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Falklands Daily Telegraph poll: majority of votes came from Argentina

Thursday, January 16th 2014 - 08:37 UTC
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The Daily Telegraph stated on Wednesday that two thirds of the votes in the Falklands/Malvinas poll came from Argentina. The British newspaper argued that the Argentine vote-flow followed “a social media campaign”. Read full article

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  • Monkeymagic

    But Alicia Castro said that the poll showed a “mood swing” in the UK....daft cow!

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bongo

    Oh what a surprise.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 09:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    So did Vestige.
    I did try to warn him.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 09:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    LOL! Exactly as we said. Ms. Castro must feel like a complete plonker this morning.

    You have to feel sorry for the K's minions spending so much of their time voting.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    PWNED something chronic.

    Almost like The Telegraph set Argentina up.

    What is even funnier is that on an associated Gibraltar vote with over 995,000 votes; 5,0000 came from Spain's ministry of defence.

    So seems Brits do support British Gibraltar and Falklands.

    LOLLING

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    Funny about the 245 votes for Argentina in the UK, wonder how many were from actual Brits - not that it matters.
    Shame the more applicable option wasn't on the poll i.e. “Or should we just leave it up to the Falkland Islanders to decide?”

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    And let's not forget voted-out former Senator Daniel Filmus, head of the Secretariat for Willy Waving Relating to the Malvinas, and a man clearly on top of his brief, who stated :

    “it is quite clear that a considerable part of British public opinion does not support its Government, in its decision of refusing to negotiate and to abide by United Nations resolutions”.

    http://www.telam.com.ar/english/notas/201401/1400-filmus-our-claim-on-malvinas-is-not-just-based-on-a-british-newspaper-poll.html

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Orbit

    Hilarious... they are such a bunch of amateurs. Nice one Tinman, will you be reporting this as a success to head office ? And Alicia, you are a one aren't you. Ahhhh, did the bigger boys make you look silly. There there.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Swiss Bob

    Anglotino,

    Yes that was very funny, you can just see them being ordered to vote on the Telegraph poll, not that any of them would actually be able to read the article but vote they did!

    No self awareness at all as to what clowns they would look.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porkchop

    Oh dear oh dear. Yet another Argentine fail..

    I have taken the liberty once again, of emailing the Argentine embassy here in London to point out another of their mistakes.

    At least Think got it right for once in the sense this is nothing but a game. A childish and immature game but yet one Argentina still can't manage to win. Love it!

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    ha ha ha
    and how silly does this make argies bloggers,

    [ QUICK ]
    Change the subject..

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    Will the Argentine media have the guts to run this story that shows yet another major lie from their government?

    However, well done to the Telegraph. Nicely set trap, and the Malvinista's ran into it eagerly.

    The Falkland Islands will remain free of the tyranny of Argentina dictatorship FOREVER.

    Gibraltar will remain free of the tyranny of Spanish dictatorship FOREVER.

    Now the Malvinista's will now try to distract with irrelevant nonsense or some 'whataboutery'.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    6 Redrow (#) Jan 16th, 2014 - 09:32 am

    You might be surprised. There is a strange phenomenon with a small number of people when all they know about this particular subject is that on a map the FI are closer to Argentina than they are to the UK. So some of them think its clear cut and obvious and the fact that they know absolutely nothing else about it appears to be no impediment at all to them actually having and giving an opinion.

    I got into a conversation about it once, to be fair it didn't last long. She had been quite clear about her opinion, 'just give them back to Argentina' she said. Of course I said that you can't give something back to somebody if they never had it to begin with and she looked confused. I asked her just how interested she was and she shrugged and said that she couldn't care less and I had to ask her what the deuce was she doing with an opinion in the first place if a) She didn't know anything about it it and b) She didn't care anyway..........

    It's fascinating but these people are in a minority and most people think again when you give them a grain of truth.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    I wonder if the 'truth'will now be getting a full page spread in the B A Herald. I doubt it, a nations built on lies is very fearful of the truth.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @13 Furry-Fat-Feck

    I've come across similar people. To be fair I did have some that were ignorant or believed the Argentine lies, who did change their minds when given the actual facts, or came to realise that there are actually people living on the Islands, and that their community is actually older than the Republic of Argentina.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    all this mess because of a poll?
    as they say, you have to be gracious in defeat

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GALlamosa

    So effectively Filmuses first two acts in his new office are a) to fiddle an opinion poll, claim a great victory and lie through his teeth to the Argentine people; and b) declare publicly what we have known for a long time, but Tinman has denied, thay they are trying to destroy the Falklands economy.

    Expect more of the same, with no concrete results except giving us ever increasing ammunition to persuade the international community that Argentina is completely in the wrong in persuing the colonisation of the Falkland Islands.

    I for one am very happy that Filmus was discarded by his electorate. The man is a plonker, and will carry on CFK's good work in making Argentina ever less credible.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    No surprises - although a little pressure on the Telegraph to publish the breakdown helped :-)

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    @16

    No, its about a very basic principal of truth and lies. The Argentine government sold this poll to the Argentine people of front page spreads of newspapers as truth, knowing full well it was complete lies.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    17 GALlamosa (#) Jan 16th, 2014 - 11:10 am

    No doubt about it. The man might not be a complete arse hole, just a semi colon but did he really state categorically that his intention is to 'strangle the Falkland Islands economy'?

    If so then are the British government going to bring it up at the UN? Afterall, doing it but denying it is one thing but stating this as an aim is something else entirely. Although I suppose that the Argentine defence minister did at one point state that the only thing stopping another Argentine invasion was the presence of a robust British defence. Maybe it is just a series of gaffs on the part of a monumentally inept government.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    I am pleased to report that the Buenos Aires Herald has now reported the truth on this poll, they must be as sick to death of their lying government as everyone else is.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    19
    in terms of percentage, nobody here reads the b.a. herald, the daily telegraph, etc.
    so it is not a front page news.
    nobody really cares about it.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    “Gollum...gollum.. sssss - I still wants it precious... wail...Nassty Telegraph, they tricked us preciousss, made our ambasssador look like a ssstupid prat, and that nice Ssenor Filmussss tooo sssss....! Smeagol says, ”but you tried to trick them by getting gullible fools to vote in the poll?“ ”Bah, but they tricked usss again, they are clever, very clever, cunning too, and we still haven't got it, don't think we's ever going to gets it ...boo hoo...wail. - my preciouss ”

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @22 Your Ambassador Alicia Castro does and went as far as to use the statistics to try to claim the British public supported Argentina's claim to the Falklands. So, your government DOES care.

    I wonder how many of the 245 votes cast in favour of Argentina could be traced back to the I.P. of Argentine Embassy in London. Ms Castro needs something do do.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porkchop

    @23 Faz - Your comment sure made me giggle.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    The Argentinian posters here, the Argentinian press and politicians voiced the same opinion - the British support Argentinian sovereignty - and the had great regard for the accuracy Telegraph poll.

    Now the truth is known that the majority that voted in the poll were Argentinian, they now all tell us no Argentinians paid any attention to the result.

    Mr. Cedron is a typical example
    “in terms of percentage, nobody here reads the b.a. herald, the daily telegraph, etc.
    so it is not a front page news.
    nobody really cares about it.”
    His is a strange remark as it would appear at least 18,000 Argentinians read the article in the Telegraph.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    “His is a strange remark as it would appear at least 18,000 Argentinians read the article in the Telegraph”
    18.000 out of 44 million people is not too much, isnt it?

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    18,000 brainwashed Malvinista morons is an accurate descriptions. 10,000 invasion force isn't a big number to try and colonise 3,000 peaceful unarmed people is it? But... you did it ! Now you are trying every opportunity to harrass the Islanders and whilst still suffering humiliating failure, you keep doing it...are you masochists or just plain stupid?

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    27. Considering 50% of Argentina's population only went through 6th grade, what could be the % of population that is fluent in English? Let's say .05% to be generous, 220,000, let's say 60% of them have daily internet, 132,000, and 30% care about the Falklands 39,000, and 50% take the time to vote. Lo and behold there's your 18K
    Darn good % actually.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    @29 Based on your comments just well educated people would have the right to vote either in Argentina or in the UK. This was the basic concept of greek democracy. We can add that only those who have properties can be citizens legally able to vote and have full rights.

    As any poll in the media the information available is not complete so people don't vote freely. Do the people in the UK know that the “Falkland Fortress” cost GBP 400 million per year?

    This is a total amount of GBP 12.000 million since year 1982....quite a figure....if people in the UK are quite aware of this they might vote differently in a referendum.

    I bet the “hard liners” don't want to get this figure know by people. Those who pay the bill must have the right to decide about the use of their money.

    The very same is applicable in Argentina. Are people there informed about the cost of the current actions to recover the islands? How many new businesses are not being done with the UK due to the curent diplomatic actions?

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @13 Have you considered going to visit CFK? Might you have the same success? If you could get her mind off laying back, spreading her legs to 180 degrees and getting shagged by Obama.
    @16 It's not a mess. It demonstrates that argieland lies consistently. How can you tell when an argie is lying? Many answers. Lips moving. Writing. Typing. Thinking. Although that last one is controversial. Difficult to find an argie that can think.
    @22 Then why are you “commenting”? The fact is that argieland is an inconsequential, insignificant, irrelevant minor annoyance. We have to be vigilant so that you can be assured of your destruction. Just think about this “poll”. 67% of the “votes” from argieland. Thus demonstrating that argie brainwashing works on the ignorant and stupid, argies know that their case is non-existent, argies can get extremely low in their desperation. 18,216 votes from argieland. Wow! Wonder how much Timerman paid them? But here's an important thought. We know about the concept of persuading another country that the majority of its population favours a particular course. Do you actually believe that anyone in Britain is going to believe that 74% of US think the Falklands should belong to argieland? Have you paid adequate reparations for killing 255 British servicemen and 3 Falkland Islanders yet? Call that £2 billion. Have you paid for the mine clearance yet? Call that £5 billion. Have you paid for the Royal Navy vessels you sank yet? Call that £120 million. Have you paid for the illegal invasion yet? Let's call it a nice round £10 billion.
    You should care. The money is less important than the lives.
    But make no mistake. The world is watching. The world is keeping track of argie lies. And the good news is that 98% of the world doesn't believe a word argies say. The most important countries in the world aren't prepared to see your cesspit given any loans.
    Your “diversions” don't work. And we've just proved it!

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Right from the beginning it was said that the 74 % in favour of handing over the Islands (as if THAT were possible !) was distorted...and not that it's going to change anything, but it's nice to know.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    28.
    according to your answer, the plain stupid is you.

    29
    where did you get those rates?
    from one of the prestigious universities you have in the falklands?
    the second level literacy rate here is 89% and 84%.

    the links are in spanish.
    i forgot you will not understand a word.
    http://www.unicef.org/spanish/infobycountry/argentina_statistics.html
    http://www.unicef.org/spanish/infobycountry/argentina_statistics.html

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • saphira

    @30 did you pluck that figure out of the air, the cost is as follows
    2010/11=£75 million
    2009/10=£73 million
    2008/09=£70 million
    2007/08=£67 million
    2006/07=£65 million

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    @34

    There are plenty of sites on the web, even from those (“hard liners”) who suport the current status of the islands, that show that the real budget of the base is GBP 400 million per year.

    I even read and article (from a british source) that informed that the actual budget is more important and is being hide applyng some expenses to other “accounts”.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    31.
    the majority of the argentinians don't care about those 2 pieces of rock
    nobody gives a shit except the govt and a tiny group of people.
    giving economical support to 3000 islanders, like the uk is doing now, would be the worst business ever.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • saphira

    Those figures are from a Goverment paper for all parties MP's

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Evil Colonialist Pirate

    Surprise, surprise... lol :)

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Justthefacts

    Good article by the telegraph until they said the islands have been British since 1833. Some history lessons focusing on pre 1833 may be required.
    .

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    @37

    I found very different figures in the web even in conservative sites that promotes the current status. You can also check them.

    Current inflation figure from the Argentine Government is less than 10% and dolar cost AR$ 6.6.....

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    29. Those rates are as believable as INDEC Inflation rates. I ran into a lot of people who could barely read or write when I lived there.
    I had 2 household staff that went only through 6 grade and it is VERY VERY COMMON.
    It is a myth Rgs are well educated. Maybe they were in the 50-60s but not any longer.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    The Falklands is a grat military training ground and has numerous battle sites so the instructors can show on the real terrain exactly how we defeated the Argies, here, here and here.. And, its a great place for the Gurkhas to practice, lots of rocks for them to sharpen their big knives ;-) You have to factor that in. Cost is irelavent to most Brits, what we want is to know that Argies are at bay cying in their beer.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Benson

    “Do the people in the UK know that the “Falkland Fortress” cost GBP 400 million per year? ”
    As Saphira said I've not seen that figure before.
    Out of the money that is spent how much would be cut if there weren't any forces in the Falklands? Their wages would still have to be paid, they'd still have to have quarters, they'd still have to be equiped. Transport and shipping costs would be one place that they would save money (I'm sure there are others but that was off the top of my head) but most of the costs would still be there wherever they are in the world. As someone mentioned in another thread the Falklands are also one of the few places where they can do tri-services excercises and can practice low flying.
    I have always said though that the only real reason I have wanted oil exploration is so that we can pay the UK for our defense, then we will be completly self sufficient economically.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    41 yankeeboy (#) Jan 16th, 2014 - 01:51 pm

    Well the state of the governing class and the diplomatic corps might a clear indication of the educational median in Argentina. But what can you expect when state indoctrination is de ri·gueur?

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    “I had 2 household staff that went only through 6 grade and it is VERY VERY COMMON. ”
    you had 2 household staff in the shanty town?
    weird

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    @43

    “Out of the money that is spent how much would be cut if there weren't any forces in the Falklands? Their wages would still have to be paid, they'd still have to have quarters, they'd still have to be equiped”.

    This is not the way expenses are estimated. If you have a person working in Purchasing he belongs to this area headcount, if the same person changes to Engineering the headcount is changed.

    So, if troops, Thypoons, ships, etc, are deployed in FI they are part of the cost of this military base. If the eame resources would be changed to, let's say, Gibraltar, they would be part of Gibraltar defense budget.

    Others say “British people are willing to spend this amount of money to defend freedom”. Who knows that? Have British people been asked directly, and in an explicit way, the cost of the base? Have they been asked about other options of using this amount of money?

    In additon, I must admit that yankeeboy is right, after dacades of ignoring education the cultural level of Argentina is not mutch different from the rest of LATAM. There was a time were Argentina was pretty good in education thanks to Law 1420 but this is something from the past...

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    @36: Look Paul, we keep hearing about how most people in Argentina are not represented by the obsessive Malvanistas we see here that your government needs when it's time to distract from their messes. Well where are they? I really DO believe they exist. But they are silent in comparison to them. This issues that doesn't matter seems to people all defensive for something that doesn't matter..

    Bad polices flop as soon as enough people see people around them with the same view that such policies are awful. And that critical mass is probably greater than a Group of 17. Where are the 18, 19, 20, 200, 2000? Letter writing? Viral Youtube Videos? Protests outside of Wash-up Filmus's window desk? Where are the people saying use that budget to build bridges with Stanley rather than resting the Islanders like a 19th province or a stolen East Prussia but an NGST that is a colony less and less by the day and a potential trading partner that deserve respect especially after the crimes in 1982 that you STILL celebrate on coins and rage against whenever they assert any free will -- more free will than your government will ever afford. Your current government's stance makes all of you look BAD. Really really BAD. Do something about it. Please prove it to us, really we want to see the street take diplomacy back here.

    So Paul (and PGergman), WHEN are we going to see the sensible and forward-thinking Argentine street demand that this oft-repeated and ever-transparent ploy of your governments end? We all saw last year that once again your government ran from Resolution 2065 in February. They aren't serious about meeting the islanders or the requirements of the resolutions they lie about.

    So when ARE you going to put their feet to the fire and tell them to move relations with the Islands forward *constructively* for 2014 for the good of all parties. We're waiting, really you are. And you know who and where to call to open doors rather than slam them shut.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    Pgerman,you need to get your facts right and stop listening to Peronist shit after all Argentina is THE ONLY country to have been censored by THE IMF for TELLING LIES, here's the truth about the defence budget of The Falklands-sorry to piss you of.

    ”Ministry of Defence spending of £64million in the South Atlantic will fall to £61million in the coming financial year. It will then rise to £63million in 2013-14.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Benson

    @46 pgerman

    I know how budgets work I'm talking about actual cost to the taxpayer not government paper shuffling. I'm talking about costs that wouldn't just appear in a different budget if the troops weren't needed in the Falklands.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    @ pgerman, You have no idea mate what your talking about you sound more stupid with every sentence proof you listen and take in the lies from your corrupt governmant

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Eddieposted

    @46
    The British aren't concerned about £60 million a year spent to defend the Falklands, a friendly and loyal overseas territory of the UK which provides excellent training facilities, but they are concerned about the £10 billion+ per year in overseas aid handed out to poor hostile countries like argentina.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    @48

    I have stoped listening peronist lies many years ago. Don't worry about this. I'm well know in this iste for being anti-personit.

    I just wanted to show you that Governmnets lie. If needed they lie, it doesn't matter where. In addition, there always groups that want to hide information from people and voters. It's part of modern democracies esence.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    42
    That old chestnut again...there are numerous Scottish Islands with exactly the same conditions as the Falklands...

    If the UK didn't have all these colonial relics they wouldn't need bases all over the globe...How many countries in the world appear to manage without them...are part of NATO..which amounts to hiding behind the might of the Yanks...
    Get rid of them all...save Billions...

    If people want to live in isolated communities...it's their choice, they should not expect the UK public to fund their isolationist whims. They should also not expect the UK public to die for them.
    Do the right thing...if you think you are British...Full integration...
    If you think you are something else.....Independence and apply to the UN for protection...

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    52 pgerman (#) Jan 16th, 2014 - 02:46 pm

    In post number 48 Andy 65 refutes your claim. How would you answer him?

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    @ 50 Andy65

    This is not the very first time I have discussed about FI military defense budget and every single time I did it I was insulted. It seems to me that it is an issue that really “bothers”.....but it's part of the “awful true”.

    Anyway, its' quite easy to insult people using a computer with no name.

    “The British aren't concerned about £60 million a year spent to defend the Falklands, a friendly and loyal overseas territory of the UK which provides excellent training facilities”. Who knows? If they haven't been asked directly about it? How do you know? Are you “their voice?”

    This is like when peronist people say “we don't care if the current attitude make us loose money and businesses”..have they asked in the tourist industry? Have they been asking in unemployeed people in Tierra del Fuego?

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    #53 Are you saying Scottish Islands are colonial relics, or are you suggesting that we use them as firing ranges?

    I think many British peoples view is that in the face of bullying from various brands of Latinos you should stand up for peoples rights. That is the heart of the thing and the money doesn't matter. Its the same for St Helena , £20m for an airport, it has no strategic value but it does make the inhabitants lives better. And, the Falklands does have strategic value and will probably become self supporting, and pay back to Britain what we have spent over the last 30 years. Supporting the Falkland Islanders is moraly right and makes financial sense.
    It would make no difference to LAs attitude to the UK if we handed over soveriegnty anyway. Cannot see where you are coming from?

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    self supporting?
    build more schools, universities, get more instruction and in 1 or 2 generations you can talk.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doggy Rap

    Argentine birdbrains have exposed them selves as such once more in comments in the thread “Active online poll from “The Telegraph” shows Falklands should be under Argentine sovereignty” http://en.mercopress.com/2014/01/09/active-online-poll-from-the-telegraph-shows-falklands-should-be-under-argentine-sovereignty

    Can anyone be so gullible outside North Korea, Venezuela and Argentina?

    paulcedron “it seems the readers of the telegraph are pretty intelligent then” [1]

    Vestige: “Very good to see some open mindedness and enlightened thinking around this issue by the G.B public” [2]
    so_far : “after all...i need to recognise that blah, blah, blah”

    [1] http://en.mercopress.com/2014/01/09/active-online-poll-from-the-telegraph-shows-falklands-should-be-under-argentine-sovereignty
    [2] http://en.mercopress.com/2014/01/09/active-online-poll-from-the-telegraph-shows-falklands-should-be-under-argentine-sovereignty

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Don Alberto

    The Telegraph poll has a lot in common with democracy, Argentine style.

    1. Stuff the ballot box
    2. The government received 102.6 percent of the votes, and the opposition on 8 percent

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    I see the malvinistas have tried to change the thread, now plumping once again for what it costs to protect the Falklands, instead of concentrating on the article, which was a bogus poll, sold to the stupid Argentines as fact.

    By the way, we give 1.4 billion in aid to India a year, as a British tax payer I and many other Brits would be much happier if that money was given the Falkland Islands to protect them instead, so 400 million is a pittance.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    @59 And before things are found out, it is a triumph of democracy with major policy implications to consider.. And afterwards, “oh... means nothing... move along.” Geeze.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porkchop

    57 paulcedron

    Funny, your comment reminds me of a joke.

    (Argentina) Knock, knock.

    (UK) Who's there?

    (Argentina) Argentina.

    (UK) Build more schools, universities, get more 'instruction' and in 1 or 2 generations perhaps we can talk.

    FYI - Argentina doing anything and everything it can to not pay it's debts and in addition, fudging all it's official figures, does not make Argentina a self supporting country. On the contrary, it makes Argentina a liar, a thief and a laughing stock struggling to be taken seriously by anybody.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    @56

    “I think many British peoples view is that in the face of bullying from various brands of Latinos you should stand up for peoples rights. That is the heart of the thing and the money doesn't matter”...how do you know? Are you sure about it? Have they been asked directly about it? Are you “their voice?”

    “We would die defending the FI !!!!”......yes sure.....have the relatives of the fallen people been asked? Have the fallen people been asked?

    What about the Argenine Government attitude towards FI?
    Have Argentine people that work in the tourist industry been asked ? Have the “malvineros” been asking in unemployed people in Tierra del Fuego? As far as I know those who promote “Gaucho Rivero Law” in Tierra del Fuego are not from the Province..they are people from the Continent.

    “We would die to recover the FI !!!!”....yes sure....have the relatives of the fallen people been asked? Have the fallen people been asked?

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  • golfcronie

    The FALKLANDERS have already said that when the oil starts flowing 2017/2018 then out of the revenues they will be paying for the defence of the islands, I don't know if they will be paying historical costs or not but I believe they will pay.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doggy Rap

    @ 4 ElaineB
    psycopaths don't feel guilt, including those who have asked 'chickenpox or pasta'?

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    “The FALKLANDERS have already said that when the oil starts flowing...”
    cows will fly

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    @ 6 Redrow

    More than 100,000 Argentine tourists visit Great Britain a year.
    It seems that as many as 245 (1 in 408) of them feel that the Falkland Islands should become Argentine.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    @63, like I've been saying PG. Look around you. For example, a glaring example at that: Islanders gladly volunteered their position on “The Sovereignty Question” last year. They were very articulate and succinct and it has been heard loud and clear no matter how certain people want to deny that they have a right to say anything. The C24 “Great Blue Father” didn't ask (and after Tokealeu, I really don't seeing them doing much more asking along that vein). London didn't even ask but were happy to support them in the process. Buenos Aires doesn't think they have the right to say anything but “Yes” to them so there was no point of them asking since they have heard the same thing for years. The Islanders took the initiative, grass roots at the NGST scale, and they drove the message home to anyone who would hear it and those who wouldn't (and wee know THEY heard it because BOY did THEY pitch a fit about it!). I'd argue that you have some grass roots activism to do yourself.

    There are plenty of examples worldwide for guidance of all types and tones of civic engagement. Give it a go! Like I have been saying, you may be surprised that it's more than 17 people that that will agree with you.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vulcanbomber

    @ 64 golfcronie

    Exactly, and indeed, i think we can trust the falklands to honour their word and pay unlike a country on the same continental shelf that always fail to pay debts

    given a choice, i know which one i would believe

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  • Doggy Rap

    Exposed birdbrain Paul Ignorant Cedron beleives that flowing oil can make cows fly (in #66) - poor dear!

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    They should know, YPF ( YES PIGS FLY ) not Spanglish but nevermind Eh!

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    #65

    This must be a contemporary variation of the French Revolution “Cake or Death?”

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doggy Rap

    @ 29 yankeeboy wrote:
    “Considering 50% of Argentina's population only went through 6th grade”

    When one reads pgerman's post # 30 it becomes obvious thet pgerman didn't even make it so far up the education ladder.

    Your calculation of how many Argentines who would **be able to** vote ctr. how many actually voted, in some inexplicable way becomes some gibberish about who “have the right to vote” - un cerebro del pajero (p)german = birdbrain.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #63
    The British public know about our involvement in the Falklands.
    It's not a matter that is a frequently discussed. If there was widespread dissent then it would be reported in the press or BBC news.
    The cost of the armed forces deployed there is just a general cost to the running of the services. If the troops, aircraft and ships were returned then there would be a cost to house them and their equipment.
    Anyway, it has to be assumed that the British public has given tacit approval to the state of affairs. Many still remember 1982. Has the leopard changed it's spots?
    Think of it as an insurance policy. We pay the premiums just in case.
    If you are British, then you are entitled to agree/disagree with the cost.
    If you are not British, then it is none of your business and you have no say in the matter.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Don Alberto

    @ 40 pgerman writes:

    “I found very different figures in the web even in conservative sites that promotes the current status. You can also check them.”

    You “forgot” to provide a source, so how can we check your claim?

    @ 30 pgerman

    “Do the people in the UK know that the “Falkland Fortress” cost GBP 400 million per year?”

    From the same secret source as above?

    Argentine INDEC truth is that the “Falkland Fortress” costs £ 60 trillion a month - or sum'fin'

    - - -

    yankeeboy writes in # 41 “I had 2 household staff that went only through 6 grade and it is VERY VERY COMMON.”

    In shops in Argentine it is common, that if they have to add 12 pesos and 10 pesos, they need a calculator - EXTREMELY well educated people, hrm (I lived in Argentina for almost six years and know Arg from more than 12 years of travel).

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  • Conqueror

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  • Doggy Rap

    @ 46 pgerman

    “Others say “British people are willing to spend this amount of money to defend freedom”. Who knows that? Have British people been asked directly, and in an explicit way, the cost of the base? Have they been asked about other options of using this amount of money? ”

    First rate stupidity.

    Have the British people been asked directly, and in an explicit way whether they want to spend £2,633 on repairing Mill Lane in Waltham on the Wolds?

    Have the British people been asked directly, and in an explicit way whether they want to spend £22,000 on a bird protection zone near Llandudno?

    Have the British people been asked directly, and in an explicit way whether they want to spend £1.4 billion helping India?

    I wonder if pgerman is identical to paulcedron? they share some weird forms of reasoning, and seem to be equally intelligent.

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  • paulcedron

    “and seem to be equally intelligent”
    that means more intelligent than you?
    that´s for sure

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doggy Rap

    @ 78 Paul Ignorant Cedron

    who has no arguments at all and so claims his IQ of 88 to be above average - the poor dear.

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  • paulcedron

    touched a nerve?
    as i said before, the islanders need more education
    in your case, well... that would be useless.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @36

    “giving economical support to 3000 islanders,”

    The Falkland Islands do not need Argentine economic support-it is Argentina NOT the Falkland Islanders who would gain the money with trade i.e in this unlikely scenario- (as the FIs have alternative countries to trade with) Argentina supplies services=Falkland Islanders pay money for those services-in $ £ pesos whatever-no problem.

    @66

    “The FALKLANDERS have already said that when the oil starts flowing...”
    cows will fly”

    In WW2, the Falkland Islands (not a wealthy country then) without prompting or request from the UK, donated £10,000 plus the cost of ten Spitfires that flew with the Islands flag during the Battle of Britain, to the British people.

    Once the oil flows, don't you worry, the Islanders will pay their way, that's why they attract foreign investment.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doggy Rap

    How “touched a nerve”?

    I have noted you as the poor ignorant guy, you have been documented to be again and again, same as I myself have documented you to be ignorant.

    You are the typic la viveza criolla, making up lies as you go, and too much criollo to even be ashamed when your lies are exposed.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    go back to college, poor little retarded.
    you don't have colleges there in the rocks?
    well, go back with your sheep

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Paul, You are barely write in English you shouldn't be calling anyone a retard.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    73 doggy

    “When one reads pgerman's post # 30 it becomes obvious thet pgerman didn't even make it so far up the education ladder.”

    To be fair, Doggy - pgerman is always polite and one of the more reasonable Argentine bloggers.
    He lives in Vancouver and says he is an Engineeer, graduated from U of BA.

    I have no reason to doubt him.

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  • golfcronie

    @83
    there you go again, if you cannot have a debate, you then start being derogative.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    “Paul, You are barely write in English you shouldn't be calling anyone a retard”
    well, you have said you lived here for 5 (five) years and you dont even know a word in spanish.
    talking about retards...

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    73 doggy

    On the other hand, “Paul ignorant Cedron” is an indoctrinated child with no future.
    Bitter bitter, better blame somebody for his misfortune or laziness.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dab14763

    £400,000,000 pa /63,000,000 apprx UK population
    = £6.35 apprx pa per person
    Oh what a terrible burden on the British people.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Again the argies try to split the pound,

    after all, would not the nasty argies,
    pay for their military if it got the islands,

    or is your military so exceptional it does the job for free .lol

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    troy tempestilent
    no misfortune here.
    and nobody could be lazier than an islander.
    remember that you are just a bunch of parasites of the (real) british taxpayers.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    @ paulcedron Never mind when your delightful;l botox Queen goes and joins her thieving dead one eyed husband perhaps things will get better for you that's if you actually live their ,also can you confirm that kirchner's GERMAN/DUTCH SOUNDING mother, Ofelia Wilhelm as had her Uterus removed which is being reported on Yahoo and when was this woman inplanted into South America???

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    andy65
    i pretty much agree with the first part of your post

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    @ paulcedron You say you hate Kirchners but you think just like them your brainwashed from an early age,are you an in plant also if so where from.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Defending the liberty of those oppressed by fascism, especially if they are our friends, is priceless.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    Thought a sanatorium was a mad hose but in Argentina it's where you go to get your uterus removed as stated below

    President Cristina Kirchner remained from the early morning until after 16 in the Otamendi sanatorium , where she visited her mother , Ofelia Wilhelm , who had to be operated from the uterus.

    The head of state emergency travelled by helicopter from the Quinta de Olivos to the Government House and from there went to Otamendi sanatorium to visit her mother , according to the NATION has learned from people close to the head of state . Cristina 's mother was performed a hysterectomy today .

    Past 1630 , the president withdrew from the clinic in an official vehicle .

    During this procedure , the doctor may remove the entire uterus or just part of it , in addition to the fallopian tubes and ovaries.

    Not officially informed about the activities of the first president , scheduled for the day today , nor details of what happened.

    The health

    According to the paper reported Clarín , Wilhelm was hospitalized yesterday for the second time in less than 10 days.

    Last week , the mother of Cristina , 84 , had entered the sanatorium Otamendi for a gynecological study including a biopsy , according to information provided by the health center done .

    Such hospitalization occurred within the first day of the president after the three week break that was taken in the south. That day , Cristina turned his usual route and headed in an official car to the Otamendi to visit.

    According to data published by Clarín also the President accompanied his mother for an hour and left just after 22.30 .

    DON'T YOU JUST LOVE THESE SPANISH SOUNDING NAMES.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    “Thought a sanatorium was a mad hose but in Argentina it's where you go to get your uterus removed as stated below”

    you are not the brightest of the bunch, are you?
    do you know what etymology is?
    have you ever heard about latin?
    then, try to relate the word sanatorio (spanish) and the word sanare (latin)
    sanare: cure, heal
    http://www.latin-dictionary.net/definition/34049/sano-sanare-sanavi-sanatus

    what´s the average level of instruction in the islands? kindergarten?

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    Based on the lovely and friendly comments I am receiving it's quite clear that I touched a very sensitive nerve.

    I would love to see attitudes that follow your comments...take for instance that one day the FI Government announces: “since we are rich, and for us GBP 400 million is nothing, from now onwards we are going to fly directly to London. We are all happy to pay such expensive non-stop trips FI-London. All First Class afforded by the UK Governement”.

    Why begging for Argentine air space having such a big wallet?

    Ahhh.....money...money....it rules the World....

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    @ paulcedron Squatting in Argentina with power cuts, price controls rampant inflation and the inability to buy dollar's I would say I was a bright as a button with all my freedoms and wealth compared to yours, and NO learning or knowing Latin would be of no help to me these days.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Pgerman

    You haven't touched a nerve at all.

    You comments are ignorant, and stupid.

    Firstly, in 1982 Britain defended the Falklands with 255 of its service men's lives. This is a cost unmeasurable against your 400million a year, or the more likely and accurate 60million a year.

    However, despite that massive cost, defending the Falkland Islanders liberty from fascism, was seen as a price worth paying by a Massive majority of the UK populous. Some even claim it to be a deciding factor in the 1983 general election.

    Blaming the islanders for their defence cost is like blaming a rape victim or a child for the actions of Jimmy Saville. The islanders defence costs are simply the fault of Argentina.

    If they were 100 times that, we'd still do it, and still do every year.

    We spent billions defending European Allies from the fascist threat in 1940s, spending a tiny % of that to protect our South Atlantic brothers is neither here nor there.

    You are of course correct. When the Falkland Islanders have the money to balance the costs of their defence with the MoD, they have committed to doing exactly that. I am sure most British people would be content with that position too.

    The cost of protecting the islands is more than money, something perhaps you don't understand.

    Think equally doesn't understand it, he believes if he can raise, in his words, the cost per Kepler, to a significantly high figure, Britain will walk.

    We won't.....sorry you find that so hard to understand.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    @ pgerman Do you understand the armed forces based on The Falklands, the 4 Eurofighters have not been recruited or bought to defend the Islands they are all part of the British defence forces and equipment,if they were not on The Falklands they would be some where else just like we have bases in Germany and Cyprus.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    BT made a small fortune.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doggy Rap

    @ 83 Paul Ignorant Cedron writes:

    “go back to college, poor little retarded.”

    I assume you mean “poor little retard”?

    and in his deep ignorance Paul I. C. continues:

    “you don't have colleges there in the rocks?”

    The nearest rock is several hundred miles away, and on my island we have one university among top 50, another among top 100 and a third among top 150 - the best Argentina can show is 1 (one) uni at no. 209

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    @ Brasileiro Ask your momma to explain to you what the article means

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    @103, Jiminy Freakin' Christmas, Brasileiro, read the original story and show some sense of reading comprehension. If that doesn't work they even had pie charts with flags painted over them so you can tell whose who without even reading a legend, and who doesn't love pie.

    In “England” (i.e., the UK) where the poll was held, The Falklands are British. Only by fascists from Argentina flooding the poll trying to relive every failure they have had with the islands (which is uh... pretty much every single try they've had with the islands) was their long coveted Poland and East Prussia theirs.

    But most importantly, in The Falklands, the Falklanders, who are the ONLY people whose opinion matters, want to be and ARE for now with Britain, and as such the Falklanders are free.

    And there is absolutely NOTHING you can do about it.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (43) Kelper Mr.Benson

    You say….:
    “As Saphira said I've not seen that figure before.” (£ 400 million per year for the “Falkland Fortress”)
    I say….:
    Pleeeeeeeeeeeease…. Mr. W.. (oops) Benson

    You say…:
    ”Out of the money that is spent how much would be cut if there weren't any forces in the Falklands? Their wages would still have to be paid, they'd still have to have quarters, they'd still have to be equiped…….
    I say….:
    Not if Whitehall applies the same system in Malvinas as they applied under their recent troop withdrawal from Germany…...
    Bases closed, personnel sacked, equipment sold or given away and home to Blighty...
    A LOT of money saved…..and still best buddies with the sweet Krauts…

    You say…:
    ”I have always said though that the only real reason I have wanted oil exploration is so that we can pay the UK for our defense, then we will be completly self sufficient economically.”
    I say…:
    IF (biiiiiiiiiiig IF) the oil exploration ever should succeed……:
    What do you ”Think” the amount of Whitehall’s bill to the FIG(leaf) would resemble most ?
    1) The ~£70 million per year that Kelperette Ms. Saphira mentions at (34)…
    2) The ~£400 million per year Argie Mr. Pgerman mentions at (30) ?...
    3) The full cost of everything that could be somehow related to the Malvinas thiefence, estimated at about £700 million ?...

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    @ Brasileiro What the above article confirms is what IDIOTS Alicia Casto Daniel Filmus and the rest of The Argentine Junta have made themselves look by believing The Great British would even dream of suggesting that Argentina should ever get it's greasy thieving paws on The Falkland Islands

    #MADETOLOOKSTUPID

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doggy Rap

    @ 98 pgerman who writes

    “Based on the lovely and friendly comments I am receiving it's quite clear that I touched a very sensitive nerve.”

    A very sensitive nerve? writing complete rubbish does have a tendency to irritate intelligent people.
    .

    29 yankeeboy wrote:

    “Considering 50% of Argentina's population only went through 6th grade, what could be the % of population that is fluent in English? Let's say .05% to be generous, 220,000, let's say 60% of them have daily internet, 132,000, and 30% care about the Falklands 39,000, and 50% take the time to vote. Lo and behold there's your 18K Darn good % actually.”

    To any reasonably mentally equipped person, yankeeboy is calculating - tongue in cheek - that every single Argentine, who cares about the Falkland Islands dispute, who cares to participate, and also has access to the internet, has voted.

    In your interpretaion this becomes

    30 pgerman answered:

    “@29 Based on your comments just well educated people would have the right to vote either in Argentina or in the UK. This was the basic concept of greek democracy. We can add that only those who have properties can be citizens legally able to vote and have full rights.”

    Would you care to expand on how the calculated number of Argentine who voted in Daily Telegraph's poll somehow translates to that yankeeboy should demand reductions in the right to vote?

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  • paulcedron

    104.
    it seems you dont even know your own language.

    English definition of “retarded”
    retarded
    adjective /rɪˈtɑː.dɪd/ US /-ˈtɑːr-/ offensive old-fashioned
    › having had a slower mental development than other people of the same age:
    mentally/emotionally retarded
    (Definition of retarded adjective from the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary & Thesaurus © Cambridge University Press)

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    @Think Britain as the 4th biggest military spend in the world with some of the most advanced equipment unfortunately the best Argentina as tends to prefer to lie on it's side in shallow water though I do understand Lady kirchner as purchases some second hand badly maintained Spanish jets
    Poor argentines so poorly defended evenUruguay could walk over your country within 24 hours

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/symbol-argentinas-decaying-navy-sinks-port

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Oh Think....you are funny...

    Oil exploration has already succeeded. Oil development is fully funded.

    Now, whether or not the Falkland Island government pay £60m a year (the net cost to the UK exchequer), £400m a year (the gross cost) or your fictitious £700m a year, you wish it were true number....

    What the fuck has it got to do with you? It has to do with the Falkland Island Government and the UK Exchequer.

    However, now you come to mention it though....

    When (not if) the Sealion field is flowing oil at 100,000 barrels a day, and when the FIG are receiving 26% of the revenue...where do you suppose they will be investing the money?

    Which government bonds are safer...UK or Argentina?
    Where might they invest in infrastructure projects..where do they today?

    Hmmm.....looks like your pathetic cost per kelper...true cost...might be a tad crap!

    Never mind...perhaps Sealion will be in isolation and oil production limited to 100,000 barrels a day.

    Or perhaps.....we will see...

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doggy Rap

    @ 110 Paul Ignorant Cedron writes:
    ”it seems you dont even know your own language. English definition of “retarded”

    Deary me! retarded can be used in 3rd person only: he/she/... is/are retarded.

    When you use it in 2rd person, like when I tell you, that you are a retard, it is ' you are a retard' or 'you are retarded'.

    'poor little retarded' is bad English, retard.

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  • Andy65

    And all Kirchner,Filmus,Castro and the rest of those thieving bastards can do is cry lie and bleat they can do nothing else poor THINK do you feel proud or ashamed???

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    @ Andy65

    A sleeping giant is still a giant.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    @Brasileiro, In Argentina's case a dieing midget

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #107
    Not if Whitehall applies the same system in Malvinas as they applied under their recent troop withdrawal from Germany…...

    You may not have noticed in your isolation, that the cold war is over. Russia is no longer considered a direct military threat. This being the case , there is no need to station troops, armoured divisions and their equipment in Germany.
    One possible threat is Argentina's attitude to the Falklands which are exemplified by posters such as yourself.
    We have a minimum force to deter any aggression from your country.
    If nothing, we learned the lesson from the last time.

    #110
    You are getting confused here. Retard can be used as a noun.
    Retarded is a verb which can also be used as an adjective. So, poor little retarded is grammatically incorrect.
    What you should have written is “poor little retard” OR poor little retarded person/man

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    113
    so it can be used in 3rd person only?
    now, there is a book in amazon.com using it in 2nd person, probably dedicated to you.

    http://www.amazon.com/BITCH-ARE-YOU-RETARDED-DIFFERENCE/dp/1468557076

    again, you don´t even know your own language.

    117.
    that explanation sounds a lot better.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    So Paul wants to teach us English
    Think is worried about our budget deficit
    And Argentina votes in our newspaper polls.
    While we are delighted by all the attention (we're not really), you might be better advised worrying about your own inflation and cash reserves.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    @ paulcedron, Instead of Hector Timerman prostituting himself around the world BEGGING for support perhaps they should send you-you never did answer how you feel under the kirchners how they have made a country of 40 million people defenceless ,your forces had to cancel military exercises not long ago because you could not afford fuel and was in fear of your OUTDATED military equipment being in pounded by creditors JA what a sorry state of affairs

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Redrow
    Instead of worrying about our inflation rate, worry about the fact that fewer and fewer kids are born in Europe and of all new Europeans, the vast majority are from outside Europe, or children of the same.
    Aiming at clouds in a metrosexual life, you lot lost connection with your roots and it's quite telling that the only culture that defines you lot, as a whole, is the US one.
    Stuck in the middle, you are invaded by people from one side and a discount culture from the other.

    Now, THAT's more worrying than any inflation rate...

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    @Stevie, sounds like you have been chewing on the unwanted uterus of Ofelia Wilhelm dam is their any Argentines without European or Nazi surnames

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Why the redundancy?

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    Perhaps it's as washed up and smelly as her daughter the botox queen

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    I understand you choose to worry about CFK's mother's uterus.
    It makes sense. It really does....

    Fight it, Andy! Fight it!

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    JA I find it funny that Argentine press choose to write such shit about this x nazi

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    119.redrow.
    “When you use it in 2rd person”
    no doubts the guy needs some lesons.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    Argentina.....BUSTED!

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 12:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    @ Pirate Love ,Not the first time and won't be the last lieing thieving bastards as Dr Battle rightly stated JAJA

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Paul
    You just gave the lot 15 min of extra life with that missed 's'...

    Pirate Love
    It seems the percentage of people “voting” for Argentine sovereignity was larger than the amount of Argentine voters, with the obvious result that the amount of people “voting” for British sovereignity was lower than the amount of British voters. In a British poll..

    My question is though, regarding that you lot take pride in self-determination;

    Why was Falkland sovereignity not an option?

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 12:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    “You just gave the lot 15 min of extra life with that missed 's'...”

    jaja. i know.
    mala mía

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    Dam Argentine cash reserves are plummeting, old Crissy might have that helicopter on stand by a lot sooner than expected, thieving old hag-all these trolls can't see she's bled them dry

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 01:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    All this why you are having an XXL menu, enjoying your Ronald McDonald culture.... Thinking you, in your freedom of choice, chose that way of life. Enjoying a freedom of speech where nobody listens, calling pest for blue and colera for red.
    You'll be rich again soon, mate. As soon as you're done paying for the banking speculation. And again you'll realize you confused wealth with happiness and you'll set out again, looking for more...

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 01:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    most famous british exportations
    “Thirteen of Britain's most-wanted criminals, thought to be on the run in Spain, have been named by the National Crime Agency”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24939356

    and they whine because of a bunch of bulgarian migrants...
    british typical migrant
    “British fugitive detained for drug trafficking and money laundering”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24939356

    british typical migrants
    “British drug mules jailed for more than six years in Peru”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24939356

    british typical tourist
    “Briton Ian Bennett 'kills his dad' in a fight on holiday in Spain”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24939356

    Check out all the latest News, Sport & Celeb gossip at Mirror.co.uk http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24939356
    Follow us: @DailyMirror on Twitter | DailyMirror on Facebook

    they reject the bulgarians, but they give refuge to war criminals, including nazis...
    “Killers on our streets: 207 war crime suspects living in Britain including five 'Nazis'”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24939356

    lovely, lovely people

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 02:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Andy & Pirate 'ell,

    Do you notice that “Paul” and “Stevie” are maliciously ethnically stereotyping us as they rant?
    They see nothing wrong with that - I think it's as much to reassure themselves as it is to insult us.

    If we were to stereotype the Latin Americans and Anerindians the same way, the Paulo's and Stefano's would be screaming that we were racist.

    Oh, the hypocrisy of them both.

    What a pair of insecure losers.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 05:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    What? You don't like being stereotyped?

    Maybe you lot should stop stereotyping instead of crawling back to your hives when presented with your truths...

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 05:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @136 Stevie

    You wouldn't recognise the truth if it danced naked in front of you.

    All you and your fellow trolls are trying to do is to distract from the fact that Argentina has been caught in another MAJOR lie.

    But, of course, you are paid to try and deflect this thread from the TRUTH.

    The TRUTH that Argentine inflation is out of control. The TRUTH that Argentina is running out of US dollars and is about to implode. And the TRUTH that Argentina has NO case for sovereignty of the Falkland Islands - all it has is lies and wishful thinking.

    If Argentina's case is so solid then take it to the ONLY body in the world that can force the UK to hand over sovereignty - the International Court of Justice.

    Of course, Argentina won't go because they KNOW that all of their claims are LIES, and they have ZERO evidence to back them up.

    And, of course, every year that goes by strengthens the Falklanders claims and RIGHTS to their own land, and weakens Argentina's already pathetically weak claims, and curbs Argentina's imperialist colonial ambitions.

    Now that IS the TRUTH, isn't it?

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 06:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    No, the tryth is that you live in a borrowed discount-culture, slowly being replaced by people with greater desire to reproduce themselves....

    That's the truth.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 06:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    Poor Stevie frightened of anyone who is different to you.

    British people are British, it doesn't matter what colour they are or what religion they are.

    It is you that is frightened, that is the truth. Afraid of anyone that isn't a white catholic, so you try to transpose your fears onto others. After all, if you're afraid, then everyone else must be too, right?

    WRONG!

    People are people, and as soon as you get that through your head, the less fear you'll feel and you'll become a better, more centred person.

    But all those fears that you have about anyone that is 'different' to you, haunt you, twist you, and make you into a nasty little troll.

    And in the meantime, your model of a socialist paradise is crumbling around you, rotten to the core, just like socialism itself.

    Run away and cry, little frightened Stevie. The big bad muslim might come and get you...

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 07:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    @127 Paul
    There was nothing wrong with the English in my post.
    I won't mock your own mistake, it's your second language after all.

    @ 121 Stevie and 131 Paul
    Stevie, you worry about our birth rate, but wealthy people have fewer kids than impoverished people. That's just how it is. Then Paul, you quote articles about British drug dealers as if that even remotely equates to the looming economic catastrophe that is Argentina. The sad thing is that if your country would only leave the Falkland islanders alone I would feel much more sympathetic, but instead your leaders harass and bully them. The islanders are hated not because of the land they are on but because of the lives they have made for themselves. They work hard and show resilience and community spirit. Basically, they show you up as a nation and that is what truly galls you. And as their little country grows richer, yours slides closer to economic oblivion. A century ago Britain was your friend and trading partner and might have been a useful ally in your current predicament. That today we aren't is entirely Argentina's fault and Argentina's loss.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 07:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Hahahaha
    I have no problem whatsoever with muslim people, I'm sure they'll make a better place of England within my lifetime...

    Hahahaha

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 08:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    139 LEPRecon

    Dany Berger was afraid too - he kept telling us that everyone in Britain was soon to eat kebabs and wear “Muslim pajamas” and the“ pure white people were having there ethnic purity watered down ”

    These Trolls are real vocal racists and xenophobes.
    They think that is acceptable, and that we have the same fears as they do.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    You lot already eat kebab... Nothing wrong with that, just a part of your culture.
    Kebab (Shawarma), Pizza (Italian, although the baker looks suspiciously similar to the kebab cutter...)
    And lastly, McD. The supplier of culture.

    Gastronomia Britanica, enjoy!

    ...

    Fish'n'chips, anyone? No?

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 08:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Oh my god!!!

    Stevies true racism flaunted for everyone to see.

    Clearly, you have never been to Britain nor understand anything at all about it's roots or culture.

    I'd stick to wind turbines Stevie, and realpolitik....or perhaps solving your acne problem or losing your virginity.

    Any would be more productive than spouting off racist crap on the Internet about things you clearly know nothing about. You are embarrassing yourself Stevie.

    Britain is remarkably at ease wih it unique identity thanks Stevie...of course, had Uruguay got a culture I am sure it would be proud too....does CFK allow you one?

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 08:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    I'm racist because of the fact that you lot have no culture so you have to import one.... three... a few?
    Hey, I don't blame you, if our chivitos, churrascos, milanesas, asados or chorizos tasted or even looked like fish'n'chips, I would import food cultures too.
    It's nothing wrong with that, on the contrary, quite understandable.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 08:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    #135/6: Too much tereotyping. Stevie doesn't like tereorists.

    #127: The missing 's' could be more fun were it a missing 'i'.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    I like everybody.
    I also like your way to approach other cultures, so I merely approach you lot in the same manner.
    I'm sure you love it...

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Stevie

    We import many many international cuisines. It is your loss that you don't. The fact that you make understanding and enjoying other cultures a weakness, is perhaps the underlying reason for your racist ignorance.

    Interestingly of course you associate the german Hamburger with America...perhaps they imported some cuisine too.

    As I am sure you have never had British fish and chips, or Roast Beef, or Steak and Kidney Pie, or any of the other wealth of british cuisine, I am sure you, (as ever) have no idea what you are prattling on about.

    However, cuisine is just one benefit of having an appreciation of international culture.

    The more ridiculous and racist drivel that comes from you (Also your buddy and equally low IQ Dany Bugger) is that somehow British culure is “at threat” from either Islamic or American cultures.#

    Is that the best you have Stevie..you poor ignorant racist turd!!

    Firstly, British culture is just as influential on the US and the US is on Britain, and probably neither is too significant. We enjoy films made in Hollywood, but often the directors and leading actors are british...who is influencing whom?

    We share similar tastes in music with US artists successful in the UK, and UK artists successful in the US.

    Indeed on the many occassions I have visited the US, there are common elements to the cuisine and unique elements.

    But of course, your most pathetic ignorance was saved for the Islamic immigration into the UK. Yet again, ignorant racist turd, you show that you have no knowledge or experience of what you spew.

    The vast majority of Islamic immigration into the UK, are families who work hard, keep the laws of the land, pay taxes, and generation by generation consider themselves ever more British. Sorry you don't like that FACT Stevie.

    What defines a nationality Stevie isn't in the blood (only in Harry Potter or Mein Kampf perhaps) its in the society, in the families and in education.

    Sadly your society has bred a racist turd in you

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Buzzsaw

    Just like the old saying, ‘.. give someone enough rope and they will hang themselves..’, well that is just what the telegraph did to Argentina. After the hijacked Gibraltar Poll, some clever spark thought it may work in the UK favour on Argentina, as your politicians don't seem to be too quick off the mark. The thing that must have rang a few alarm bells for the Argentinians was the translation into Spanish under the English, surely that must have been the give away?

    The DT just waited for the Argentinian press and politicians to do their work and then the DT published the origin of the voters to make the politicians and press look foolish proclaiming the UK voters agree with Argentina, another Argentinian own goal.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Wow.

    Someone's true colours are blazing bright lately.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Benson

    @Think
    ”Pleeeeeeeeeeeease…. Mr. W.. (oops) Benson“
    No need for an oops mate, I don't care if I am anonymous on here. If anyone is curious my name is Ben Watson. Not sure what the pleeeeeeeeease is for though, maybe I am being ignorant about the cost but £70m is a cost figure that I have seen in black and white on the UK parlimentary website. Perhaps you can provide a reliable source for your figure.

    ”Bases closed, personnel sacked, equipment sold or given away and home to Blighty...
    A LOT of money saved…..and still best buddies with the sweet Krauts…“

    Money saved but jobs lost, so we're saving jobs for armed forces personel then.

    ”IF (biiiiiiiiiiig IF) the oil exploration ever should succeed……:
    What do you ”Think” the amount of Whitehall’s bill to the FIG(leaf) would resemble most ?
    1) The ~£70 million per year that Kelperette Ms. Saphira mentions at (34)…
    2) The ~£400 million per year Argie Mr. Pgerman mentions at (30) ?...
    3) The full cost of everything that could be somehow related to the Malvinas thiefence, estimated at about £700 million ?...”

    I think that if is getting smaller by the day or there wouldn't already be billions invested. Who knows I could be wrong but we'll just go around in circles debating that until it either happens or fails.
    Like I said I haven't seen anything to support pgermans figure.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #145
    Hey, I don't blame you, if our chivitos, churrascos, milanesas, asados or chorizos

    I had to look up some of these items and they are all based on meat. Hardly a healthy diet.
    I cannot see any difference between a chivito and a cheeseburger. viz:-
    The star ingredient is a slice of churrasco (grilled, thin sliced beef), which is topped with slices of ham, bacon, lettuce and tomato, melted mozzarella cheese, and a fried egg. Optional toppings include cooked onions, olives, peppers, and pickles. Salsa golf, a mixture of ketchup and mayonnaise that is popular in Argentina and Uruguay, is the perfect condiment for this sandwich.
    Chorizo---A SAUSAGE !!!!!
    Asados.... Meat burned on a barbecue !!!
    The medical profession recommend cutting down on meat due to the increased risks of bowel cancer associated with it's consumption.
    Fish and chips is a healthier option to anything you have mentioned here.
    An after thought, our troops, in the Falklands, eating an inferior, diet still managed to walk across the island in winter and knock the crap out of your chums.
    When you can quote your international gastronomic qualifications then just maybe people will take your rants seriously. Until then they are nothing but prejudiced attempted winds-up.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • FI_Frost

    Its official, in online poll a “majority of Argentines” have voted for a rewriting of history.

    Henceforth: the Spanish/Italiano Christopher Columbus DID NOT discover the Americas and by consequence, the rape, pillage, usurpation, yadder yadder, of its native population DID NOT occur. Repeat: previous history on this was a made irrelevant lair.

    http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1656291-aparecen-quebradas-partes-del-monumento-a-colon

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Benson

    @152
    Not often that I'll argue the Argentine case but having spent a fair bit of time in Chile I do have to say that South American beef based foods are awesome. Chivito, healthy, no, tasty, hell yes. Only sweetbreads that I had in France beat the food I've had in Chile.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    @154

    Yep, I am sure you can find excellent examples of south American foods throughout the Uk, certainly South American beef dishes are increasingly popular.

    What is curious is that this is all Stevie eats. In FEAR that were he to try some Indian curry, some Thai noodles, some German sausages, some French pastries it would dilute his “Uruguayan culture” and some how make his gene pool less pure.

    It's a scary insight into the mind of a deluded racist moron turd....but that's our Stevie.

    Never mind, he's working on his Nobel Prize too.....PMSL.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porkchop

    Stevie, what an utter ass you are. I'm not even sure why people on this site even bother to respond to you and your nonsense such as the UK having no culture. You clearly like to believe you're more intelligent than you actually are but like so many others, you have nothing to rely on except racism, ignorance, outdated stereotypes and a couple of really piss poor jokes regarding Muslims taking over.. And then you justify your rabid behaviour by claiming others do it too.. So by your very own logic, I assume you must be a junkie, murdering, prostitute user because let's face it, plenty of others do that too.

    Why on earth do you even bother getting out of bed in the morning?

    This article is all about Argentines flooding an online Poll and then their political masters claiming some sort of victory before being exposed as fools - which has not gone down well with you hence your attempt to distract from the article with your pathetic and childish comments regarding culture.

    I for one am quite happy with some fish and chips for tea whilst I sit in front of the telly watching Eastenders and if that means I lack culture then so be it, but what the fck has it got to do with you? Sod all.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    You don't have to scratch some of these tupas too hard to find they are just as rabid, hate-filled, and bigoted as the regimes they affected to despise and replace. Must be hard to build a decent country when it mostly just oscillates between one flavour of fascist and another.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • El capitano

    Now who would ever have thunk that????lol...!

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doggy Rap

    Paul Ignorant Cedron, let's settle this little difference and get things straight

    Who was right

    Paul Ignorant Cedron who wrote: “poor little retarded”?

    or

    Doggy Rap who wrote: “poor little retard”?

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    I know you lot share food culture with USA.
    Just look at the Big Mac...
    And music too. Especially the futile, mass produced, commercial pop. Great for... dancing....?

    Personally, I love other food cultures, but fish and chips.... Tell me, was it because everything else was already tried? You had to have somethibg to call your own, a bit like Tolkien on religion?

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    dog,
    the thing is you dont even know your own language.
    i can give you some english lessons on line.
    the first is free

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    160 Stefano

    Still trying to justify your racism, I see.

    You don't need to embrace every British food.
    Good excuse to deride the whole culture, I suppose?

    We share food culture with the USA, and the rest of the world. We choose freely from many cultures.
    Think of how many people all over the world clamour to eat McDonalds, as a status symbol, or “to be like Americans”.
    I have seen it.

    Do you think all Americans eat McD all meals, everyday? Do you think anyone with money makes McD their first choice?

    Back on topic:

    The Argentinian government was “royally” duped by this poll

    LOL !!

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doggy Rap

    Paul Ignorant Cedron - not only ignorant but also a coward who, when he has lost becomes even more stupid than normally, shown to have a somewhat faulty knowledge of my fourth language, but good at drawing the wrong conclusions.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    I'm rasist because you lot eat deep fried fishs and serve it with deep fried chips and call it food culture?
    Does that make you lot lesbians?

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    troy tempestilent
    “We share food culture with the USA, and the rest of the world.”

    what? lol
    what has the british (yuck) food got to do with, for example, the wonderful mediterranean food of spain and italy?, you know with the best olive oil and the best wines.
    or what has the british (yuck) food got to do with the french food?
    nothing?
    luckily both in argentina and uruguay we inherited the spanish and italian traditions (and not the british) and created our own cuisine.
    not to mention the great wines of mendoza, salta, san juan, neuquen and rio negro.
    guess you have never tasted a catena zapata or a riglos quinto.
    it would be useless anyway, you guys don't drink, you get drunk

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    The thing is Stevie, we've often been told on here that it's not true that South America is dominated by implanted Italo-Iberian populations. Instead you're this wonderful eclectic mix of indigenous natives, criollos, and Cultures from all over the globe. But shock horror, now you're crowing about how the UK is becoming an eclectic mix of indigenous natives, Criolla, and cultures from all over the globe. Like it's a bad thing now.

    So I'm wondering now in all my perplexity what the good hint to be is, and what you in South America think it is actually are? Is it

    A) an eclectic mix, etc, etc
    B) a racially and culturally pure population of primarily Italo-Hispanic descent
    C) an eclectic mix, etc, etc, but with better races and cultures in it than the Brits are getting now, jajajajajaja
    D) a different species entirely ( a la Nostril)
    E) the lost tribe of Israel
    F) something a dumb Brit can't possibly conceive of

    Care to explain?

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Funny I can't think of one Int'l renowned chef from Argentina
    Can anyone else?
    Methinks not

    My favorite Chef from UK is Gordon Ramsey. I ate at London in NYC and it was fantastic!! I can't wait for him to open a restaurant where I live. I hear one may be coming soon!

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Porkchop
    I tried to stick to the subject, but people were more interested in talking about our inflation rates, Argentinas reserves and somebody elses uterus...
    If that's an issue for you lot to care, then fish'n'chips is a highly relevant matter.

    Here it comes again, the only post of mine nobody answered to:

    It seems the percentage of people “voting” for Argentine sovereignity was larger than the amount of Argentine voters, with the obvious result that the amount of people “voting” for British sovereignity was lower than the amount of British voters. In a British poll..

    My question is though, regarding that you lot take pride in self-determination;

    Why was Falkland sovereignity not an option?

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    yankee wannabe and its cliches. lol
    he chooses a mediatic chef as his favorite because he is on tv. lol
    the best chefs are recognized through their restaurants, not because they work on tv, you dumbass.

    in these restaurants you have the best chefs

    1 El Celler de Can Roca. Girona

    2 Noma. Copenhagen, Denmark

    3 Osteria Francescana. Modena, Italy

    4 Mugaritz. Errenteria. Gipuzkoa

    and not on tv.

    anyway, what can a bigmac eater know about cuisine?

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    @Stevie,Now my love how many times have your neighbours described Argentina as being a nation of thieves and liars?? That's how people see you and that's how people call it you are the most disliked nation in South America

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Benson

    @168

    The only people that can answer that for you are the ones involved in setting up the poll. E-mail the Telegraph if you really want to know, we can only speculate.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Hans
    I never said it was a bad thing, on the contrary, I said it was a great opportunity for England to become a decent nation without my lifetime.
    As for your list, just follow your heart. And turn that telly off!!

    Andy
    Your love? Is that the result of you “thinking more of me”?
    I demand for you to think less of me and more of some gal, I'm sure you can find a good looking one without a radius of 20 miles...
    I never heard anyone mentioning Uruguay being generally disliked anywhere...

    Benson
    Come on lad, you lot never stop speculating, regardless the topic.
    Why stop now?

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    “That's how people see you and that's how people call it you are the most disliked nation in South America”

    says a british (??)
    and why we can go everywhere we want (putting aside the little islands) with no problem, while you have to do a research in the foreign office if you are welcomed or not.
    it seems there is a lot of countries where british are not too much appreciated: spain, italy, germany, france. the rest of continental europe, ireland, argentina, the rest of latin america, the arab countries, etc etc etc.
    you reap what you sow, i guess.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    @ paulcedron Still living in a fantasy world you piece of shit what does Argentina do for anyone in this world?? I do believe the British as one of the biggest over seas aid budgets going ,how much help did Argentina send to The phillipines?? a big fat nothing. ARGENTINA A COUNTRY OF THIEVES AND LIARS

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Andy
    What have you ever done for anybody in this world, except of living on other people's merits?

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (151) Watson
    You say….:
    ”I think that ”IF” is getting smaller by the day or there wouldn't already be billions invested. Who knows I could be wrong but we'll just go around in circles debating that until it either happens or fails.”

    I say…:
    That ”IF” is only getting smaller because of the increased distance….
    I can see on another thread that PMO/Rockflopper have, yet again, deferred that famous “First Oil Production Date” til somewhere between 2019-2020…..
    But, as you so correctly point…. we’ll have to wait until it either happens or fails….
    I wouldn't bet the kitchen sink on it happening though….

    PS…:
    Those French sweetbreads you mention in (154)… Were they small crispy grilled chunks served on baby leaves salad, by any chance?

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    The Brits have done and given a lot more to the world than your corupt nation unless you believe corned beef and corn is a good example but please do enlighten us

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    What have YOU offered the world, Andy? Or do you expect us to take you seriously while you take credit for other people's work?

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    “I do believe the British as one of the biggest over seas aid budgets going”
    are you a falklander or a real british?
    cause in the first case is understandable that you know nothing about anything.
    so you think that britain “aided” iraq and afghanistan.
    and they wanted to “aid” syria.
    or they “aided” ireland, india, argentina, etc etc etc.
    i said it before, you have to invest every penny you get in education, deluded poor thing.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    @ paulcedron Have you tried telling the Kirchner's most of what you say instead of coming to this forum with your bitter twisted post-not our fault that you elect leaders that rob you blind

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Andy
    Is that a big “nothing”?

    Here's another chance... What have you ever done for anybody but yourself, Andy? Why is it you expect more from anybody else, Andy?

    Still thinking more of me?

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porkchop

    Stevie @168

    Perhaps the reason nobody here answered the Falkland Sovereignty option question was because nobody commenting on this site works for the Daily Telegraph? So perhaps you would be better off directing that particular question at the Daily Telegraph if you really are that curious.

    As for there being more votes for Argentina then votes directly made from Argentina, well there are a great number of Argentines in the UK. Only up the road from me is delicious Argentine Steak & Grill Bar. Perhaps there are Argentines in the UK who keep up their home affairs / family / friends / Twitter & Facebook sites. Perhaps some of these people voted? Who knows, maybe a handful of Brits did vote in Argentina's favour? Perhaps one or two hit the wrong button?

    Perhaps it doesn't really mater either way or make any difference what so ever?

    As for your attacks on British culture etc. I'm have no qualms in admitting that whilst we pretty much invented anything worth inventing and contributed so much in so many ways (Science, Music, The Arts etc.) our cuisine is not the best in the world. So what? Later tonight I will order an Indian because not only have I not eaten all day but because I absolutely I love it. Last week I had pizza 4 delivered 4 times and last night I had kebab & chips.

    Big deal? I think not. Worth commenting on? Not really.

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  • Andy65

    @Stevie, you talk shit mate you need to get your head out of your ass and smell the coffee

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    So, you don't answer my question because you don't work for the Daily pole-whatever. Why on Earth do you lot have so many opinions on SA then???

    Enjoy “your” food.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    @Stevie I bet you can only dream of the delights our friend porkchop eating-you see stevie unlike Argentina we are not fed lies and propaganda from an early age about The Falkland Islands but because of our British instinct of fairness we will not stand by while an old chemically enhanced botox queen threatens and bullies British people.You should have learned that lesson in 1982 but as I constantly tell you, you are an arrogant jumped up people disliked by many who think that if you tell lies for long enough then people will have to believe them.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porkchop

    @ 184 Stevie - You're asking why the option wasn't including in the Daily Telegraphs online Poll. How could anybody answer that unless they worked for the Daily Telegraph? It's like me asking you what size knickers the Queen wears. Do you know? No. And why? Because you don't work for the queen as her dresser or buyer. This is what I mean, you portray yourself as so intelligent but you're unable to grasp such basic points.

    And since when did having so many opinions on SA depend on or rely on having to be part of organising an online poll for the Daily Telegraph? It doesn't.

    I will enjoy “my” food. Thank you. I'm not as xenophobic as you as to not want to enjoy a curry because it's not “British”. It's not your quotation marks which offend me, just your ignorance and your arrogance to suggest it's okay to be so ignorant because others are.

    Ho hum.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Indian take-away? Italian pizza made by a Palestine?
    Don't get me wrong, Palestina has my full support and I have nothing against India... But a chivito al pan... Asado con chimichurri... Lengua a la vinagreta... How to know when the meat is ready? Easy, prick it with your fork and if it goes “mooh”, it's about time to remove it from the open fire... Indian take-away....

    By the way, Andy, have you indeed done anything for anybody else on this planet in order to demand the same from others? You haven't, have you? Not a darn thing. And here you are, taking credit for other people's work. How very English of you...

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    169. Got that list from a Spanish magazine huh? Still don't see any Arg restaurants on that list but lots of USA ones and lo and behold a couple in the UK.
    Rut ro
    again do you read the links you post?
    dumb as Axel

    176. I am sure we'll 12/1 today are you happy?
    I am
    Are you too embarrassed to reply
    Need some recipes for dog?
    dufus

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    Stevie
    As far as fish and chips go, I doubt that anyone in the UK lives on it as a main diet. Despite the act of deep frying, if it is done correctly very little of the oil is left in the batter.
    Surprisingly, nutritionists have shown that it is actually a healthy meal if cooked properly.
    Remember, cuisine is a matter of taste. The Chinese eat duck's bills, hen's feet, snake, sea slugs, bile from bears and such like delicacies. The Masai in Kenya drink cow's blood, Mongols can live on fermented mare's milk and blood, Inuits like a piece of tasty raw whale or seal meat.

    As to best restaurants, I could not comment which country has the best cooks or chefs. I will leave that to the gourmet press After all, how many people can afford the prices in these establishments.
    Who is the arbiter as to what is the best food ? Neither you nor I.
    However I would back the quality of the foodstuffs from where I live with ANYTHING equivalent in S.America whether it is beef, lamb, venison, chicken fish, shellfish and root vegetables.
    I read on line a few days ago that the country with the best diet, surprisingly is the Netherlands......not the Mediterranean countries.

    #161
    Excuse me for butting in on a private fight but here is a free English lesson from me to you.
    The first person singular is I, with a capital letter NOT i , in lower case.
    Also, when starting a sentence, a capital letter is mandatory. I thought that this was the case with all European languages and their derivatives.
    If you wish any further clarification on the correct use of the English language, feel free to ask.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Porkchop
    You lot don't work in SA either, but still you have too many opinions.
    I might not be the queens dresser, but it's not hard to guess her size of underwear.
    It is equivalent to the size of the torso of a normal, full grown male.
    I might be wrong and it's just too small, but with a bit of patience and loads of fabric, the problem is easily solved...

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porkchop

    Stevie - I don't have you wrong, not for a second. Funny how you are so determined & desperate you are to concentrate on fish and chips over anything else..

    And yes, I have done plenty for others on this planet thank you for asking. At any given opportunity. In addition, I've not been such a racist, xenophobic, pathetic S.O.B.

    And no, I don't work in SA right now. Perhaps I have done before? Perhaps I've made the mistake of taking a holiday there? But yes, you're quite right in stating I have plenty of opinions. I do indeed. The difference is that I go about expressing them in a quite a way you could never comprehend. A way in which doesn't deliberately set out to insult and offend.

    I wasn't asking you to guess the sixe of anybody's underwear. I was drawing a comparison. Thank you for confirming my point regarding you being unable to grasp the simplest of points.

    The problem is that you are wrong and if you don't get it now, you never will do.

    As for taking credit for other peoples work, did I say that or did you? I believe it was you. I was just pointing out all the contributions my people have made over time. Except for corn beef and how best to avoid paying your debts, can you do the same? No.

    You're just too easy.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    yank wannabe
    what spanish magazine are you talking about?
    of course the best restaurants are in continental europe, most of all in spain.
    but putting restaurants aside, the concept of food is a lot wider.
    so you can go to the poorest village in italy and still enjoy great wine and great food in any family home.
    in britain and the u.s. all you can get is a big mac with fries. yuck

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    192. Poor stupid sudaca, you've never been anywhere have you?
    How come McD is considered such a treat in Argentina if its so yucky?
    It is also workplace that is coveted by bilinguals too
    You should try to get a job there then try for a x-fer to a civilized country

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porkchop

    192 - All we can get is Big Mac and fries? Really? Another know nothing pretending to know it all. Give it up. You know nothing of the kind.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Porkchop
    Have you ever seen my type profanities?
    I think the worse thing I've called anyone here is “fool”, which at the moment was more of a piropo for that person in question...

    The part about taking credit for other people's work was for Andy, I can't remember you spitting the same drivel he did...

    Clyde
    You're a Scot.
    I have no issues with you, nor do I intend to.
    No generalization is aimed towards your nation or people.
    I beg your pardon if my blasts hit that target.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    193
    sure yank wannabe, the british / american contribution to cuisine et vins was formidable:
    fast food, junk food and obesity.

    that´s why you are a fat, greasy yank.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    That may be true and yet I can walk to restaurants that wouldn't even let you in the front door.
    Too bad you'll never be able to afford a ticket anywhere that you hate so much.
    Is it a year's salary for you to fly to Miami or 2?

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    @ Stevie ,Do us all a favour will you.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Lets me see... My spare change would take me to Miami...
    But I've heard a balsa is the most common way of travelling...
    yanqui, you are poor in so many levels, we really should have pity with you.

    But we don't...

    ;)

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    fly to miami?
    i already told you, you halfwit.
    miami is for the “grasas” like you.
    a falklander pretending to be a miami guy...pathetic

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Falklands Daily Telegraph poll,,

    keep on blog, says argies bloggers.lol

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porkchop

    Stevie, yes I have, And really? You “think” the worse thing you've said on here is to call somebody a fool? Liar. Not only to me but to yourself.

    As for the rest, my apologies for all mistakes and mistaken replies. My internet connection is being a naughty girl today.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Porkchop
    I have a phone that translates English into non-English... Quite disturbing...
    Anyway, yes, I might be responsible of implying worse things than common insults, but you need to understand how your words (not yours in particular) are received after they pass the language filter. Especially when the words are written and not spoken.
    The very same thing you accuse me of, is what I feel when I read the drivel posted on every single thread.
    You have people like conq disrespecting our countries, families and lives, her nobody ever gets his posts deleted or even lets him know he's way off.
    No, instead you all silently agree with the man, letting us know that “you never read his posts”.
    That's bollocks, and you know it.
    Until you lot confess colours, you'll be dining what you serve.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    tis not wots the jaw says,

    tis how the enemy takes it. innit,

    interpretation is a funny thing,
    yet the laughs are few,
    once spoken...

    Justa few silly words of hope..lol

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porkchop

    Stevie.

    For the last few months I have only read the articles and comments on this site and I usually read valid points from both sides. But I have increasingly grown tired of the stereotypical insults of which are directed at a person such as myself.

    My teeth are fine. My Education was not only fine but an absolute blast. I have morals. And I am sick an tired of being 2014 years in and still having to read about and put up with, with so much crap to be polite. So much nonsense about the smallest of issues when compared against the real challenges we face as the one race that we are.

    I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt for now and concede that just like I, you log on and read things that really piss you off from those on 'my side'. But just like I, please try not to generalise about the British just as I will try not to do so about anybody else. It serves no purpose on either side and is unfair.

    At the same time, please don't try to justify your comments through the comments of others or people on 'my side'. As long as I comment on this site - and I don't have the upmost authority to do so because I'm not an Islander, not Argentine, was only 1 year old during the Falklands war and I'm not a know it all - I'll pull anybody up who I think is bang out of order. But the excuse that others are doing it just doesn't cut it.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    in a nut shell,
    they [CFK] thinks they have a right to invade , threaten , intimidate , abuse , blocked , insult and slag of , innocent islanders who just want to live in peace,

    but alas, these argies will hear nothing against their rights,
    yet totally ignoring the rights of the islanders, .

    oh, and all we brits are pirates,
    still,
    most is banter, but a few go over the top..

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porkchop

    And my mistake, maths was never my strongest point - I wasn't alive in 1982.. So I wasn't even 1 year old at the time.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    It's not an excuse, Porkchop. It's a reality and my posts are a (very aware) reaction to it.
    My auntie is English, and that's no lie. Her kids are, if not by blood, my cousins and there's nothing in the World that could change that fact. As it should be.
    I post on several threads, or used to, and I never came across this arrogance, fuming with every other post presented as I've done here on MP.
    Now, call me sinister, but I inherited a tongue split in two from my dear mother and together with a rather dark sense of humour, I'm a perfect target for the drivel. I have no intensions in blaming anybody for my posts, just letting you know the reason of my actions.
    You know who you are, and by now, you should know if you're the target for my words.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • alan

    @173 PaulCedron
    “it seems there is a lot of countries where british are not too much appreciated: spain, italy, germany, france. the rest of continental europe, ireland, argentina, the rest of latin america, the arab countries, etc etc etc.” - Prove it. Have you been to all these countries? People from other countries seemed to enjoy the Olympics, Premiership football, London, Edinburgh, etc. How many people visit Argentina? Or do the visitors to the UK just come because they have nothing better to do with their money/holidays etc.?

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porkchop

    @173 Paul

    The above comment drew my attention to your misinformed comment. As a Brit who has been to every place you mention and more, I have never been made to feel unwelcome due to my nationality so try again.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    You know what's really sad, Porkchop?
    The fact that the whole point with this site was to promote the Islanders view on the matter to the South American public.
    Instead you (not you in particular) are promotor Argentinas claims with your bulldog behaviour.

    Because the Islanders do indeed have a voice. A voice that is being silenced by the brutish behaviour of people that pretends to be their protectors...

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    “Because the Islanders do indeed have a voice. A voice that is being silenced by the brutish behaviour of people that pretends to be their protectors”

    You need to go tell that to the Argentine government...there the ones who say The Islanders do not have a voice an there the ones who bully and are.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Listen to your countrymen Andy, don't blame other people for your flaws. This is a portal to South America, not a hotline to CFK. Most South Americans will get the impression you lot are a bunch of troublemakers with no other agenda that trying to divide and destabilize the continent...

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porkchop

    I don't know that Stevie,

    I don't feel that the Islanders really need to go out of their way to impress anybody. They have nothing to prove to the rest of SA. They are not some circus animal which needs to jump through hoops for anybody.

    What is sad is that Argentina, regardless of how it views it's claim over the Falkland Islands, feels it has so little else going on that it can afford to spend the time and resources over the Falklands - especially since as far as I know, is not facing a shortage of space for housing etc. to the extent it needs to be kicking up the fuss it is kicking up.

    But you know, regardless, I think it's about time somebody either put up, shut up and took this to the ICJ - or declared independence.

    As for voices being side lined, you never know who you're talking too and even if UK voices or others appear to taking precedence over islanders views, more fool you for going along with it all.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • alan

    Stevie
    Generally in democracies, people express opinions in elections / referendums. It is called self-determination. Indeed theirs is the only 'voice' that matters. It is not 'a voice' - it is the only voice that matters. I thought the whole point of this site was to ensure the owners get enough money to maintain it - they do that presumably by generating 'clicks' to drive up the advertising revenue - keep clicking

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    @211 “Because the Islanders do indeed have a voice. A voice that is being silenced by the brutish behaviour of people that pretends to be their protectors...”

    You really have gone mental with almost Toby Brownshirt Boy levels of frothiness and Alex Org levels of deluded pathological lying. The Islanders made their views loud and clear with the support and to the delight of the UK to the point that they let them do much of the talking on their case. Unless you are referring to the “Great Blue Fathers” on the C24 who want to dehumanize them as much as Argentina does, the only people who are trying to silence it are Malvanazis like you.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    A pity you call them that, Porkchop, for doing what they consider appropiate...

    http://www.falklandnews.com/public/story.cfm?get=4788&source=3

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porkchop

    My Indian takeaway is not on route, at least I hope it is. Hmmm. Chicken Vindaloo, Sada rice, Onion Bhajee, Lamb samosa, Rishmi Kebab, Sag Aloo, 2 spicy poppadum's, an extra mint sauce and a free Chana Masala - So long as it tastes as good, I couldn't give a hoot who invented it all. Yum yum.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    @Stevie Have you ever had the pleasure of a porkchop??

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porkchop

    Sorry - my take away IS on route. Naughty internet adding words.

    Stevie - I looked at the article, if you are trying to draw my attention to the fact that Islanders are attempting to have their voice heard, I understand why they seek to do so. At the same time, I also realise no media is unbiased, as much as any media outlet may try.. I've not seen that particular website but as I said, I don't presume to know it all.

    My food is on the way, I haven't eaten all day, it's 9.36pm and I've had a beer.. or two. I have no energy to add any more so good night.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Andy
    I come from a country with one of the highest rate of meat consumption per capita on the entire planet and you ask me if I have had a pork chop....

    Porkchop
    Enjoy.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porkchop

    Nobody here has had me :)

    And I sure will enjoy, ta.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Paul, (#192), I've been to plenty of countries in the Far East, Africa, North , South and Central America, and I think that while most of them (if not all) have fastfood, which in the most part is pretty standard, and not my favourite food, most of them also have some fantastic restaurants ...sure, I agree with you when you say that you can find good food and wine in many of the small villages throughout Italy, but to believe that all you can find in the UK and the USA, are big macs with fries, just goes to prove you have either never been there, if you have , then that's all you could afford, or you are just saying it to try to piss someone off....hardly constructive.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    223 Jack

    A few people seem to suspect that “Paul” is actually Toby the Troll, aka “Nostrils”.

    In that case, you are correct on two counts - he has never travelled outside of Arg, and yes, he is saying these things to piss people off.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    Mmmm....Roast beef and Yorkshire Pudding...
    Lancashire Hot Pot...
    Cumberland Sausages...
    Haggis and Neeps....
    Yum yum....

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Yum yum...
    And for afters...
    A generous portion of...
    Bread and butter pudding ...

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 06:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    I think the rg's have slipped up again lol nasty bunch you rg's have running your country you should get rid of em and try speaking nicely to your neighbours maybe in a generation or two they will forgive you if you apologise and play nice :) then again not much hope of that in the immediate future they've messed up your homeland so bad they need to keep you distracted anyway they can its sad really. I thought we'd had some bad politicians but the worst of our lot are angels compared to yours

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Not to mention the freedom of selection in a UK super market. The amount of different foodstuff is amazing! And from every part of the world.
    But why talk about eachothers qualities, when we can belittle eachother instead?

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    227
    Stupid, blinkered, people are for belittling....culinary delights, from around the world ...are for enjoying......;-)

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    culinary delights, from around the world are for enjoying ...... :-)

    Pina (with a little squiggly over the 'a') - mmmm

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    I dont think i mentioned food folks I stayed on topic so any replies to my post that wander off topic without either a funny result or to make a valid point will be ignored Im not generally in the habit of feeding the wildlife it can cause unintended dependency :)

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    231
    ....fairly obvious it was a number error and meant for Stevie@228....
    Why don't you feed some of these ,,,, .... to your post...it certainly looks hungry for some....;-)))

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Maybe he's in a hurry....
    You know typing like this because it saves more time besides it makes perfect sense in his head despite that the ones reading don't know where a sentence begins nor where it ends afterwards they offer you classes un the art of written English *breathes*

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    no stevie Im dyslexic but if you want to pick on a disability feel free the opinion of bigots and racists doesnt really bother me lol. Plus Ive been awake for 2 days now so all in all I think Im doing pretty well. Also if you need to read out loud I suggest you practice some more most of us (even us dyslexics) can read in our heads so its not like we run out of breath reading that way so blah. Your another really good comedian I find your bigotry slightly disturbing but its funny at times, its really not your fault its the poor education you received something your masters learnt from their nazi guests I suspect :). A_Voice do you really think I should feed the trolls they may forget how to fend for themselves lol

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Maybe you should go sleep and take your time when you type as it is it makes no sense i understand you have a disability but how come it's the responsability of the rest of us yanqui has a disability too he's chronically depressed that's not my fault either we also have people like conq he's just vurdring with rage that's on a good day I hope you can understand what I'm trying to tell you.

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porkchop

    Well, last nights vindaloo was lovely - although my rear end would argue I should have gone with a bit of Welsh rarebit followed by some bread and butter pudding..

    Stevie, you're right about all the different food stuffs in UK supermarkets. It is amazing - except the Caribbean isle in Tesco's. Most of the food down that isle is pretty much the same as the rest just with a Caribbean label stuck on it. The corn beef for example in both the normal and Caribbean isles come from exactly the same place!

    I know because I checked. I was trying to avoid SA corn beef in-case Toni Lopez had an inside man or two working at the factory, spitting in cans destined for the UK lol.

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    We can also talk about our own respective qualities...
    You should try a chivito mate, at least once.
    A choripan with vino lija is great as well, if you are up for an evening with the toothless...
    Or gather all your friends and their friends and lets have an Asado con cuero. For that one you'll need proper wine, 50/50 7up wont cut it... I'd say Tannat, but my view is biased...

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porkchop

    A chivito? Isn't that a sandwich? I've had one of those before silly. I would prefer a Pastel de carne or a pancho. Pastel de carne sounds so much classier than meat and potato pie I think.

    Hmm 50/50 - I think that's what we call 20/20? Ah hat takes me back to when I was young.. just a couple of years ago to be precise lol.

    Apparently, Uruguayan cuisine is traditionally based on its European roots, in particular, European food from Italy, Spain, Portugal and France, but also from countries such as Germany and Britain, along with African and indigenous mixtures.

    Bit cheeky of you guys to nick ideas for your cuisine from Britain and then slate our food don't you think Stevie :p

    All this talk of food has me salivating like that of some mad dog on a hot summer’s day. Must eat.

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    A chivito is not a sandwich, Porkchop. It's THE sandwich. A cacaphony of flavours to the sensible palate.
    If you want to go proper domestic, have a mondongo, chinchulín or try an estofado on a coolish day. We also offer torta fritas on rainy days...

    In between meals, lets share a mate. Amargo, of course.

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porkchop

    No, I really don't want to go domestic. I had to look mondongo up and now I feel sick. I'm not a fan of tripe in shape, way or form.

    It's actually my birthday tomorrow & I'm going out to eat later with friends and you've ruined it before it's already begun Stevie. I can't even drink my beer now let alone think about eating.

    Yuk, yuk, yuk. Estofado sounds and looks nice though, I need to concentrate on that.

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    stevie (are you a girl? you spell your name in the female way) erm i never said it was your responsibility at all i merely explained why i may have missed a little punctuation and offered you the opportunity to display your inner self :). I understand what your sayin just fine your a bigoted twat who thinks its hard to try and wind people up quite straightforward really. The speed of my typing has absolutely nothing to do with my lack of punctuation I dont think you understand what dyslexia is. Out of interest to those who can properly comprehend the English language, were any of my posts unintelligible? As for (Im assuming you mean yankeeboy) yanqui's depression its not really the same type of issue, if true depression is a horrible thing to bare and is not something to casually dismiss!! Oh n for the record bigot Im bi polar hence the no sleep I could be up for another 2 or 3 days to come depends when my body over rules my head (again not assigning blame/responsibility) just giving you fair warning monkeynuts ie dont offer me advice about my personal choices you are not my friend and have no right to do so. Oh and a sarni is a sarni no matter how u try to make it different by telling us what filling it has and as you've annoyed me with your inability to show any form of common decency the sandwich is BRITISH u twonk. Hope you enjoyed your curry Porkchop I went to the chinese buffet place wee one likes in Gloucester nice and cheap to was only £20 a head including a few pints was good :). Think i might have a curry tomorrow unless the other half is up for making carbonara :) this has just made me hungry again lol
    (did I use enough punctuation for you to understand stevie? Or are you still struggling?)

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Nooo, the chinchulín is the tripe, the mondongo is the stomach.
    Clean it well before you cool it though, or you'll... regret it.
    You are right on the chinchulín, feels like a load of fat exploding in your mouth at the first bite. Wish I could say second bite is better, but imo, it not...
    But the buseca... You'd love it, I promise you.
    Otherwise, the parrillera is always on, grab some ensalada rusa from the stove and come out next to the fire and pick your cut. Chimichurri and fariña already on the table.
    I'll be cutting the top of a pineapple, to fill it with lemon, sugar, ice, cachaca (from our brothers up north) and some water. While it cools, taste this grapa miel...

    How about a pascualina for a starter, and to end it all, for the sweet tooth, a budín.... inglés....

    ;)

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porkchop

    Both sound disgusting and I hate you, so much right now Stevie! My stomach is ever so delicate - I'm a classy English, I'll only eat a kebab from one place in London.. But I draw the line at any animals stomach or tripe - unless in the kebab meat from the one kebab shop I eat from. I just can't understand why anybody would eat that.

    I can't bring myself to look up anything else you mention in case it gets worse than tripe & frigging stomachs but any thing alcohol has a thumbs up from me. Now, I really must go and put my fingers down my throat in preparation for tonight.

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    You are a bit flojo, I got to admit....

    ShadowWalker
    See? Much better!
    Stop blaming dyslexia and deal with that laziness of yours and you'll make perfect sense in the written language.
    Next, stop playing computer all night long and go to sleep instead, that will cure your bipolar disorder as well.

    Don't mind thanking me.

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    stevie you are possibly the most unfortunate person Ive conversed with to date and trust me thats sayin something it really is. Maybe if I could Id post in runes that would prove my point perfectly numbnuts. I dont actually play to many games Im usually to busy making content for them lol.

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    241
    I bet the dyslexia doesn't jumble white space does it...?
    Better known as paragraphs...
    That was hard work to read..

    ...................White space sells...........

    I'll keep you right.....

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    You are lucky to be a child of your time.

    In the past, your diagnosis would be labelled “excuse”, your sickness called “convenience” and the remedy for it, “a slap”...

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    245 Shadow

    Don't mind “Thing 1 and Thing 2”, they are Attention-seekers“ both, and struggling to find something/anything to say.
    Both are self-proclaimed bigotted Trolls, both are haters of the ”English”.

    Most Brits on here don't indulge them anymore.

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    unfortunately troy I fell for the bait I wont do so again there grasp of our language is poor anyway but they have proved to me exactly the character of the malvanistas. Im glad I grew up in a country that helped me to cope with my issues instead of belittling them I doubt I would have been able to have a further education in there homeland . This just gives me ANOTHER reason top support the Falkland Islanders

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  • GFace

    @249 SW, You can be E.S.L. and be able to communicate provided you have an argument. The problem with the Malvanistas is that there isn't much to communicate because they can't argue and they have no logical case in 2014 (let alone 1982 and earlier). Not even the “thoughtful Malvanista,” Axel, can do much beyond cherry pick and lie about UN resolutions, the charter, the ramifications of the 2008 vote, the C24 and unalienable human rights of the Islanders, not to mention the Junta that he says he opposed, the invasion he says he opposed but still thinks should not have been repulsed but should have but shouldn't have but should have but but but...

    We have had a couple people here who are NOT Malvanistas or otherwise in the hypernationalist fascists like “CD” not long ago but even then they exhibit a level of insensitivity to the Islanders here who lived through 1982 that they start burning bridges here too. More still, we keep hearing from some of these people like CD (and this “paul” fellow) claim that the Islanders just don't mean much (except when it does) but none of them have been able to explain or seem to want to answer why there is no groundswell of pushback against the government when it rings the Malvanista Bell to distract against its train wreck domestic and southern cone policies. Even for them, it's something that brings maddening cognitive dissonance. If only they'd all realize that “NO means NO” and what the Islanders do on the Islands they've lived on and developed for almost 200 years and in their EEZ is none of their business (especially since their government tore up the cooperative agreements with the islanders -- another thing for which the “FI doesn't matter to us” folk likewise won't take their government to task). Even the “moderates” provide a solid case against dehumanizing the Islanders handing them over to the Argentines.

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  • Stevie

    Why aren't you lot actively doing anything to stop the slaugther of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan, with that argument? A 4-year old executed on his front door...
    Is it because you lot are as big a fascists as the lot that repræsentant you?

    Jan 19th, 2014 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    @251 More whataboutery. And you'd be wrong as usual. We in the liberal democracies have a vibrant and loud protest culture combined with a culture of self-reflection that gained fast traction and liberal (small L) governments have ignored that street to their peril. Even when a person disagrees with them we accede even grudgingly what they do for us as pluralsitic nations. We have swapped governments not to mention pulled out of Iraq and are disengaging from Afghanistan in no small part due to that protest culture being mainstreamed. Where was YOUR (or LatAm's) protest culture in 1982? Oh yes, it was in the streets cheering over the invasion of its Poland with the pride only nationalist fascism could pull off. Argentina swapped out the Junta only after they let them down and lost them their mythical “lost” land that was never theirs. And as demonstrated here, despite some people claiming that there is no interests in the Islanders, there remains a constant rewarding of the Argentine government with rejecting peace with the Islanders in favor of fantasies of restoring the former glory of holding a gun to a unarmed Falkland's temple (this time they claim through “diplomacy” just like their counterparts did at Munich). We learned our lessons in Iraq and Afghanistan within a few years and have changed our tack dramatically. You gave had DECADES more time to contemplate the impact of Argentina's crimes against the islanders and international law in 1982 and how it makes them look like embittered neonazis and still it is so proud of it, your neighbors in Argentina proudly celebrate on coins which are accepted and spent with pride by all. Show me the US and British coins celebrating the invasion if Iraq. You'll find them with the ones the Germans use to celebrate invading Denmark: They don't exist.

    Day of the liberal protesters, meet the eternal midnight of the “reformed but unrepentant” Malvanazi.

    Jan 19th, 2014 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    12 years killing children. I guess your protests are as influential as the drivel you lot post on this threads...
    But what to expect from the re-inventors of excuses.

    By the way, I got Greek blood.

    We invented democracy.

    I got Italian blood.

    We invented the aqueduct. That was before visiting your islands and teaching you how to invent anything other than a new way to kill.

    I have Spanish blood.

    We invented... .... .......... ..... well, the Spaniards are great all-arounders...

    Jan 19th, 2014 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    @253 Well you of the “Spanish Blood” ARE the go-to-guys when it comes guilt-free genocide in the western hemisphere, on that I gotta hand it to you. I mean the Yanks agonize over it even though culturally the anglosphere only has the US and Canada (and Alaska may not even count all the way since we can argue that the Ruskies softened them up). But you guys? Wow. Hail the Conquistador but do mind the bodies.

    Plenty of whataboutery to go around.

    But at the end of the day, all that matters is that the Falklands are free today, and free forever, and always beyond your reach -- strangely even when their democratically elected people visit your countries (I still say that's very VERY odd, LatAm Solidarity and all...). And there is absolutely NOTHING you our your eternally frustrated (and obediently distracted) neighbors can do about it.

    Jan 19th, 2014 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    I couldn't care less as long as the war-mongerers go home, personally...

    Jan 19th, 2014 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    @255 Then tell the warmongers, both passive aggressive and military, next door hands off the Falklands who are home and want to live in peace free from harassment from Argentina. The lessons from the ancient warmongersers relatives like the greeks and romans should have at least have taught you THAT. You certainly learned all the wrong lessons from your warmongering conquistador forefathers.

    Jan 19th, 2014 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Excuses.
    Argentina has no militar intensions. She's not militarizing.
    And nobody cares for your old excuses, we too have our demons and that doesn't seem to bother you in your selective cloud aiming.

    Jan 19th, 2014 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • alan

    @253 Stevie
    Greek blood - Military Junta - ended 1974
    Italian blood - Musolini ended 1945
    Spanish blood - Franco Militart rule ended 1975
    Now I know why Argentinians like Military Dictatorships so much.

    Jan 19th, 2014 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    But no, allow to to be as selective as yourselves.
    Those criminals cares in their own names, the rest of us only attended the invention bit...

    Jan 19th, 2014 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    You 'people' invented Fascism??

    well, if you say so...

    Sounds a bit racist though - are you sure you want to take ALL the credit for that???

    Jan 19th, 2014 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Are you saying democracy is fascism?
    I think that's something you need to clear up with yourself, Troy, I can only disagree...

    Jan 19th, 2014 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @255

    With a mighty 1500 personnel and 4 aeroplanes to terrorise a whole continent, it's no surprise you're not sleeping easily.

    Jan 19th, 2014 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #255
    Let's get down to specifics about warmongering.

    What have the UK govt. or the Falkland Islanders done to merit his rather cavalier opinion in the case of the current affairs viz a viz the Falklands.
    To the best of my knowledge, the last bit of warmongering was carried out by Argentina in 1982.

    Have the UK threatened to mount any unprovoked attack, harassed any Argentine vessel or aircraft ; made any suggestion or threat, or given any indication to so do.

    All they have stated is that they will defend their sovereignty against any Argentine aggression. To do so, they have maintained a garrison with the minimum force to carry out this task. They have no offensive capability to land any forces on the South American mainland.

    Last year, an Argentine minister stated that the only thing keeping them from occupying the Falklands was the British forces stationed there.
    THAT sounds rather like warmongering.

    Could you confine your answer to this specific case and not obfuscate your reply by going off at a tangent and bringing in other examples NOT RELATED to this.

    Jan 19th, 2014 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    CFK should send him alone as soon as the Brits leave.

    Jan 19th, 2014 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @263

    Allow me to add a subsidiary question.

    If the UK is intent on war-mongering, why didn't we do a lot more of it back in 1982, when we had a whole Task Force down there in place, and Argentina was already defeated?

    Jan 19th, 2014 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Personally, I'd say that's the agreement you made with the junta...

    Jan 19th, 2014 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @266

    That would be the junta that fell from power on defeat?

    Jan 19th, 2014 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    these imbeciles talking about fascismo and nazismo when they worship people like cromwell, churchill, blair and cameron, for example, are some kind of bad joke.
    in argentina we suffered a dictatorship that killed 30.000 argentinians.
    you have been reponsible of million of dearhs around the globe.
    all the genocidas were judged and jailed in argentina.
    and there you have blair living like a king and cameron as prime minister.
    britain was a curse for the world.
    even worse than the nazis, considering the number of killings.

    Jan 20th, 2014 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @268 paulcedron

    DEFLECT!! DEFLECT!!!

    And also ignore the millions that your forefathers murdered too: namely the native Amerindians. GENOCIDE on a massive scale.

    Yes bury your head in the sand, that always helps. Deny the truth. And remember that the 'crimes' you accuse others of happened well over a century ago, in Argentina it was just over 30 years ago. When everyone was meant to be more civilized.

    Yet all of your bluster and 'holier than thou' attitude and 'whataboutery' is nothing than a feeble attempt to deny the truth.

    That truth is the Argentina is a financial wreck, with dreams of conquering other peoples territory, an impotent wannabe. A 'never was' country that couldn't even make it to 'has been' status.

    How very sad. No wonder you are so defensive.

    Jan 20th, 2014 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Stevie is the embodiment of the reason why Britain maintains a defence of the Falklands.

    He is dishonest beyond measure
    He is a racist
    He is thick
    He is arrogant
    He hates himself and has an inferiority complex
    He is both a bully and a coward.

    Stevie is just the type of person who'd love to round up the Falkland Islanders and use them as a human shield, Stevie would be first in line to plant unmapped minefields, Stevie would be taking a crap all over folks homes...first chance he got

    Stevie is a fascist.

    However, as above Stevie is also a coward...the idea of a tiny British military DEFENCE in the Falklands terrifies him, and keeps his racist, fascist fantasies where they belong...in Latam.

    He would lie, and try and paint the defence force as aggressive...in his words “pointing guns at HIS continent”.

    How funny...a pathetic coward...dishonest, misplaced arrogance...yet resorting to trolling to highlight his impotence.

    Poor poor Stevie...hates himself he does!

    Jan 20th, 2014 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #255
    See my post at #263. Would you care to answer that question instead of going off at a tangent.

    Jan 20th, 2014 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Monkey
    And you are inglés, that about sums you up....

    Jan 20th, 2014 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    Of all the malvinista trolls around “Cauldron” seems to be the most brainwashed in his conception of the British in spite of his apparent erudition. His rants are really quite amusing in their paucity!

    Jan 20th, 2014 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    And Paul what are YOU doing with those 2-peso coins celebrating your invasion of your Poland again? (What as 30,000 Argentines not enough for you, you needed some more? Was invading the islands going to magically turn them into not-so-neoliberal democrats?) Do you accept them when getting change? Spend them when they jingle in your pocket? Of course you are. Funny the Germans or Japanese don't have any of those for their Czechoslovakia or Nanjing.... What does that say of them - and you? As for Churchill. Yes. Churchill. Remember him. The person who stood up to Nazism when at the same time that we now know your government was pondering joining with the Axis by invading the islands in WW2 (lucky for all parties, especially yours, they didn't). But then for someone that says the Islands mean little to the baseline Argentine (something with which I rather agree).. . you are on quite a few Falkland thread sniffing and snipping. Well Well.. I guess people living free of your government's fascist colonialist appetites DOES get under your craw (just a little). A stark contrast from other “moderate” Argentines like CD, Simon and pgerman.

    Jan 20th, 2014 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    ***Monkey, And you are inglés, that about sums you up***...Stevie, yr #272 is really profound...funny thing is, you claim to have an English aunt, and be a descendant of Greeks and Spaniards...seems you don't know who you really are...and you always go off at a tangent whenever you are confronted with facts....which only goes to prove you must've been “brainwashed” from the time you were a child.....your parents obviously exagerated on the enemas...and your wee brain went down the toilet.

    Jan 20th, 2014 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    I'm from everywhere.

    It's not me having an issue with that fact, it's you lot...

    Jan 20th, 2014 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    So you're from everywhere ?? a man of the world ? I doubt it, 'cause if you were, you probably wouldn't be so limited.

    Jan 20th, 2014 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    272 Stevie

    “Monkey
    And you are inglés, that about sums you up.... ”

    And you are a racist bigot - that about sums you up....

    Jan 20th, 2014 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Stevie

    your post @213 made me laugh my arse off.

    If these forums..as you suggest...give an interaction between Latam citizens and British citizen with reference to the Falklands...how do you think you come across?

    We have ABSOLUTELY no interest in de-indoctrinating you. We are happy with the status quo. We have sovereignty, and the islands are well defended. It is “you lot” that want change.

    You want the UK military to leave the islands
    Some Argentine posters want “dialogue”
    Marcos and Jose want ethnic cleansing, and even genocide according to some posts.

    Stevie, time and time again you have proven yourself to be a dishonest, lying, cowardly turd. Prepared to tell any lie, throw any misinformation and make a complete moron of yourself...hmmm...if you are representative would I lower my defences?

    Would I trust you not to invade if you thought youd get away with it?

    Would I trust you not to plant more minefields, booby trap more minefields, use more human shields...

    NO STEVIE I wouldn't...I wouldnt trust you as far as I could spit...because you are a lying turd.

    However, i also know you are a coward. So even the smallest defence force will terrify you into not showing your true colours.

    Thanks for your tiny input into latam-UK relations. You have made it damn clear that our defensive stance is the right one.

    Turd!

    Jan 20th, 2014 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    In one thing I totally disagree with CFK.
    The Falklanders do indeed exist.
    The ones who should be classified as a ghost entity on SA are war-mongering Brits.
    You see Monkey, I well and truly don't care what you believe. It's not important to me at all. Your words have about as much impact on me as your current King George...
    The only Latam-Inglés relation is Go Home.

    I have no issues with Scots, Welsh or Irish. And I don't hate Ingleses. Pity is not hate.

    Jan 20th, 2014 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Stevie

    You are a racist turd, you are obsessed with your jealousy and bitterness. We laugh at you.

    Of course what I believe has had a huge impact on you Stevie....because I have continually shown what an ignorant racist turd you are, and humiliated you on a daily basis....you have pretended to go from angry spotty Uruguayan student...to bigoted troll.

    I love the transformation....PMSL...even pretending that some of your extreme views are not yours and just to “provoke a response”

    You are fooling nobody Stevie.

    Your “real” views

    1) you are a top ranking scientist engineer, who's vocation is to revolutionise Uruguays energy supply.

    reality exposed by me

    1b) you are a spotty student who has written his school project on wind turbines.

    Your claim:

    2) you have developed a politics untried anywhere in the world, that will deliver prosperity for all.

    Reality shown by me

    2b) you are a childish virgin who has never left Uruguay, and is clueless to anything he hasn't read on various militant websites...between wanks.

    Your claim:

    3) eating foreign food dilutes your racial purity

    Later adjusted to

    3b) you don't like fish and chips...when even you realised that the odd kebab doesn't lead to Sharia Law...lol

    There are plenty more Stevie....your various obsessions with the Middle East, your complete blindness to Uruguays impotence on a global scale....your hilarious attempts to distinguish between English, Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish....straight out of the Campora loon handbook.

    Sadly Stevie, you are, and remain an ignorant racist bigot...and you and I both know your feeble life amounts to very little outside his own bedroom...on your own.

    Poor Stevie...humiliated, completely ridiculous and a racist moron...life's not too good for you is it..LOL LOL LOL.

    Jan 20th, 2014 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    @281. “The Globalization of Toby” Oy Vey.

    Jan 20th, 2014 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    My favourite Stevism....is when he actually believes he speaks for Latam, or better still “the rest of the world”.

    This further unlined the misplaced arrogance of the deluded cock.

    Apparently, according to racist Steve, the only message from Latam to the English...is “go home”

    This is interesting Stevie. Who appointed you spokesman for Latam?

    Where was this “Go home” message when UK companies signed multi million dollar trade deals in Mexico, Brazil and Chile. Looks like they weren't listening to “spotty Stevies bedroom rants” Lol

    Unlike, Stevie...I've left my own country and travelled the world, I've been involved in large engineering projects in both Mexico and Brazil...yet in all that time, nobody once mentioned the Malvinas nor echoed Stevies racist views.....but of course Stevie “speaks for Latam”.

    Poor Stevie....toggling between Mercopress, Militantracistbullshit.com, and gaylatinodonkeyporn.com, confused, yet still trolling.

    Hehehehehehe...“I speak for the world”.....PMSL

    Jan 20th, 2014 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    Sweet lord 58. Do you not realize.
    now list all my comments which used the conditional tense.

    Jan 20th, 2014 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Monkey
    You done?
    ....
    Great!

    All that and much more, or less. Give or take a few.
    But still.

    Go home.

    Jan 20th, 2014 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Lol

    All you've got racist troll??

    As I told you Stevie....we will stick as we are thanks...and there is nothing a dishonest racist bigoted Uruguayan virgin can do about it....except blindly rant on the Internet.

    Poor Stevie...so weak...so pitiful.

    Jan 20th, 2014 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Stevie duck isn't a virgin. He has a daughter that he ignores so he can spend hours a day on here.

    Jan 20th, 2014 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @268

    “when they worship people like cromwell, churchill, blair and cameron”

    I think Cromwell was misguided, Churchil had great points but also made cock ups, Blair is a self serving deflectionist and I don't think much of Cameron.

    However Argentina is still wedded to Peronism which was influenced by fascism, and Argentina's political rhetoric sounds more like Hitler's than any form of intelligent life.

    The fact that Argentina's politicians make Cameron look good in some aspects, illustrates how incompetent, dogmatic and how still wedded to fascist, imperialist principles, Argentina's government is.

    I have more respect for Falkland Island politicians actually, now they have emerged from hibernation and are an illustration of progress.

    Jan 20th, 2014 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Give it up Stevie, the lads have countered all your silly Anglophobic rants.
    They are not arguments, they are mindless rants.
    Are you related to Think?
    You do sound a lot like that devious, lying old windbag.
    But if it makes you feel better...................yes, we're responsible for....erm, let me see, yes, everything. We did it all & Germany, Japan, even Argentina are as pure as the sweet dew on mountain flowers.
    You really do come across as a few sandwiches short of a picnic, Stevie.
    What IS your problem?

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    The guys?
    You mean your lawn dogs? Yeah, I keep feeding them raw meat, don't I?
    Hard to chew and a bugger to swallow.

    You call me racist.
    Lets see... I have no hate for the caucacian race. I consider myself a proud member of a caucacian society. Furthermore, I don't blame a whole race for the flaws of a few.

    Lets try xenophobe.
    No, I know precisely who you are and what you stand for, that's the whole reason of my dislike.

    Fascism?
    I'd never waste natural resources to make anything in order to get rid of you lot, contaminating the earth in the process, so no, fascism is a no go too.

    I guess you'll have to invent a new word. A word to describe how somebody dislikes you for what you do and stand for. For killing children in the middle east.
    For living above your productivity, passing the bills to your own kids.
    For stealing natural resources blatantly and preferring to talk about somebody elses inflation rates. For using your creativity to invent new ways to kill.
    For all that and much more.

    Don't mind your dogs, I'll deal with them...

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Stevie

    I call you racist and fascist because thats what you are...but also a terrified liitle child, shitting his pants at the thought of not having someone to blame for his inadequacies.

    Killing children in the Middle East....Seems like Syria is doing a good job killing children on their own...I expect that the “English's fault too”..Or perhaps our fault for not intervening when we could...shit, your entire belief system up the crapper...poor Stevie.

    For living above our productivity...LOL LOL LOL...sorry what....lets see, Britain has always paid its debts on time, and every single penny....Latam??? pmsl...a bunch of thieves who see loans as an optional pay-back.

    Britain doesn't steal natuaral resources Stevie...it accepts contracts from democratically elected governments...including Uruguay...LOL

    For inventing new ways to kill....pmsl....yes Stevie..new ways to defend those in need, to remove tin-pot dictators and deliver democracy, to stop genocide and deliver humanitarian aid....all thinks that you impotence cannot do.

    As far as dealing with us...PMSL...Stevie.

    You are a turd...you couldn't deal with ack of cards...you humiliate yourself on a daily basis...although your misplaced arrogance is absolutely fucking hilarious.

    your school project on wind turbines that revolutionise Uruguays energy
    Your new politics to deliver prosperity to the world
    Your “I speak for Latam” rants
    your “ i speak for the rest of the world” rants
    Your “stop pointing your guns at MY continent”

    you are a pathetic little turd who cries impotently whilst jealousy consumes you.

    You ego only permits racist hatrid to hide you own inadequacies...you are nothing Stevie...a silly boy ranting in the dark...

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Syrian wrongdoings do not excuse your owns.

    3 Trillions in debt is not paying.

    Marionet dictators offering you their natural resources as thanks is a proven way to steal natural resources.

    As for my persona, maybe, maybe not. It changes nothing.

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Stevie

    Syrias wrongdoings do NOT EXCUSE YOURS...yuor impotence, you pathetic inaction on anything and everything, your inability to do anything about genocide and slaughter, anywhere in the world, you complete inaction to support those people who suffer due to natural disasters of the actions of dictators...Please dont pretend you give a shit about the “women and children in the Middle East”...because youve done NOTHING.

    Nothing when Saddam Hussein was gassing them
    Nothing when the taliban was stoning them
    Nothing when Syria are commiting genocide
    Nothing even when your “enemies” the US and English are trying to bring democracy to the region

    Nothing, nothing, nothing...because you are an impotent shit...wailing in the dark.

    its not the size of the debt Stevie, its the ability to pay...we have the ability to pay and do...you havent and don't...which is why our government bonds are worth something.

    You say Marionet..I say democratically elected by the people of the country...millions who voted, and hundreds of thousands who died for democracy would probably find your reference to THEIR government offensive...but then abusing foreigners is your forte.

    As to your persona...not maybe definately...and of course it puts everything you spew into context.

    You are a lying, dishonest, cowardly racist turd with a massive misplaced ego...Therefore everything you write should be taken in that context...that it is complete and total bollocks...the barely literate spewings of a lost and jealous child.

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Stop killing women and children and I'll stop caring. Easy.

    Saddam gassing people doesn't mean you can bomb civilians or kill children on the front door of their house. Lets not use smoke screens here...

    For YOU the size of the debt doesn't matter. Ask your creditors if it doesn't (I think it'd be the Chinese, if not now, at least soon. Or was it your pensionists?)

    As for my persona, maybe, maybe not.
    It changes nothing.

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Stevie..you dont care..stop pretending you do..the smokescreen is your pretence at caring used as a racist rant.

    Just to furhter highlight your ignorance, (I like this one)

    You list you hatred for the English (but have no issue with the Welsh and Scottish).

    You list the military action in Iraq and Afghanistan...and high government borrowing as “reasons” for your racial hatred.

    yet...it was the Labour Government that took us into iraq and Afghanistan, and indeed the labour Governmetn who was responsible for most of the excessive borrowing.

    Now lets look at this Labour Party

    Leader and prime Minister: Tony Blair---SCOTTISH
    Chancellor and Leader-; Gordon Brown --SCOTTISH
    Chancellor: Alastair Darling: SCOTTISH
    Spin Doctor and Communications : Alastair Campbell: SCOTTISH

    Countries where 50% + of people voted Labour : SCOTLAND and WALES

    Countries where the majority of people didnt vote labour : ENGLAND

    So it seems, that you racial hatred of England is somewhat based on the fact they are “English” rather than them being directly to blame for the reasons for your HATE.

    THIS STEVIE IS RACISM...PURE AND SIMPLE.

    Had you hated the UK for the actions of the government based on the fact they represented all of us..its debatable.

    But you actually hate the ENGLISH for the actions of Scotsmen elected by the majortiy of Scottish and Welsh people.

    Ignorant racist rants...changes everything Stevie..>LOL

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Useful idiots are everywhere, just look at you...

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Lol Stevie...

    I hate Uruguy for the actions of Ghengis Khan..but I love Mongolia
    I hate uruguay for the actions of Pol pot...but i love cambodia

    pmsl...your ignorance is astounding and you are a PROVEN racist.

    what a fool you are....a worthless imbecile

    therefore nothing

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    You don't even know what racism is, old bugger.
    You think disliking you makes me a racist. You are you, not a race and I dislike you for what you stand for.

    You really need to stop blaming the caucacian race for your flaws, it's not fair to all the good people out there who, as I, detests your views and intrusive behaviour.

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Monkeymagic, agree with you, lock, stock and barrel - but you are never going to win...you're up against a bloody nutcase...and an incoherent one at that.

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    By all means, join up. You are all the same anyway, only thing to differ you being the screenname...
    Of course you agree with eachother, you're in the same boat, towards the same horizon escaping from the same guilt...

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    stevie you say you just hate the english not the rest of us problem is numbnuts (this is why i picked up on your inability to properly understand English) Im mostly celt my mother is Welsh her father was Irish my fathers Family are Scots with a dash of English I am !!!BRITISH!!! and non of us like the views you espouse. You are a small minded twat with no understanding of the realities of the world (or maybe you do and thats why your constantly having a tantrum) Monkeymagig really does have you down to a T

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Stevie,

    You have lost every argument with every poster you have challenged and provoked.

    Why? Because you are a racist and you cannot back up your bigotry and wishful thinking.

    You are so intent on trying to 'win' your point that you don't even think about what you are saying. You omit facts that don't fit your argument.

    You only fool yourself

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Hate is just such a strong word.
    I dislike you lot.
    I despise the way your representatives send your troops to kill innocent women and children.
    I disapprove of the way you lot conduct yourselves in public and amongst yourselves.

    Patting eachothers shoulders will change nothing, nobody expectation anything less from you.

    You are what you are. That in itself is sad enough, from a human perspective.
    Now stop blaming everybody else for your flaws.

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    no dislike is not a strong enough description of you vitriol. You have no idea how we conduct ourselves in public as you've never been here dickhead. You have spent far to much time having untruths jammes into your peanut brain. As for my flaws LMAO now you are going to tell somebody who you've never met what their flaws are your fkn priceless you really are you know my house hold income do you? you know how much we donate to charities on a monthly basis do you? you know so much don't you stevei my other half was in knots reading your rants the other day. My other half is properly multilingual as she's (in her words) British-Italian. And all these people that apparently dislike the Brits sorry numbnuts its all in your head I have friends all over and none of them Ive asked incl those in SA agree with you other than your fellow racist bigots!

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Of course I've been there, Shadow.
    Amazing place, the canals a pure wonder. Another thing that caught my attention was, as I mentioned, the selection of foodstuff in the shelves.
    But the biggest impression was left by the heavy, heavy drinking people.
    No matter where I looked...
    I understand your other half was in knots. For that very same reason, being your other half, I'd be surprised depression didn't cause it...
    And charity.... Stay home and keep your blood money, you're sickening.

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    who I choose to help with my money is my business not yours numbnuts. She was in knots due to your lack of knowledge dumpling. As for laughter been a symptom of depression wow you astound me with your intellectual brilliance (thats called sarcasm by the way) apart from the weekends I don't think I see a drunk on the street at all and if they're causing grief plod comes n picks em up so no little person I call bullshit. And as for those who go ut at the weekend if they go overboard its usually cos they've been workin all week and unable to drink (going out is more expensive than having a few at home) you really are an idiot who reads the propaganda and believes it all. lol. This just demonstrate's your low levels of mental faculty. Hers some free advice go get medicated semi sodium valproate combined with sertraline and quetiapine really are a good way to help you manage your obvious problems. Id make it a decent dose if I were you tho your more disturbed than anybody I met in hospital!!!

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Will that make me type like you?

    Blame the hospital...

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Stevie

    You have said that you “dislike” the English. You have said that you don't “dislike” the Scottish, Welsh or Irish.

    You have said that the reasons you dislike the English is because of their military intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan...where they have in your view “murdered women and children”....and also because of their high level of Government debt.

    So...I have pointed out to you that the three British people most responsible for military action in Iraq and Afghanistan were in fact Scottish. They represented a government that was voted for by the majority of people in Scotland and Wales, but not the majority of people in England.

    It is the self same people together with Alastair Darling (another Scot) who ware responsible for the high level of National debt.

    However, despite these facts,..you only “dislike” the English.

    You also keep mentioning a four year old accidentally killed in the middle east by US forces, as being the fault f the English...when ethnically the English make up a small proportion (much smaller than German, Spanish or Irish) of the American population.

    So it can only therefore be concluded, that your RACIAL HATRED for the English has absolutely nothing to do with the wars in the Middle East, or indeed the high level of national debt....if it were you'd have equal hatred for the Scottish, Welsh, Irish or Germans.

    Nope....your racial hatred is based on ignorance, as racial hatred always is.

    Ignorance of facts, ignorance of history, ignorance of life.

    A RACIST TURD...poor ignorant Stevie

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    still trying to wind me up by using my disabilities stevie? It wont work but it does aptly demonstrates your character for everybody to see. Funny thing is you just don't get that it just makes you look more of an idiot. Monkey is right the new labor govt that screwed up was predominantly scottish (at the top anyway) but you use there recent mistakes to vilify a whole country that the guilty parties didn't come from Monkeymagic is right to call u out for it. You asserted you had no issue with those of us of celtic decent, but that only lasted for as long as it took for one of us to disagree with you then you resorted to trying to belittle me for my disabilities AGAIN you really are a bam! FYI dyslexia and bi-polar 2 different and totally unrelated issues numbnuts. As for the Hospital I think us in the UK are luckier than most having the NHS they may be stretched but they are for the most part competent , compassionate and effective 3 things I think you are incapable of even recognising let alone trying to emulate

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Oh dear, Stevie backed into a corner AGAIN!!

    ...and now he's squirming and splitting hairs to get out of it

    LOL

    What a hypocrit you are, Stevie !!!

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Go easy on Stevie...he has actually on recently realised that he is a racist. It's all come as a bit of a shock.

    The reason that he hates himself, the reason he feels so inferior, the reason he has to pretend on the Internet to be an “energy guru”, the reason for all his misplaced bravado is all flawed.

    He like to blame the English...or the boogeyman....or some made up enemy.

    He masturbated over his militant websites where his indoctrination grew, and then he spewed it all over this website.

    sadly for him, his lies have been exposed, his indoctrination ripped apart, and even he now knows what he is....an indoctrinated pathetic racist.

    He now has the pleasure of seeing himself as others see him”..... A racist. Ignorant pathetic and indoctrinated.

    It's all been a bit of a shock for Stevie....LOL

    Lol

    Lol

    Poor Stevie...hope he doesn't turn to self harming or suicide....the world would miss out on his Nobel prize winning physics and economic ideas.

    PMSL....poor poor Stevie.

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    His comments trying to play on our national difrences in th UK really were starting to anoy me to be honest Troy he thinks a bit of banter at football games and the like is real. I look at it this way (probably due to mixed ancestry) we are kinda like a family its ok for us to pick on each other as long as its not nasty but if somebody from the outside tries it we stand together! Same goes for the Falkland Islander's,so as I see things they are pickin on my cousins and I dont like it!! Us celts really do have a temper when pushed to far, thought that dumplings like stevie would have learnt that in previous encounter

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Stevie, I'm curious....you have stated you “dislike” all of “us”, i.e., everyone who disagrees with you....so, who DO you like ? only those who share your views, no matter how flawed they are ?? now, be honest.....

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    There's 7 of you morons, you are no race...

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    admit it stevie you've lost now had yer weesht min

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Bless.

    And stop blaming humanity for your flaws.

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    309
    Oh for goodness sake stop bleating and playing the victim...nobody cares, if you want sympathy... here's 20p...go phone someone that gives a shit.....
    I have a disability...my dick's is too big for most women, but you don't hear me whinging about it all the time...;-)

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Stevie (racist turd)

    I think you will find that the UN are way ahead of you. They define racism as prejudice against a race or ethnicity.

    Whilst you are correct, that you and I are both Caucasian and therefore share a race, we do not share ethnicity.

    So your claim to dislike the English (which could easily be defined as an Ethnicity) is, according to the UN an example of racism.

    The fact that the reasons you gave for your racism are equally, if not more greatly relevant to races you claim not to “dislike”....your views are therefore prejudicial.

    Simply put...you are a racist. Proven beyond any reasonable doubt. It's been fun Stevie.....showing you for what you are....the filth of humanity.

    A-voice

    In all likelihood you misheard...

    You heard “you dick is too big for most women”

    What was actually said was

    “you're too big a dick for most women”

    Easy mistake to make.

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    318
    ...still harping about racists....you have issues....how's the immigrant family doing..?
    ...before you say it...I'm not a racist, I quite enjoy racing..not keen on horse racing though...

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    You think I care where your neighbours comes from or what colour his skin has?
    I dislike you. And every thing you represent. You lot are despicable, not my fault. People like you exist everywhere. Because idiocy doesn't discriminate.

    Stop blaming humanity. Your flaws are yours to correct, society shouldn't adapt.

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    aww out comes a fellow bigot lol. Do you nea like it fan I type in scotts aww fit a shame. Nea my fault you dinea recognise that particular English dialect can you no get it to work on google translate LMFAO

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    321
    Are you trying to teach me to suck eggs?
    By scott...were your referring to Walter Scott...?
    Scott is a surname...Jeez....

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Don't you like it when I type in bad-spelt English awww what a shame. Not my fault you didn't recognise that particular English dialect can't you get it to work on google translate

    Got it right here, from gibberish to English.com.uy

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    A voice

    Immigrant family...is that the best you have lol...

    Yep, you are right, my sister is married to a second generation Polish immigrant who's parents fled the Nazis, my business partner is married to a Brazillian and one of the guys who works for me is Irish...

    Erm...my GP is an Indian Sikh, one of my best pals is a second generation Pakistani Muslim, and the girl who works behind the counter of my favourite coffee shop is Ukrainian.

    I am not sure wish of these foreigners you could “smell”.

    Stevie

    You've been owned pal...shown up for what you are....no need to continue to troll...hehehehehehe...

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    lol another rg poster demonstrating their lack of understanding lol (yet to meet one here who is able to hold a decent conversation without resorting to schoolyard insults) Im no even gonna bother explaining why your wrong dumpling your lack of knowledge amuses me. I could post in Doric as thats what I grew up speaking but out of respect for other posters I use the most widely understood form of English as opposed to the dialect I learnt as a kid. But I think Im asking to much for people like you to even comprehend the full meaning of words like respect you seem incapable of even understanding more fundamental concepts lol

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    ...and your wife....what nationality would she be.....don't lie to me now...;-)))

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Look what we have achieved so far, Monkey.
    You realized it's not ok to kill children. That one is important.
    Next you also know we know you are in the shitter with your bills.
    Now, I don't care what you call me, that bill is not going to be paid by stolen money.
    Just know we know. That is all that matters.

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    My wife is British A voice...sorry to disappoint you.

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    Now she is...more like...white is she...?
    Don't bother.....I know you have issues...

    325
    Not another Scottish Wannabe...Doric...where did you grow up....and what about the Scott gaffe....
    Ignore it shall we....

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    wasnea a “gaffe” lmao you are just digging deeper n deeper with the Dorric reference as well. You're like a scurrie aw noise runs a mile when actually confronted wonder if bicarb would effect you in the same way ;)

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Stevie...look at what we've achieved.....

    We have achieved a recognition that YOU HATE the English

    Apparently, according to you, the English are to blame for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars (but the Scottish, Welsh arent, and neither are the Irish Americans, the German Americans or the Spanish Americans)

    Apparently, according to you, the English are “in the shitter” with their debt....but the English have paid every bond, every day, right on time...yet the Irish (who you don't hate) need a bail out from the Uk, the Argentines who you love, (needed a default) and the British economy is one of the fastest growing in the Western world.

    So what we've established is...you hate the English...not colour or race but ethnicity.

    It's funny....you think it's fine to kill children as long as you're not English, you think it's fine to be in the shitter with your bills as long as your not English.

    We know what you are Stevie.....hahahahahahaha

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    ....here we go....grew up where...Aberdeen...Dundee...Peterhead...where..?
    ....be very careful which you choose, as I may catch you out....

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    lol figure it out A_Voice Ive given you more than enough clues min. I thought you thought you were clever LMAO

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    what?...you are really Escoses doido the Doric speaking mad Scotsman from Peterhead....?
    ...and you are having a laarf.....

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    I never lived in peterheed try again min your no at far aff base like. Aye trawlermen is a good prog glad you get nea bad TV where you are at least youve still nea idea far I come fea do you?
    Ill gi u a wee while ta try n figure it out ;) Im awa out for a pint catch use all ina wee while :)

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    336
    .....The Broch.....
    ...I don't often watch TV and have never seen the programme you refer to.....

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JIB

    Today at the Financial Times. Premier Oil is considering to abandon oil exploration at the Falkland Islands under risk of Premier's Board of Directors being prosecuted under argentinian new legal framework.

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @336 ShadowWalker,
    Geordie?

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    339
    Geordie...Ah divvunt knaa ya knaa......
    No Isolde.....Doric....
    Geordie....is something completely different....

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    my mistake must be your handlers lmao took em long enough to give you the wrong answer tho eh? If you actually had spent any time in the northeast min you'd ken fine far Im fea ;) certain word isnt used that far up the coast very often at all lol. Give it up min you've been rumbled lmfao

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    you've been rumbled ...con artist...
    you keep mixing Glasgow and the North-East....

    “I never lived in peterheed try again min your ”no“ at far aff base”
    Glasgow “no”..North-East..“nae”

    Give it up..you are not fooling me.....Yer aff yer heid....

    ...Friggin Broons..frae Dundee.....

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    how di I mix weegie wi dorric fucknuts???
    you've never been there Ill tell you how I ken you havnea cos you cannea identify my use of sentence structure as its spoken no how it tends to be written!!! I grew up 40miles inland fea Aberdeen fucknuts you divnea ken fit your talkin about every answer you give is all net searched all of it at least the north east tourist sights got some advertising revenue from your searches tho dont bother answerin liar cos youve proved yoursell wrong

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    Glasgow say No...the North East says....Nae.....quite upset when you are caught out...;-)))
    Another Scottish Wannabe.....where are you now dickhead...I'm in Scotland where are you ....liar.....
    Save your make believe for the tourists and keep off the Doric sites....you just sound like a dick....which of course you are....

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    see youve no been te Aberdeen min have ye? you dinea say nea twice in the same sentence lol the second time you use it u divnea finesh the whol sound and there's no key that represents the sound lol. I dont care fit u think to be honest min I counea gi a fk. If you did visit you were one of the poor tourist who canea even afford a macaroni pie lmao let alone stovies aye jog on min

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    Why the feck would I go to Aberdeen....it a shit hole...but I was in Dundee a few weeks ago....

    There we go with the no again....
    Look what I found while I was waiting for more crap from you....

    ” In Doric people use a sound 'ee' where in other parts of Scotland you will hear 'ae' giving the pronunciations een (ane), neen (nane), teen (taen). Some Doric speakers say meen (moon), seen (soon), gweed (good) where in other parts of Scotland you will hear muin, suin and guid. A Glaswegian will say he's no comin but an Aberdonian says he's nae comin.”
    http://www.ayecan.com/listen_to_scots/north_east.html
    ...haha ...will yer no come back again....;-))))

    Ever been to Glasgow...?
    BTW you didn't say where you were...did you....

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    see your right you proved it “problem is” with most of that stuff its the older folk who do th compiling language bits to get it all published tend to be the folks who pore over regional dictionaries they tend to be a bit on the posh side you walk in to tilly n try that some one would put you straight pretty quick lmao same goes for Dundee not the best city in Scotland but dude you're in no position to judge here (I meen glass houses n all that eh) but I lived there for a while the people are freindly enough. Same for Aberdeen not a bad place to go out as long as your not a dick ;)... So you've discovered I now live in Gloucestershire (thanx for invading my privacy GCHQ this fucker tried to trace me :) thanx for any help if your not to busy :). ) Ive said so before on here where I live near. My other halfs job is kinda specific so we stay close to where she works and as your a funny little man with inefficient handlers I say goodbye until another story I've laughed enough :). By the way just in case no if used in certain context is “not” it really depends on the structure of the statement thats been made thats why I post in English its the rules of the Board and it aids efficient communication. Im sure we'll chat again but not on this story ;) its been fun min, now get ti fk ;).

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    Meaningless drivel...
    You are not the first and you'll not be the last...paranoid or what.....
    Do yourself a favour and stay under my radar....and stick with your generalisations...

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    To add more confusion! In Glasgow they say no in different ways. eg
    For“ no, it is not” , a keelie would say “ naw, it isnae”
    http://www.rampantscotland.com/parliamo/blparliamo_men.htmhttp:/
    /www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfCk_yNuTGk
    OR an Englishman's view of the world
    /www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CS1cUIxBVghttp:/

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    lol to ineficient to do a facebook search im pretty sure my profiles locked but the basics are there lol . Ever likely you lot suck is this the best your govt properganda arm has to offer a public online forum user name that cant even keep the staff manning within a controlled ability level lmfao there's a few of you on here its funny it really is. I just dont get what you and your handlers hope to achieve all you do is publicly humiliate yourselves. Seriously what do you hope to achieve? What do you think bullying will get you? Thats the problem at the route of this. Like all bullies you have somthing inside that hurts so much you need to lash out share the pain cos if you dont you feel like youll explode. Here's a tip fix whats wrong at home get rid of the idiots rethink your veiws, really look at them and think “is this a justified belief?” if you do this renounce this nonsence malwhatever and approach the islanders and they may help you (they may not its up to them personally Ive had a few Im in short pished if I had a vote Id say bugger off) but no you prefer this you are not you nonsense cos you “claim” to have been here and I say if you have you made no effort to make any contact with the locals (probably to busy lookin for faults) so you know what your opinion doesnt count lol.

    PS. side note I think stevie beats you on intelligence lol n considerin hes probably a spotty 15 yo sat nickin internet off a local business that really does say it all lmao
    Any way some of us have real lives away from the pc so Im offski see ya again soon numty :)

    Hows that for “generalisations..” lmao :D >

    Jan 21st, 2014 - 11:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    349
    ...or he disnae know...;-)
    ...Al Murray...Englishman's view yes...but he's very funny and it's all an act....went to public school and then Oxford for his MA....
    His great great great grandfather was the 3rd Duke of Atholl....funnily enough..his father was Lord George Murray the Jacobite General....
    350
    ...there is not a facebook page that I can't access....
    ..you are really paranoid...everyone leaves a trail
    ...please understand...you are insignificant and not worth tracing....
    ...sleep easy....and enjoy pitting yourself against international adversaries...
    ...it's a news forum for goodness sake...;-)))

    Jan 22nd, 2014 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    lmao avoice right last time if u want to cheack same goes for anybody else who may be curious :). I grew up in a small place called millbrex near another small place called fyvie my real name is Adam Whitehouse but you'll find me on FB as both shadow walker and under my real name (hint same dog in both pics) both profiles are well over 2 years old and both profiles clearly state where i live and where I graduated from in 2005 now if your to lazy to check fine but it really wouldnt take you long another hint “hometown Aberdeen” now u wanna try again?
    It really matters to you that I grew up there doesnt it? Fuck me your so funny lmao. You are aware that there are supporters of the no campaign arnt you? Or are you that blinkered by hatred that you have to believe we've all fallen for the fat salmon?
    Dude remember the other day when I said I wasnt gonna feed the wildlife? Now I see why you were so desperate for me to. lol.. Your just in need of attention awww aint that sweet. Didnt mummy hug you enough growing up? bibbles LMFAO by the way I also used to work in inver lol that might help your handlers locate me (they need every bit of help they can get ;) lol.). Now all I have to wonder is are you capable and are you to much of a coward to admit your wrong :D>

    Jan 22nd, 2014 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @352 ShadowWalker,
    Too much information, mate.
    You don't know who is trolling these pages.
    Sorry to stick my nose in but l feel that you've made yourself too vunerable.
    Says she who also on facebook.
    Peace.

    Jan 22nd, 2014 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    no apology nesasary Isolde I responded before I took my meds this morning. I should know better it was a mistake I let my anger over rule my head. Only silver lining I can see is now my cards on on the table so to speak. As for the discussion on scottish independence, this is not the forum for such a debate and if I may be blunt is none of your concern A_Voice or any other variation of the same. That said it follows that the Islanders position would be supported by all 3 sides of the debate. Why you ask? well its simple really the referendum is in principle the very same mechanism the Islanders utilized to show there intentions you and your kind have declared such a mechanism to be nul envoid so by association you apply the same logic to the question of union so in short fucknuts this is something we are likely to agree on :) I bet one of your little helpers likes to wear green ;) (n thats coming from the grandson of an Irish miner lol remove the sectarian n u see it can be interpreted in a whole new way ;).) you tried to prove Im not British lol why what was the point really I have said everything honestly (those who make the most noise n all that eh ;).) you and those like you just dont like the fact that the world isnt your shade of black and white. Now thats me done with you on here Ill leave it to others to feed the wildlife :). Thanx again for the warning Isolde hope you have a good day, Peace to you n yours. Blessed be :)

    Jan 22nd, 2014 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    That medication is la bomba!
    Are you talking to Isolde or A_voice?

    As for your personal details, no need to worry, I have yet to see a conq (lunatic driven by sudden, irrational impulses) on “our” side. No harm will come your way, but I would suggestiv to get the post removed anyway...

    Jan 22nd, 2014 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    355
    OMG...what have you infected me with....he was your problem, have him back!
    I can't tell which is worse...the pre-med post or the post-med one....
    ...you keep him talking, while I call the men in white coats....;-)
    ...Effing lunatic alert!...warning... approach with caution....

    Jan 22nd, 2014 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    hello stevie nice to see you again :) Isolde will be able to figure out which bits were for her n well A_Voice needs the practice (ideas above his station that one lol). If enough of my fellow posters think it should be removed im sure it will be, your concern touches me deeply ;). My total apathy on the subject should demonstrate how seriously I take the likes of you I mean come on seriously. I will be forwarding this on to my local MP as soon as I get chance the sort of behaivior and beliefs you and your amigos support and take part in should be documented :). Also you are unable to see the conections if you follow your thoughts through to conclusion and to be honest you have both (A_Voice and Stevie) done nothing to make me wish to soften my stance with you or those like you. Infact you have achieved the opposite and I will use the democratic process to have my thoughts recorded as is my right as a BRITISH citizen. The whole handler thing was a joke BTW but as you missed it I thought Id give you opertunity to spot it but it seems I overestimated your mental abilities. And have had quite enough digs at how I type so same to you as A-Voice stevie. Do one wee man Ive had enough of idiots for today :) Ill catch you out on another story eh min? ;)

    Jan 22nd, 2014 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    No way, A_voice!
    Noticed my quiet withdrawal? I forgot to thank you, but I really wanted to avoided drawing attention.
    You keep him talking, it seems you have quite some ability.

    In a flash of anger, he'll give you his bank details next...

    Jan 22nd, 2014 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    I did notice your quiet withdrawal...in fact, it looked more like a sharp and hasty exit...
    Damn it ....me and my big mouth....
    You are on your own mate...I'm out of here and keeping a low profile for a while...with a bit of luck he will forget me...;-)

    Jan 22nd, 2014 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    That's not fair!
    I've been on for a week now and the promised relief is not showing.
    Furthermore, I got a cut in my salaries for not promoting la Cámpora enough.

    And now I have to drag this lunatic on pills along.

    I look like el Tuerto with every post of his!!

    Jan 22nd, 2014 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Shadow Walker

    It seems you have run a foul of MP's “attention seeking Troll”.

    There was much discussion about him a few months ago.

    Read about A_Voice here,

    “Lack of moral sense
    chronically antisocial behavior
    no change in behavior after punishment
    emotional immaturity
    lack of guilt
    self-centeredness”

    http://www.9types.com/wwwboard/messages/18332.html

    “ Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
    Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily
    - seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned,
    - Unable to feel remorse or guilt
    Extreme narcissism and grandiose
    May state readily that their goal is to rule the world”

    http://www.9types.com/wwwboard/messages/18332.html

    Best to ignore his goading.

    Jan 22nd, 2014 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    See ya...
    Don't want to be ya.....
    ...favouritism...you are on Salary!!!...I only get piece work...

    ...AVoice has left the building...;-)

    Jan 22nd, 2014 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    That's..... Chris!!

    Damn Troy, you are pinning them down properly.
    With this newfound knowledge and the Master of pills having joined us, we should all make an effort to help this people out...

    Jan 22nd, 2014 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    oh dear, the trolls are taking over. Scweaming and shwouting again. Nothing to say about the topic as usual.
    Which is the K government got caught lying. Fact!

    Jan 22nd, 2014 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    364
    And it seems that one odious troll has buggered off, right smartly - for now.

    Many of them crave the attention though, and will be back with fresh off-topic attacks.

    Jan 22nd, 2014 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    364
    Yeah Ilsen...I couldn't agree more...that Troy Troll and that SkyWalker, ganging up on me....fortunately I fought them off....
    You can count on me to keep the Trolls at bay...;-)

    Jan 22nd, 2014 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    I agree too, we're lucky Shadow left... I was about to beg him for one-liners...

    Jan 22nd, 2014 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    oh you guys! ;-) too much!!

    Jan 22nd, 2014 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    Thanx for makin a night out for drinks heaps of fun you two are an ace double act ;). Now about that pole.... LMAO naa only kidding Had enough of playin wi the bairns lol you were fun tho now hows about you let the grown ups have a nice conversation without interrupting :). That way all the nice people here can point out how your govt lied again and the thread can resume normal pace ;). Dont bother replying A_squeek or stephany Im not interested really Id had a couple last night n well it was fun now Im not watching (or am I you can never tell with a nutter) ;) lol. to all the normal folk on here wherever your from catch use all later :) in future Ill try not to feed the trolls I didnt know they were starving lol :) nn all :)

    Jan 22nd, 2014 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    369 SW

    Good to talk to a real Scots gentleman, Shadow.

    Jan 22nd, 2014 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @369
    Good Show young man!
    As you pointed out, originally this thread was about the RG propaganda machine being caught out and the politicians lying. Which got a little forgotton about during these most amusing diatribes amongst the tribes...
    Don't worry about the trolls, I'll throw them a biscuit now and again if I'm feeling naughty........

    Jan 23rd, 2014 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Ilsen
    ALL threads are about Argentina. Especially about the inflation rate of that country.
    That's all you got....

    Jan 23rd, 2014 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ShadowWalker

    Thank you Troy and ilsen. Ilsen you bring up a good point the root of the problem is dishonesty. I think th rg govt is built on institutionalised dishonesty this poll is just another example. There has been quite a few examples of this not related to this story beyond the fact that they are lies but they all demonstrate the the root problem quite clearly. You cant build a country on lies you will just end up with a broken society and perpetuate the cycle of violence.

    Jan 23rd, 2014 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @373 SW -“rg govt is built on institutionalised dishonesty this poll is just another example”
    I think that phrase just about sums it up perfectly, and we can see that many of the population have been infected by this also......
    @ 372 Steebie- “ALL threads are about Argentina. Especially about the inflation rate of that country.”
    ??? WTF ??! I rarely see you on the VNZLA threads, or elsewhere...
    Here boy, have a biscuit.... there's a good puppy!

    Jan 23rd, 2014 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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