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Argentina formalizes reciprocity request for Aerolineas in Chile and Brazil air markets

Friday, August 30th 2013 - 01:55 UTC
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Argentine officials publicly stated on Thursday there was no intention of expelling any commercial airline from the country because Aerolineas Argentinas is working well, but called on Latam to help the Argentine flag carrier with reciprocity in Chile and Brazil. Read full article


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  • Frank

    The last time these dropkicks operated in Chile they only flew the two routes.... Santiago - Pto Montt and Santiago- Punta Arenas... probably the two biggest money spinners in Chile and they still went broke.

    Aug 30th, 2013 - 04:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zathras

    “The reciprocity criteria means that when a country demands something from another, it must acknowledge the same conditions in enjoys in that territory”, pointed out the Argentine Transport minister.

    Is it me or is that as ever the Argie attitude. We demand X so you must give that to us.

    Aug 30th, 2013 - 04:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JuanGabriel

    How dumb are they? Letting Aerolineas operate in Chilean and Domestic markets isn't reciprocity, Lan Argentina is Argentian with majority Argetinian ownership. Aerolineas is government owned and massively subsidised. There is no way an Argentine airline could compete in Chile or Brazil under the same terms as LAN Argentina operates.

    Aug 30th, 2013 - 04:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    I think it is a great idea. Aerolíneas would of course have to abide by the legal, financial and safety regimes of Chile and Brazil.

    However should the Argentinean government and therefore the Argentinean taxpayer be willing to subside the travel arrangements of Chilean and Brazilian citizens in those countries then that is a matter for them to accept the consequences. Which would be, considering the budget deficit and exchange rate, more than likely be higher taxes. .

    Aug 30th, 2013 - 05:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Do you think AR will DEMAND to operate the route from Chile to the Falklands?

    Aug 30th, 2013 - 05:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    Aerolineas doesn't want to operate in the domestic markets of other South American nations. This is just being used as an excuse to bar other carriers from operating in Argentina. They couldn't compete without subsidy in other markets - which I assume is why they are not allowed and they can't even compete in their own market against the likes of LAN. Anyone who read the pdf that somebody linked to the other day will understand the politics behind this. It's all tied up with Kirchnerism an La Campora

    Aug 30th, 2013 - 06:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Iron Man

    Chile and Brazil should call their bluff and let them set up domestic flights. Then when they have built a hangar or two, confiscate it.

    Aug 30th, 2013 - 06:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    It must be recognised that AR “own” very few aircraft. Nearly everything is leased because Maximo spent the money on doughnuts and cream cakes. He's not called “Maximo” for nothing. So who knows what the legal situation would be? Let's assume AR has a hangar at Santiago. It fails, almost certainly, to pay the rent. How does Chile get on with seizing any aircraft? Word to Brazil and Chile. Make sure AR pays for everything in advance in US dollars!

    Aug 30th, 2013 - 07:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    To do what LAN argie did re “rent” Crates R Us motto: Ride and Die © means they need to pay USD 312 M up front for landing rights and “services”. Oh yes, that is really going to happen.

    Aug 30th, 2013 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    AR is costing us, the Argentine taxpayer, about U$S3 million per day, whilst flying some international routes and some internal routes, for AR to fly domestic routes in Chile and Brasil would certainly cost us another U$S3 million per day!!!!!!

    We can't afford it!!!!!!!

    Aug 30th, 2013 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    I agree with all the comments above.

    Even this troupe of clowns isn't as stupid as their comments would make us believe. Kicillof knows that Lan has no say in whether AR operates in Chile or not. They are just, as always, painting themselves as victims.
    I am all for competition and would welcome more competition on domestic routes. If AR wants to invest in Chile and pay the going rates for landing slots, airport services etc, then they are welcome.

    Aug 30th, 2013 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Sergio Vega

    Well, there is a way to let AA to fly domestic routes in Chile & Brazil.....Latam executives must manage de whole company and AA will be for the first time a profit company....!!
    So, the La Campora gang could take more money from the taxes for their own pockets....

    Aug 30th, 2013 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ayayay

    Is there some.rule that they all have to dress like they're at a funeral?

    Aug 30th, 2013 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Truth PaTroll


    Yes it is, you got a problem with it? F00k 0ff.

    Aug 30th, 2013 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Yeah, you just admitted you are unreasonably demanding.

    “Unreasonable” - why should we deal with you, if you agree that what you demand and the way you deal with people is not realistic, and a deliberate intimidating attitude??

    Aug 30th, 2013 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    2. That is why they're having such a hard time grasping what is happening to them in the US courts.

    Aug 31st, 2013 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    @10. I'm sure part of the “reciprocity” deal will have that $3m/day being paid directly by Chile and Brazil -- all of which will go to Aerolineas' La Campora brown shirting -- hopefully not to fund the trolls here 'cause they just ain't gettin' their money's worth as it is!

    Sep 01st, 2013 - 08:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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