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Brazilian Navy incorporates third UK built Amazonas class ocean patrol vessel
The newest ship in the Brazilian navy's fleet has left the UK on a journey of more than 16.100km to Brazil. “Araguari” which sailed from Portsmouth is the third of three Amazonas class ocean patrol vessels delivered to the Brazilian navy by BAE Systems. Read full article
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Aug 14th, 2013 - 03:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0We make exceedingly good ships that if looked after will last for years, pay attention Argie Navy.
Aug 14th, 2013 - 04:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0nice lines on that ship
Aug 14th, 2013 - 04:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Clyde built” for the Brazilians. Could they not have got a better one from an Argentine shipbuilder ?..eh, NO. They wanted one that would float and last !
Aug 14th, 2013 - 05:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Articles such as this show that for all the talk of how the Falkland Islands damage the UK's relationship with South America; the truth is the exact opposite outside Argentina.
Aug 14th, 2013 - 05:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Helpless Decade: Just 17% of Air Force planes fly
Aug 14th, 2013 - 05:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0More delays and repair costs icebreaker Almirante Irizar
http://www.urgente24.com/217283-decada-indefensa-apenas-17-de-los-aviones-de-la-fuerza-aerea-vuela
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Aug 14th, 2013 - 05:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anglo likes to pretend that he is an Australian but this is not true. He is what we true blue Aussies call a 'pommie bastard'. He posts here to give Australia a bad name. Pommie out!
#7
Aug 14th, 2013 - 06:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0And why should we believe you are Australian ? You don't sound like ANY Australian I have ever met.
So, come on and give us deatils about yourself that can be checked and proved.
Town of birth, town of residence, school, ethnic background. Until then you will be treated as an Argie troll.
@8:
Aug 14th, 2013 - 06:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's because the only Australians you have met are pommie bastards like you.
@7 & 9 There are a lot of Australians I don't like. Mouthy, arrogant, chip-on-shoulder types. Anglotino doesn't come across as one of those. You, on the other hand, do. Considering the etymology of the word “pommy”, I don't really have a problem. Although I note that you can't spell it properly. When it comes to “bastard”, I can prove I'm not. Can you? And why would you, whatever you are, come on here just to challenge his nationality. Did you have any relevant comment to make about the subject of the article? Or are you just trolling? The action of an argie “spoiler”.
Aug 14th, 2013 - 07:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0@10:
Aug 14th, 2013 - 07:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0All pommies are bastards by definition. Being a subhuman species the pommie mother and pommie father are ineligible for marriage.
Guys don't waste your time on True Blue.
Aug 14th, 2013 - 08:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0He made the fatal trolling mistake of forgetting to change socks before commenting:
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/08/10/rajoy-calls-for-four-flag-dialogue-on-gibraltar-and-does-not-discard-unilateral-measures
True Blue comes in at post 160 but post 203 is a ripper.
He isn't Aussie and his other sock John III (Pope) isn't Chinese. And his English language skills aren't as high as he thinks.
But he is 100% bad at this.
@12:
Aug 14th, 2013 - 08:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anglo likes to pretend that he is an Australian but he isn't. He is what we true blue Aussies call a 'pommie bastard'. Pommie bastards are regarded as feral in the same way as cane toads and rabbits are regarded as feral. They are subhuman scum!
@13 have you reached the limit of daily translations on google translate or something? You seem to be posting the same retarded crap over and over
Aug 14th, 2013 - 08:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0@14:
Aug 14th, 2013 - 08:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Listen you pommie bastard when a true blue Australian posts you need to shut up and read!
And where is Brasiliero now?
Aug 14th, 2013 - 08:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0He wants nothing to do with the “whatever” he calls us (it changes so often) and you have to laugh at the argies thinking the UK souldn't be supplying ships to SA when they themselves bought complete ships (which haven't sunk) and built the one that has sunk from a kit.
Great looking ship. I wonder if they have depleted uranium rounds for the Rardon? They wouldn't dare would they, TMBOA would be really pissed off.
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Aug 14th, 2013 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pommie bastard - who gave you permission to change the topic!
I have seen this Amazonas vessel close off the coast of Bahia whilst whale-watching.
Aug 14th, 2013 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Whales are good looking, but this vessel is elegant.
Well done BAe, and well done Brasil for buying them!
I was lucky to see this ship doing its sea trials off the Isle of Wight, she is a fast ship and takes off like a whippet and will do the Brazilian navy proud.
Aug 14th, 2013 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0#12 Anglotino......I think you hooked a Sussie!!! Next it will tell you where it resides in Australia.
Aug 14th, 2013 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0@11, 13, 15, 17. Here's an explanation for you. No real Aussie would call itself “True Blue”. The relationship between the UK and Australia doesn't work that way. Many “aussies” are uneducated “things” that don't even uderstand how to wank. There are clear indications that you like to take it up the arse. Then there is the FACT that you have no valid points to make. Sorry, you're an argie cocksucker and arse receptionist. This may give you pleasure but is of no interest here. Post your (real) name, address, phone number, so that arse-shaggers can get in touch and give you a “thrill”. If you have a problem, remember that shit stinks. As do you!
Aug 14th, 2013 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 21;
Aug 14th, 2013 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0LMFAO!!!
@21:
Aug 14th, 2013 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0A typical pommie bastard trick - projecting themselves onto others. Very revealing.
(4) Clyde15
Aug 14th, 2013 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say....:
“ “Clyde built” for the Brazilians.”
Ermmm.... Not exactly.....
“ “Clyde built” for the Trinbagonians...... and cancelled.”
Bought “second hand” by the Brazilians with a more than HEFTY discount (under production cost) and an excellent technology transfer agreement....
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=238
Anyhow, a cheap, nice and above all USEFUL ship class to serve the interests of Brazil and Unasur.
#9
Aug 14th, 2013 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is getting funnier and funnier.
Try a different tune, this one has just dropped out of the top 100.
What town where live what school (if you went to one).
#24
To serve the interests of Brazil. What relevance has UNASUR ?
I am sure they will keep it out of the way of Argentina in case it catches the dreaded yellow peril and sinking disease.
@24 Think:
Aug 14th, 2013 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Still... a handsome vessel is it not?
The Bitter And Twisted Old Twat From Chew Butt does not understand how major capital contracts are signed and operated in the real world.
Aug 14th, 2013 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0BAE would have had a very sizeable deposit BEFORE commencing work, typically equal to the cost of the raw materials.
Cancellation costs would cover all the work to-date AND a pro-rata for the expected profit. That is how they can sell the uncompleted NEW ship to the satisfaction of the new customer and still make the original (if not more) profit.
Of course in The Dark Country (TDC) the argies would argue they shouldn’t pay a deposit which is why they do not have modern ships.
Oh dear, never mind.
(25) Clyde15
Aug 14th, 2013 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0You ask...:
“To serve the interests of Brazil. What relevance has UNASUR ?”
I say...:
The same relevance them mousegreyEnglish Navy ships have for NATO...
@28
Aug 14th, 2013 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The same relevance them mousegreyEnglish Navy ships have for NATO...”
There's no such thing as the 'English' Navy you twat.
What bluewater Navy could Brazil possibly defend themselves successfully?
Aug 14th, 2013 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(27) ChrisR
Aug 14th, 2013 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This handsome but humble antediluvian geezer from Chubut may not fully understand how major capital contracts are signed and operated in the real world............... but he can certainly read the news….:
(Friday, 16 November 2012)
”BAE Systems To Pay Trinidad & Tobago Government TT$1.382 Billion
- The Trinidad and Tobago government Wednesday said that the British defence firm, BAE Systems, had agreed to pay TT$1.382 billion (One TT dollar = US$0.16 cents) to settle a two year dispute over the cancellation of a multi-million dollar contract for three offshore patrol vessels.”
http://www.mnialive.com/caribbean/trinidad-a-tobago/3213-bae-systems-to-pay-trinidad-tobago-government-tt-1-382-billion.html
Chuckle chuckle©
(29) WestisBest
If you so prefer................... I could call it the Pom Navy...;-)
#28
Aug 14th, 2013 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, a talking shop of no global importance.
#29
He just cannot THINK of anything intelligent to say.
His main purpose is to try and rile people with his inane comments.
He knows full well what the colour of the RN ships are but he wants to use this expression to pretend they are ineffectual -almost as bad as the Argentine navy...do they have one ?
So, lets agree with him, the US Navy, French navy, Kriegsmarine Russian navy, Spanish navy and Brazilian navy ALL paint there ships based on the colour of their indigenous rodent mus musculus.
Do they have mice in Argentina or is it full of rats - the chubutian two legged variety.?
Good info and comments, Think
Aug 14th, 2013 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0... with a bit of teasing of the fly.
Chris's comment well clarifies the cost/benefit issue.
As a 'Brasilian', I hope the Brasilians can build the following five vessels and gain the knowledge/skills transfer.
As an Englishman, I would prefer the UK to get max. benefit.
“Which way to go? .. which way to go?”
@ 31
Aug 14th, 2013 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now add the killer:
“Financial analysts in London said that the settlement comes as a major relief to BAE which has been under pressure from investors. One analyst said the deal should be seen as a positive development because it reduced the company's political risk. ”Today's settlement is likely to be for £125-£130 million. There should be a net nil result in the working capital for the year as we understand Brazil has already paid for the ships,“ the analyst added.”
What the article did not disclose was how much BAE was paid in all before work was started.
Clearly, whoever advanced this country a ONE BILLION loan to buy these vessels has ended up as the loser, not BAE.
The working capital for BAE in unaffected.
Sounds a bit different to your little missive when you include ALL the information AND understand what your are reading AND OF COURSE YOU UNDERSTAND BIG FINANCE.
There was NO WAY a company like BAE would be at risk over this.
I see they got FOST, excellent training for them. I've been through FOST a lot of times when I was in the RN.
Aug 14th, 2013 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I bet they gain a lot from this, not just in the brilliant ship (I've been on a river class) but also in the training and expertise transfer.
You can't get better training than the RN. The RN when I was in received more training requests than any other navy.
Lets hope this is how things will continue with the decent and respected SA countries.
Stink you won't be happy when the crews of the new subs are all trained in Britain as well then. FOST best training package in the world, hence the Germans, Dutch, Greeks, Spanish (well not for a while me thinks), and most of the Northern European Navies are trained there
Aug 14th, 2013 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Our way, Geoff, our way.
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