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Argentina/Brazil trade disputes reached a ‘furious level’ during Mercosur last summit in Montevideo

Wednesday, July 24th 2013 - 07:29 UTC
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International issues helped Mercosur to close ranks and give a false image of unity during the last summit held in Uruguay, according to diplomatic sources in Montevideo that are surfacing details of a bitter exchange behind doors between Argentina’s Cristina Fernandez and Brazil’s Dilma Rousseff. Read full article

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  • toxictaxitrader2

    Cat fights are such fun.

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Mud or jello? And Paraguay wants to miss this?

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Mud.

    Argentina can't afford jello and Brazil doesn't want to appear to be wasting money lest there be riots.

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    You see? We are more united in our dislike of you lot than we are divided by our differences.

    Aye. Aye.

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    My moneys on Dilma.......a punch in the face from her would HURT.
    #4
    No mention of the UK or the Falklands here.....are we in the “you lot” ?

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    5
    Do you sort your garbage?
    If so, do you separate thick paper and thin cartboard?

    Aye. Aye.

    Bloody pirates...

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    6
    Do you sort your garbage?
    If so, do you separate thick argentines from indoctrinated argentines?

    Nose, Nose

    Bloody argentine idiots

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kirk Nelson

    It is easy to pinpoint the real problem here. Argentina is running out of US Dollars and by delating its trade policies plus Argentina's trade protections measures are indeed the negative and unfair maneuvers not only to Brazil, but to other Mercosur members as well.
    MercosurPress, for unknown reason, refers to Argentina over 80% of its articles on each of its publications, an unfair practice , unless other Mercosur country members are less energetics considering that Brazil performs as the greates trade in South America region and it is a greater contributor in business and economics to the world.

    Kirk Nelson,
    New York, NY
    USA

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    8
    This isn't “MercosurPress”, this is Penguin News in disguise.
    It's only agenda is to trashtalk Argentina and try to discredit anything that comes from that country.
    Using double morales, blatant misinformation and outright lies, these Brits, because that is just what they are, both those from the UK and those from the Malvinas, try to justify their colonialism and militarisation af the South Atlantic.

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    9
    Put up the evidence or shut up you racist piece of shit.

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    What race do you belong to Joe?
    Are you a breed of your own?

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    Evidence of your allegation first.

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Reuters is saying all the grand China projects started in Arg are 2 months away from running out of funds.
    I told everyone a year ago don't count on Brazil and China to bail out Arg, they have their own very serious problems.
    Looks like I was right again
    One wonders how long GM FORD DOW will stick around, my guess is not too much longer.
    I doubt even the Arg gov't hiring machine can make up those huge unemployment numbers.

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Joe
    As #8 puts it, 80% of the news are about Argentina.
    Have you ever seen an Argentine news paper that uses 80% of their space to talk (badly) about the Malvinas ( call them Falklands)?

    You lot have no interest in having a normal relationship to Latin America, you merely agree with the flavour of the day, should that flavour suit you.

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    Where's your evidence that Mercopress is a Penguin News site?

    Who do you mean when you say “you lot”?

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Optimus_Princeps

    The perverse harlot gets crazier by the day. She is practically the Antichrist of sound economics. We're already making preparations to leave until Ms. Nero is out.

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Joe
    You wish to get my account banned? I got this deja vù feeling when it comes to presenting evidence about MP's origins...

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bombadier Spoon

    Joe he won't answer your question because he can't. Just let it be.

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Seems like everyone is against Argentina, I've heard this before.
    Always the victim, whaa whaa
    Their ridiculously idiotic US Ambassador was just saying the same thing, apparently the conference was so whiny and childish that most of the participants walked out before she was done.
    I wonder if she even realizes she's been blacklisted at State and WH?

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steveu

    You have to realise that if the Falklanders were left in peace and that Argentina had more interest in being good neighbours rather than indulging in a colonialist fantasy based on what might or might not have happened in 1833 (and rendered irrelevent by the 1850 treaty in any case) that the UK/ FI poster would have better things to do that “bad mouth” Argentina.

    Your glorious leader has set your country on its perverse course with an attempted economic blockade. These actions have consequences so please don't whine about Argentina being some kind of victim. If you play nice, so will we. End of...

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    Poor little persecuted Stevie, full of conjecture but very few facts.

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    At some point, sooner rather than later, Brazil is going to have to square its world trade ambitions, indeed necessity, with the circle that is murcosure.

    What’s the betting that when that time comes, they will “push Argentina under a bus” without a second thought.

    @4 Stevie
    More a case of the only thing you have in common, is your racist attitude towards Gringos.

    @8 Kirk Nelson
    MurcoPress is actually a South Atlantic news site, and Argentina does try and insert itself into S. Atlantic affairs far more than all other S. American countries combined.

    @9 Stevie
    It’s our S. Atlantic to militarise, no “justification” necessary.

    @14 Stevie
    “Us lot” do have normal relations with most of S. America, as well as growing trade.

    It’s only “you lot” we don’t have the time of day for, as increasingly neither does the rest of S. America.

    As we say “a Billy Nomates”.

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    And her plan to import US dollars, legal or not is failing miserably. Sales of the cedine at only 6 million and 30% already converted to US cash....what a bunch of losers....

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @4 Who's the “we”? Doesn't seem to include places like Chile, Colombia and Peru. But then totalitarian dictatorships always stick together. Let's see now, how does Venezuela, argieland, Brazil and Uruguay compare with nazi Germany, Japan, Romania and Italy? But it's always good to know who your enemies are. Easier to target!
    @6 What's “cartboard”? Is it like “ersatz” anything? Another benefit of the “German” background.
    @9 Ah, diddums. No-one needs to “trashtalk” argieland. One only has to accurately report what it does and the words that come out of the mother witch's mouth.
    Perhaps you'd like to mention the blatant misinformation and outright lies that issue from Buenos Aires. But you can't really because, if you told the TRUTH, everybody would be able to see what lying scumbags argies and their cronies are.
    Let's start with some easy ones. Where are the “Malvinas”? The Falkland Islands were named by the British, long before the French and the Spanish came along. And long, long before some rebel colony decided to start lying. A character trait it continues to this day. What's the problem with colonialism? Are you saying that it was wrong of the Spanish, Italians etc to colonise what is now called argieland. If it was, then you shouldn't be where you are, should you? Nobody who uses Spanish or Portuguese as a national language in latam should be where they are. Right? And on to “militarisation”. Do argieland, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Uruguay, Venezuela have armed forces? Don't many of them keep upgrading things, when they can afford it? Do you remember the first three months of 1982 when Britain only posted the Governor's honour guard of 40 Royal Marines to the Falkland Islands? Do you remember how argiescumland sent 66,000 troops, an aircraft carrier, 6 destroyers, 2 frigates, 2 icebreakers, a tank landing ship and a submarine to overcome them and steal British territory? British for nearly 300 years? Try “perspective”!

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    #24 “Cartboard” can be easily explained, Stevie is obviously one of RGlands most favourite professions - a Cartonero. They come out after dark and collect all the cardboard and plastic rubbish which is just thrown out on the street by every RG household and business. That is why the whole country always looks like a rubbish tip. It's easy to see how a poorly educated child like Stevie could become confused because the packs of cardboard etc are collected up on handcarts and wheeled to the rubbish tip where they are then rewarded by a few pesos. Hence 'Cartboard'.
    As for Mercopress being an arm of Penguin News, all I can say is Honk Honk!

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • manchesterlad

    Let's face it, Mercosur is dead as a trading block & has become a political group for Bolivarian like minded thinkers

    The Pacific Alliance however is a true trading block promoting free enterprise & surprisingly doen't include Argentina, Brazil, Venezuela or Bolivia........hmmm, I wonder why???

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JuanGabriel

    Hopefully sometime in the future someone will bring out a downfallesque expose of the final days of the Kirchner regime. Then we can have people making hundreds of parodies of a CFK rant in the Casa Rosada as they do the Hitler rant in the bunker.

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Adidas stopped mfg in Argentina today.
    Another one bites the dust

    Plus Soy and Corn dropped like a rock yesterday. I imagine they just became unprofitable to RG farmers.
    Rut Ro

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    Whole story = m'eh

    (aye. aye.)

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • geoff nolan

    The article produces a bit of confusion in its choice of words. “Asian produce” can be widely misinterpreted as the importation of Asian vegetables. Maybe the word “products” or “production” would be more appropriate in this context.

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    “Adidas stopped mfg in Argentina today.”

    That's good news Yankeeboy, the things they sell in Uruguay are absolute first class SHIT and expensive too.

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    31. “Made in Argentina” doesn't really inspire confidence or denote quality does it?

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britninja

    @32 Turkeyneck has the same trademark stamped somewhere on her face, so nope.

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Aparently they has a cat fight,
    only then was it reveald who had the wig ...??

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CJvR

    “It's only agenda is to trashtalk Argentina and try to discredit anything that comes from that country.”

    It is not as if the Argie regime needs any assistance to do that.

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Baxter

    Let us look at the positive side . Brazil fights , economically of course , with Argentina and breaks away from Mercosur . Then it leaves the “ Bolivarian ” nut cases and returns to the real world .

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    furious level??? Never heard that.
    Too much lies by MP lately, inventing & inventing.
    It must bother SA united.

    Jul 24th, 2013 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 37

    You are unintelligible again, try Google translate.

    Jul 25th, 2013 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Truth PaTroll

    @22

    I just checked a map of the South Atlantic. The only thing that says “UK” there are the Falklands, South Georgia and Sandwich. Meanwhile Argentina has half of Tierra del Fuego island, Estados Island, and about 4,000km of coastline.

    Your south Atlantic?

    Maybe is that prototypical British attitude about things that Argentine's don't appreciate much (like the arrogance, the lack of basic acknowledgement that you have neighbors in the region, and the half-truths about Argentina you bruit about).

    I know, it's all our fault, but really, it is not. We may not want trade or cultural exchange with the UK, but that does not equate animosity. You conclude that.

    Jul 25th, 2013 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #39
    Without getting into a slanging match, you could equally substitute Argentina's attitude for “British attitude”.
    My only interest in this forum is the Falkland Islands and the other S. Atlantic islands under the British flag.
    However, the vehemence of posters on both sides is really uncalled for. If we could put a name and face to posters, then maybe it could be moderated. As long as Argentina makes claims against the islands and your government peddles half truths and lies, I don't know what the answer can be.
    Strangely enough, my copy of the Scottish Rock Garden Club journal arrived today. It had an article about a field trip to the Andes foothills in Mendoza with an an Argentinian guide. They had a great time with no problems

    Jul 25th, 2013 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Truth PaTroll

    Well, I'm sure they all mentioned they were Scottish. No one in Argentina dislikes the Scots, on the contrary, and one of my father's best friends was a true Argentine-Scott.

    However I am more discerning and as long as the Scottish hide behind the UK when convenient, you are equally co-responsible for London's misadventures like Iraq et al.

    I'm am not too tough on Pugol precisely because in this one instance (the Falklands), Argentina is the obstreperous pursuer. But when taken too far, I will point it out.

    Jul 25th, 2013 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Man when the electricity is up and churning in Mendoza and his mom's let's him play on the internet.......tobi is purrrrring like a kitten.

    Jul 25th, 2013 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #41
    No , it was a European group headed by a Dutchman Ger van den Beuken and made up of 8 nationalities.
    The Scots are British and follow UK International policy in the same way as the English, Welsh and N.Irish.
    The SNP have a “Scottish International Policy” but this is just THEIR idea and has not had the vote of the Scottish Electorate.
    You will find any amount of variance as regards“Foreign Policy” throughout the whole of the British Isles.

    Jul 25th, 2013 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    41
    how silly and childish is that remark
    you like the scots
    you like the welsh
    you like the irish,

    but no doubt you hate the English,
    and the british,

    by that then i take it you like the manx and the channel islanders
    you like the western islanders , out hebradies ,

    we bet they love you down at the indocrination centre..

    Jul 25th, 2013 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Corrupt people hiding their flaws behind a race.
    As if you lot represented a race of your own.

    Stop calling me a racist. I know it's common practice in the UK, just look at Suarez, but show some respect. Or tell me which race you lot represent and how I'm being racist.
    I never called you gringos, and even if I did, gringo is not a bad word in itself. I've met too many great gringos and gringas to even consider the possibility of blaming an entire race, in this case the caucasian one, for the flaws of a few.

    I call you Brits and you call me racist. Is being a Brit such an insult to you?
    Then tell me, what country do you belong to Joe? I know, the United Commonwealth of British Overseas Territories, right?

    A Brit.

    Jul 25th, 2013 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Joe's a Falkland Islander you frickin idiot.

    An identity you don't recognise.

    Someone who you believe has less rights than other people in South America.

    So what does that make you Stevie. Intolerant? Bigoted? Fascist? Racist? You so easily believe and espouse that he has less rights than you because of his nationality and identity.

    Jul 26th, 2013 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    the United Commonwealth of British Overseas Territories, right?

    sounds rather nice,

    Jul 26th, 2013 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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