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Dollar drought forces Argentina to extend whitewash law until December 31

Wednesday, October 2nd 2013 - 07:43 UTC
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Argentina’s President Cristina Fernández has decided to extend the deadline of the whitewash law until the end of December. The recently passed project expired on Monday with 341.5 million dollars entering the country. Read full article

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  • Biguggy

    “The tax amnesty law has accounted only for 8.5% of a 4 billion dollar intake it expected to collect”

    I am surprised it collected that amount!

    Desperate times ahead I fear.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 08:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    That U$ was blackmailed out of the Ks drug dealers.

    Here are my real U$ please give me back a quasi currency and promise not to make it worthless.
    Yeah okay

    Even Rgs are not that dumb.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Desperate Kirchner fails. The “law of diminishing returns” says she won't get another US$341 million. Maybe a total half a billion at best. Not much out of 100 billion. Argieland is DEAD. It's now struggling to keep its mouth above water. Do all you can. Bash it over the head. Research everything you do. The EU has ended aid. Buy nothing from latam. Remember that any money to central, south or latin america could get “diverted”. Write to your government representative and demand that argieland is punished. Argies don't care. Why should we? The best place for argieland is the Stone Age.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zathras

    The Trolls seems to like commenting on the Gaucho Rivero thingy. But they seem so quiet here. an uptake of 8.5 % is bloody awful. You cannot put spin on those numbers. I haven't seen the details of the bill can anyone tell me how it affects Argentinians employed or holidaying abroad?

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura

    It seems that the owners of those 350 million knew what they were doing as the money came in fast… I don’t think this will attract much more dollars in… For laundering there is far more secure specialized places around the world to do this and ways to circle the money around into legitimacy plus retaining its value … And no one knows this better then Cristina herself

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    @5 CD
    What will those people have then done with their Pesos? Immediately bought property or commodities? I presume the kind of people who have millions of US$ are unlikely to hold large amounts of a devaluing currency for long?

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura

    @6 Well in theory CEDINes are dollars not argentine pesos!! The announcement was made to reenergize the construction activity which was skyrocketing in the last decade and in fact it was the real component of the increase in GDP… What we used to do is pick up the harvest, exchange pesos for dollars which the real estate market functions with, and buy flats or property or machinery or invest in the farms, etc.
    So of course when the dollar clamp started in November 2011 activity froze and that meant no more growth… What the farmers are doing now is retaining the soy bean on the silos in their farms to somehow protect themselves against inflation and wait and see what happens after the devaluation post October elections...
    If you personally ask me I think that only people that will ultimately accept CEDINes are the ones that know for sure they can somehow stuck them back the State. So you must do some sort of business with the argentine government and you are sure they will recognize their worth. I just don’t see otherwise why anyone would bring over their US$

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (5) CabezaDura

    You say....:
    “I don’t think this will attract much more dollars in…...... ”

    I say....:
    Uuuuuups.......
    Even Clint Eastwood can miss................. ;-)
    http://www.ieco.clarin.com/economia/Primera-blanqueo-Bulgheroni-US-millones_0_1003699965.html

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura

    Well I guess we can never underestimate how convincing Willy Brown can be ..... “”EL responsable de la prórroga del blanqueo, Guillermo Moreno, llevaba tiempo detrás del dinero de los Bulgheroni. A mediados de septiembre, el secretario de Comercio todavía esperaba obtener 1.000 millones de dólares de los dueños de la petrolera.“”
    Have you got the Armanian crook to put something back in to the YPF purse yet??
    Lo convocaron también para decirle:
    “Con este negocio vos ganaste mucho, ahora tenés que poner para YPF, porque si no te trabamos en…”.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (9) CabezaDura

    Clint Eastwood methods.....
    Do you feel lucky..............., punk?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xjr2hnOHiM

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura

    I “think” hes more into understanding the Pola's methods than the Man with no name...
    http://www.lamarito.com/piradox-500/

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Enijau, pebete....
    500 palos verdes...... cling, caja....

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura

    Yes…… but Think again it’s reducing the whole CEDIN thing to people that to business with the government...And investing in Vaca Muerta is the only thing they have to offer …
    And yet she regrets the doings of a year ago (off the record of course) … YPF turned out to be a far greater problem for her and not much money in it either

    http://www.jorgeasisdigital.com/2013/09/26/apretar-por-ypf/
    Solo para entendidos y para picaros…. ;-)

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (13) CabezaDura

    500 palitos verdes on the first day; botija...
    Let's wait and see a couple of weeks more, shall we..?
    Let's wait and see after the mid term elections, shall we..?
    Besides, your links are becoming more weird and obscure by the moment...
    If I were you........................., I would stick to Good Ol' Clint Eastwood.......

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura

    14) THINK
    T:500 palitos verdes on the first day; botija...
    CD:LOL even Etchegaray admits it was a total failure...
    T:Let's wait and see a couple of weeks more, shall we..?
    CD:For what?
    T:“Let's wait and see after the mid term elections, shall we..? ”
    CD:Exactly, they will cancel the whitewash after the elections because it has been a failure...


    And I warn you if you insist on this one ….You're going to look awfully silly
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks7-A-7Zvak

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Moreno knows where the U$ are stashed. It was either buy the bond or have it confiscated. My guess is he had a couple cars tailing the guy and his family.
    Easy peasy
    filthy thugs

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura

    16)That is just nonsense yankeeboy... There is no question that Moreno's crews are thugs against poor vegetable and fruit merchants in the Mercado Central but one does not simply coerce one of the wealthiest men in Argentina into bringing 500 million US$...It doesn’t work like that, Bulgheroni isn’t going to end empty handed for sure I tell you that. He ultimately is calling the shots as the government is desparate for dollars. He has negotiated similar conditions of that of Chevron to invest in Vaca Muerta
    http://www.urgente24.com/219351-preocupada-por-las-reservas-cristina-le-da-grandes-ventajas-a-los-bulgheroni

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I lived there, the power of the gov't thugs is endless no matter who you are especially if you happen to be of the other party.
    A little nationalization threat works wonders too.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura

    18)Yes, but you just can’t have cars following Bullgheroni’s family as if it was just as easy, they may well have threatened Bridas activities in Argentina and that pushed him to invest yea thats for sure... but that doesn’t mean to say he lives with a red dot in his front head, havent you read the article I posted??…. Did Moreno hijack you and your family to take some dollars away and give you pesos in return??

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (19) CabezaDura…….

    You are wasting your time with turnip Yankeeboy ……
    He is just a paranoid cokehead….
    See the example below….:

    http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/15/argentina-dollar-in-black-market-climbs-to-milestone-8-pesos-and-57-gap-with-the-official-rate#comment228795

    and

    http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/15/argentina-dollar-in-black-market-climbs-to-milestone-8-pesos-and-57-gap-with-the-official-rate#comment228795

    Rest my case……..

    Oct 03rd, 2013 - 02:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    US$341.5 million?

    US$341.5 MILLION!

    FAIL!

    Even Think is embarrassed by this massive failure.

    Oct 03rd, 2013 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    The letters C D E I N spell both
    CEDIN and INDEC - ever wondered why?

    Right now I am in Mendoza visiting friends. Will you believe it, when I exchanged US dollars I got a measly 9.10 pesos per US$.

    Oct 04th, 2013 - 03:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    More lithium please...

    Argentina was barred by a U.S. judge from going forward with a plan by President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner to exchange restructured bonds for debt payable in that country.
    U.S. District Judge Thomas Griesa in Manhattan today said the plan, announced by Kirchner in a national address on Aug. 26, is “an apparent attempt to evade” his orders in a case by billionaire hedge fund manager Paul Singer’s Elliott Management Corp. and other holders of defaulted bonds against Argentina.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-03/argentina-barred-by-u-s-judge-from-evading-bonds-order.html

    Oct 04th, 2013 - 03:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    @ 7 CabezaDura who writes: “I just don’t see otherwise why anyone would bring over their US$”

    Ever heard of insanity? :-)

    Oct 04th, 2013 - 04:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Turnip at (24)

    You say...:
    Ever heard of insanity? :-)

    I say...:
    Jupppppppp........ TUltimate Insanity.... YPF's shares up 123% in the last year....:-)
    http://www.google.com/finance?cid=662043

    Oct 04th, 2013 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Wow, that 1 year return sure beats the 5 yr return of -58%.

    You'd be better off investing in bags of Sugar

    bahahahaha

    Oct 05th, 2013 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    We observe - as usual - that Shrinkhead cannot read his own sources.
    YPF shares:
    21 MAR 2011: 52.31
    04 OCT 2011: 36.61
    21 MAR 2012: 28.63
    04 OCT 2012: 12.60
    21 MAR 2013: 15.30
    04 OCT 2013: 21.88
    Un éxito, up from 52.31 to 21.88. Up!?!
    http://www.google.com/finance?cid=662043

    Oct 05th, 2013 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Turnip at (27)

    We observe - as usual - that Turnips cannot read ANY sources....

    YPF shares:
    21 MAR 2011: 52.31 (Owned by Spanish REPSOL)
    04 OCT 2011: 36.61 (Owned by Spanish REPSOL)
    21 MAR 2012: 28.63 (Owned by Spanish REPSOL)
    16 APR 2012: 16.20 (Re-nationalized)
    04 OCT 2012: 12.60 (Against the world, the odds and the wind)
    16 NOV 2012: 09.57 (Against the world, the odds and the wind)
    21 MAR 2013: 15.30 (Against the world, the odds and the wind)
    04 OCT 2013: 21.88 (Against the world, the odds and the wind)

    Un éxito indeed , up from 9.57 to 21.88 against the world, the odds and the wind....

    I'll certainly enjoy watching this Company's share rise and rise in the coming months and years....

    Galluccio is “The Man” :-)))

    Oct 05th, 2013 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    What do you think will happen when YPF shares are seized by the holdouts?
    That will be fun to watch.

    So I am wondering why you'r not posting the daily peso price any longer?
    The general consensus is that it will be 18-20/1 after the election
    What do you think?

    Bahahaha
    retard

    Oct 05th, 2013 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    YPF? WTF!

    US$341.5 million.

    US$3.65 BILLION short..... but at least YPF's share price is $5.68 higher.

    Not sure what at laugh at more.... the losers running the country or the losers that blindingly support them.

    YFP shares.... I think that it so funny.

    Oct 06th, 2013 - 05:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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