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Argentina fears more massive protest and looting on anniversary of 2001 economy meltdown

Tuesday, December 10th 2013 - 06:11 UTC
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While facing the challenge of police unrest that has spread to half of the Argentine provinces the government of President Cristina Fernandez is designing a plan to counter the threat of further rioting and looting on 20 December, the anniversary of the worst day of the 2001 crisis which forced the resignation of then elected president Fernando de la Rúa and was followed by the largest sovereign debt default in Argentine history. Read full article

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  • Frank

    ' this week marks the thirstiest anniversary' hmmm.... no bog paper in Venezuela, no beer in BA?

    No wonder KFC is shitting herself...

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 06:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    Yes paying people early is the answer. Apparently answering their actual concerns won't work at all.

    Does the government actually believe that paying people a couple of weeks early will actually achieve something? Especially as the value of their bonus drops everyday, to the point where they probably won't be able to buy that much?

    But let's not address the real issues here. The lack of security. All those people with extra money in their pockets, wandering around the lawless streets of Argentine towns and cities, just looking for someone to mug them.

    What a stupid plan.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 06:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Paying then early = bread

    Looting = circuses

    Panem et circenses in action.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 07:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    Are the doses of Falklands propaganda wearing thin with the particularly and uniquely stupid Argentine populous. It seems that not being paid actually matters more, who would have thought!

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 08:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    They will splurge those bonuses and in January the money will run out. Then the looting will start and TMBOA will head for NYC

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 09:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    Breaking news! TMBOA has been given the all clear to fly by her doctors.

    No doubt she has a helicopter on standby, suitcases packed (with US dollars)...just in case.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    It looks like Argentina will be celebrating 30 years of democracy by having a military coup ......
    How ironic .
    @6 She actually prefers euros , because you can get more 500 euro notes in a suitcase .

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    http://t.news.uk.msn.com/world/five-die-in-argentina-police-strike-1

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    I was chatting with an Argentinean chap in New York on Sunday. He lives in NYC but his family are still in Argentina. After the usual niceties he quickly moved on to how frightened he was for his family and how dangerous it had become there. He noticed a marked change on his last visit home and how under-reported serious crime is. He explained how so many people there are hiding cash in their houses because they don't trust the banks and consequently they are then vulnerable to being robbed. (He said robbed and killed for their cash). He also described how his own family kept large amounts of cash in a hole under the bed until recently when they used it to buy a house, reasoning that when the peso devalues they will at least still have the bricks and mortar.

    This conversation was entirely driven by the chap eager for people to know how serious the situation is there.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    And the inmates are controlling the asylum.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    “However the Argentine government is very concerned with the social networks that are calling for a massive protest and looting in shops and CHINESE supermarkets on the 20 December anniversary”

    WOW what a way to treat some of your new best friends the Chinese by looting their supermarkets ,Argentines seem to have no shame or are they just that desperate???

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Where are the South American leaders at Mandela's Memorial service? Dont they trust Tango 1 over the Atlantic. Is TMBOA frightened of leaving in case they wont let her back in?

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @12 Dilma is there.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    Dilma and Argentine deputy are suppose to be representing their respective country's

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Dilma is giving a speech at this moment. Incidentally, she and Obama warmly greeted each other with kisses. I am waiting for Mugabe to photo-bomb Obama.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Dilma is now speaking through an interpreter. Shame she cannot speak the universal language.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Paying them early won't help. I've been waiting for this for a long time.
    The K model is finished.
    I am happy. I will be ecstatic when they put them all in chains.

    I am waiting for idiotic Think and his multiple personas to apologize and thank me for accurately predicting how this will end.

    Toby has obviously lost his mind he is too young to remember that in 2001 it was bad but he'll soon find out this next crash will be worse. Much much worse.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Is Boudou still 'Acting President'? I thought CFK had taken back the reins.

    I see Maduro is there. Obviously he does not think there is an assassination plot today. Maybe tomorrow but not today.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I find it hilarious that our rgidiot regulars are always absent when bad stuff is reported.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Optimus_Princeps

    This entire event was quite shameful. If you asked anyone if this would happen four years ago, they would have looked at you as if you were crazy.

    There was one casualty a few blocks away, and a lot of people showed up to their places of work early. Though they likely won't be conducting any business today. One of my friends had to work a shift while several stores around his place of business were being looted.

    The Ks will try to blame the opposition, calling these attacks “premeditated”. The fact is these people developed a sense of entitlement, a need for confrontation, and they have developed the idea that the rule of law doesn't exist. The police ironically come from similar backgrounds.

    I knew that Cristina wouldn't bode well through this year. How long before she leaves Argentina in a private plane against medical advice?

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Welsh Wizard

    I arrive in BA on saturday night. I wonder what will await. The Police really a bunch of cnuts in that country

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    20. I knew this would happen 4 years ago.
    Welsh if your staying in a nice hotel you'll be fine.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Welsh Wizard

    Plaza. Job done

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    @9 ElaineB
    It is the small talk that is so telling when combined with the overall picture.

    Here in Elqui province I meet a lot of Argies. I have noticed a big shift in their evaluation of their home country.

    Just last Saturday I was in the Plaza at the public chess club with 2 of my kids when an Argie couple approached and asked if their girl could join in. Once we got her a game set up they started chatting with me. They were from Mendoza. I asked them how they found La Serena and they replied politely that it was nice and that they were impressed at how safe the city was. They elaborated that back home the crime and safety was a big problem and many public spaces were now unsafe. It used to be uncommon to hear such comments from provincial Argies.

    When you put the real discontent of everyday Argies in to the wider picture of corrupt and incompetent political leadership, it is easy to see that there is turbulence ahead.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    @23
    Watch out for the bird shit scam
    http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTopic-g312741-i979-k5571705-Bird_Poo_scam_alive_and_well_in_Buenos_Aires-Buenos_Aires_Capital_Federal_District.html

    Mind you, if the coppers go on strike, they may just cut the middle man out and bash you over the head to take your money

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    @19 Yankee
    “I find it hilarious that our rgidiot regulars are always absent when bad stuff is reported.”

    But this is good news for some of our trolls. The looting is a result of the police strike action, which is a result of the deterioration of public finances, which as a consequence has led to S&P down grading Mendoza's credit rating to “non investment grade”, which means less foreign investment ... which must be good right?

    Or is it a case of evil, self-serving, Anglo S&P playing their part in the international coordinated effort to destroy Argieland?

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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  • yankeeboy

    Toby you should be out playing with the other rioters. This may be your last chance to get a new computer for the next decade.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    @28
    He has his hands over his ears and is shouting “la la la ....”

    He is clearly upset at events and can't bring himself to celebrate the S&P down grade.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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  • Welsh Wizard

    @25

    I remember a similar scan in Delhi in 2001 when I was on my gap yaaaaar. Although there is was dog poo on your shoe. They had some kind of poo gun which they would fire at the end of your shoe just as you were crossing under the road. On the other side there was a kindly Indian chap who would point to your shoe and explain that the dogs in India really were very cunning and you mustn’t have noticed it whilst you were rushing. They would then quickly clean it off and charge you an extortionate rate. No pick-pocketing, just a charming little scam...

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Or Running around screaming all is well all is well
    Cfk is in a corner huddled up swaying back and forth repeating the model works the model works.
    More lithium please.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    On the 30th anniversary of the return of democracy there are now 9 people dead in the midst of the sacking related disorder.

    That is 9 Argies killed by Argies, deliberately, in events that revolve around stealing food and televisions.

    This is depressing news, but Toby keep the hits rolling and keep telling yourself Galtieri is better than Mother Teresa if it helps you deal with it.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    They're up to 10 reported deaths. It took 28 in 2001 to get the last Prez to leave in shame. So were almost 1/2 way there.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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  • Condorito

    I'm wondering how long it is going to take one of the xenophobic trolls to suggest the looters are not Argie. Toby? Dany?

    ...

    CFK is going to make a speech today. I think she has what it takes to fan the flames.

    ...

    Toby, that's another death reported...time for DJ Death to spin another hit. #TwistedToby

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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  • ChrisR

    @ 34 yankeeboy

    TMBOA doesn't know the meaning of the word “shame”, she thinks it's a cowboy film starring Alan Ladd.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    @37
    Its a beautiful train journey that, but never mind trains, the mode of transport of the day is horse and cart:

    http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1646325-tucuman-mientras-un-centenar-de-policias-esta-acuartelado-se-registran-robos-y-disturbios

    Looters getting away with a freezer on a horse and cart ...

    ... It is your self-sufficient agrarian nirvana meets the reality of Ks Argentina. Careful what you wish for!

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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    Dec 10th, 2013 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brasherboot

    ..and meanwhile in London (the capital of pirates and colonialists blah blah), its lovely: Economy is booming and we're all looking forward to a beautiful christmas.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Except I remember water canon tanks being used on protesters in BA when I lived there.
    So that was a lot of posting for a lie, Toby.
    Did you get a new laptop?
    Are you protecting the sugar I told you to bu
    So exciting to be watching from the soft sand beaches on the beautiful gulf.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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  • Condorito

    @40 Toby,
    Events in England and France are irrelevant to what is happening today in Argentina.

    I am pointing out to you that you frequently espouse the virtue of the economic measures that have contributed to the current economic problems of Argentina. The deteriorating financial situation has led to the police strike which in turn has allowed the looting to occur.

    The situation was exacerbated by political brinkmanship when outside help was denied to Cordoba. Hence my “naive” assessment that this crisis is due to the combination of the economic scenario and political corruption and incompetence.

    Even with my “paucity of perspicuous acumen” I can tell you that once this crisis abates, it will only be a reprieve. Any pay increase will be destroyed by inflation and the social/economic problems will remain.

    But don't worry yourself about that and can we have some soothing music for these children cowering from the flying bullets Tucuman:

    https://twitter.com/Alerta140/status/410152520212692992/photo/1

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    TTT is panicking and you can't blame him. An idealist faced with reality.

    Lawlessness will continue in Argentina.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    The governor of Buenos Aires, Argentina's most populous province, managed to avert a strike by agreeing to almost double the entry-level salary of the police to 8,500 pesos (£830; $1,360) a month.

    £830 a month!!!!! our school dinner ladies get more than that :-)))))))

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-25315210

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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  • Welsh Wizard

    @46 and how will they pay for that? Print, print, print...

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Toby, how do you know what is going on in Mendoza, you don't live there!

    I would have thought this is more your style?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h37KQu64RY4

    :-)))))

    Or perhaps Maximo might enjoy it?

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    @44
    Toby, I am happy that Mendoza has escaped relatively unaffected thus far.

    Your attribution of the deaths to “usual flash points of sporadic civil unrest” constitutes staggering naivety.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    Wonder if Cristina feels another clot forming

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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  • LEPRecon

    You'll have to forgive Tobias, his wonderful socialist utopia, that he has been defending so long as being all singing and dancing, and far better than anywhere else in the world, is burning around his ears.

    Hence the stupid posts in the hopes of distracting people from the truth, whilst at the same time burying his head in the sand, and hoping it'll all magically go away.

    It won't, however, will it Tobias?

    This civil unrest is a symptom of the disease of corruption, mismanagement and crass arrogance of the Argentine government.

    It's fiscal policies were unsustainable, it's actions criminal, and the results are Argentina imploding.

    Tick, tock, Tobias. Argentina is burning, your utopia was found to be rotten to the core, you have nothing at all, hence your irrelevant youtube posts.

    Never mind, at least you're safe in Canada, and don't have to worry about a bunch of rioting looters breaking into your house and robbing you blind.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    Here is the big question of the day:

    Will CFK have the good sense to cancel the anniversary party?

    If she opens her mouth and attempts to politicize it or belittle the significance she is going to make it worse.

    Toby, what do you think is going to happen?

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @Condorito

    “I'm wondering how long it is going to take one of the xenophobic trolls to suggest the looters are not Argie. Toby? Dany?”

    No need to be xenophobic here I guess, you own TV from Chile have exposed crows of Chilean thieves operating in Buenos Aires.

    Chilean thieves operating in Buenos Aires (La Mira Chilean TV program)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09h8_kLrCGA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09h8_kLrCGA

    Well seems you know very well the pick pocketing business and now you are exporting know how to Argentina.

    Enjoy the video it is quite interesting...

    Oops!

    Looting in Chile how that could be possible?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09h8_kLrCGA

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    @55
    Dany, I have never denied that there are Chilean thieves operating in BA, Madrid, London etc. so not sure what your point is other than implying that you are in fact the xenophobic troll.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    Toby, if you Think any of us are stupid enough to click on any link posted by you, Think again!

    Where was the RG Pope today - not invited! The Lutherans and Protestants didnt want their country and a tribute to a really great man sullied by mumbo jumbo artists. Perhaps you lot ought to invite him back to keep order on the 20th? Castro got ignored which is not surprising.

    Anyway, as you honorary Canadians know all about Rgland, tell us your prediction for the 20th?

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    9 dead in Argentine riots reported by the BBC in an 'we don't really care, but here it is' kind of way.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    The end is near,
    A new year is coming , and a new leader may well follow,

    Her deluded dreams are being shot down in flames,

    are you watching Spain...lol,

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @52 120.9 TroLL FM
    Are you doing requests???

    Don’t cry for me Argentina!!!

    Burn baby burn!!!!

    Pretty Vacant!!!

    @55 DanyBerger
    So what is your explanation of what’s happening, or is it not happening.

    All caused by monolingual kebab eaters moving in from Chile, you say.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Oh no!

    Seems the regulator has taken 120.9 DroLL FM off the air.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    According to the argentine truth committee,
    It’s all fabricated by the British to embarrass and shame Argentina on the world stage.

    Still,
    Someone has to get the blame,
    So it might as well be us…lol

    .

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Where are Think, Dany, José and Marcos?

    GOD DON'T TELL ME.......

    The strike has spread to the Department of Propoganda and Disinformation.... perhaps as far as La Campora?

    And then there's Nostrils who has to live with the slap down of of what was his shortest lived persona.

    Christmas has come early on Mercopress.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    @61 Anglotino
    That is a shame. He put so much energy in to all that denial ... and I had a request for CFK's dinner party, Black Sabbath - End of the Beginning:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhATDCGRGQw

    There are some apt questions for CFK (and any of here troll minions):

    Is this the end of the beginning?
    Or the beginning of the end?
    Losing control or are you winning?
    Is your life real or just pretend?

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Condorito

    Agreed, I was actually enjoying this persona. It was letting a little of his normal personality show through and not overshadowing it with his multiple mental health issues. The desire to hunker down and attempt to cut oneself off from reality is a natural reaction to being overwhelmed by events in your life.

    Indeed his posts had become more informative under this persona than we had seen for a while. I hope this doesn't push back his grand unveiling of their master plan (he uses the plural to either denote his multiple personalities or because his login is the result of multiple users (how very common for many Argentine posters on here)).

    I missed Dany's post earlier. Quite funny. Chilean pickpockets in BsAs reflects well on Chile and badly on Argentina. There is not enough lawlessness in Chile for them to operate freely so they moved to a more crime-ridden locale.

    Doesn't reflect well on Dany either. He expects us to believe that he is extremely intelligent and has made himself rich and yet he moved to a country fill of Chilean pickpockets, Argentine looters and 25% inflation.

    I guess Think is just sticking to Chilean articles at the moment. Salves his wounds to discuss a country that isn't falling apart.

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  • yankeeboy

    I read there was a battle at a sancor plant!
    Why would people rob a dairy plant?
    Food shortages must be much worse than our rgidiot posters have been letting on.

    I hope Think Marcos Toby et al have been guarding that sugar I've been telling them to buy.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    I can't make the Falkland islanders out, not wanting a piece of the Argy dream.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    @Anglotino

    I felt quite sorry for Dany and didn't want to dwell on his Chilean thieves tangent. He probably has plenty of really worries on his mind right now.

    @yankee
    Here is the video. It seems no one is not looting:

    http://www.urgente24.com/221760-tucuman-batalla-campal-durante-un-saqueo-en-sancor-video

    ...

    It is disappointing that none of the objective Argie posters have provided any insight on what is going on and what will happen. Optimus_P ?Cabeza Dura ?

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    CabezaDura..... tuff nut..... found us too “monothematic” for his liking. He left.

    As for any others, without knowing what their jobs are, they may be either on strike; looting; being looted or fighting looters.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    I liked CD. At least he could debate.

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    To Troll FM from Clyde FM. seems pertinent to the situation.
    Dany might enjoy it also!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=JSUIQgEVDM4

    I had to dredge into my past for this one.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=JSUIQgEVDM4

    ENJOY !!!

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  • Anglotino

    ElaineB

    Yes CabezaDura did at least debate. He did spit a bit of bile now and then but that is hardly surprising considering that is the norm for discourse in Argentina.

    At least he would reply and partake. As you can see Nostrils has degenerated into a gibbering wreck who won't face reality and Think hardly appears other than when an article appears. Case in point to a new article on the civil unrest on this site.

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  • Faz

    Oh dear...he's flipped again! Poor Toby, what sort of life will he have? I think I hit the spot....

    Dec 10th, 2013 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @72 Yes, I want to hear the opinions of Argentines. It is rare indeed to actually get a debate going. The usual response is attack or divert.

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  • Anglotino

    Perhaps CabezaDura's cabeza wasn't as dura as he thought.

    It can't be easy to live in a country where debate is twisted and used as a tool by the government to supress the truth. Perhaps he didn't truly realise how bad a name Argentineans are now gaining outside Argentina.

    After a decade of Kirchnerism and La Campora shaping their society, is it any wonder that Argentineans are now not seen as the role model or 'superior' civil society of Latin America?

    I am not sure. But he proved to be less duro that you would have thought.

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  • Millet

    In the last sentence of the above article the word shold be CHRISTMAS, not Xmas. - Millet USA

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  • Briton

    [78]
    relax calm down is only a blog,,.lol

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  • Anglotino

    Trembling in anticipation of Nostril's new persona now that this one has failed so spectacularly.

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  • Faz

    Its Doggy Rap... more dross

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  • Briton

    he has boon on the funny fags again ..lol

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  • Anglotino

    No. Doggy Rap has been around for ages. Just not very frequent until lately.

    http://en.mercopress.com/2013/01/21/argentina-s-wheat-crop-down-to-10-million-tons-2011-12-planted-area-25-less#comment208873

    January!!!!

    No, Nostrils is obviously keen to change but I don't think it is possible. He is a little too far gone…. like Kirchnerism.

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  • Pugol-H

    @ 82 Briton
    Quick trip to Uruguay, you think?

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  • Briton

    ha ha.

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  • Doggy Rap

    (Nostril's new persona)

    @ 81 Faz “Its Doggy Rap... more dross”

    I'll sue you for that libel!

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  • Anglotino

    Nostril's new and pathetic persona on here is Giorgio B. Tsoukalos.

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  • yankeeboy

    It's not new he's used in the past.
    I think his meds have run out and the pharmacies are still closed.

    When you've denied reality for so long and it comes crashing into your psyche all at once it must be very hard to accept.
    That's why Think, Marcos, Toby et al have all lost it.

    Dec 12th, 2013 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    WHEN DEMOCRACY IS UNDER EXTORTION.
    Unfortunatelly, there will always be some sectors of our society, who will use a legitimate claim like a pay raise, in order to extort the different governments.
    Policemen know perfectly that although they have right to claim for a better salary, they can't do any strike, due they can't leave our citizens without protection.
    What is going on in argentina since last sunday is no more than a despisable extortion, and i hope all provincial governments remove those people who started the strike, and accord among all the governors of the country, a deep and federal democratization of security forces. After 30 years of uninterrupted democracy, the democratization of those forces is a pendent debt, i know that it will be very difficult to do it, because most governors have always been too coward, and let security forces to get their own mony with illegal bussiness, however the last facts show that it's absolutly necesary carry on a federal democratization of our forces, otherwise, those people will continue extorting the different constitutional governments along the country.
    If argentina could judge the criminals of the worst dictatorship from latin america, then nothing is impossible.
    I wanted to go to plaza de mayo to celebrate the 30 aniversary of the recovery of our democracy, but i had to work, beside, when i heard that ten people died because of the protests, i felt too sad, and i didn't feel like celebrating anything. Anyway, a great man like president Raul Alfonsin will always have a special place in my memory, like Nestor Kirchner, and Cristina Fernandez de kirchner.

    Dec 12th, 2013 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Your government created your country Axel.

    Now live with the consequences.

    Dec 12th, 2013 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    90. you are wrong, God created all things then the brits divided the earth and the rest is history, you should read a little before writing BS, in Canada the your house can be looted too and the racist police won't do a thing to ptotect you, and if you do complain they will abduct you, bond you, beat you and dope you without do process, am seriously considering going back to south America and live of the looting European and north American corporates. seems to be more lucrative.

    Dec 13th, 2013 - 01:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Then move back. No one is stopping you.

    However it doesn't change the fact that Argentinean society is reaping its reward from a decade under Kirchnerism.

    By all means head back and enjoy the reward with them.

    Canada won't miss you.

    Dec 13th, 2013 - 03:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #91
    Maybe it's just you they object to ?

    Dec 13th, 2013 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    91 Pirat-Hunter
    you are wrong, God created all things then the brits divided the earth

    Your experience and professionalism and expertise plus reputation is now on the line,,

    [ PROVE IT ]

    .

    Dec 13th, 2013 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #91
    Just as a matter of interest, how many pirates HAVE you hunted and caught ?

    Dec 13th, 2013 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    And,
    If you do complain they will abduct you, bond you, beat you and dope you without do process,
    And I am seriously considering going back to south America and live

    Bye then…lolol
    .

    Dec 13th, 2013 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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