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Paraguayan president ratifies full political support for Mercosur

Saturday, October 26th 2013 - 00:25 UTC
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President Horacio Cartes although admitting he is heart and mind committed to Mercosur, Paraguay's full return to Mercosur is in the hands of diplomacy since as head of state he must abide strictly by the rule of the law. Read full article

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  • Brasileiro

    Everything as it should be.

    Oct 26th, 2013 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redp0ll

    Is it Brasileiro? Expound please

    Oct 26th, 2013 - 03:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Agreed!

    Everything is as it should be. Mercosur is moribund and as an actual institution does nothing to better the lives of its member state's citizens nor advance itself on the world stage.

    In 1985 when PICE (the precursor) was first founded, China's GDP was 7% of the US (9th in the world), the EU didn't exist but the EEC had 10 members, the Soviet Union struck fear into the hearts of many as it strutted the world stage as a super power and the UN had 159 members.

    In 1991 when Mercosur was founded, China was still unremarkable with the world's 9th largest GDP, the EEC had 12 members and had absorbed East Germany and was close to founding the EU, the USSR was disintegrating and on its last legs and the UN had 166 members.

    Now its 2013, China's GDP is 52% of the US's and 2nd largest economy, the EU has 27 members and its own currency, the USSHuh? and the UN has 193 members.

    And what has Mercosur done in 28 years?

    “Everything as it should be”
    Everything as it has been, you mean.

    No wonder the Pacific Alliance causes so many waves.

    Oct 26th, 2013 - 04:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    This is called “paving the way”, Anglolatino.

    Want to say it together?

    Welcome back, Paraguay.

    ;)

    Oct 26th, 2013 - 05:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Yes the Pacific Alliance is indeed paving the way.

    I gather that's what you meant because what exactly has Mercosur paved the way for? Who is emulating it? What are the concrete benefits that exist SOLELY because of Mercosur?

    Oct 26th, 2013 - 06:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    You forgot “Welcome back, Paraguay.”

    Why always so butthurt?

    Another crazy Friday?

    Oct 26th, 2013 - 07:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Back?

    Reread the article:

    “Paraguay's full return to Mercosur is in the hands of diplomacy since as head of state he must abide strictly by the rule of the law”

    Paraguay still does not see itself as having 'returned' to Mercosur.

    It may indeed do so if that is what Paraguay sees as best for itself. However that doesn't change the fact that Mercosur, in growth and integration, is positively sluggish compared to the Pacific Alliance.

    The impotence of Mercosur doesn't “butthurt” anyone.

    Oct 26th, 2013 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    “Paraguay's full return to Mercosur is in the hands of diplomacy since as head of state he must abide strictly by the rule of the law”

    Well, that's the “paving the way” part.

    Or else, why don't they join PA?

    I know why.

    You? You are learning, soon you know why too...

    ;)

    Oct 26th, 2013 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    If Paraguay goes back into little mercosur, it will have failed in its stated objectives. Demanding compliance with the rule of law. respect for international law. Compliance by little mercosur with its own charter. This will be unfortunate for Paraguay as it will only show that, while it might talk the talk, it can't walk the walk. It will also have negative effects for little mercosur. Paraguay has identified its “problems”. Basically, it's an illegitimate organisation. With that as a basis, I look forward to seeing the European Commission progressing with its “trade negotiations” only to have the Council of the European Union reject any “agreement”. Even under “qualified majority” voting, there are enough members to stop any agreement with little mercosur stone dead!

    Oct 26th, 2013 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    conq...

    Europe is literally dying for new markets while little Uruguay is selling meat to China...

    Do the math...

    Oct 26th, 2013 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Oh so now they're not back!

    So hard to keep track.

    Oct 26th, 2013 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Angloæatino

    They've been in Mercosur all the time.
    Cartés needed some quality time in the spotlights, that's all.

    I understand you think it's hard to keep track, but in order to save face, just observe and keep highlighting the achievements of the PA.

    We like that, having you lot praising SA, regardless of the nation you choose to praise.

    Especially Brits.

    Like you.

    ;)

    Oct 26th, 2013 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Little Uruguay selling meat to china.

    True and so is every other producing country on this planet or have I missed something?

    Oct 26th, 2013 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @10 Uruguay is a meaningless nonentity following a wimp faggot. As you know. You hang on to argieland's coat-tails and hope. But argieland isn't so much “full of shit” as it is “shit”. Recent articles suggested that Uruguay had found some balls. And you represent what percentage? 5? 10? 15? The “soon to be exterminated”? How I hope that Uruguay has the guts to video the extermination of assholes like you!
    @12 Really? How come Paraguay didn't get to vote on the “incorporation” of Venezuela? Anything in the mercosur “charter” about suspension? Anything in the charter about a unanimous vote except............? No-one should recognise “little, fascist, totalitarian, dictatorial, illegitimate” mercosur. Let's bomb it!

    Oct 26th, 2013 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @12 Stevie
    How long do you expect it will take “foreign ministers to untangle” this particular tangle?

    Only when they do, can you say that “the way has been paved” for Paraguay to return, and not before.

    There is nothing to indicate this is going to be resolved anytime soon, not so long as Paraguay continue to insist on “the rule of law”, meaning Venezuela must leave, or Paraguay agree to them being in.

    Neither looks very likely anytime soon.

    Oct 26th, 2013 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Pugol
    Paraguay has already accepted Venezuela into Mercosur. You just fail to appreciate it...

    Oct 26th, 2013 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @16 Stevie
    “Once Mercosur ignored suspended Paraguay and incorporated Venezuela the Paraguayan Senate voted overwhelmingly against such incorporation”.

    “The stumbling blocks are basically the negative vote of the Paraguayan Senate, and Mercosur decision to incorporate Venezuela taking advantage of Paraguay's suspension”.

    All you have to do is read the article.

    Oct 26th, 2013 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    And all you have to do is open your eyes and watch...

    Oct 26th, 2013 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @18 Stevie
    You can see that Paraguay are not back in Murcosur, in your sleep.

    Oct 26th, 2013 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Indeed Pugol, but as soon as I wake up, the reality is different.
    Of course the audience has to be entertained, but in the end we all know who belongs where. Don't worry, mate. We don't.

    ;)

    Oct 26th, 2013 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @20 Stevie
    First you have to wake up, a good start!

    Then there is reality, in my (limited) experience, this is often a question of perspective, in your case (in my opinion) strongly distorted by your political ideology. Little or no reality involved.

    As for “who belongs where”, well, an interesting concept that could be debated at great length, but suffice to say for our purposes here that, we have as much right to be in the s. Atlantic/Antarctic as you do in S. America.

    And don’t worry mate, we don’t worry, you know.

    Oct 26th, 2013 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    No European country has the right to be in Antarctica. Antarctica is the last frontier on planet Earth. Continuation of South America.

    I am not concerned with Paraguay. He is ours. I'm worried about our progress in South America We need to Ecuador, Bolivia and Peru, and fast!

    Our state of Mato Grosso is engaged in this work.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTo_E77BT-M&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A

    Oct 27th, 2013 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @22 Brasileiro
    Antarctica is certainly not a “continuation of S. America”, it’s a completely different continent with another tectonic plate in between.

    You have a much stronger argument for claiming N. America, on that basis, at least your connected.

    The British have every right to occupy their territory in Antarctica, it’s been British since long before the Creole Republics conquered their way down Patagonia/Tierra del Fuego, to become our neighbours in that part of the world.

    Europeans have as much right to be there as you have to be in S. America, more when you consider that there is no indigenous population in Antarctica, and you are already an implanted population in S. America.

    What right do you have to now transplant yourselves to longstanding British territory?

    Oct 27th, 2013 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Brasileiro

    Wake up to reality mate. Antarctica is not yours nor South America's. Indeed the largest part of Antarctica is AUSTRALIAN ANTARCTIC TERRITORY.

    All 5.9 million square kilometres. All 42%.

    Together with NZ and the UK, we own 57.5% of this supposedly South American territory. Brazil owns ZERO %.

    As for Paraguay being Brazil's. You might wish and hope but Brazil's empire building days are long behind it.

    Indeed when Brazil tells other South American leaders to jump they just look back and smirk. Brazil could have lead but botched it by saddling itself with Argentina and now Venezuela. The Pacific Alliance is the manifestation of Brazil's failure.

    Oct 27th, 2013 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 22 Brasileiro

    Here is a film you have not shown us!

    Brazil winning a nuclear war against America and Europe if the cartoons are anything to go by.

    Now we understand why the Marxist terrorist Dilma wants the nuclear sub: it's not to protect the oilfields, it's to promote Brazil onto the world stage as a nuclear force.

    Oh dear, this won't work out well for Brazil.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAgEL7kJqPM&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A

    Oct 27th, 2013 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Portugueses in another language

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reuhRjgB6xg

    Oct 27th, 2013 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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