Paraguay’s Cartes in Brazil to discuss trade, security, cooperation and Mercosur

Monday, September 30th 2013 - 16:32 UTC

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Paraguay president Horacio Cartes arrived Monday morning to Brazil for a round of talks with President Dilma Rousseff which includes political, economic, energy, trade and security issues, plus the full return of Paraguay to Mercosur, an intricate matter dating back to events of June 2012. Read full article

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Article says...:
“ The full return of Paraguay to Mercosur, an intricate matter dating back to events of June 2012.”

I say...:
“Intricate”?
Let me tell you how “intricate” it will be....
The Paraguayan representative will walk in the room and say...: Buenos dias....
The representatives from the four other member Countries will respond... Buenos dias...

That's how “intricate” it will be.....
Sep 30th, 2013 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Pugol-H
Then why has it not yet happened!

And in fact still shows no signs of going to happen, any time soon.

Yet Paraguay’s dealings with the Pacific Alliance continue apace.

Hmmm.
Sep 30th, 2013 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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CabezaDura
As an Argentine I really do feel sorry for Paraguay, she can dream of the Pacific all she wants but she is destined to eternally negotiate with Argentina and Brazil whether she likes it or not…
Sep 30th, 2013 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Brasileiro
@ Cabeza

Yes! I agree.
Sep 30th, 2013 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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redp0ll
Well they can always turn the lights off in Sao Paulo and BA due to technical problems in the hydro turbines?
Sep 30th, 2013 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Brasileiro
76 new hidros, Idiot “redpoll”
Sep 30th, 2013 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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CabezaDura
Argentina and Brazil can get energy from elsewhere but they in contrast always have to get there ships up and down the Parana...
Sep 30th, 2013 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Brasileiro
Brazil and Argentina are GIANTS. Our South-Americans childres needs our help!
Sep 30th, 2013 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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redp0ll
@6 Well we are used to the brasileiros exaggerating. Its thier nature. I thought it was 36 not 76, most of which are sited on indigenous Amerindian land whose inhabitants will have to be “relocated” Who protects them? FUNAI? Dont make me laugh
Sep 30th, 2013 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Pugol-H
Yes Paraguay is always going to have to deal/contend with Brazil and Argentina, geography dictates it.

However I do think they are going to surprise you on this one.
Sep 30th, 2013 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Brasileiro
Sorry. Now I'm out of time for you.
Sep 30th, 2013 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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GeoffWard2
Let's hope that Cartes and Rousseff agreed to stop their Paraguayan and Brasilian provinces from declaring that they want to secede to become part of Argentina.
(No, I didn't believe it either when one of our S.A. posters declared this to be the case.)
Oct 01st, 2013 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Conqueror
@1 Aaah, Twinky thinks Paraguay is going to “crawl” back. Wonder if the “Paraguayan representative” will walk into the room and say “Adios gilipollas!”
@3 Why? Perhaps Paraguay will remember that argieland and Brazil aren't “friends”. Perhaps Paraguay will remember that argieland and Brazil are shyster thieves. When was the last time that argieland and Brazil increased the prices they pay Paraguay for electricity? Seems Paraguay only consumes 16% of its 50% share of Itaipu production. Brazil gets the rest. And less than 1% of its 50% share of Yacyreta production. Argieland gets the rest. Whatever argieland and Brazil are paying, double it. At least. Minimum US$1 per kilowatt hour. Agreements, treaties? Don't bother, argieland breaks them all the time. Time for some of their own medicine. Don't switch the turbines off. Just route all the power into storage. And I wonder how many places have ALWAYS been destined to negotiate/trade with x other party? Until they decided to negotiate/trade with someone else.
@8 Let me explain. But when a “GIANT” is on its knees, almost anyone can boot its balls. Of course, argieland doesn't have any balls. However, it may also be possible to boot its teeth down its throat. And Brazil IS struggling!
@11 Lost your script?
Oct 01st, 2013 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Pugol-H
@11 Brasileiro
Time will tell on this one, as we say. I do not think we will have to long to wait either.

If Argentina still is a “giant of S America”, then the question is for how much longer.

@13 Conqueror
Unfortunately the only way to “store the power” is in a hydroelectric system, all Paraguay could do is switch off the turbines and let the water run out without doing any work. Use it or lose it.
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GeoffWard2
#14, re #13
Use it or lose it.

Yes, for environmentally clean hydro.
But 'carbon power' remains latent in the ground .. and there is lots:

mineral oil and gas (methane and higher alkanes - ethane, propane, butanes, pentanes, and higher molecular weight hydrocarbons).

This on its own could keep the lights on if Argentina gets its act together.
Oct 01st, 2013 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Pugol-H
@15 GeoffWard2
Probably enough hydrocarbons to keep the lights on for S. America, for a time at least.

Like you said, “if”.

Big “if” that.
Oct 01st, 2013 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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