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Mercosur social summit criticizes the Pacific Alliance and blasts free trade

Friday, July 12th 2013 - 08:33 UTC
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The Mercosur social summit questioned any possible approach to the Alliance of the Pacific since it is an organization entirely dedicated to trade which would distract the Southern Cone countries from their social objectives. Read full article

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  • Idlehands

    You cowardly capitalist pigs in the Pacific Alliance promote a free trade free for all system where inequality is rife and many people are poor.

    Come join us in the egalitarian protectionist Mercosur where trade is restricted, equality is paramount and everybody is poor.

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    “Evidently the continent’ right in alliance with the US are attempting against this integration process. Examples are more than evident…, it is evident that the Pacific Alliance is an instrument of that plan”, said Oscar Laborde Argentine ambassador from the Social Consulting Council.

    VICTIMS AGAIN!!!

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Heisenbergcontext

    These articles read like they used google for their translations rather than someone who speaks both English & Spanish fluently. Frustrating.

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    Not the first time in history that jelous eyes have been cast westwards. I have to laugh when they refer to each other as brothers - feuding brothers in a dysfunctional family.

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    Sadly for Mercosur, their protectionist measures are not actually protecting Mercosur but protecting others from them.

    So funny to watch.

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Sergio Vega

    Fortunately, PA is just a trade treaty, were all the member have the same weight, value and rights, it don´t intervine into their political system and it´s sustained by the only successful countries in LA......the other countries are in the second football league and with a great posibility to descend to the third.....

    Jaelous, envy and lack of capability are leading the death walking Mercosur to say those negatives concepts against the PA, but....,and this is the important matter, their members are looking for their acceptance into the “enemy”......

    Any reason for that facts...??? A lot of them, of course......
    Restriction to trade, even inside the treaty....
    Protectionosm from the main market members affecting the others...
    Illegal way to suspend a founder full member acting soverignity under its constitution....
    Illegal ways to join a new member rejected by one founder full member Congress....
    High level of poverty, inflation, corruption, violence, political intolerance, low growth, social & economic inestability, populism & “caudillismo”, among other reason can explain the actual momento the conglomerate is living.....(or dying better said).

    Anyway, some of those countries wouldn.t be accepted into the PA because its Curriculum Vitae of loosers......even they apply for on their knees.....!!!!

    So, R. I. P. Mercosur.......wish you a better life under ground in your grave.....

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Trunce!

    @3

    I agree, but not sure it's the fault of translator. Possibly more to do with, 'garbage in- garbage out'.

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    @3. Most do, more annoying is not linking back to the original source be it English, Spanish, Portuguese, or Klingon. My English teachers would have some words about that. It remains a workable news aggregator for SAME news in English.

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    These social inclusion plans are the direct reason why Uruguay has a massive fiscal drag from a government bloated by an inability to see the wood from the trees.

    When you offer money to semi-literate people not to work, DON'T be surprised that they DON'T WORK!

    Now Pepe has had to apologise, this time to the Uruguayo, about saying (in Spain) that you never see a Uruguayo who is worked out!

    Perhaps the old commie is may not be so commie after all. The dawn of enlightenment seems to have woken Pepe up to the real world. The poor are poor because they didn’t try harder at school, didn’t want a job and are very happy living off the state: just like the UK after the bastards in New Labour fucked everything up. Exactly the same problem.

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Off topic but worth it.

    Snowdon does not want to go to Venezuela, LOL, he has asked Amnesty International to lobby Russia to give him asylum there.

    You have to laugh. Even a fugitive doesn't want to go to Venezuela.

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Elaine, he hasi at least four alternatives: the fourth being Russia but with a condition that he stop harming the USA interests. As a guest of the government, he'll be treated very well with a nice place to live and protection. He'll also be used as a propaganda tool. I hope the Americans don't get their hands on him, but it seems he's a dead man walking.

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    ( @10 He's somewhat more PR savvy than I thought but he has limited options, bringing me to -> @11 He has a shot of a survivable maybe even livable exile anywhere if and only if he agrees to a) not spill any more beans and b) be a propaganda agent for the host country in this case one that is far less free than the US [warts and all] -- but not too much of a tool or his cred in the West will dissolve as soon as, in the case of Russia, he starts to justify jailing P*ssy Riot and their recent legislation against gays to pay the rent to his new hosts, otherwise his fan club in the US and Europe will dissolve quickly. But I don't see this as a viable option in any country other than one solidly aligned with the US and those countries aren't offering him anything (even like, I've said before, countries in the West that are already raher ticked off at the US Justice Dept). )

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    He just held a meeting with press stating he wishes to stay in Russia. Russia does not want him. However, Snowden has also said that if Russia grant him asylum he will stop all political activity and being a big blabbermouth.

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Heisenbergcontext

    @8Gface:

    Lol. Where's Spock when we need him?

    @10 ElaineB:

    What a choice. Perhaps Gerard Depardieu can put him up.

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    @8 (Ouch, that should be SA News in English, darned iPad)

    (@10/@14 he could stay in Switzerland and hang with Roman. Boy that would a hard shot of chunky milk for some to swallow (but oddly not others since it hasn't been a problem for them in 35 years) )

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cornelius

    Are these people for real? What a load of crap they have in their brain what bunch of self conceded idiots that they can tell others how people should live.
    The alliance will distract us from our social agenda. Ha-ha commies.

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • trenchtoast

    Trying to decipher what this article was on about has given me a nosebleed.

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    SA will one day be a bit like East Germany vs. West Germany was in the late 1980's. (Mercosur countries vs. Pacific Alliance countries).

    All the have-nots in Mercosur will only be able to call the Pacific Alliance “the evil system” for so long.

    Then their people won't be calling the PA “evil” anymore, they will want the same “material” situation as the PA. (Fast cars, shelves full of food, good train systems, shiny cities, working telephones, modern infrastructure, good TV, etc.)

    Spying was really intense in East Germany, I don't think SA is like that. But those Mercosur populations will protest for more “freedom and liberty” like they did in East Germany. They're already doing it.

    But if the PA admits new countries that are like Greece, and Spain, and Croatia, and France, just to become bigger, it will turn into “crap” just like the EU is.

    What if one day soon, Argentina wanted to become part of the PA, because they were ruined. How would the PA countries react to this?

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Math

    Mercosur is a tool for Foro de Sao Paulo. They want to reproduce the Cuban system in Latam.

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    It must be close to the weekend - the Argie Trolls are offline.

    Midday 'Siesta', oops not much one can do for the remainder of the day - put away the laptop - see you on Monday...

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BOTINHO

    Reading the statements over, it sounds like our beloved Graciela Rodrigues is worried about more defections to the Pacific.

    Note that with Guyana and Suriname (not to mention Venezuela) in the fold, it is becoming clear that the movement is becoming more a Atlantic versus Pacific situation.

    Which is all fine as long as there is less politics, and more actual trade facilitated as a benefit.

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fred

    “They are Latinamerican brothers and companions in Unasur, but differently to them, we don’t believe that free trade is the instrument that guarantees inclusive development”, said the former Uruguayan Deputy Foreign minister.

    That's exactly the problem of Mercosul.

    Jul 12th, 2013 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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