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Barroso optimistic about coming 'events' in EU/Mercosur trade negotiations
The president of the European Commission, Jose Manuel Barroso anticipated that 'soon' there will be 'events' referred to the EU/Mercosur cooperation and trade agreement and underlined that Brazil is most interested in making possible such an accord. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesBarroso is optimistic?
Oct 21st, 2013 - 09:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0I would have chosen the word 'deluded' actually.
No agreement will be reached with EU by now, keep optimistic Barroso...
Oct 21st, 2013 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Watch for a sharp drop in Brazil's exports to EU in 2nd quarter 2014.
Oct 21st, 2013 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Holding onto a the rotting corpse of MercoSur and punishing their own people for an idealism.
Not a smart people but are they as dumb as Rgs
hmmm
time will tell
Goodbye Paurusil, if you want to sign free trade with those losers in the north, go hang yourselves.
Oct 21st, 2013 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina knows those Euro-North Ams too well, they produce shit products and on top of it subsidize them.
@4
Oct 21st, 2013 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And Argenrtina sells what exactly? Nothing of any use.
Another unreconstructed commie, he has more front than Brighton.
Oct 21st, 2013 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Next year will tell who is right about the Euro, so let's wait and see after the EU elections.
4TITnostril
Oct 21st, 2013 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina knows those Euro-North Ams too well, they produce shit products and on top of it subsidize them.”
Actually, the products are top quality compared to China or many other places. As to price, if it's lower than your domestic products, it's more likely related to your Industrial Productivity.
To give you credit Nostril, I think you are correct, Argentina cannot compete and needs the protectionism of Mercosur. They would need that to stop the EU putting Domestic companies out if business.
However, Brazil seems confident that it CAN compete, and welcomes the access to new markets for its goods.
They won't let you hold them back.
Already, two new premium car plants in Brazil, Mercedes and Landrover!!
Close the shutters and bolt the door, Nostril.
Just for the sake of your argument, TTT #4, stop taking US/EU pharmaceuticals ... you know they couldn't possibly work as well as the South American products.
Oct 21st, 2013 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 3 yankeeboy
Oct 21st, 2013 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0May not happen, I wouldn’t mind betting Brazil signs some sort of agreement with the EU well before then.
Be it Brazil/EU or some version of a 2 speed murcosur/EU.
@ 4 The Truth PaTroll
And still enjoy a much higher standard of living than SA, ummm.
Seems to me the “Euro-North Ams”, have got the right idea.
What price pious poverty?
@ 8 GeoffWard2
I am told that the non-prescription meds are better!
So as expected in your short-sighted attempts to offend me, you have made my point for me.
Oct 21st, 2013 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If we produce nothing, if we can't competed against Europe/North Am in quality, or against China/Brazil/Mexico in wages... then WHY WOULD WE SIGN FREE TRADES WITH ANY OF YOU????
Thank you for pointing the obvious, none of you give a rats' ass about Argentina, which is fair enough. But I do. Free trade would mean the end of the country, period.
10nostril
Oct 21st, 2013 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Thank you for pointing the obvious, ...Free trade would mean the end of the country, period.”
You are 100% correct, Nostril.
Not only are your products inferior and unable to compete now, getting free trade will mean they can no longer remain backwards industrially. Argentina's people will have access to affordable superior products from abroad, and domestic producers and manufactures will fail.
It is inevitable.
Best to protect your industries and go it alone.
Meanwhile...
Brazil will continue on to greater prosperity, and laugh at their poor cousins.
Uruguay will stop appeasing you, lose respect for you, and surge ahead also.
@ 10 The Truth PaTroll
Oct 21st, 2013 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don’t worry, you soon will be able to compete with China/Brazil/Mexico in wages, once converted into USD.
“Argentina's people will have access to affordable superior products from abroad”
Oct 21st, 2013 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tens of millions of people who are unemployed because all the local factories closed, because all the farms shut down due to foreign subsidies, and because all the social programs are halted from lack of funds, once the free trade into Argentina were established, cannot buy “affordable superior products from abroad”.
13 Nostrils
Oct 21st, 2013 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Tens of millions of people who are unemployed because all the local factories closed, because all the farms shut down due to foreign subsidies, and because all the social programs are halted from lack of funds, once the free trade into Argentina were established, cannot buy “affordable superior products from abroad”.”
Yup, you are right - nobody will be buying anything, except the remaining wealthy and politicians and their friends with government jobs ( those that still exist), and they won't be buying domestic, just high end EU goods, or perhaps a high-tariff Mercedes, now manufactured in Brazil, since the older inefficient Argentine plant shut down.
You could keep people working with subsistence wages, like in Bangladesh or China, though.
I really think you are stuck. Your worker productivity is low, you have failing infrastructure, inferior products, no work ethic - how can you survive in a Free Market?
If you go it alone, you will have no competition for your products, no matter what the price or quality. That's what you want.
You don't have to worry about other markets either, as Brazil will buy from EU and US.
You are happy, Brazil is happy, Europe is happy, right??
And thus I have proven you and none of the others here really are here to provide solutions, just to badmouth, belittle, and deprecate.
Oct 21st, 2013 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Case shut, locked, and melted.
SA is doing better than ever and Europe is in their deepest crisis in quite a few decades, and still this people try to make us believe it's us who need them...
Oct 21st, 2013 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look, Brazil will not sign an FTA with Europe should the rest of Mercosur not agree. The talk is about doing it at different speeds, but Whole of Mercosur still has to agree with the FTA.
And that will not happen until EU drops
1) Market access restrictions
2) Export subsidies
3) Domestic subsidies
And you lot can cry as much you want and need...
@2 Too many words. Stick with “No agreement will be reached with EU”. Or are you offereing a 100% 5-year, no questions asked, money-back guarantee? Plus 100% compensation. This may be important. I wouldn't buy a single thing originating in argieland, brazil, paraguay, uruguay or venezuela, OR bolivia, without such a guarantee. With payment in sterling or US dollars.
Oct 21st, 2013 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@4 Nothing in argieland worth having. Hang on a minute, yes there is. We want a number of bodies. That's corpses, you understand. Freshly dead and in one piece. Because we want to hack bits off ourselves. Although we might accept live bodies as long as you have no objections to them being publicly displayed, naked, in our zoos and being starved to death. Before being dismembered. Who do we want? Well, CFK for a start. Then Maximo, tinboy, Puricelli, Lorenzino, Moreno. We may think of some more later.
@10 Quite right. You don't understand “free trade”. Perhaps you should look it up and consider the implications. Let's say you wanted to buy a navy. Since you don't have one. We'd sell you one. We wouldn't tell you about the 4 tons of remote-activated C4 obviously. Just think. Brand-new, and floating, destroyers, frigates, corvettes, submarines. No impediments. Except you have to pay for them.
@13 I agree it's a problem. Argies would have to learn to WORK. But there are solutions. All argies would have to WORK. No factories polluting the atmosphere as you can import everything. Argies will be employed carrying goods from the point of import to stores. By hand, on their backs, towing carts.
@15 You're ahead of us. We weren't planning on you “melting” until the 1 million or so proper “Argentines” are provided for. If you're lucky they may have hobbies. They may want to harness you up to their ploughs. Dig, or clean, their sewers. There could be chariot races, with you in the place of the horses. Road, train and air crash dummies.
@16 Why is Brazil so desperate? FULL duty rates then!
@Troy Tempest
Oct 22nd, 2013 - 06:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina's people will have access to affordable superior products from abroad”
Do you mean like houses made from containers and cars with cheap plastic parts from India and China?
TT tell us please what kind of superior and affordable products you can sell to Argentina because last time I was in England all come from China, India, Brazil, Indonesia, etc. even the souvenirs toys that you sell to tourist were made in China.
Dany/TTT/etc
Oct 22nd, 2013 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0The UK exports many manufactured products from the UK directly;
it produces many more in eg China and exports from there;
it exports many non-manufactured 'products', many intellectual, many of which could aid Argentina's development if she were willing to buy in.
Wiki-list:
Medicaments
Petroleum oils
Motor vehicles
Engines and motors
Aircraft and associated equipment
Spacecraft and associated equipment (Satellites included)
Telecommunications equipment
Organo-inorganic compounds, heterocyclic compounds, nucleic acids
Lab equipment (instruments and apparatus)
Alcoholic beverages
Pearls, precious, semi-precious stones
Internal combustion piston engines and equipment
Medicinal and pharmaceutical products
etc.
...and 18yr old Talisker Scotch, the merits of which your Patagonian brother-in-arms will surely appreciate.
Oct 22nd, 2013 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Geoff
Oct 22nd, 2013 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0The UK only exports jobs.
The Companies producing overseas may be British owned, but only privately.
No revenue will ever go to Britain, as the plan with the overseas move was just to avoid taxes for a cheaper production.
The difference lays in that before, the companies offered Britain a deal, offering jobs for profit.
Now the profit is reduced and hence they choose to move, taking the jobs with them.
I just can't see how you see this as a positive...
Toby has obviously never studied the recent history of Arg ( 50-80) where they had the exact same policies that the Ks have implemented. The policies failed miserably then as they are doing now.
Oct 22nd, 2013 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Rgs are lazy, stupid and corrupt. They can never have a successful economy until people honestly work and are educated to international standards. I don't see that happening in any of our lifetimes.
...said the yanqui while waiting for his debt roof to be raised so he can pay his debts...
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