Several major environmental groups, including Greenpeace and WWF, have walked out of UN climate talks in Warsaw, Poland in protest at what they see as a lack of progress towards an international deal to curb rising global greenhouse gas emissions. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThey should have seen it coming. Poland is not about to trash its energy industry, unlike the UK and Germany.
Nov 22nd, 2013 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The British government knows best,
Nov 22nd, 2013 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cold—put a jumper on
Freezing- strike a match
Blocked roads—stay in bed,
The British government knows best.
Still,
Lions led by 20th century donkeys spring to mind..??
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Environmental groups don't live in the real world. We've already seen that the climate change geeks got it wrong. The Arctic icecap is melting and will soon disappear! Except that it's growing back. How about whether rich nations should pay developing countries for losses suffered due to the effects of climate change? Why the hell should they? Why is it always a race to the bottom? Look at various places in Africa and Asia. They suffer from poor health conditions, malnutrition, famines, poverty. They are provided with hundreds of billions of any currency you like to name and what do they do? They procreate. They make their own situation worse and then expect more aid. Time to be realistic. No more aid. There was no aid when the countries that are now rich were making their way. Let's try an example. Ethiopia. Constantly having famines. But, with 93 million inhabitants, it is the most populous land-locked country in the world. Between 1950 and 2010, the population grew by 64.5 million. In a country that suffers from famines? Countries like this should be subject to forcible population control. See China's one-child policy. It would be nice if somewhere like Ethiopia adopted a similar voluntary policy. But it won't. Because somewhere else is paying for it. So it'll have to be done the hard way. Withdraw all aid and then tell them what they HAVE to do. No population increase for 10 years. Live within their means. Now consider how many countries that could be applied to. A planet can only support just so many people. THAT'S what needs to be recognised. Then there would be enough to go around.
Nov 22nd, 2013 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, goody, goody.
Nov 22nd, 2013 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is about time the greenies ALL got a slap in the face to wake them up to reality.
The Kyoto debacle led by that Stalwart Of Stupidity, the secretary shagger and croquet player supreme, who was also a Trades Union leader for ships waiters, none other than Lord (FFS) John Prescott, who had a commanding understanding of fuck all, did more to raise energy prices in the UK than any other single thing.
Now all we want is to stop wasting precious resources on the stupid windmills that NEVER pay back the cost of manufacturing them, taking them thousands of miles and the cost of installing them. Oh, then there’s the cost of replacing the variable transmissions, the brakes (that don’t) and the final disappointment when you need to move the things to the Falklands to get the world’s best output: 40% of the rated capacity. That should be a warning to anybody NOT on the Falklands!
It reminds me of a really good salesman who was being interviewed for a top job (this is true). When asked by the owner of the company what profit increase he could bring to the business he said “whatever you want”. He GOT THE JOB! The company failed to make a profit for the first time ever in its history within 12 months and he was fired. At least THEY learnt how useless he was. What a pity that it is only just dawning on the UK users of these devices which struggle to reach 8% of rated output.
This article is the best news I have had since Prescott had to admit to his wife he’d been shagging the help.
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