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World Cup 2014 exposes Brazil’s lack of non-commercial aircraft infrastructure

Friday, August 16th 2013 - 17:42 UTC
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Non-commercial aircraft are expected to carry as many as one in nine international visitors to the World Cup in Brazil next year by some estimates, but industry leaders say the country is unprepared for the oncoming swarm. Read full article

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  • Brasileiro

    What country have one perfect infra-structure? That throw the first stone .....Come on, take easy.

    Aug 16th, 2013 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fido Dido

    “What country have one perfect infra-structure?”

    Answer is, none.

    Aug 16th, 2013 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Math

    The man in the picture is not Eduardo Marson, is it?

    Aug 16th, 2013 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Brasiliero

    This article is not about ALL Brazilian infrastructure, just airports. And plenty of countries don't have this problem. Especially a country that is about to host 2 major international events that need the specific infrastructure that is lacking.

    Was London lacking transport infrastructure in 2012?

    Because infrastructure is something you should try to plan for not react when it's too late.

    My city of 4 million is already slowly building up a second international airport and our first isn't even at capacity. And they already talk about the need for a third one.

    Brazil's failure to invest in infrastructure is a major reason that the economy overheats with very low growth rates and causes inflation.

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Anglotino,

    Remember, Brasil in the eighties and nineties only work for the pay IMF and the governs and capitalist around the world. Pratically, Brasil began in 2003 with the best president there ever was, Lula. Before Lula, Brasil was a colony from IMF and Paris Club and USA. Time friend, time.

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fido Dido

    “Brazil's failure to invest in infrastructure is a major reason that the economy overheats with very low growth rates and causes inflation.”

    That's exactly why there is inflation in Brazil, though Brazilian states do invest in infrastructure but too little. solutions are: invest MORE for efficient infrastructure.

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    But, only now have money to built better infra-structure. And we do.....but, two decades without invest, no resolution in 4 or 5 years. And Brasil have 27 stars in our sky (States and DF). Here is a democracy....we talk for to do.

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    The amount of revenue the Brasilian government must be taking in.......

    Very, very little of it appears to be filtering down to help joe public.

    For starters the public hostpitals there are shocking, law enforcement does not receive enough funding in every department, schools don't get enough government funding.

    A massive oil and gas industry to boast about too, - But where is all the revenue going????

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    For those not familiar with the technical jargon, this is generally referred to as “major screw-up”. A simple bit of research shows that the World Cup 2010 had an attendance of 3,178,856. Brazil has known that it would be hosting this event since November 2007. That's nearly SIX years. Now what will happen? It's simply not possible for Brazil to create sufficient air-strips in time. How unfortunate that the article doesn't say how many additional air-strips are “needed”. But Brazil can forget about “visitors” spending 7 billion Rais. I suspect that many potential “visitors” will decide not to bother. Especially when they read that Brazilian air traffic control probably won't be able to cope. No sense in dying in an air-crash for the sake of a soccer match. Will Brazil ask neighbouring countries to make their air-strips available? Will it provide free land transport? (Avoid argie railways). Will neighbouring countries be asked to make their stadiums available? (Since it seems unlikely that Brazil will finish its stadiums in time). Could there be another option? Could Brazil tell FIFA that it bit off more than it could chew and ask if a proper country could take on the role of host? Brazil would probably have to make a considerable financial contribution. Shame for Brazil to be shown to be so deficient. Still, latam countries are fairly accustomed to failure. Logic says that Europe already has the stadiums and the air transport infrastructure. Europe then. Just goes to show why third-world countries are third-world. And third-rate.

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Visitors? We don't want visitors! The world cup is ous, only ours. Go to see world cup in your rich continent, not in mine. VISA and burocracy to all visitors, except South Americans, Portugueses, Italians, Spanyards, Africans and Germans. The others are the others.

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Mmmm, Aye, I think I'll stay clear of Brasil during the world cup right enough, - AF 447 was (and still is, though the number changed) my regular flight, - Might be temting fate, flying in or out during the cup....

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    @ 11

    Thank you!

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Mind you, my Brasilian wife and daughters (half Brasilian) might be a little disappointed if dad doesn't come home to Espirito Santo....

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    12 Brasileiro

    If things are as you say regarding having no money until very lately WHY oh WHY did Brazil ASK for the FIFA World Cup and the IOC Olympics?

    Why doesn't Dilma listen to you and STOP all inward investment form ”foreigners” and the foreigners themselves going to Brazil?

    Because, although she was a Marxist terrorist in the past she is a grown up now and not a bat crazy zealot like you.

    So GROW up and try to be sensible and think about your country as other mature people do.

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    I don't have a crystal ball. If your family is Brazilian, you are Brazilian too.

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    @15;
    Thank you for the compliment.

    I now must be the only kilted Brasilian around....

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-jav2tgoA8

    Live

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Math

    Now the true Marson appears in the picture.
    And Anglotino is right, even Mexico has its paved roads and functional airports. PT spent 10 years doing nothing about infrastructure.

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    PT pay the PSDB corruption! If you live in a free country, this is because PT exist!

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    The brand new Arena Fonte Nova, Salvador, Bahia, Brasil is right in the centre of Salvador
    - with dual/triple carriage way main transit routes most of the way from the airport. It looks good on Google Maps.

    The flights in/out should be relatively ok (I have spent years living close under the flight path) but, with no Metro and no rail link, the problem is the volume of road traffic.

    Fonte das pedras, in Nazare, is theoretically 40 minutes of dual/triple carriageway but, in traffic, this could easily be 3 hours.
    As there is usually nose to tail traffic on all lanes a lot of people could miss their matches.

    There is , however, the 'Atlanta/London solution' :
    ... dedicated lanes (recipe for gridlock chaos), combined with
    ... telling companies to give the workforce the days off (a weak tactic in this case because of the mass of micro companies in the black economy, and the daily travel needs of the 'masses', as vast numbers survive day-to-day through long road journeys to and from work).
    No, the 'Atlanta/London solution' may not work here in Salvador ... or at the other stadia around this vast country.

    And hotels for everybody ... now there's another real problem!

    Sun, sea, sand and football - yes;
    but you may need the 'patience of Job'.

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    I like Bahia, i like the blacks, acarajé, Elevador Lacerda, Itaparica, Pituba, Ferry Boat, Aterro de Jesus, Pelourinho, mas, principalmente, quando eu vou em Salvador.......i eat in the better “ristorant” ....YEMANJÁ

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    20 GeoffWard2

    So what you are saying Geoff, is that if anything like the numbers of visitors turn up that are expected, it's going to be tight at best and utter choas otherwise?

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Yes... Lord. No more visitants. Don't have space.

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    16
    I think not.....Scots get everywhere......
    Brazilian Pipe band.....
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZAQpebORS0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZAQpebORS0

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    @ 24

    WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Dangerous and dirty country why would anyone go there for the Olympics it is going to be a disaster.
    When have Brazilians been known to plan anything or show up on time?

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    you spoiled the party, mexicano!

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    @24 Think:
    Told you before about us Scots............

    I rest my case.

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    @ 28 Why Scotish number 24, spoiled?

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    @29;
    Twa 't''s en Scottish min.

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    I don't can learning your language. Slang?

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Original Banff & Buchan Doric.

    Doric.

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Celtic? Like highlands?

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Even older........

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Thanks Celtic's brother.....i see you.

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Awaa! eer eabul ti see ma?

    Arr ee en Nigeria isweel??

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    35
    Take no notice of him......you were right the first time......Slang
    He's talking about a dialect, not a language.....there is no Scot's language other than Gaelic.
    It's English spoken with a dialect, with a few literal Gaelic translations thrown in.
    Take no notice.....it changes wherever you are.

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Thank you. A_Voice, the humans, included Nigerians, not perfect. Thanks

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    'Take no notice of him'

    LMFAO at you. Doric is Doric.

    You are probably the most dishonest cowardly, little turd who ever graced these threads.

    Come back when you yourself have an identity.

    Go get yourself an IDENTITY.

    OK?

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    I suggest you look up what Doric is instead of displaying your Fucking Ignorance!
    Expat Dickhead!
    Going to try and tell us it's a language you prick!
    OK!

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    WOOOOO!! Handbags at ten paces!!!

    Pissssin masell here!!!!!!

    Ohhhh Hernia commin on!!!!!!!

    Tears runnin doon ma face!!!!

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    That would be Pish ......not piss
    When's the last time you were in Scotland?........Never?
    and drop the Oor Wullie banter you sound like a friggin idiot!

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Oh Vicie...A wiz en ma hoose twa wiks ago.

    Aside Peeterheed.

    N ee wer aire faan lik??

    Dinna ever f*ck wi a Scotsman. That's friendly advice.

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    Desperate friggin Dan.......Ooo scarey.....You are a liar
    You come right out of the Sunday Post
    You're just a fanny that's all........admit it!

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Liar about what exactly 'Think?

    Liar about what???

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    Everything you said and do say.......and I'm not Think and if you think for one minute that you can pretend you stay in Scotland, when you don't......Think again.
    Doric a language.......it's friggin dialect slang ENGLISH......there's one lie for starters!
    Real Scots are not pathetic enough to embarrass themselves by indulging in The Broons.....Ooo Wullie..... “Jings”, “Crivvens”, “Braw” and “Help ma Boab”.....Crap!
    Ergo you must not be one!......Another lie!
    Got any more?

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    The Broons

    That's a comic strip from the south of Scotland.

    As A Doric speaker from NE Scotland, I really do wonder where on earth a human being so filled with haltered like yourself actually originates from?

    you are one messed up individual.

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    Gotcha.......you effing liar........ The Broons is from the NE of Scotland......Dundee to be exact......You blew it big time there!
    Told you.... you would blow it. Now think carefully before you make any other gaffes......like I said if you are pretending to live in Scotland.....you are going to come undone!

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Cock sucker.
    Where are you right now??

    Voice!!!!! C'moaan!!!

    I am a Scot - You are excrement! Just face it please

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    Got nothing to say about The Broons then?
    Every Scotsman knows fine well where these national treasures originate!!!
    Part of the friggin culture......
    You have blown yourself out of the water......no credibility at all.
    It is immaterial where I am or who I am.......I've just proved who you are not!
    Another persona bites the dust......
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE
    Keep up the pretence for all I care......just don't try to kid me!

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    You are filth.
    I am a Scot.

    Voice - You are dog shit.

    You are cowardly human excrement. You are afraid to let us know who you are.

    C,mon Voice - C'mon - Voice........

    You are dog shite in every manner of the word.

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    Now you are exposed for the liar you are......it's all insults.......but what about The Broons??
    Where are they from again??......remind me......where was it again?
    Perhaps you should Google before you Gaffe.......Mmmm a bit of an alliterative ring to that.......I like it.....Mmmm .....a Filthy Fecking Fake.....is what you are and quite Rightly I should Really, Relentlessly Ridicule you!
    Stick around I could keep this up all night!

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Math

    #24 W-O-W! Coooool song!

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    53
    What was cool was the Brazilians were playing the pipes (at a very high standard) and Glasgow Scots were playing the drums....
    More than one tune was being played, the first a Brazilian composition I don't recognise ending with two Scottish marches the last being Scotland the Brave.
    A combination of two cultures......thoroughly enjoying themselves.
    Not everything is black and white and anti SA! Despite what this forum would have folk believe!

    Aug 17th, 2013 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    @52:

    I am a Scot, from where I say I am from. This is fact.

    What you are 'voice' is a different matter, - You are an internet troll with no identity. I'm a Doric speaker from the NE of Scotland, - Where are you from 'voice'???

    Answer me now...

    C'mon you little turd - tell us all about yourself - If you have the balls that is.

    And by the way, if you want to hear some real music, google the pipes and drums of the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards.

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 03:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    LIAR.......LIAR.....LIAR
    YOU WERE PROVED A LIAR
    YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT SCOTLAND
    YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT PIOB MHOR
    WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU WERE IN SCOTLAND.......LIAR!
    ESCOSES FALSO.......
    ESCOSES FALSO.......
    ESCOSES FALSO.......
    GO FCUK YOURSELF YOU LIAR!
    I'M GOING TO HAUNT YOU LIAR!

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 04:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    LMFAO!!!!!!

    Darling, you really need to control that temper of yours.

    Now, - Again, as a Scot, born and bred in the 'Broch' I am asking you (for the benefit of all reading this) where do you come from?

    Where do you come from?

    (and don't try to change the subject my dear)

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 04:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    Save your Google... Wiki knowledge of Scotland for some fool.....I KNOW DIFFERENT LIAR......LIAR
    ESCOSES FALSO.......
    ESCOSES FALSO.......
    There is no coming back from your Stupid Gaffe...... LIAR
    Remind me again.........
    SCOTTISH WANNABE!........YOU OUTED YOURSELF......LIAR
    I'm bored with you now..... you have lost your entertainment value and I'm no longer interested in your pathetic pretence and pleading.......
    I'm a Scot......I really am......please believe me.....I'm a Scot......Please.....
    Say it all you like but...
    You have been judged......and found wanting....

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 04:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Hey A_Voice.

    I see you are around and yet haven't replied to my challenge on this article:
    http://en.mercopress.com/2013/08/10/rajoy-calls-for-four-flag-dialogue-on-gibraltar-and-does-not-discard-unilateral-measures

    8.5 hours and I'm still waiting.

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 04:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Wow, you really want to be ablr to call yourself a Scot (like me) don't you.

    I'm guessing one of your parents is Scottish, or perhaps your Grand parents?

    So you judged me, and found me wanting? (a knight's tale?)

    Actually voice we Scots are renownd for our tenacity, - To that end, I shall be the one who haunts you........

    Now, like I said, forget about me for just a moment, and tell everybody reading this where you hail from.

    Where are you from? It's a really simple question..........

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 04:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    Friggin idiot as well as a Liar.......I was paraphrasing a biblical quote.....
    “Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting.”
    Already moved from Peterhead to Fraserburgh.......Save it.....Liar
    I know you are hoping your stupid gaffe will be forgotten.....I won't let it!
    ESCOSES FALSO.......the Scottish Wannabe.......Got any new lies to tell?

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 05:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Born and bred, in 'Braitsee' Fraserburgh, - Flittet to Peterhead when I was ten years old.

    Now, - Like I said, forget me for a moment, and tell us all where you are from.

    Where are you from voice????

    faar ar ye fae???

    faar are ye fae, ma quine??

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 05:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    Yawn .....here we go with the embarrassing comic dialect again.......Ooooo...you must be Scottish......not!
    I've pretty much squeezed all the entertainment value I can get from you, you are now boringly repeating yourself.......you are so 'yesterdays news'
    passé ........Escoses Muerto
    moving on......

    59...Hey Anglotino
    You are not mad at me.....are you, I thought we were pals Skip?

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 05:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Oh voice, voice, you can't get away like that.

    Come on now, share with everybody (as I have) where you come from....

    It's so simple a question, yet you are so scared to answer.

    How can anyone reading your posts take you seriously, if you are outwardly hiding who you are?

    C'mon voice be brave, and let us know a tiny tiny bit about you.....

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 05:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    A_Voice I didn't expect you to reply.

    And we don't have“pals” down under we have mates.

    Hmm are you a mate? I don't know what do you think?

    But as you call me skip I assume you think of me as a “pal”.

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 05:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Oh, by the way voice, - As this is the Brasil thread (as opposed to the Falklands thread) I'd like to ask you if you have any experiance of Brasil?

    Ever been there?

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 05:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    ......all you have shared is lies, anyone can do that.
    As I said, you are just repeating yourself.....boring!
    I have no intention of sharing anything with a LIAR and one so easily proved.
    So go and impress the SA posters with your comic dialect.....;-))))

    Me......I'm a citizen of the World

    Now there's a Latte with my name on it......I'm coming for you baby!
    Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon........Gone!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCVVvNLUjTU

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 06:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Well that was totally expected.

    I'll show poor A_Voice how easy it is!

    -37.753289,144.945754

    I live within 1km of that position. And STILL I'm anonymous.

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 06:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    God, what a pathetic cop-out that last post of yours is.

    We all want to know a little about you voice, and I'd like to know why you have a soft spot for my country also.......

    C'mon honey, don't be like so dismissive 'n' stuff.....

    Why are you so scared of sharing something 'real' about yourself?

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 06:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • macsilvinho

    The truth is that the countries that would suit for a World Cup or such similar big events do not want all the burden so they threw this bad business to poor, underdeveloped countries like Brazil whose government badly, desperately needs propaganda. With all the corruption in this country the world will watch a much worse show than that of South Africa and FIFA already stated that the World Cup should not take place in Brazil. Everytime I pass in front of the brand new Gremio Stadium in the entrance of Porto Alegre my eyes hurt, it is so ugly and will be so useless! People will not get to it during the games, they will certainly listen in their car radio! Foreign tourists? I doubt they will come with so much violence everywhere in this country! And those who do come get ready to pay prices similar to Tokyo, the difference: it is not Tokyo here and you will see few Japaneses.

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @10 And so the 2014 Brazilian egg cup!
    @12 It's just that no-one wants cholera or typhoid!
    @15 Sure you don't have crystal balls? Can we smash them against a wall? Being a Brazilian is nothing to be proud of. Try finding something notable.
    @21 Please improve your spelling. It's not “ristorant”. It's “soup kitchen”.
    @37 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_language Whoops! Another prat making a prat of itself.
    @40 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_language And now who's a FUCKING SHITHEAD?
    @56 A well-known argie tactic. Shout, scream, lie, threaten, whine. Pitiful.
    @58 Sorry. What you are is a SHIT. I realise that two letters are the same, but you don't crack it. I've known many Scots and none act like you. Try acting you age. About 13 I'd say.
    @61 “Friggin”. Not a word any Scot would use. It's american, tosspot. And you can't even spell it!
    @67 “I'm a citizen of the World” Hahahahahaha. Got a “World” passport have you? Typical argie cunt. Daren't admit real nationality. But you have every right to be ashamed. Argieland is a pretty shameful place. Belligerent, corrupt, criminal, degenerate, depraved, larcenous, mendacious. Pick every nasty word in every language and it probably applies to argieland.
    Prepared to own up to what you are? Bet you daren't.
    @70 Hope you're right. Really want to see Brazil with egg on its face. Running down its shirt. Soaking its shorts. and dripping on its feet. My only regret is that it isn't argieland. At least Brazil tries. Argieland doesn't. Let's all get together, hate argieland and crap on it from a great height.

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • macsilvinho

    71 Conqueror (#) You are OK! I gave good laughs. One Argentine friend explained to me what is Argentina: ”When they had abundant gas, their government put up pipe gas for all the capital's homes so they were warm during the winter and the proce was extremely low. When the summer came Argies opened their windows because it was too hot - and did not turn the heating off because it was too cheap. So the gas reserves ended and now Argentina has to import gas from Bolivia. Brazil is different, but I assure you: Argentina is still better than Brazil ( I am Brazilian), and has a bigger chance to reach developement once they find ood representatives, In Brazil the situation seems to be never-ending, no solution in sight NEVER!

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    @72 Silvio:
    Have you as a Brasilian been to Argentina?
    Reason I ask, is one of my Brasilian buddies and his family recently went there on holiday.
    They were telling me that they found the Argentinians rather rude, even to the point of his wife walking out of a shop at one point, because the staff were rude to her.

    Do you know anyone with a similar story?

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    71....Armchair General
    from your own link........
    “Consequently, Scots is generally regarded as one of the ancient varieties of English,”
    ......second link.........Doric dialect (Scotland), a Scots dialect
    Like I said you stupid English Fanny.......A Dialect......not a language.....can't you read?
    Please do continue making an arse of yourself and try to get out your bedroom/Command Centre.......more!
    Scots LANGUAGE that they originally brought with them from Ireland is GAELIC OR Q-CELTIC......the rest is English dialect

    “@61 “Friggin”. Not a word any Scot would use. It's american, tosspot. And you can't even spell it!”
    STUPID AGAIN.......DO YOU REMEMBER THIS?......
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV6R0I2oHKY
    GOD I LOVE TAKING THE PISS OUT OF YOU!
    'Ya Fanny'.....

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Ahhh she's back.

    Come on then voice, tell us all a bit about yourself.

    Just where you're from, that's all, it'll make you seem like a real person instead of just a voice. (so to speak/type)

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @74 Thanks for spending the time, divot. (divot = A torn up piece of turf). Did you “think” I didn't read the items first? Mind you, a Scot would have known. How easy it is to con a wanker. Oh, and a dumb bunch of 70s wannabes? I didn't know they were argies. But they were certainly tossers. Perhaps you could try links that further your case. So far, you just come over as a desperate argie prick. Perhaps you could make enquiries of computer literate people at the University of Bastards and Arses.

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • macsilvinho

    Escoses Doido Yes, I visit Buenos Aires once or twice a year and it is a fantastic city, in my opinion after São Paulo, Buenos Aires is the best in SA. Bonaerenses can be compared to Parisians, but they are not rude. I like them. They are OK. They are not sweet like Chileans either... The biggest problem nowadays is counterfeited money and dishonest taxi drivers. This is terrible and afffects tourists directly. Outside Buenos Aires people are even nicer. The country is gorgeous, as a Brazilian I can say: it is much, by far, more beautiful than Brazil, no country in LA compares to Argentina in beauty, diversity, from deserts to snow - it is really a beautiful country! Pity they have had such bad governments!

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    76
    “Oh, and a dumb bunch of 70s wannabes?”
    Either you are a really old fart.....or you are not English!
    The Sex Pistols weren't wannabes, they were original.....like them or hate them their contribution and inspiration to music is legendary!

    If you read the links......why did you shoot yourself in the foot and let me make a fool of you?
    BTW Who ever said I was a Scot.....do you ever read any posts at all?
    Feeling Stupid again?......'Ya Fanny'
    Tell me wise guy.....if you are not a citizen of the world, what are you ...a FRIGGIN Alien?

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    @77:
    Thanks for opining.
    I think I'll take the family there.
    I'd never condemn a place just because of the people who run it.
    Cheers.

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conor J

    @78
    You're not in a good mood, are you?

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    A_Voice

    Why won't you reply to me?

    Aren't I alluring enough anymore?

    http://en.mercopress.com/2013/08/10/rajoy-calls-for-four-flag-dialogue-on-gibraltar-and-does-not-discard-unilateral-measures#comment269472
    C'mon it all started at post 214.

    (I highly suggest it to those that want a good laugh from Shitlock Holmes whose deductive powers seem a bit wonky).

    C'mon Aaaaaaaaaaavooiiicee whyyyyyyy whyyyyyy why don't you love me anymore?

    I'm sure this isn't the first time you have heard this; but your performance was a bit lacking and sorta promised a lot and... well..... failed to live up to expectations.

    Is it a performance anxiety thing or just age?

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    @80
    ......No
    @81
    Hey Skip.....Calm down you are making a scene and stop trying to scratch my eyes out on the other thread.....it's unbecoming.
    I am surprised that you still don't see your common grammatical mistakes....now that is comforting.....something definitely lacking there!
    Stop playing the gay card on me.....I couldn't care less.....I don't have an issue.
    Stop playing to an audience, most people don't give a shit!
    Now here's a sweet phrase for you......

    AVoice has left the building

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Have you Fcuk left the building.

    Yet again - Where are you from troll???

    Scared shitless aren't you. Ja,ja,ja..

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Math

    # 72 macsilvinho The Brits and Americans here are too passionate about Argentina to say that they are only behind Chile and Uruguay in Latin America. Actually, I believe Argentina has a brighter future than this european excrement we call Russia. A president that choses the governors for you - now that is democracy!

    #73 Escoses Doido I don't know about macsilvinho, but Buenos Aires is arrogant. Since they're more cosmopolitan they're more okay with brownies, I think. The rest of them is the opposite: ethinicity plays a role, but they're common humble people. A cynic country that will treat you differently depending on where you're from or what's your skin tone. On the race side, to be fair, I think it is natural that more homogenous places will always carry this stronger prejudices. You see that in Chile and regions of Brazil.

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    82 voice

    “Playing the gay card... ”

    VoicethinkedOver,
    YOU are the one 'playing the gay card', not Anglotino, and certainly not myself.

    You fall into 'Argie Defense Mode' accusing people of “stalking” you and being gay, just like “Pirat Hunter” ALEX VARGAS used to do when he didn't like attention.
    We only give you attention because you provoke us with ridiculous lies. We hold you feet to the fire to see if you can back up your statements.

    You expect us to take you as having objective opinions on subjects, but you have no credibility when you hide your allegiances and refuse to acknowledge where you derive your perspective.

    You run away from a lot of questions, bobbing and weaving, and finally, “Doofus has left the building” LOL

    Odd that you will not say you are British yourself, yet you are angrily indignant towards those who assert that they are “more British” than you, LOL

    Obviously, you have some real anger and inferiority issues regarding us Brits,
    It's quite clear that you ironically prize your British primary education, but you can never BE a Brit.

    You must be ashamed of being Argentine for some reason - you are like Stevie, never once having an ounce of compassion for the lot of the average person in Argentina, and never allowing criticism of the corrupt leaders of your country that victimise them.

    You are so AFRAID OF BEING CRITICISED that you tell us nothing about yourself, and likely switch to other character names to make use of their established identities.

    So tell us again which of us are the puppetmasters and which are their 'socks'

    No?

    Still no reply?

    Thought so.

    :-)

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • macsilvinho

    84 Math Believe me Argies are much, much less racist than white Brazilians ( and not so white Brazilians)! I am not by any means defending Argentina, I am Brazilian (Israeli born), I am for the Falklands British or Independent as the Kelpers wish. I am against all the mistakes Argentinian governments have done in the past and still do mostly to keep Argies attentions away from constant financial crisis. It seems Spain, too, is imitating Argentina...

    Aug 18th, 2013 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Truth PaTroll

    Who the f'k knows who all the people above me are, or what they are talking about. So in honor of it:

    Prisencolinensinainciusol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcUi6UEQh00

    All English native speakers should do yourselves a favor and listen to this, because this is how you sound to 85% of the planet!

    Aug 19th, 2013 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    LOLs at A_Voice!

    Aug 19th, 2013 - 03:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Troll @87:
    This is an English language site.

    If you don't like it go away, do us all a favour, lay down and quietly die.

    Thanks.

    Aug 19th, 2013 - 03:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Truth PaTroll

    I see on top of it all, no sense of humor.

    Or what, did you think that only Chinese, German, Italian, Russian, Spanish, Arabic. etc sounded funky and strange (because you don't understand them).

    Aug 19th, 2013 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @78 Hello wanker. Or has it dropped off? “Sex Pistols - legendary”? Much like Hitler is “legendary”. And the Mussolini prat.
    Why would I read your posts? The first half-dozen words are enough to identify a juvenile, farting wanker. How unfortunate that physics dictates that shit floats. It would be best if it disappeared back up its own and choked it to death. What a wonderful prospect. Shitters choking on their own.
    And, to answer your question, I've never wanted to be a citizen of “the world”. It's an assertion made by the inadequate. “The world” has cankers that I choose not to be associated with. Argieland, Bolivia, Ecuador, Iran, North Korea, Pakistan, Syria. There are others. I am a citizen of the greatest nation the world has ever seen. A status your “state” couldn't aspire to for at least a thousand years. A nation that improved the lives of billions. Including those who like to deny what they owe. Whoops, did I just refer to someone who owes more than US$100 billion and refuses to pay. Who twists, wriggles, squirms, lies, cheats and refuses to tell the truth even in a court of law.
    @82 “AVoice has left the building” Excellent. Now stay out. For preference, slump over a toilet and follow precedent. Try to remember that you are a failure. You can't overcome inadequacy. Consider coming back when you have something that matches our achievements.

    Aug 19th, 2013 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    90TTT
    “no sense of humour”

    we don't find you witty or funny, and you trivialise issues that affect innocent people's lives and freedom, all for the sake of greed of certain governments.

    You pathetically crave attention, but you are insignificant to us,

    yawn

    Aug 19th, 2013 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Truth PaTroll

    Oh please. The Falklanders are safe, so are the Gibraltarians, so are the Ceutans and the Melillans.

    Aug 19th, 2013 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Oh, please
    See post #92

    Aug 19th, 2013 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    @90;
    Massive sense of humour. But not toward malicious trolls.

    Now gwaanflingpeshabootyirsail.

    Aug 19th, 2013 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    82 A_Voice

    “Stop playing to an audience, most people don't give a shit!”

    You know, when the posters on here get you to f**k yourself over in public, I am ALWAYS interested.... It beats hands down, the pathetic wailing and half truths / lies you spout on a daily basis!!!!

    88 Anglotino

    LOL's indeed, I think your work here is done...................... for today

    Aug 19th, 2013 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • macsilvinho

    No commercial and no private infrastructure in Brazil: only corruption, crime and drugs. This is our people, this is the government we deserve!
    Ypu believed in the lies of the corruPTion Party that governs Brazil lying and robbing?

    Aug 19th, 2013 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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