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Brazil marks distance from US spying: 'we did not violate anyone's privacy rights'

Wednesday, November 6th 2013 - 03:26 UTC
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Brazil's Minster of Justice Jose Eduardo Cardozo said on Tuesday that the spying performed by his country's intelligence agency did not violate anyone's privacy rights - unlike the spying committed by the United States. Read full article


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  • Anglotino

    So now spying isn't an invasion of privacy?

    So hard to understand people eating crow.

    Nov 06th, 2013 - 03:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Bollocks! Tell that to the UN.

    Nov 06th, 2013 - 06:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    “When someone spy's against us it's an invasion of privacy, but when we spy against someone else that's okay.”

    What a load of crap.

    Also the amount that you spend on 'spying' isn't actually relevant. Your president stood up, trying to take the moral high ground, stating that Brazil DIDN'T spy. Now that was a bare-faced lie, wasn't it?

    Brazil stop being hypocritical.

    Nov 06th, 2013 - 07:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    This is obviously a big misunderstanding and a simple case of good spying versus bad spying.
    Using algorithms parsed through metadata scanning for potential terrorists is a human rights violation and bad spying. Whatever Brazil did was GOOD spying.
    How long will it be that it comes out Brazil spied on their political opponents? If you're going to complain about others pissing on you, don't be pissing out the window yourself.

    Nov 06th, 2013 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @ Captain Poppy

    “Using algorithms parsed through metadata scanning for potential terrorists”

    Oh! sure Puppy

    Terrorists are right now quite busy embedding meta data in tags and posting in facebook what are they gonna do.

    Will me more easy to prevent massive killing cinema style in US than to catch a real terrorist by using this method.
    Have you ever thought to make a search engine with that?

    Nov 06th, 2013 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RICO

    If I was Brazils spy agency I would be rather embarrassed at admitting that my work does not breach a single persons right to privacy. If all any terrorist has to do is put a label on his bomb saying private he would be able to set it off anywhere, how safe will the World Cup be?

    Nov 06th, 2013 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    It is rather like when a politician is caught having experimented in drugs at university. The Brazilians are trying to justify it as 'harmless spying' or 'we tried it once but we didn't inhale'. In both cases people would have more respect for them if they just admitted it.

    Nov 06th, 2013 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    You have got to laugh at these clowns, HaHaHa, Pathetic really.

    Nov 06th, 2013 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Brazil is not ready to play in the big leagues. They need another generation or two to grow up.

    Nov 06th, 2013 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    These bozo's cannot have it both ways yet they seem to be trying for it. Spying is spying and as most of us have previously stated, every country does it. Apparently even the countries that have condemned it as an outrageous act against humanity.
    One correction....every country that has the intelligence and resources and not to mention the need to spy does it. I did not want to group Argentina into that category as they have neither the intelligence, resources and need to spy other than their political opponents and the middle class.
    International hypocrites. Oh yes......and good luck with your internal servers in Brazil law.

    Nov 06th, 2013 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @9 Poor little Brazil. When will we be seeing evidence of Cardozo's assertions? Now a close look at what he said.
    “I don't see what was done as a violation of privacy or rights, and it was done on national territory. So, if you ask me how does this affect Brazil's image, I would say that there has been no damage. All countries do, and have to do, counterespionage. What I can't do is violate the rights of other people. What I can't do is violate the sovereignty of others,” Cardozo said.

    It wasn't violation of privacy or rights. So Brazil intercepted all sorts of stuff but didn't decode, decrypt or read any of it. Waste of time then. And it was done on national territory. And that makes it okay? Intercepting stuff isn't violating other people's rights? How about Article 12 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights? And Brazil ratified the UDHR. What a dozy and inept liar.

    Nov 06th, 2013 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    “Egg” meet “Face.”

    It's a well used idiom on this forum, but you really could not make this stuff up!

    Nov 06th, 2013 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    I never posted anything on the Snowden crap other than to say the obvious: and here it is folks Brazil have been caught doing what they blamed the US for doing! Priceless and totally predictable.

    It's no use getting all steamed up about the US, Germany, the UK, uncle Tom Cobbly and all: “chill out” (what an awful, modern expression).

    The laugh is of course, unless I missed it, nobody has bothered spying on TMBOA: do you think this is why she had a “clot on the brain”? Ha, ha, ha.

    Nov 06th, 2013 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Nov 06th, 2013 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Considering Brazil's crime rate, it is clearly obvious that they never violate the privacy of the gangs that are running rampant in the favelas.

    Nov 06th, 2013 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

    Another way of looking at the last statement by Senator Dias is “ If we had the larger budget, we would. “

    The major powers have a different set of rules and a different playbook regarding intelligence and intelligence services. Any country that aspires to be a major power must have a pro-active intelligence program, equal to the task, and not just counter-intelligence. Avoiding threats, disasters, and preventing major problems such as famine for example, is expected of the government of any major power. Recognizing and being ahead of such problems, comes with good intelligence and subsequent planning.

    The protection of the resources in the Amazônia Azul region alone, requires such a program upgrade.

    Nov 06th, 2013 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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