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Panama reaffirms support for Argentina's Malvinas claim and promotes 'friendship groups' at congressional level

Saturday, November 30th 2013 - 19:49 UTC
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Panama Foreign minister Fernando Núñez Fábrega underlined his country's traditional and committed support for Argentina's sovereignty claims over the Malvinas and other South Atlantic Islands and their adjoining maritime spaces, an issue that was discussed during this week's visit to Buenos Aires, a special guest of his peer Hector Timerman. Read full article

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  • reality check

    Confirm what they like and at the same time pray that bother twat like Noriega does not come along!

    Fucking S. America, like a stage on a West End Commedy!

    Nov 30th, 2013 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Panama, they make hats don't they? Oh and they have a canal as well. Otherwise nothing that the west needs from them. Support who you wish, means jackshit to us. SELF DETERMINATION FOR THE FALKLANDERS

    Nov 30th, 2013 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redp0ll

    Panama , a rebelprovince of Colombia whose independence was puchased by for $25 million dollars by the US govt in 1913 because the yankees wanted to build a canal
    If Colombia ever wished to abrogate the treaty, obtained under armed duress , the case for Panamanian sovriegnty apart from their wishes as a people would be very weak

    Nov 30th, 2013 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Corvus corax

    ''elaborating on fiscal transparency''

    Was that:
    Timerman- We simply get INDEC to say inflation is 10%. If we ignore the truth, then 10% will be a part of the overall figure, so 10% is true!

    Did Fabrega have a prepared statement from the Argentine Foreign Office about 'Malvinas' so Timerman would be happy and break open the champagne? Does Timerman hand out the same card to all his visitors?

    Tune in next week...

    ...to watch a repeat, just with a different actor as the visiting dignitary.

    Nov 30th, 2013 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    WTF do RG's have to offer to Panama?

    Nothing, it's the old Latin American Brother act again. Push come to shove, the support will disappear like shit through a Gooses ass.

    What's the old song go like, “Rum and Cola, working for the Yankee Dollar!”

    Nov 30th, 2013 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    If they REALLY support them, why don't they loan them a lawyer and give them a plane ticket to The Hague. The ICJ is waiting.... Oh yes, no one really supports their claim, including Argentina's own government who won't pursue it through the only means available....

    Nov 30th, 2013 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    GFace.

    Bloody hell, you do realise your talking about the RG's?

    Thieves only go to court when they know they can win.

    In this case, they can not even cop a plea!

    Nov 30th, 2013 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    @7 Well then they ain't gonna be gettin' much, are they...

    Nov 30th, 2013 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Bahahahahahaha

    This feels familiar? Oh that's right, it sounds like the recent friendship group announced by the Panamanian parliament.

    http://en.mercopress.com/2013/10/23/falklands-panama-friendship-group-at-legislative-level-is-announced-in-panama

    I suppose if you can't beat 'em then join 'em!

    And PS guys, I live with two Colombians, have travelled there and have many Colombian friend and I have never met a single one that says Panama should be anything other than an independent country. Some countries get over national setbacks and move on…. clearly others don't.

    Nov 30th, 2013 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • El capitano

    Ahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...ROFLMAO.....Like I have said before...“ Ya cant make this shit up”....!!

    Nov 30th, 2013 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    They ought to be careful, the next time the SEALS come ashore, they will get it right, after all, they did a good job taking down OBL.

    Nov 30th, 2013 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    “traditional” = old; “committed” - well they probably should be. Support only needs expressing loudly when its being eroded ........ funny that :-)

    Nov 30th, 2013 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    The Falklanders are running out of friends in that side of the world....

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Actually the Falkland Islanders had a “friendship group” with Panama FIRST.

    As is the case with Argentina, they are playing catch up.

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 02:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brasherboot

    “The Falklanders are running out of friends in that side of the world....”

    Hardly. But lers face it. Who cares.? The UK has ships that can demolish the entire south american airforces combined on their own.

    Best that the Falklands chooses its friends carefully.

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 03:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Don't worry Brits, the leader of Pocklington supports your cause :-))))

    http://www.pocklingtonpost.co.uk/news/local/pocklington-mayor-s-falkland-islands-trip-1-3530365

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 04:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    What a beautiful article Marcos. Thank you.

    I especially like it when Governor Haywood said: “I hope you have now seen that the sacrifices recorded in this book were not in vain, and that from its difficulties of 1982 have sprung independent, strong-minded people with a bright future.”

    Independent, strong-minded people with a bright future.

    Indeed the four things that scare CFK witless:
    Independent - thanks to CFK's actions
    strong-minded - thanks to CFK's actions
    people - thanks to CFK again
    with a bright future - not Argentinean but bright instead.

    Hope you don't mind if I post this article elsewhere and spread the word. Funny I always thought you were pro-Argentine, but I guess I was wrong.

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 05:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    What a beautiful comment Anglolatino. Thank you.

    I especially like it when you mentioned that an English Governor (Haywood)still rules this far away colony in South America.
    Not wonder Panama and the whole region supports Argentina.
    Hope you don't mind if you post your comment elsewhere and spread the word.

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 07:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    Unfortunately it has become the default position for every visiting politician to Argentina to have to say this, its the path of least resistance.

    I would say that it is better to have one true friend, than a collection people who are geographically obliged to be nice and say what i expected to keep the peace.

    It also helps if the one true friend is particularly good at kicking ass!

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=hms+queen+elizabeth&rlz=1CASMAE_enGB530GB530&espv=210&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=5OmaUqSfEYaRhQf8w4DYCA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=657#facrc=_&imgdii=j69gCWNO-Zl0cM%3A%3BWrUZa_1OzQlymM%3Bj69gCWNO-Zl0cM%3A&imgrc=j69gCWNO-Zl0cM%3A%3BdztOxcDH5EwcdM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fgolfhotelwhisk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2013%252F01%252FGolfHotelWhiskey.com-HMS-Queen-Elizabeth-and-Parliament.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.golfhotelwhiskey.com%252Fhms-queen-elizabeth-and-prince-of-wales-making-sense-of-their-scale%252F%3B460%3B232

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 07:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    “Human Rights” as quoted in the self-styled above agreement; : self-determination is one of them.

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Oh Marcos, paste away.

    Though I am wondering which comment you read.

    Even the dumbest idiot produced by the Argentine education system would understand that the Governor in Falkland Islands doesn't “rule”.

    So if even the dumbest idiot could work that out, what does that make you?

    Please feel free to post this comment elsewhere too.

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falkland Islands

    @Marcos Alejandro. it does not matter who you “get on your side” I remember at school the bullies try to get people on their side, and they do, but at the end of the day unless they kill someone to get what they want things stay the same. And that is what will happen, we will still have the Falklands and you will lose your freinds.

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @13 Actually, the Falkland Islanders only need one friend. The one that will send army, navy and air force units. The one that will turn argieland into a wasteland “inhabited” by corpses. Anyone think the UK doesn't have cruise missiles with nuclear warheads? NOTHING in latam can match the UK. In 1982, the UK sent 10% of its armed forces. Imagine if the UK had sent 90%!

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • andy65

    @ Marcos Alejandro, I was recently walking in the street of B.A with my beautiful German Shepherd when I was stopped by a man, plump in stature bald and wearing glasses from a by gone age. As I walked passed he stopped and bent down to pat my dog and clearly heard him say “thank you for your support over the Falkland Islands” WTF !!!!

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Heisenbergcontext

    @24

    That sounds suspiciously like a shaggy dog story...

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redp0ll

    Panama, a country notorious for money laundering from drug profits so any dirty dollars to whiten, you political cronies of CFK?
    Better than the Seychelles and they speak Spanish and Tango 1 could probably land there with impunity

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    “The ministers also expressed their commitment to promote 'parliamentary friendship groups' among the two countries congresses”

    @9 Anglotino Agreed.

    Argentine politics is in a bad state when a country's foreign policy (population 40m +) are influenced by a country of 3000+

    Like a childish game of tit for tat but they've shut the door after the horse has bolted in this case.

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • andy65

    What's the word I am looking for when someone constantly seeks re assurance

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    Marcos, Rgland has the support of another banana republic. When you are grasping at straws, every little helps....

    Bad news is, Falkland Islands dont need any support, they have Britain. How is the Big Issue vending going, or have you got promoted to Cartonero yet?

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    I just love the bit where Timerman says, 'commitment to strengthen democracy, human rights etc...' - he keeps forgetting the human rights of the Falkland Islanders and Article 73 of the UN Charter - Declaration Regarding Non-Self-Governing Territories which states, 'that the interests of the inhabitants are paramount.'

    and

    The UN ICJ Advisory Opinion of 21st June 1971

    Paragraph 52

    'Furthermore, the subsequent development of International Law in regard to non-self-governing territories, as enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations, made the principle of self-determination applicable to all of them.'
    www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/53/5595.pdf

    Still, Timerman's words are just for the simpletons who are incapable of independent thought.

    Oh I forgot, the Falkland Islanders have no rights. Lol

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    @ 2 Panama Hats are actually and always have been a product of Ecuador.

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    One thing to be said for Panama, the canal enables shipping to avoid going anywhere near RGland unless it has to. The French and Americans did a great job...

    Marcos are you picking up plastic this week :-)

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • rupertbrooks0

    18 Marcos Alejandro

    For your information the Falklands are ruled by law, laws passed by the oldest democratically elected legislature in the whole of South America. The Governor represents the Queen in her absence, much like the Governor generals of Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

    The Falklands are an overseas territory with their own constitution, laws, tax system, immigration policy, police force, currency, postal system, health, education and social system etc. All resources in and around the islands are the property of the islands, not the UK.

    Of course if Argentina got their way than the islands really would be a colony, a colony of Argentina, who would impose their laws, currency, taxes and rule upon the inhabitants in flat contradiction to their democratic wishes.

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    fxck it
    lets go to war, and end this fxcking joke,
    wipe out the whole fucking human race,
    all for the bloody greed of a few arrogant dictators,

    and we bet if the last bloody man in the world was a stupid argies , he would say ???
    and quite right too.

    just dreaming.

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • El Diego

    Thank you Panama - your support is appreciated as is the support of our other Latin friends. Each day the poodle is more and more isolated.

    The USA does not support it's little poodle either on this and will soon have to go back to it's kennel with it's tail between it's legs.

    The Brazilians are also pushing to get the poodle out of it's region and the time is coming soon for a withdrawal - some important poodle politicians are working behind the scenes to make this a reality.

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    El whatitsname, (are you anything to do with our global drinks company?) you are mistaken, its not a poodle (which country took the lead in democratically deciding not to intervene in Syria and who followed). Its actually a bulldog with a wicked temper when aroused and very sharp teeth. When the bulldog sinks its teeth in it doesnt let go. Just watch it... and by the way what the Brazilians do is different to what they might say. Pillock!

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    *23 do you invite anybody around for tea?? :) and do they have to pass the land mines/ snipers/ savage dogs/ booby traps/???

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • José Malvinero

    The idiots of the English that occupying our islands Malvinas thought they could to profit in your favor, and Panamanians neither silly nor lazy they organized one little trip to the far Malvinas Argentinas, with all expenses paid by the pirates. What stupids that english!

    Dec 01st, 2013 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Huh?

    Something about dust! Dust anybody dust?

    Dec 02nd, 2013 - 02:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    eurofighter typhoon is being equipped with stormshadow a cruise missile with a 500km range should be at MPA for 2015 I'm sure that will upset someone.

    Dec 02nd, 2013 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Well if I were the Panamanian twat who shook Gollums hand I would be furious to learn that I didn't get a medal!

    You can just imagine his response when he reads it in MP: “no fucking medal when the stupid bitch from wherever it is, soon to be Venezuela got one! I think we will withdraw our support – it never fitted Gollum anyway!”

    Gollum: “The Pratt of the World. What a title and utterly deserved.

    Dec 02nd, 2013 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Well all we can honestly say is this,

    if you really want the Falkland's that bad,
    then just come and take them,

    you brag , threaten , abuse , try to intimidate,
    go on be manly,
    come and get them if your that desperate,

    or Soddy offy and wrap the white flag around ya..

    Dec 02nd, 2013 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    Well if I were the Panamanian who shook Gollums hand I would - count my fingers.

    Dec 02nd, 2013 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @38
    Why dont you lot stick to the Geneva Convention and remove all the landmines placed in unknown minefields. You bunch of cowards, you lot couldn't fight your way out of a paper bag. PATHETIC

    Dec 02nd, 2013 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    A wet paper bag, even.
    A shower of prancing popinjays.
    Mussolini taught you well.

    Dec 03rd, 2013 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    38 José Malvinero
    Very silly aint you,
    The idiots of the English that occupying our islands,

    British old chap, British Falkland islands,
    You need more education,
    It’s the union jack on the pole,
    Not argentine,

    Idiots we may be in your eyes,
    In ours,
    You are indoctrinated and losers…

    ..

    Dec 03rd, 2013 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @35
    “The Brazilians are also pushing to get the poodle out of it's region”

    By buying warships off the poodle?

    Argentina is shit scared of the poodle otherwise they would have invaded since 1982.

    Does this make Argentina a sausage dog?

    When are Panama going to supply some troops to support Gollum's invasion plan (get others to fight the Brits so the Argies will save millions of Pesos on white flags) .

    Dec 04th, 2013 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    the more brazil grows in wealth and power,
    the less Argentina becomes of interest,

    soon brazil will be top dog,
    and CFK will be its poodle...lol

    Dec 04th, 2013 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @48

    A factor that CFK doesn't notice behind the dense stratas of make-up.

    One thing is for certain -the Falkland Islands are no poodle of Argentina- judging by the way Argentina's foreign minister has to copy Falkland Island political ideas.

    Dec 04th, 2013 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    ha ha .

    Dec 05th, 2013 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    WELL DONE PANAMA!!!

    Dec 06th, 2013 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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