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Rousseff reminds Cartes that Paraguay belongs to Mercosur and is strategic for Brazil

Wednesday, October 2nd 2013 - 08:22 UTC
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Brazilian president Dilma Rousseff received her peer from Paraguay, Horacio Cartes with full head of state honours but at the same time reminded him that Paraguay is a full member of Mercosur and “bilateral relations are in the context of multilateral relations with all countries of the hemisphere”. Read full article

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  • Be serious

    Good to see Kirchners hectoring, arrogant style is resented in South America as much as in Europe and North America.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 08:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    “The good son always returns to her parents home”.

    Long Live to Paraguai!

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @2 “The good son always returns to her parents home”.

    LOL! Is that why so many South American's live off their parents all their lives? A good son will go out into the world and make their own success, visiting home to ensure their parents are well cared for.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ljordao

    @3:

    Brasileiro is so clueless that he cannot understand why his words are insulting to Paraguayans. :)

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    @ 4 ChrisR

    It is impossible to insult yourself. The Brazil belongs to Paraguay!

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    No, Dilma, Mercosur belongs to its members, not the other way around
    ... and she should have remembered this before she voted to remove Paraguay from it.

    ”“bilateral relations are in the context of multilateral relations with all countries of the hemisphere”.
    I can see what she is getting at,
    but Mercosur is (or should be) a trading association - no more and no less.

    So her 'bilateral' relations are (or should be) in the context of ONLY Mercosur member states, and should be multilateral with the countries and trading blocs of the world, not just the hemisphere.

    Time to get a shift on Dilma, and take the lead on the EU issue ... you are the only country that can lead Mercosur by the commercial horns.

    You could start by delegating the Sao Paulo business group to match some Mercosur protocols to those of the EU, identifying where they are severely lacking, and draft some protocols that are appropriate to worldwide trade.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @2 Indeed. And stuff Brazil until it pays a fair price for the electrical power it “steals” from Paraguay. How about US$10 per kilowatt hour?
    @5 Any Paraguyans here? Glad to help you bomb and missile Brazil into remembering its place. Brazilians are such wankers. Forgotten that all mercosur full members are equal? But just take a look. “Little” UK managed to stage a world sporting competition without any problem. “Wonderful” Brazil can't. Exclude Brazil from such “bidding”. It's not up to it. Would you let Somalia bid? Brazil is the same sort of shite!

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    @ 7 Comedian

    You know what does this do? Perhaps to put you in your place!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3ZOdUFsjFY&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lopez

    @7 Brazilians have always been the same, talking to much and taking advantage of others cowardly. They've done it in the triple alliance war against Paraguay (1864- 1870), altogether with Argentina and Uruguay, beacause brazilians have never got the balls to face Paraguayans by themselves. keep talking proudly but never forget how coward you brazilian faggots are. This is no the first time you selfish cowards hide behind Argentinians and Uruguayans against a poor, small but proud country as Paraguay!

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Now began the revolution of communications, including internet. Brazil is not silly. We execute our projects with patience and determination.

    Get Out Spies!

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304906704579110693710265598.html#articleTabs%3Darticle

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BOTINHO

    Despite all the psychological bribery and intimidation, I suspect Paraguai will not be returning to Mercosul.

    The rush to judgment to punish Paragai by suspending them as a Mercosul member over Lugo, and simultaneously sneaking Venezuela in at the same time, appears to have been clearly ill advised, poorly constructed, and a mistake. Paraguai is owed, an deserves an apology.

    If you mistreat a member of your family unfairly, by kicking them below the belt as a punishment, they have little reason then to get back in line when you snap your fingers.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    There was a time when the UK produced its own ballistic delivery vehicles in its own space programme, Brasileiro, but the cost became too much so the projects were cancelled forever.

    Brasil may be the inheritor of the UK's earlier aspiration ... as long as it does not become the Robin Hood socialist state that became the fate of the UK. Once you go a way down this road it becomes impossible to row back and still win office, and the costs of a dependent society are too much to both bear and develop.
    So, Conq., all that can be looked forward to is regression, depression and, ultimately - self-delusion.
    No way to run a business.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Botinho, have you talked to BOTINHO today? The English are very stupid! because this are decadent.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    13 Brasileiro

    You are the “stupid one” as you keeping name calling.

    I have told you before I do NOT use more than the ChrisR tag, it is the same as lying or deceit which I do not do or condone.

    Please stop it.

    Calling the English stupid and decadent brings you down to the level of the stupidest of the argies. Now are you happy?

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @13
    ENGLISH is the mostly spoken language and you still can't speak it , says so much about your country.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    @ 15

    I do not need to speak English, I need to understand.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg1g4Y2BKXs&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lopez

    It is significant that Cartes travelled first to Chile, a member of the Pacific Alliance than to the other Mercosur members. Returning to Mercosur isn't even a priority for Paraguay.
    http://en.mercopress.com/2013/09/16/cartes-on-a-two-day-visit-to-pacific-alliance-member-chile-to-promote-trade-and-investments

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    @ 17 Francisco Solano Lopez

    Please, you could write two sentences in “Guarani”? The main language spoken in Paraguay.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lopez

    @18 Brasileiro
    We are proud of our second language indeed. Shame on you and your lack knowledge and appreciation for culture. Just keep writing bullshit, no one actually cares.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    @ ChrisR

    It's easy to win against England. Almost no glory.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAqPBhpoo2k&list=LLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A&feature=mh_lolz

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (17) lopez

    You say...:
    “It is significant that Cartes travelled first to Chile, a member of the Pacific Alliance than to the other Mercosur members. Returning to Mercosur isn't even a priority for Paraguay.”

    I say...:
    “It is significant that Cartes travelled first to ARGENTINA, a member of MERCOSUR and the Country where 3.5 million Paraguayans have chosen to live in.......
    . Returning to Mercosur is THE priority for Paraguay.”
    http://en.mercopress.com/2013/09/10/paraguayan-president-cartes-visits-cristina-fernandez-in-buenos-aires.

    Saludos Cordiales
    El Think
    Curepa del Chubut, Patagonia Argentina.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Thanks Mister Think.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    20 Brasileiro

    Did you think the kid was clever?

    He didn't make a flourescent lamp though did he.

    Oh dear, is this the best you can do? Then brazil really is doomed.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Just does not look like Paraguay is going back to Murcosur “full time” any time soon.

    Ms Rousseff speaks of the “power and influence of a superstate”, power to influence what is somewhat unclear.

    Mr Cartes talks of “battling poverty”, very laudable of course.

    Not the same hymn sheet though.

    @ 18 Brasileiro
    So, during the Paraguayan war did you only eradicate Spanish speakers?

    @ 21 Think
    Should not the address read:

    The Stench Esq.
    Campo del Squatters.
    Argy Occupied Patagonia.
    Creole, Republic Of.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Give thanks to Spanish speakers. If Brazilians were in 1982, there would be no more English speakers.

    It's all a matter of perspective. And brutality.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @ 25 Brasileiro
    Your war canoes would have proved somewhat less effective than the Argy Navy, at least they were not sunk by the weather.

    Brutality is what you did, and continue to do, to your indigenous population.
    How much Guarani, or any other native S American language can you speak?

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    We get along very well. More and more Brazilians are. Lacks a bit of the Amazônia, but we are doing our part.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Brasilian portuguese has absorbed and adapted many, many words of Tupi-Guarani; some local dialects more than other.
    Asking younger people, I find they frequently do not identify specific words as being of indigenous origin - it's just 'what we speak'. The lexicography of modern day Brasilian is really fascinating.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Good, Geoff. Thanks!

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @27 Brasileiro
    “Lacks a bit of the Amazônia”, really.

    Did you ever ask the Amazonians if they wanted to be assimilated into the collective?

    Sounds like a queue for intervention!!!!

    @28 GeoffWard2
    “Brazilian” (interesting choice of word) will be of many roots, as is English, or any other language you care to name.

    With respect, my question here was how much did “Brasileiro”, the alleged Brazilian, know about (any) indigenous roots.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cornelius

    Brazil will never amount to anything as long they have the communist party in charge.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    @ 30

    No Mister Pugol-H, I do not understand any other language. Only portuguese.

    Oct 03rd, 2013 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @12 Are you trying to make some sort of relevant point?
    @13 Please note that the correct word is “degenerate”. The correct format is “because I am a degenerate”.
    @16 Well, you have a number of “choices”. Learn to use an online translator properly. Important method is to translate from one language to the other, then translate back, then re-translate. Next option is to learn to use a computer with intelligence. Not “it's” intelligence. Yours. This doesn't work if you have no intelligence. Finally, learn to speak and understand the most prevalent language in the world. Contact your government for the issue of another braincell. You don't have a great chance. Those who gibber “spanish” are pretty disadvantaged. And those that gibber “portuguese”? Aliens!
    @21 You're missing the point. When you HAVE to make a round of contacts, you go to the shit place FIRST. Then you can hope to scrape the SHIT off elsewhere before returning “home”. Argieland is, of course, the home of SHIT. Chubut is ONE of the “homes” of argie genocide. Anyone in Chubut is a genocidal murderer walking over the blood and bones of the owners of the land. Chubutense are thieving, murdering genocides.
    @22 Crap speaks to shit.
    @25 If “Brazilians were in 1982, there would be no more Brazilians” Best reason I can think of to launch a nuclear strike. Remember that Prime Minister Thatcher was prepared to launch a strike on argieland alone. And who would miss Brazil?
    @27 Available EVIDENCE says argieland is dragging Brazil into oblivion. No real problem. Let the shit kill each other.
    @32 Thicko! But, realistically, Paraguay is/was a member of mercosur. It was disenfranchised by a couple of dictatorships and a wimp. Its “strategic” importance to brazil should be of no interest to Paraguay. Best thing to do, in analogous terms, is to screw Brazil to a handy wall and then cut its balls off. Then the sledgehammer. Smash 'em flat.

    Oct 03rd, 2013 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Cornelius #31
    The communist party put forward a candidate for Presidential office and were eliminated in the first round. Not a runner.
    They are allied to PT etc. within the coalition but only hold a small percentage of seats in Chamber of Deputies (15/513) and in the Senate (2/81). But they do hold a lot of power in the unions and as local mayors.
    .....
    Pugol/Bras
    I used the language title 'Brasilian' because, whilst in Portugal last week, I realised how much Tupi idiom etc has split the language from its parent tongue.

    Oct 03rd, 2013 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    @ 34 Geoff,

    We (CPLP) try to deploy a new orthographic agreement, perhaps better Brazil constitute their own language. What do you think?

    Oct 03rd, 2013 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 34 GeoffWard2

    Just the same as the language spoken in Uruguay is no longer Castilian and is badly fractured between the various areas of the country.

    V is spoken as a B, l and ll as shh and the individual dialects are only used for a few kilometres before it changes once more. Even my Spanish teacher is frustrated by the illiteracy among the “Socially Included” so greatly thought of by “The Dear Leader” and his bitch, TMBOA.

    Oct 03rd, 2013 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Hello ChrisR. How are you in this morning? Oh, nice nickname!

    Oct 03rd, 2013 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Cartes is something new in South America and it shows.

    He listens to every other head of state rant and rail and demand and instruct; and then he politely thanks them, ignores them and continues to chart his own path.

    Brazil and Argentina think that Paraguay belongs to Mercosur and hence to them. They are failing to realise that Paraguay belongs to the Paraguayans. And they elected Cartes.

    And Cartes is finally showing the maturity of a leader that knows how to play politics and be diplomatic. Lessons that Maduro and CFK could learn and even Dilma by the sounds of it.

    So far Cartes hasn't done what many predicted. It will be interesting to see what he does next. Even Dilma is waiting to know.

    Oct 03rd, 2013 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #20
    It's easy to win against England. Almost no glory.
    A child making a lava lamp ????????? Explain this please
    #8
    You know what does this do? Perhaps to put you in your place!

    A made up video of a proposed hypersonic scramjet. When exactly will Brasil have this flying ? 2100 ?
    The USA, Russia and the UK have not produced anything more than prototype designs although the USA is testing some flying models.
    The UK has made a breakthrough in engine technology which could lead to commercial viability of this project.
    See the attached reference below.
    ://www.engineering.com/DesignerEdge/DesignerEdgeArticles/ArticleID/6023/UK-Government-Invests-60M-in-Spaceplane-Engine.aspx

    Brasil has produced exactly what apart from a video ?
    Your country has a long long way to go to catch up with scientific research in the UK.

    Oct 05th, 2013 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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