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Bye, bye Mercosur: Brazil advances on its own in trade agreement with EU
Mercosur has many internal problems and therefore it is much easier to work with Brazil, said European Commission Vice-President for Industry and Entrepreneurship Antonio Tajani who spent this week two days of negotiations with top officials in Brasilia. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIf the EU develops a FTZ with the US, and then develops a FTZ with Brasil,
Oct 13th, 2013 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0does that mean that there will be a de facto FTZ between the US and Brasil?
.. or will all this trade have to go via the EU to avoid the 60% tariff, etc.?
@1 Wrong term. A free trade zone only exists around national borders. Free trade zones used to be known as free ports. A free trade agreement is quite different. There will be no de facto FTA between the U.S. and Brazil. There would have to be a tripartite treaty signed by the E.U., the U.S. and Brazil!
Oct 13th, 2013 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The main trouble with Argentina and Venezuela is trust. An agreement made with them worth less than the paper used to write it down, volatile and extremely unreliable both governments are not the best partners.
Oct 13th, 2013 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“while Argentina sort things out”.
Oct 13th, 2013 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sort things out? We sorted them out long ago. It goes like this: “Never trust a Euro or a Brit”.
No deal. Ever. Go away.
@4 whats up Toby truth hurt?
Oct 13th, 2013 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You may be right Conq. about US/BRA,, but
Oct 13th, 2013 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'A free trade zone (FTZ) or export processing zone (EPZ), also called foreign-trade zone, formerly free port, is an area within which goods may be landed, handled, manufactured or reconfigured, and reexported without the intervention of the customs authorities. Only when the goods are moved to consumers within the country in which the zone is located do they become subject to the prevailing customs duties. Free-trade zones are organized around major seaports, international airports, and national frontiers—areas with many geographic advantages for trade. It is a region where a group of countries has agreed to reduce or eliminate trade barriers.'
If the Brazilians were serious about Mercosur they wouldn’t have allowed Venezuela in last year. It’s become one of the many meaningless LATAM clubs that only have a political show off agenda like CELAC, UNASUR, ALBA and now Mercosur, which had a clear purpose of creating a free trade bloc in South America 20 years ago by the same “liberal presidents” the leaders of today’s Mercosur despise so much and rant against always.
Oct 13th, 2013 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now to be honest Brazil seems to be the case of do what I say and talk about, but don’t do what I do…..
IMF ......'ve heard that name somewhere .... I know, is a subdivision of NSA, is not it?
Oct 13th, 2013 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“But Mercosur has internal problems, and so then we can’t stop talking to Brazil which is a super important country, which grows, speaks European languages and for us to work with them is far much easier”, admitted Tajani.”
Oct 13th, 2013 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brazil uses Portuguese, has anyone told Tajani what languages all the other countries in SA use, or is Spain no longer in the EU?
The Pacific Alliance is where Uruguay needs to be and the sooner the better.
@ 9 ChrisR
Oct 13th, 2013 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Goofball, Uruguai go to where we say go for!
#5 Hardly....truth is truth. It's the reality that you sock puppets cannot handle. The reality is the USA, Europe and all you Anglo puppets are in a rowboat without oars.
Oct 13th, 2013 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0NEVER....get it? NEVER!!!
Better to be in a rowboat without oars than a sinking ship eh Toby?
Oct 13th, 2013 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's get these guys pale! Senta a Pua!
Oct 13th, 2013 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=channel%3A5240d6ab-0-2d9f-8df2-89e013a2908&feature=iv&src_vid=2N6QX4GWqoI&v=Hfj9AjQ8YcI
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Oct 13th, 2013 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0US Navy's Best kept secret... Revealed on Youtube ;-)
Question now is what Uruguay, and possibly even Paraguay, are going to do about a trade agreement with the EU.
Oct 13th, 2013 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Either way, just Brazil signing a deal on its own, ends any pretence of Murcosur being a trade organisation.
What relevance Murcosur has from here on in remains to be seen, I suspect not much if any.
@ 13 Brasileiro
Oct 13th, 2013 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0From “Goofball”.
Well, that's 6 min 34 sec of my life I won't get back.
You cannot think that this rubbish is at all helpful to project your military in the real world.
Talking of real world, please tell me ONE, military war in the last 30 years your forces have been in that is comparable with the Gulf wars, Afghanistan, etc. Just ONE will do.
Please don’t include peacekeeping “forces”.
BTW, WTF are surface to surface rocket launchers doing on a plain when the charade was supposed to be in the Amazon on a river FFS?
And if the lame-brains who did this video think the US forces are so stupid to go upstream in boats then they need a quick kick in the balls to wake them up.
Remember, Brazil is becoming the country with more oil than any other AND the US are quite capable of taking it all for themselves and their friends! Ha, ha, ha.
Argentina never respected Mercosl agreements, always acted as if it was a Mercosul member but its immediate interests prevailed. Argentina and Brazilian corrupt governments included Venezuela in a shameful maneuver suspending Paragay who now refuses to return to the discredited block. Venezela is known to be a joke. There is one solution to the contries that now compose Mercosul: go look for a serious partner, where commerce comes before politics before this boat sinks altogether. The corrupt Brazilian government is now rushing to find a good partner before a huge crises arrives, making the North Continent crisis look like paradise compared to what can happen in the “giant that never woke up”.
Oct 13th, 2013 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 16 ChrisR
Oct 13th, 2013 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're being too picky. For God's sake, accept defeat!
The US Navy knows all about fighting from boats in a jungle region.
Oct 13th, 2013 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They wrote the book on it.
They got their skills the long, hard, real way, in a place called the Mekong Delta!
Not by acting it out for a YouTube vid!
@19
Oct 13th, 2013 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The letters of his books are shuffled. Worthless!
@20 Brasi
Oct 13th, 2013 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You were asked a question in #16.
What war experience does the Brazilian military have?
While Brasil has been a better partner than Argentina for Uruguay, they still lack commitment to a free trade zone project. They are happy to ignore agreements if it fits them, from time to time.
Oct 13th, 2013 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They role on the Mercosur was not similar than Germany´s role on the making of the European Union. Perhaps they behave more likely to Britain (I am in, I am out, maybe...). They are lacking continental leadership and, sometimes, they seems to have lost their bearing too. A pity for no free trade zone may really exist on South America without them.
Sure, I hope the Pacific Alliance will became a success, but I have seen several organizations show promise and later on became a failure.
“”“”Better to be in a rowboat without oars than a sinking ship eh Toby?“”“”
Oct 13th, 2013 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pwned ;-0
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Oct 13th, 2013 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice one A_V0ice
Next time you answer someones post.... make sure you are in the right glove....
#4 The Truth PaTroll
Oct 14th, 2013 - 03:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0I absolutely agree. Starve to death in peace and quiet, don't bother us humans.
@11
Oct 14th, 2013 - 03:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0What's with “A-Voice” answering for “Truth Patrol” now?????
Forget to switch User Account again?
@ It looks that way. School boy error tut tut!
Oct 14th, 2013 - 06:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lol
Mercosur is no different than the EU it has members that want to move faster than other members and members that want to be more involved than other members.. it is just in the EU we can talk and find the best way forwards instead of trying to get on up on the other it probably all comes about by us trying to keep peace with in Europe as we know what happens if you do not we found out twice in the last century.
Oct 14th, 2013 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 026/27
Oct 14th, 2013 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you two were any slower you would be going backwards........
......“What's with “A-Voice” answering for “Truth Patrol” now?????”
...don't you mean what's with A_V0ice....not A_Voice......Doh!
.....now read the logical inference @24....again.....and do try to keep up...
I (and I guess many others) have been predicting this for some years, and it is hastened along by the Argentine theft of Repsol and the attack on Lan recently, plus the advent of Venezuela to Mercosur which makes any agreement with the EU so much more difficult. Very happy to see Brazil go it alone and the bottom fall out of Mercosur, which will become another useless empty vessel. Hope our friends in Uruguay can tag along with Brazil.
Oct 14th, 2013 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Didn't I say this would happen last year?
Oct 14th, 2013 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes yes I did
Stupid Think Hepatia Toby and all the other idiots said it would never happen. And they were wrong again.
It had to happen. Mercosul never existed or at leat was never good for nothing other than feeding some corrupt politicians with luxury foods and expensive tourism trips abroad.
Oct 14th, 2013 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@24
Oct 14th, 2013 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Next time you answer someones post”
Where's the grammar policeman when you need him?
Come now my troupe of little marionettes, get the game together or I will put you back in the drawer with Guzz and you know that is a dirty, damp, unpleasant place.
PS:
I am Castor Troy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRspGG9mDsQ
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Oct 14th, 2013 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0.....Apostrophe slip
....better than an identity slip......;-)))))
.....Where's the grammar policeman when you need him?
.....Where are the grammar police when you need them?
.....or is it men only?
@18 Be sensible. Get back on your mega butt plug and enjoy!
Oct 14th, 2013 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@29 You are, without doubt, a Putrid Rabid Anal Toad. Please piss OFF!
@33 Actually, you are an incredible TiT. Incidentally, you wouldn't know “truth” if it stepped and drop-kicked your balls. If you have any!
@34 Do you understand that you're backward? Shit dip!
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Oct 14th, 2013 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see you are back to the anal stuff again....never leaves your thoughts for long...
do yourself a favour, be yourself instead of fantasising....you know you want to..
Brasil foreign trade has soaring volume with China&AsiaPasific not with Europe.
Oct 14th, 2013 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#37. Geo, that's just the point.
Oct 14th, 2013 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brasil needs a diversified group of strong trading partners.
Stability and strength come from diversity and balance.
Brasil needs to build a 'senior' balance of trade flows by trade agreements with the US, the EU and China.
[Relying on the flow of shoes to Argentina is crazy trading tactics when at any moment Argentina may have to switch to shoe imports from China as a trade offset.]
Smart move the brazilian one. In one hand they shake off the argentinian humpback and in the other try to sort out the near almost secure recession that will face soon.
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