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Cristina Fernandez determined to decide on the incumbent candidate for 2015

Friday, December 27th 2013 - 00:16 UTC
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Argentine president Cristina Fernandez denied point blank any prospects of her running for office for a third consecutive period or any other elected post in the 2015 elections. Member of Congress Carlos Kunkel, considered an 'ultra-Kirchnerite' said on Christmas that at the end of her mandate “Cristina will continue in politics”. However Cristina will apparently decide on the incumbent presidential candidate for 2015. Read full article


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  • yankeeboy

    She'll be lucky to not be in jail by 2015.

    Dec 27th, 2013 - 03:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Burning tires now.

    What will they burn next?

    Dec 27th, 2013 - 03:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    The last picture I saw they had garbage dumpsters tipped over and aflame.

    The amount of toxins they're breathing must be incredible.
    Its no wonder most of the rg posters on this board are half wits or brain dead.

    Dec 27th, 2013 - 03:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    They must have lots of time on their hands.

    And frustrAted too - the Catholic Church estimates that 27% of the 40m population are living in poverty. That's more than 1 person in 4, and far more than the official 'K' figure of 7% !!!

    La Campora can't put them ALL to work at Aerolineas Argentina

    Poor Snotty, he'll be lucky if he can wear a hairnet and keep a steady job at Havanna.


    Dec 27th, 2013 - 04:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    The official 'K' figure of 7% is based on the assumption that an Argentine family of four can live on 3.70 US$ a day.

    Dec 27th, 2013 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    How much longer is it going to take RGs to realise that Peronist socialism doesnt work. How can they be so thick? Is their ambition to become another North Korea?

    Dec 27th, 2013 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 6 Faz
    “Is their ambition to become another North Korea?”

    I think they have been leading N. Korea in many areas:
    Raving lunatic in charge: check
    Government scared witless of crossing TRLIC ©ChrisR 2013/4: check
    Significant part of the population in abject poverty: check
    National money worthless inside and outside of country: check
    Policia out of control and striking when they like: check
    Infrastructure worthless and in desperate need of modernising (water, electric, railways and roads): check
    Voice unheard / not listened to outside of LatAm: check

    Dec 27th, 2013 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Iron Man

    ChrisR I think that's a bit unfair. North Korea is setting the bar for wannabe despots - CFK hasn't even had any of her family locked up, never mind taken out and shot.

    I reckon though she wants to choose the next leader so that she can make sure they don't have her arrested for fraud and embezzlement - there is an interesting column in the Herald on how people are waking up to her new found wealth and whether she should be impeached:

    Dec 27th, 2013 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    I dont think its as bad as N Korea yet. You can still say what you think although it could lead to a beating by their La Campora brownshirts. The poverty isnt yet as bad, but it is going in that direction. The efforts to silence the media are disgraceful, as is their attacks on the Falkland Islands. The RGs should all read 'Nothing to Envy' to clearly see where they are heading. But KFC/Gollums government arent going to recommend that are they? Where is the oposition to this band of nutcases?

    Dec 27th, 2013 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    “What happens is that Carlos adores me”, said the president”. Being a maniac. So kill Carlos. And every other wannabe successor. Destroy the autocracy!

    Dec 27th, 2013 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    I have a great respect and affection for kunkel and for some other kirchnerist lawmakers, however i really think some of them should be more responsable when they give their opinions before press, they should be more intelligent and realise that there are some expressions that they can't say, because many of the pathetic reresentants that we have in the different opponent political parties will always use their words, in order to make political operations, and shamefull speculations.
    C. f. k. was already very clear in three opportunities respecting the soposed re-reelection, even before the mid- time lection.
    In relation to the results of legislative election, is not serious to say that her party had a poor result, due to it was the winner of the election in national terms, after having ruled the country for ten years, which is a privilege that not many political parties around the world can have. Beside, any political analist knows perfectly that it is almost impossible in a legisltaive election to get the necessary votes, in order to get the two thirds of deputies and senators, with the purpose of reforming the constitution. Beside, what makes me laugh, is that the same cretins who criticise c. f. k's soposed ambitions for a third period, ar the same who affirm that we are in an end of cycle of kirchnerism. If it soposes that we are living an end of cycle of kirchnerism, then why do they make such a fass for c. f. k.'s soposes political ambitions?, it's evident that they can't be more pathetic and ridiculous, perhaps they realise that they would never win her any presidential election, that's why they need to make this kind of shameful speculations.

    Dec 27th, 2013 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    Was Cristina one of the Argentine's that got attacked by piranhas the other day?

    Dec 27th, 2013 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy


    Practice what your preach as you are the largest offender.

    Can someone please tell me how the hell one can be an “Incumbent” without sitting in the office?

    Axel it was nice an quiet when you keep your head up your kirchnerite ass, why ruin the serenity? I am starting to think you are her personal bidet. Does her shit not stink?
    The policies of your president KILLED Argentina. The number of Argentine's that have escaped and live in the North East corridor of the USA is astounding. I can't for the life of me image what it is like to live for 12 days without electricity or water because the federal government restricts utilities from profiting in order to invest in infrastructure.
    Keep believing the I said once before, you are like Baghdad Bob......

    “ We are repelling the infidels......defeating the American forces, they are dying by the thousands” As Abrams tanks were rolling past in the background. Your blind faith is no longer annoying and moved into the area of pathetic. She must pay you well to sell her propaganda. Ultimately you will pay the price.....midway through this summer and the winter nears.

    Dec 27th, 2013 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    8> Good call and I love the last paragraph:
    Were it not for the dark shadow of corruption that is hanging over her, Cristina could take a back seat for the next couple of years until her term finally runs out, so either a vaguely Kirchnerite team or, better still, a coalition of the best and brightest, could try and sort out the appalling economic mess her government has brought about or, at the very least, prevent it from reaching nightmarish proportions. Unfortunately, that option is too dangerous for her to contemplate. She simply cannot afford to let people think she has become too weak to stop the judicial machinery in its tracks. This being the case, she presumably feels she has little choice but to do her utmost to stay the course no matter what happens to the rest of the country

    Dec 27th, 2013 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redp0ll

    Kuddly kleine Karl Kunkel?

    Dec 28th, 2013 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #11 Well said as usual. Of course I'm with Kunkel on adoring Cristinita, but I do hope his comments haven't helped the other side by making her come out with this latest statement that she won't stand for anything. But I hope and somewhat expect she will change her mind - we've had quite a few MPs in Britain over the years who should have been retired long before if every comment of theirs had been an accurate prediction =) If she can't stand for the Presidency again then maybe Mayor of Buenos Aires, to evict the vile Macri and hopefully strike up a beautiful friendship with London under Mayor Galloway =) But whether she stands for anything in 2015 or not she'll be free to run again in 2019, hopefully with similar results to Michelle's recent comeback, and most importantly she says she'll pick her candidate for the next President so I can be pretty confident he'll be a good leftist like Timmerman etc, not an opportunist like Scioli or Massa. Interesting that the Moyanos are now openly backing candidates to her right - and people on here laughed when I mentioned the right wing trade union bureaucracy...

    #12 I saw about that on the news today - I thought could the piranhas have come from the Falklands, then I thought, nah, too cold!

    Dec 28th, 2013 - 01:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Why does the the “Mad Mastebater” come out of his cave periodically? Perhaps it is that time of the year to “choke his chicken” in honor of christina.

    Dec 28th, 2013 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    It would be nice if Cristina could be given four more years to complete the job - Argie-land is only half-destroyed.

    Dec 28th, 2013 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    17 Poppy

    I suspect that the Casa Rosada is blacked out and the other Troll staffers can't go online.

    Dec 28th, 2013 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    It's always good to talk to you, it would be better if a spent much more time answering your comments, than the comments of some reactionary who just insult me, in fact i regret wasting a lot of time with such mediocre people, that's why i decided not to answer the comments of people who insult me. I have never had any problem in talking to people who don't think like me, in fact most people here don't agree on my ideologies, but most them respect me, with the exception of some mediocre people, whose arguments are based on lies and insults.
    There are very little chances for a guy like macri to win the presidential elections in 2015, because his party is insignifficant in national terms, it is only powerful in buenos aires city. Beside, his ideological posture is too reactionary, that's why it will be very difficult for him to win the elections. Anyway i never underestimate adversaries, but i can't omit objetive facts like what i told you.
    On the other hand, politic projects can't depend on just on person, that's why the strategy she is doing now is correct, due to she needs to give space to other members of the cabinet, in order to show they can be also important politic leaders in the future, especially for 2015, what she is doing now is preparating her sussession.
    Maybe in 2017 or in 2017 she can be candidat for some charge, in some way i think it's obvious.
    Happy new year next week.

    Dec 28th, 2013 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #20 Thanks and happy new year to you too =) I'm not so worried about Macri becoming President, more about right of centre Peronists like Scioli and Massa (now backed by the right-wing union bureaucrats the Moyanos). But your right no project can be all about just one person, and it should be time for someone from the Cabinet to step forward (I certainly find the Ministers a lot more impressive on average than the provincial governors). While it seems the final decision is safe in Cristina's hands, who do you think would make a good candidate - I think Timmerman would be a good bet, for a number of reasons, but Kiccilof also seems like a rising star. As for Cristina's own future, 2017 isn't too far away in the grand scheme of things, though I think she did say in the past she would run for judge in 2015 - though that may have just been to wind up the opponents of giving the people any say on who become judges. And even if she doesn't go for any elected positions there's always the appointed ones - Cabinet Chief, or how about Ambassador to Britain =)

    Dec 28th, 2013 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    I pity the poor incumbant that has to take the reins after Cretina after she has finally brought Argentina to its knees. Who do you think will have the balls to turn Arg around, I can't think of anyone except probably the military, could be time again for them.

    Dec 28th, 2013 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    Its very interesting to observe the RG thought processes, in particular bigging up Gollum the failed Foreign Minister. He would be bound to continue the corrupt nonsensical policies of KFC taking Argentina even further into the abyss? If thats the best they can do..... Simply unbelievable... #22 , it will be the military at some point - they will be back in turntable mode 33rpm!

    Dec 28th, 2013 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Psst... I have news for you two.
    It isn't yours.
    It never was.
    Nothing of it, you are merely passengers.


    Dec 28th, 2013 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #22 &23 I am not sure of what your connection is to Argentina and if you ever get there. The buzz in BA province and in particular in BsAs city is something is going on. Many people silently think there will be no election in 2015. True or not that is the feeling and that Milani will take the reins. We shall all see what happens in the not too distant future.

    Dec 28th, 2013 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    25. Their feeble attempt at “democracy” has clearly failed. I bet there are lots and lots of people yearning for the security and stability the military would bring back to the country.

    Dec 29th, 2013 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MagnusMaster

    What is it with Peronists and their fascination for repeating history? Anyway, Milani isn't to be trusted.

    Dec 29th, 2013 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Like a bad skipping record they will repeat themselves. Milani will prove to be kirchner's version of Videla.

    Dec 29th, 2013 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I've said for a long time CFK is like Isabel Peron.
    She has ruined that country, again.

    Dec 30th, 2013 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    One can really see the desperation mount with the trolls responses here. They are quick with the insult gun and short on refutable substance.

    Dec 30th, 2013 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cornelius

    How can Argentinians take the abuse their government is giving them Argentinians are vociferous but when it comes to take on their government they are useless they talk and talk and talk bla, bla, and no action.
    Their corrupt president is taking 3 times the size of Manhattan in land !
    They need to change the name of the country my suggestion is Fernandilandia

    Dec 30th, 2013 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    There is a lot that goes into the mindset of an Argentine......even the decent ones. Most of the decent one's feel defeated from the corruption and abuse of power. There is corruption everywhere but Argentina is the benchmark.
    You have a majority population that survives on government handouts and the remainder are plundered in taxes so they seek way to avoid them. Kirchnerism can never survive without the handouts and the spending is keeping inflation where it is coupled shortage of goods and high demand.

    All of these obscure and outlandish policies all go back to one reason and one reason avoid paying their debt. Who ever heard of financing for U$ through trade surpluses, I long can it last without imports to create something to export? The soy is not going to carrying them.

    Dec 30th, 2013 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    I don't like scioli either, anyway i praise his loyalty, but he is actually a conservative who has good relations with some reactionary sectors of the politic scenario. Anyway, if i have to vote him, in order to avoid the triunph of neoliberal candidats, i'll do it. Although he has a conservative ideology, his administration shows good results in social terms in some sectors, beside, i praise also the fact that he is not neoliberal like macri.
    In the case of massa, i read the comments of some consultants who say he has a high popularity among the different leaders of opponent politic parties, but in my opinion i think it is still too soon to say who might become the next president in 2015, because we still have 17 months ahead for paso elections (primary elections), and many things can happen.
    I think kirchnerist candidats will be chosen in primary elections, in my opinion, i see capitanich as a good candidat, or governor scioli, kicillof, or governor sergio urribarry from entre rios. We still have a long time to wait, all these are just hypothesis. Happy good year.

    Dec 31st, 2013 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MagnusMaster

    @33 “Although he has a conservative ideology, his administration shows good results in social terms in some sectors”

    What results? He did nothing but propaganda and taking credit for what the mayors did. His administration is a disaster.

    Dec 31st, 2013 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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