Therefore the question is to you poppy.
Live on-to live is to be alive,breathing,conscious ........
Really poppy do you know what you post?
Stand up night for the trolls.......would you like a spotlight or some electricity to work it with?
Jul 14th, 2013 - 12:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chill out and make a tomato sandwich....oops....sorry, I forgot no tomatos or bread.
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