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Rajoy offers talks to Catalonia but no indication of an independence vote
Spain's Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy offered to hold talks with Catalonia, but gave no indication he would allow the wealthy north-western region to vote on independence. The offer of talks was made in a letter sent to the head of Catalonia's regional government, Artur Mas, only three days after hundreds of thousands of Catalans formed a 400-km human chain to push their independence bid and demand a referendum. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“I also believe that our ties cannot be broken without huge ...economic, political and social costs.”
Sep 15th, 2013 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Catalonia is not looking to break ties, just reconfigure them. An independent Catalonia within the EU will have just as many ties with the Kingdom of Spain as is does now. They will just be between equals.
The Spanish government's actions have only strengthened the desire for independence. Spain really should have looked to Canada and the UK before inserting its foot so firmly in its mouth.
It's funny, I always though Belgium would split first, but if Madrid continues this way, it will probably be Spain.
Doesn't look like it will be the UK though, but at least Westminster had the balls to accept the right for the Scottish to speak their mind.
The Scots favourite occupation is whinging and complaining, I went on holiday with a group of friends and one was Scottish. The miserable bastard never shut up moaning the whole time and the flies ate his lily white skin alive hehe,
Sep 16th, 2013 - 03:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0The difference is that the vast majority of the English public couldn't give two stuffs if Scotland became independent, hence the reason it has been put on a plate for them. I personally would urge them to to do it, although we all know they won't, because they would only be able to blame themselves for their problems in the future, not the English, and there is no fun in that.
The problem for Scotland is that the maths just don't add up and they know it.
If Spain doesn't soon embrace the principle of self-determination, they will have another civil war on their hands.
Freedom for Catalonia.
Sep 16th, 2013 - 03:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0And the difference between argieland and Spain is what? Both in economic meltdown. Both colonialist imperialists. Although there is a minor difference there. Once upon a time, Spain actually was a colonialist imperialist power. Until it came up against people much better than it had. Argieland only wants to be. In the case of Catalonia, the principle of self-determination comes FIRST! This has been legally determined. “Territorial integrity” doesn't get close. And Spain is stealing from Catalonia. There's a surprise.
Sep 16th, 2013 - 05:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 4 Don't tell us you feel for the Catalunyans in this :D The principle of slef-determination for the Catalunyans, who are not Spaniards but Catalunyans, but not for the islanders in las Malvinas, who are British and feel British, and want to stay British with an English queen and an English governor. Independence for Flandes, Québec, Canarias, Euskadi, Galiza, Scotland and Wales.
Sep 16th, 2013 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5 What an arse you are. Nothing in your splurge makes sense. It's because you're a brainless turd. Is it possible that, somewhere in the next hundred years, you will learn to use a proper language intelligibly. It's possible that I could make a guess at the “meaning” of your “comment”. The 5 minutes it might take isn't worth expending. See whether you can drag yourself up to a proper language, education and the 21st century. You're still about 150 years short. Want to come back in a hundred years? Compared to my education, you might make infant level!
Sep 16th, 2013 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5 Nostrils
Sep 16th, 2013 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So self determination is a right only for those that answer “correctly”?
Be interesting how you reconcile your conflicting beliefs if Scotland votes to stay within Britain.
Self determination is about determining what you want; not just independence.
Idiot. I'm starting to realise you aren't in Uni but still in high school
@7 You're right, and I don't need to be 18 to participate, no age restrictions on this site. In Argentina we can vote now, thanks to Cristina, so I can participate on this site. That's democracy a la argentina. We make the rules, not you.
Sep 16th, 2013 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know very well what self-determination is about, that's why the islanders don't have that right, no matter if you repeat they have that right a thousand times. Your fascist ways don't work here.
Certainly a hypocrite. But nothing out of the ordinary for your average Argentinian facist.
Sep 17th, 2013 - 08:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0The islanders chose after all to remain Brits. Well, nobody is taking that right away from there.
Sep 17th, 2013 - 08:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now go home.
We are at home in our beautiful, wild, resource rich Falkland Islands and other South Atlantic territories and maritime space.
Sep 17th, 2013 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds like you need some help from the bailiffs, you'll need the Court Order and at least 10,000 heavily armed bailiffs with aircraft and naval support.....And then somehow you need to keep them.
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