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Spain plans to damage Gibraltar economy by fining companies in the bunkering business
Spain plans to fine bunkering companies operating in Gibraltar waters sums of up to two million Euros and the Finance ministry was planning to ban the sale of petroleum products to the Rock, particularly since they pay no VAT. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesSpain is welcome to try all these things. However I am unsure if it is able to “prohibit the sale of petroleum products to Gibraltar” as Gibraltar is part of the European Union Customs Union and Economic Community.
Aug 31st, 2013 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not sure how you can restrict trade in a common market.
As for the fines. Well I can't wait for that idea to have the shit shot out of it by the European Commission.
Way to go Spain!
Aug 31st, 2013 - 02:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Get those ugly, polluting English tankers out of the European Community Protected Natural Area of the Bay of Algeciras….
700,000,000 Europeans will thank you for that!
Where did you find that many Europeans?
Aug 31st, 2013 - 03:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Turnip at (3) asks...:
Aug 31st, 2013 - 03:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Where did you find that many Europeans?”
I say....:
In Europe...
Area: 3,930,000 sq mi...
Population 739,165,030...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe
Ummm Think I hate to break it to you but Spain actually hasn't done anything yet!
Aug 31st, 2013 - 04:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just talked about it. Which it seems to have in common with your own government.
But so glad you are a supporter of extraterritorial laws by one country over another. I'm sure that sentiment won't come back to bite you on the arse much.
PMSL
Spain is thinking of doing this, Spain is thinking if doing that. Not seen much evidence of anything as yet.
Aug 31st, 2013 - 04:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Madrid wants a distraction, it doesn't want a trade war it knows it will lose. Meanwhile the British government says it won't act on rhetoric and that is all we have had so far.
Aww look, I_Don't_Think is getting all excited, about nothing, as usual.
Aug 31st, 2013 - 05:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Spain is in for a world of pain. I wonder how long it'll be before it collapses up it's own arse.
Because it will get there, and Spain will divide with areas opting for self-determination and independence.
Oh, and Spain, good luck with trying to break European law. The next time you need a bail out, the answer will be a firm NON, NEIN, GET LOST.
Cameron: “Get me off the hook here; blasting Syria's one step beyond”
Aug 31st, 2013 - 06:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Millibrand: “But I can't help you out - I'm the Opposition!”
Cameron: “ Yeah, I know ... ordinarily. But we're going to need our remaining navy and airforce to deal with the Spanish around Andalucia and Gibraltar.”
@1 Sorry, Gibraltar isn't part of the EU's customs union. Which is why Spain can't charge VAT on goods it exports to Gibraltar.
Aug 31st, 2013 - 06:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0But I do wonder how Spain is planning to levy fines on Gibraltar-based companies in respect of vessels anchored in British Gibraltar Territorial Waters. Summons the companies to appear before a Spanish court? Well, they could show respect and turn up. Then tear the fine document to pieces in front of the judge. How about trying to board the anchored vessels? That's piracy.
@2 Point 1. Spain has no jurisdiction. Point 2. There is no such place as the Bay of Algeciras. Point 3. “A European Community Protected Natural Area”? Defined by Spain? In British territory. Only a particularly corrupt Spanish “judge” would go with that! Much like a lot of argie “judges” actually.
@7 You do understand that a lot of Spaniards volunteer for lobotomies. For some reason they like having their “brains” stirred. Just like argies, they cannot be persuaded to listen to facts or reason. Just look at one of their national characteristics. They put a guy with a cloak and a sword in an arena and release a bull. Somewhat reminiscent of the “games” held by the ancient Romans. I would be in favour of this cultural “sport” if they took the bull out and put another guy with a cloak and a sword in the arena. With any luck, they'd kill each other. With that result in mind, I'd recommend 23 million “contests” every year. A real “knock-out” competition!
#2
Aug 31st, 2013 - 07:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes Think, of course Think, don't get TOO excited it's not going to happen. I don't believe that it has made front line news in Georgia, Armenia, Russia, Svalbard,Azerbijan, Belarus, Moldova,Montenegro, Kosovo Turkey etc.
Of course as usual, its the nasty Brits to blame ....however......
Algeciras dump wastewater directly into the sea. On the beach of Puente Mayorga, a stretch of sand punctuated by pipes belonging to an oil refinery, oil pellets stuck to swimmers' feet. Here, local industries dump huge amounts of chloride, fluoride, nitrogen, phosphorus, lead, arsenic, and other chemicals into the bay.
How come nobody complains about that ?
Nobody complaints because they are all too busy picking their noses!!
Aug 31st, 2013 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0www.ahajokes.com/crt923.html
(10) Clyde15
Aug 31st, 2013 - 08:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
How come nobody complains about that ?
I say...:
What are you waiting for?
“”“”“”“”“Get those ugly, polluting English tankers out of the European Community Protected Natural Area of the Bay of Algeciras….”“”“”“”“”“”
Aug 31st, 2013 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0i suspect their bigger problem is that they will have to do the same with the Spanish bunkering tankers in other ports around Spain.
which, well, its a big shot in the foot (again) .. rather like your comment :-0
Gibraltar could easily source petroleum products from countries other than Spain - thus Spain shoots itself in the foot yet again.
Aug 31st, 2013 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0And the UK should plan to fine bunkering companies operating in Ceuta waters sums of up to two million Euros LOL
@10 Actually, La Linea dumps sewage straight into the sea that pollutes Gibraltar beaches. There is a case for inserting something “aussie” into the outflow. Would it make a difference? Possibly. A lot of “aussies” are already full of shit. Just look, a possible two in one job. Stick a certain “aussie” in the outflow. Gob open naturally. Then the RAF can fly in and “excavate” a 3,000 cubic metre hole to landward. No major change. I've been there. La Linea is a shithole anyway. “Aussie” would be right at home.
Aug 31st, 2013 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Reminds me of Gollum threatening the FI Oil Companies with court action.
Aug 31st, 2013 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0It has about the same chance as well: NFC.
I forget to mention. “Aussie sunshine” means the same as “convict arse spreader”. Also “daily argie butt fuck”.
Aug 31st, 2013 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#12
Aug 31st, 2013 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't you ? You are the one making the comments. So to be fair and rounded in your “concern” you should equally condemn the Spanish who are actually polluting the bay and not some possible disaster which may never happen . Again, your sole purpose on these sites is to find something that you can report against the dastardly Brits./Falklanders/Gibraltarians and ignore any other transgressions from any of your favoured countries who can never do wrong in your twisted point of view.
@14
Aug 31st, 2013 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Agreed.
(18) Clyde15
Aug 31st, 2013 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One thing you got right.......
My sole purpose on this site is to expose them English in their appalling double speak, their utter lack of ethics and their insufferable haughtiness in respect of the 12,000,000 km2 of South-Atlantic and Antarctic territory they try to steal from my country, Argentina.
If that includes commenting on the ongoing English double speak, lack of ethics and haughtiness in other parts of the World as Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Gibraltar, Cyprus, etc. etc. etc…….............. so be it.
Being “Fair” and “Rounding up concerns” has always been a waste of time against you Goddams....
Gibraltar: Earth, Air, Water and Spanish Fire.
Aug 31st, 2013 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By George Morrall
conservativecompanion.co.uk/2013/08/08/gibraltar-earth-air-water-and-spanish-fire/
this will answer your questions on British Gibraltar
.. Many will have become aware, in the past few days, of renewed Spanish aggression towards the people of Gibraltar
A combined Anglo-Dutch Fleet, with Catalonian support, captured Gibraltar in 1704
Article X of The Treaty of Utrecht 1713.
“The Catholic King does hereby, for himself, his heirs and successors, yield to the Crown of Great Britain the full and entire propriety of the town and castle of Gibraltar, together with the port, fortifications, and forts thereunto belonging; and he gives up the said propriety to be held and enjoyed absolutely with all manner of right for ever, without any exception or impediment whatsoever.”
(The complete Article X) www.gbc.gi/upload/pdf/Treaty%20of%20Utrecht
Convention on the Law of the Sea.
Spain signed and ratified the convention. The convention entered into force on the 16th November 1994
Every State has the right to establish the breadth of its territorial sea up to a limit not exceeding 12 nautical miles, measured from baselines determined in accordance with this Convention
Whenever a Spaniard next tells you that Gibraltar is Spanish you can tell him that Article X of the treaty of Utrecht says otherwise. You may also wish to point out the two referendums held in Gibraltar regarding sovereignty
....its interesting reading
as seen on other blog..
#21
Aug 31st, 2013 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unlike you, I don't have to expose the Argies appalling ignorance and paranoic words and actions. It is painfully obvious in ALL of your posts. For example “my countries South Atlantic and Antarctic”
So nice of you to award yourself something to which you hold no title, but again, it's what the world has come to expect. Your delusions of grandeur are boundless !
we thinks you have tthe wrong post Clyde15
Aug 31st, 2013 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0conqueror take your medicine and don´t get excited now !! do you hear?!
Aug 31st, 2013 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 20 The Bitter And Twisted Old Twat Of Chew Butt
Aug 31st, 2013 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Firstly, my experience of you convinces me you have no conception of the meaning of “fair” because at every opportunity you are mendacious and obfuscate the real meaning of anything to suit your own pitiful view of your adopted country (you are a Swede, Norwegian or similar by birth or is it Chile where your other, wealthy, side of the family comes from that you claim?).
Surely, referring to anyone other than a LatAm as a turnip must be the height of haughtiness, considering that The Dark Country is seen by modern countries as absolutely the epitome of self-serving and corrupt quasi-dictatorships, hell bent on robbing all of its citizens blind without even bothering to conceal it.
Secondly, speaking for myself, I do not lie or take part in double speak or indeed lack any ethics even though I am an atheist. What you see is what I am and I care not if the likes of you despise me or whatever, because I shall never be as pitiful as you.
I bet that you never show the argie side of your true nature when you travel through Europe just in case you end up arrested having upset the locals with all your pathetic lies.
So Spain plans economic warfare...damages itself lol, its like a scattergun approach, let's try all these shit ideas and maybe one of them will work
Aug 31st, 2013 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0conqueror take your medicine and don´t get excited now !! do you hear?!
Aug 31st, 2013 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20 I_Don't_Think
Sep 01st, 2013 - 05:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0The English don't double speak, unlike your people in Argentina who just outright lie.
What about your own double-speak?
You never did answer my question, that I posed months ago. You may recall (I certainly do) that you were slagging of Her Majesty The Queen, and accusing her of being German, despite the fact that her mother was Scottish and her father was English.
You put her nationality as German because she had some German ancestors. When I asked you how long someone has to live in a country before they can be considered that nationality, you ran away and didn't answer.
This is the real you. A two-faced coward. Because to answer would've meant that EVERY SINGLE person in ARGENTINA of non indigenous decent, wouldn't actually be Argentine.
For instance, you President would be German, wouldn't she? Your foreign minister Ukrainian. And so on and so forth.
In fact, none of the Argentine government is actually Argentine, because none of them are indigenous people.
So your reveal your own hypocrisy every time you post.
And that makes you and all of your posts worthless and without any credibility. Even more so, when you, in your cowardly fashion, have to invent sock-puppets to 'desperately' agree with your position.
As for the actual story. Spanish children are in danger of malnutrition, and the Spanish government hasn't lifted ONE finger to help any of them, much prefering to flog this dead horse.
Shame on them, and shame on you for supporting them.
@24, 27 No, I don't “hear”. It's because this site operates with the WRITTEN word. Perhaps you have to say the words so you can spell them out. Don't be ashamed. Many illiterate apes have the same problem. Although being Spanish does pose a particular problem. It's because Spaniards are lobotomised at parturition.
Sep 01st, 2013 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0@28 Don't be nasty to Thicky. He can't help it. Being congenitally inadequate, he has to try to anonymously assert himself. Just look at his recent “assertion”. “12,000,000 km2 of South-Atlantic and Antarctic territory they try to steal from my country, Argentina.” What a stupid thing to come out with. The British Antarctic Territory is, by definition, British. Argieland didn't even know that Antarctica was there until a British expedition gave them a meteorological station. Didn't “claim” a thing until Hitler told them to. Anyone intelligent would have dropped the “claim” when Hitler lost the war and topped himself. Then there's South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands. The clue is in the names. Named in honour of King George III and the Earl of Sandwich. Then there's the Falklands Archipelago. 12,173 km2 of undoubted British territory. Then there's all the surrounding seas. UNCLOS says that all islands have, where appropriate, their own continental shelves. But Thicky likes to trot out these “assertions” without any justification in order to demonstrate his “education”. Courtesy of the argie Foreign Ministry.
#23 Apologies, should have been #20, although I think you guessed to whom I was replying !
Sep 01st, 2013 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aussie_sunshine
Sep 01st, 2013 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can prove conclusively that you are currently living in Melbourne.
Up for the challenge or will you ignore it, deflect from it, fudge it or just plain run away?
Here's your chance to prove me wrong. A_Voice, Think, Stevie, Nostrils would jump at this chance and I'm handing it to you on a platter.
A little like banning wardrobes in Narnia !
Sep 02nd, 2013 - 04:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0ie. unenforceable and laughable :-)
#20 I think think your find we succesfully “stole” the falklands as its been in british hands for 150 years now :)
Sep 02nd, 2013 - 05:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think is a 1st generation Argie so he is required to 'think' rather less than the average Argie and swallow the bullsh*t rather more.
Sep 02nd, 2013 - 06:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ Think, Remind us all again why Argentina is not a good enough country for you to live in.
Sep 02nd, 2013 - 07:04 am - Link - Report abuse 030 Clyde15
Sep 02nd, 2013 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0cheers
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