MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Falklands referendum: observers mission partially financed by Canada, claims Argentina
The Falkland Islands referendum a year ago when an overwhelming majority of Islanders voted to remain as a British Overseas Territory, supported on the UN charter enshrined peoples' right to self determination has become an obsession for Argentina and the official news agency Telam has been researching the international validation of the event and Canadian support stands out strongly. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesOh dear, oh dear, oh dear!
Jan 31st, 2014 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So now it's the Canadaians fault.
Shit. there was me believing it was illegitimate anyway.
Man they have a monopoly at making themselves look silly.
Hang on a minute, this might have come out of their new Ministry!!!!!!
And..........
Jan 31st, 2014 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What has it got to do with Argentina what the Canadian Government spends its money on?
I assume they mean 233,600 Canadian Dollars as I find it hard to believe that a Canadian Govt Dept would send a cheque in US Dollars to another Cnadian organisation........
In was born in Argentina but after getting sick and tired of peronism and peronistas we emigrated to Canada... so, I couldn't be more happy when I red what Canada did to support the people in the Falkland Island in order “to organize and implement” the mission of observers “to ensure that the inhabitants of the Falklands can express themselves on the future of their territory through a free and fair referendum”. GOOD for Canada, I love Canada!!!
Jan 31st, 2014 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0RG's don't mess with the Cannucks.
Jan 31st, 2014 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They will eat you alive and spit out!
eating and argentine alive?!?! it make me think of somenthing toxic...
Jan 31st, 2014 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Canada was the only country that officially acknowledged the Falklands' referendum, something which the US nor the European Union did”
Jan 31st, 2014 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Say no more..
MA
Jan 31st, 2014 - 11:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah, yeah.
You must vote Liberal.
@6
Jan 31st, 2014 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes please, Marcos, say no more.
But I thought every country in the world supported Argentina ??
Feb 01st, 2014 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0And weren't there South American observers too ??
So they've confirmed that Canada was involved in the validation of the referendum. And this is apparently a problem because Canada has a such a high regard for fairness and the law? So what? They are clutching at straws here!
Feb 01st, 2014 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Presumably they'd have preferred a country like Cuba or Venezuala to have been involved?
“”“Say no more..”“”
Feb 01st, 2014 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0its rather funny that the people who go on about it the most are the Argentine Government....
Yet again they are doing a brilliant job of keeping the referendum in the news and telling the world how little support Argentina has amongst the people who count - the Islanders.
Well done Kretina & Gang!
Marcos
Feb 01st, 2014 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0You sorry excuse for an Argentine, you do not have the bottle to live in your own country!
....this is a bit of a strange article, because as far as I can see Canadem does the same thing all over the world....
Feb 01st, 2014 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Canadian bilateral missions have included Ukraine 2004, Lebanon 2005, and West Bank & Gaza 2005.
CANADEM also mounts complex EOMs, including the International Mission for Iraqi Elections (IME) 2005-2006, the International Mission for Monitoring Haitian Elections (IMMHE) 2005-2006, and the Canadian Mission for Accompanying Haitian Elections (CMAHE) 2006. More recently, CANADEM mounted and managed the Mission Canada delegation observing Ukraine's 2010 Presidential elections as well as Ukraine's 2012 parliamentary elections.
...it is funded by the Canadian Foreign Ministry for all these projects.....
...as I say..a strange point of view....
Cameron calls on world to respect Falklands referendum
Feb 01st, 2014 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Canada was the only country that officially acknowledged the Falklands' referendum, something which the US nor the European Union did.
Nevermind former colonies of Latinamerica, Africa and Asia, who find British manipulation of self-determination untenable...
LOL Cameron big fail
Think those facts will make a difference!
Feb 01st, 2014 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0#14 Which countries, what are you talking about, where is the evidence. Argentina and China are the only budding colonialists in the world!
Feb 01st, 2014 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Turnip!
@14 Islas Falklands
Feb 01st, 2014 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nice post.
You lot are the experts on failure.
Only a fool ignores the advicedof an expert!!!!!
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Feb 01st, 2014 - 01:01 am - Link - Report abuse 014 Islas Malvinas (#)
Feb 01st, 2014 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Feb 01st, 2014 - 12:06 am
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Hi Troll, new screen name? because no one will take you seriously under your real name?
FAIL!
Fool.
While the Falkland Islands are a cancer in America, Britain will suffer the consequences of not being able to show peace.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinas son Argentinas!!
The Malvinas can be Argentine.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 01:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thankfully the Falklands are British.
Hasn't really been kept a secret has it..?
Feb 01st, 2014 - 01:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Recipient Name: CANADEM
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada / Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Date: 2013-02-18
Value: $253,983.00
Type: Contribution
Purpose: Undertake the organization and implementation of the Referendum International Observer Mission (RIOM)/ Misión Internacional de Observación del Referendo (MIOR) to ensure that the people of the Falkland Islands have a say on the future of their territory through a free and fair referendum process.
http://w03.international.gc.ca/dg-do/index.aspx?dept=1&lang=eng&p=4&r=36&c=7301
I think argentina is being somewhat slow on the uptake..
Or is argentina being deliberately stupid..
But hey..!
Who cares..
Free publicity for us..!
@6 and @14
Feb 01st, 2014 - 01:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Canada was the only country that officially acknowledged the Falklands' referendum, something which the US nor the European Union did”
Say no more..”
When the EU gave the Falkland Islanders a grant recently they praised the conduct of the referendum-that means they acknowledged it.
@11
“Yet again they are doing a brilliant job of keeping the referendum in the news and telling the world how little support Argentina has amongst the people who count - the Islanders.”
Absolutely.
@21
“While the Falkland Islands are a cancer in America, Britain will suffer the consequences of not being able to show peace.”
Malvinas son Argentinas!!”
Britain is showing peace by basing a defensive force in the Islands. If it was totally removed, the Argentines would invade as they specialise in attacking defenceless people-they made a mistake in 1982 when they assumed the UK would do nothing and ignored the UK's warning in mid April 1982 that any Argentine forces anywhere presenting any threat to the British task force would be liable to attack. So you are right, if the British forces went North, the Falklands would suffer as the Argentines waged war.
Argentina is the cancer in South America as it has proved by enforcing trade tariffs against your country.
Malvinas is what Argentina should be called as it literally means Sour Grapes as another poster has pointed out-an accurate description of Argentina's mentality.
If Argentina were a cancer, America would be dead for two hundred years ago.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 02:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0We know living with Argentina, but not with cancer, such as the Falklands.
Pathetic idiocy of failing nations! What WILL they do next?
Feb 01st, 2014 - 02:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinas not a NATION!
Feb 01st, 2014 - 03:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0@27 you are correct brassso, for the first time ever.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 03:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Falkland Islands are; A British Overseas Territory, the Falklands enjoy internal self-governance, with the United Kingdom taking responsibility for its defence and foreign affairs.
Happy now? Fool!
You have just proved that all your other posts mean nothing. By your own words!
Fool!
British firms have no chance to survive in the tropical capitalism!
Feb 01st, 2014 - 03:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqW6Si2FXd4&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A
@27 of course not. An imaginary land like the Malvinas cannot be a nation any more than the imaginary lands of Mordor, Liliput or Narnia. However, the Falklands on the other hand are very real and enjoy a productive life as a well-run, prosperous nation powering ahead in the world.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 04:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dreamer.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 04:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0#27 They can be if the want to be
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Feb 01st, 2014 - 04:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0so now we know that the referendum was not only illegal, baseless and spurious but fraudulent too.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 04:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0in the BEST case scenario they can't even organise a referendum by themselves and then want to claim “self-determination”.
ha!
when are you lot going to admit your reality is that of a “british-determination”, not yours.
My concern is military! Dying is not problem, problem is live.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 04:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0(13) A_Voice (#)
Feb 01st, 2014 - 05:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“....this is a bit of a strange article, because as far as I can see Canadem does the same thing all over the world....
...it is funded by the Canadian Foreign Ministry for all these projects.....
...as I say..a strange point of view....”
I say...:
Let's make a couple of things clear here...:
1) CANADEM is, BY NO MEANS, a NGO as the article above claims...
It's a Governmental Organization, funded by the Canadian AND the UNITED KINGDOM governments to further Canadian AND the UNITED KINGDOM governments interests and “values” in the world...
http://www.canadem.ca/home/
2) Basically, what we have here, in the case of the Malvinas/Falklands referendum is a couple of Her Majesty's Government (leaded by the very same person and interests) monitoring themselves through their civil servants...
3) Nothing “Strange” here, Lad...
Just the old haughty Anglo way of “monitoring” themselves...
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Feb 01st, 2014 - 05:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0If Telam (notoriously unreliable) is right for once, Argentina owes Canada 233.600 US$ as she claims the Falkland Islands are part of Argentina.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 06:15 am - Link - Report abuse 036 Think
Feb 01st, 2014 - 06:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0“It's a Governmental Organization, funded by the Canadian AND the UNITED KINGDOM governments to further Canadian AND the UNITED KINGDOM governments interests and “values” in the world...”
Um, no. Think, that's not true.
They were Canadisn OBSERVERS, and NOT British, and NOT “furthering their interests.
Here is what it says:
”CANADEM maintains a roster of over 20,000 experienced Canadian and international experts. Our end-users include the United Nations, the Canadian Government, inter-governmental organizations, other governments, and non-governmental entities of all kinds.
Our operations range from individual recruitments and deployments, to complex program-management and mission-management including election observation, humanitarian assistance, and governance capacity-building.“
@Think
”2) Basically, what we have here, in the case of the Malvinas/Falklands referendum is a couple of Her Majesty's Government (leaded by the very same person and interests) monitoring themselves through their civil servants... “
No, another lie. Not British and not ”civil servants”.
3rd party observation, publicly funded, but not government personnel.
Oh Think, do you ever learn?
Feb 01st, 2014 - 06:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0You go posting without thinking AGAIN.
So CANADEM can't be an NGO because it accepts government funding? Why not?
There is no agreed definition of an NGO. But the one common point that all definitions do have is that an NGO must be not-for-profit. And thanks to your link:
“Established in 1996, CANADEM is a non-profit agency dedicated to advancing international peace and security through the rostering, rapid mobilization, and mission management of experts committed to international service.”
So please provide a link to your claim that CANADEM's employees are civil servants.
“Just the old haughty Anglo way of ”monitoring“ themselves...”
Actually yes. 100% correct. We “Anglos” do monitor ourselves and our governments in a myriad of ways and with thousands of means.
Would I be wrong in assuming the “Anglo” nations encompass the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and the US?
And what do they have in common other than the myriad of faults you believe,? We monitor ourselves and our governments and we seem to fail to have as many currencies, economic collapses and military coups as Argentina.
Perhaps Argentina should try it sometime.
# Brasilerio
Feb 01st, 2014 - 07:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0What have the people of the Falklands done to you that makes you want them to be subjugated under a foreign power? Their community is almost 200 years old.
Perhaps you should focus more attention on your country, with it's rampant crime and inequality (assuming you are Brazilian), instead of advocating the destruction of another culture.
You come across as just another latin American imperialist, determined to impose your culture on another people, while all the time moaning about US cultural hegemony. Hypocrite.
Think lying again.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 07:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't you ever get sick of being proved wrong, sr Think?
l “think” that you just get carried away, when you make up something, then like a naughty little boy, just keep adding things to it, hoping that no-one will notice.
Might have to start keeping a list of all your howlers.
On second thoughts, who cares?
l would hope that Canada DOES support us, & l'm glad that they do.
After all we are in the right & you malvinistas just liars, who will do ANYTHING to get OUR(take note of capitals, A_Voice, lol) lslands.
@ Think
Feb 01st, 2014 - 07:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Nothing “Strange” here, Lad...
Just the old haughty Anglo way of “monitoring” themselves...”
No, nothing strange here except a poster making a point (13) and then logging back in with a different name (36) to argue with it! Just the old haughty Thinko way of “monitoring” himself.
I am Brasileiro, not Brasiliero, or Brasilero.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think- I do not recall any Brits among the team - one yes- but he was a bit of a plonker (the infamous meritous professor) and opened his gob on arrival - so was correctly barred by the Attorney General from being an official observer.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0I do recall several Uruguyan,Brazilian,Chilean and Mexicans though on the team - all of whom agreed after that it was a well run and very fair and open vote.
Airline tickets,Accomodation and Transport and their time has of course to be paid for by someone - and very correctly it was NOT paid for by the interested parties- ie Falklands-UK and Argentina.
What is your problem?
#24/25 Brasileiro, Brasiliero, or Brasilero
Feb 01st, 2014 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cancer? ... unrestrained growth.
No, unrestrained growth can be 'a good thing'. GDP.
Argentina might like to try it ... or Brasil, for that matter!
No, we are told that the contagion in South America is Argentina itself; and I see good evidence of this.
Like Marxism before it, it is the Bolivarian 'Experiment' that is infecting many nations across the continent.
Some small nations lie down and accept the infection, others - like Paraguay - try to avoid and control the spread of the disease. Mercosur members are being staked to the ground while the diseased members are being thrust up them.
I wish it were not so, as the 'syphlitic' infection is now alive and spreading throughout the body-politic of my chosen country.
44
Feb 01st, 2014 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I do recall several Uruguyan,Brazilian,Chilean and Mexicans though on the team ”
Wrong, wrong and wrong....
Every observer from Canadem was a Canadian....
They only employ Canadian citizens....
Ohh look... Argentina happily accepts million(s) pounds sterling in Aid from the British government. But then moans when Canada provides funds to cover costs of providing the referendum in the Falklands with independent observers. Next they'll be saying that the independent observers, who's costs were paid for by the Falklands or had accommodation provided by Falklands, are not independent due to their pay masters being the islanders
Feb 01st, 2014 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Doesn't CFK pay prisoners for day trips to her rallies?? Doesn't the Argentine government pay for the costs of holding elections in Argentina? Yes to both.
What the report failed to mention was the the referendum complied with all international laws on such matters.
NOTE: This comment was mistakenly posted in http://en.mercopress.com/2014/02/01/falklands-honors-only-new-zealand-soldier-killed-during-the-1982-war After i logged in and was redirected to that article, without realising it.
36 Think
Feb 01st, 2014 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yup...I don't know what I was thinking....
The so called “International” observers were supplied by Canadem...that only employ Canadian Citizens....
So....a British Commonwealth Country...Canada...(Opps now shortened to Commonwealth) supplied the International observers for a British referendum by British Commonwealth people about a British Commonwealth territory...
Do I have it right now Mr Think...?
Straws...clutching.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentine government to the Argentine population...“Look shiny object,” when the people turn to look the Argentine government stuff more US dollars in its off-shore bank accounts.
It's amazing how stupid some people are...they fall for it every time.
The Falklands referendum was acknowledged as being free and fair. Argentina had it's chance to go and talk to the Falkland Islanders and tell just how much better off they could've been under Argentine rule (although I doubt they would've believed it), and they blew it.
So now, at every single opportunity, they try to discredit this referendum.
A question to the Malvinistas. Why would the Argentine government need to spend so much time, money and effort to try and discredit a referendum that they themselves said was invalid?
Is it because the referendum was valid and was acknowledged by numerous countries in the world, including the EU?
Enquiring minds want to know.
(42) lsolde
Feb 01st, 2014 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say…:
”Think lying again.”
I say…:
No, I’m not…..and you know it.... and that’s what’s niggling that pretty little mind of yours ;-)
(45) Islander1
You say…:
”I do not recall any Brits among the team - one yes- but he was a bit of a plonker”
I say…:
When and where did I ever say that there were any Brits among the team? I just pointed out that the ”TEAM” was financed by the UK Crown through the Canadian Crown.
You say…:
”I do recall several Uruguyan,Brazilian,Chilean and Mexicans though on the team ”
I say…:
SEVERAL….? : 1 Uruguayan, 1 Brasilian, 1 Chilean & 1 Mexican….. each one of them hand picked & paid for by the UK Crown through the Canadian Crown.
You say…:
”Airline tickets,Accomodation and Transport and their time has of course to be paid for by someone - and very correctly it was NOT paid for by the interested parties- ie Falklands-UK and Argentina.
I say…:
Wrooong…. Each one of them ”OBSERVERS” was hand picked & paid for by the UK Crown through the Canadian Crown.
You say…:
”What is your problem?”
I say….:
My general problem are the English in the South Atlantic and my specific problem is that, as in the case of Goose Green (1982), Kelper memory seems to be very selective and weak ”
(49) A_Voice
You say…:
”So....a British Commonwealth Country...Canada... supplied the International observers for a British referendum by British Commonwealth people about a British Commonwealth territory...
Do I have it right now Mr Think...?
I say…:
Juppppppp....... You got it right now Mr. A_Voice.
Anyway Think, you and the other thick Malvnistas always claim that the Falklands referendum is irrelavent? Why are you so concerned about it?
Feb 01st, 2014 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0There were people from Uraguay and other American nations present observing the proceedings for fairness, and Canada does this all the time., not just for the British Falkland Islands.
This of course is in contrast to all those YouTube videos which show CFK supporters going round the villas and bribing thousands of Cartoneros to get out of bed and vote for her. What's the current going rate - 100 Pesos, or has it gone up because the Peso is sinking every day?
Think and A_Voice increasingly resemble Hinge and Bracket, only not half as funny! The duo of hyperbole and lost causes!
TWIMC...:
Feb 01st, 2014 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Part 1 of 2...:
From the Canadian Governmental Organization CANADEM’s own Web Page...:
CANADEM’S Board of Directors…:
Brettel Dawson
“….has been a faculty member in the Department of Law at the Carleton University (Public) since 1986…. “
Ergo...: A career Civil Servant, or as the Canuks prefer to call them nowadays a Public Servant.
Claude Rochon
“….started with the Montreal Police in 1966 and had a sterling career in police operations as well as in management of personnel and budgets. Over his 33-years with the police…..”
Ergo...: A career Civil Servant, or as the Canuks prefer to call them nowadays a Public Servant.
Janet Zukowsky
“….is a former senior public servant and diplomat who worked in a number of federal departments….”
Ergo...: A career Civil Servant, or as the Canuks prefer to call them nowadays a Public Servant.
Ron Gould,CM
“… retired from Elections Canada in 2001 after 20 years as Assistant Chief Electoral Officer….”
Ergo...: A career Civil Servant, or as the Canuks prefer to call them nowadays a Public Servant.
Warren Allmand
“….following a 33-year career as a Federal Member of Parliament for the Montreal riding of Notre-Dame-de-Grâce…”
Ergo...: A conservative career politician transformed into what the Canuks prefer nowadays to call a Public Servant.
Yaroslav Baran
”……Previously he had more than a decade of government experience in political communications and parliamentary affairs, having served most recently in the federal government as Chief of Staff to the Government House Leader…..”
Ergo...: A career Civil Servant, or as the Canuks prefer to call them nowadays a Public Servant.
Continues later.......
Oh those secretive Canadians.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://w03.international.gc.ca/dg-do/index.aspx?dept=1&lang=eng&p=4&r=36&c=7301
Telam your investigative prowess is a credit to Argentina. Bahahahahahaha
TWIMC...:
Feb 01st, 2014 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Part 2 of 2...:
From the Canadian Governmental Organization CANADEM’s own Web Page...:
CANADEM’s Head-Quarters Personnel…:
Paul LaRose-Edwards, Executive Director
”….He has been staff with NGOs such as Amnesty International, as well as on staff with the Canadian Government, the UN and the Commonwealth…”
Ergo…: A career Civil Servant, or as the Canuks prefer to call them nowadays a Public Servant.
Christine Vincent; Deputy Executive Director
”…. she was an evaluation consultant who counted Justice Canada, Citizenship and Immigration and other government departments among her clients. As a research associate at the (Public) Carleton University…..”
Ergo…: A career Civil Servant, or as the Canuks prefer to call them nowadays a Public Servant.
Alisha Todd, Democracy Program Director
…..has worked with CANADEM since 2005 honing her international democracy assistance expertise….
Ergo…: A career Civil Servant, or as the Canuks prefer to call them nowadays a Public Servant.
Kevin McMahon, Roster Program Director
…has been with CANADEM since 2004 and has been Roster Director since 2007….
Ergo…: A career Civil Servant, or as the Canuks prefer to call them nowadays a Public Servant.
Jillian Smith, Deployment Director
….Jill has worked on the financial and logistical aspects of many international projects managed by CANADEM since joining the team in 2006…..
Ergo…: A career Civil Servant, or as the Canuks prefer to call them nowadays a Public Servant.
Hugo Ortega, IT Director
”….currently involved in a project through the Canadian Governance Support Office (CGSO) in Afghanistan…”
Ergo…: A career Civil Servant, or as the Canuks prefer to call them nowadays a Public Servant.
In short, a whole bunch of CANADIAN CROWN EMPLOYED professionals whose lives are dedicated to the service of the CANADIAN CROWN, hence “Civil Servants” or as the Canuks prefer to call them nowadays “Public Servants”.
http://www.canadem.ca/home/en/home/canadem-team.html
@ 51 Lunatic
Feb 01st, 2014 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0We ALL know what a liar you are, so, in order to support your statement of:
“I say…:
SEVERAL….? : 1 Uruguayan, 1 Brasilian, 1 Chilean & 1 Mexican….. each one of them hand picked & paid for by the UK Crown through the Canadian Crown.”
Please provide a link to a recognised, truthful organisation that proves your point. Links to The Dark Country will be ignored.
So, Lunatic, this is a chance to redeem a little of your very poor reputation on MP. I bet you don’t do it because there is NO link.
Think used a lot of past tenses with his list of CANADEM's Board of Directors.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Could it be that these were their previous jobs and positions?
Could it indeed be that they are now not employed by the Government of Canada?
Mmmm transparency is not an easily understood concept in Argentina.
It must be a slow news day...........
Feb 01st, 2014 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Or some one in B.A ( Daniel Filmus ) is trying to justify his existence......
either way.... There's nothing to see here, nothing to see at all.
@14 This may have escaped you but the people who VOTED were the Falkland Islanders. That hag from your “country” constantly runs around saying irrelevant places support her. Strange how it's never the relevant country that makes the statement. And, while you're at it, Britain has a long history of standing up against dictators and winning. Argieland has a long history of cowardice and hiding.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0@25 Most of “America” has been “dead” for at least 200 years. You're a case in point. Your brain's been dead since one of your “uncles” trod on your egg leaving because the time he paid for was up!
@27 You could start by looking up the definition of a NATION. Of course Malvinas isn't a nation. How could somewhere in the middle of an argie village be a nation? The Falkland Islands, on the other hand, are a NATION. Because WE say so. And you'll never be big enough to seriously challenge that! Whine all you like. NO change.
@31 This from someone without enough imagination and intelligence to think up an identity other than the name of the “country” it's supposed to be from.
@34 Aaaah yes. Buying votes, intimidation, vote-rigging, lying, blackmail, bribery. Not exactly in the best position to point a finger, are you?
@35 That's good. You'll have no problem with what we have in mind for you. Won't be attending the World Cup or Olympics in your sewage works. Starve. Problem sorted!
@36 How do you? Without either a brain or a mind? Could you ever understand democracy? How are you with riding your mare round your estate and whipping the peons these days?
@37 Yes? It's ANGLOSPHERE. Numpty. You forgot the United Kingdom, Ireland and New Zealand. The United States is officially part as well. 72.4% WHITE. 83.7% productive, 16.3% scrounging, thieving latinos and hispanics.
@44 No, you're a brain-dead prat.
I've reread the article and comments and I finally think I've worked out Think's issue.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Has the governments of Canada, the UK and the Falklands together with CANADEM actually lied?
We all know what's lying government looks like every month when INDEC releases its inflation figure. But did Canada, the UK, FIG or CANADEM lie?
Such an easily proven answer if they did. As Toblerine said today “deflection in 3... 2.... 1....”
Turnip at (57), Mr. Anglolatino says...:
Feb 01st, 2014 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Think used a lot of past tenses with his list of CANADEM's Board of Directors.
Could it be that these were their previous jobs and positions?
Could it indeed be that they are now not employed by the Government of Canada?”
I say...
Could it indeed be that the clue of the CURRENT employment of all those Civil Servants is in the title of my post No. (53)?...:
“From the Canadian Governmental Organization CANADEM’s own Web page”...
“Canadian Governmental Organization CANADEM’s”....
“ Governmental Organization”
“Governmental”
All funded & paid, as clearly stated in their webpage, by the British and the Canadian Crown...:
1) http://www.canadem.ca/home/
2) http://www.canadem.ca/home/
3) http://www.canadem.ca/home/
Who really cares, except you, dear Think.?
Feb 01st, 2014 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Go & have a spot of lunch & wee sleep.
You deserve it after all that(futile)research.
Oh, just incase you forgot, we're still here baby & you are not.
Think -v- A_Voice
Feb 01st, 2014 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#36/49
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14njUwJUg1I
'Dancing with Myself ', Generation X (though I prefer Nouvelle Vague.)
'Talking with Myself ' Electribe 101 (Oh, Billie!)
“Better get out your old army uniform”
“Yup, with a 108 angry countries, there's bound to be trouble!”
“He's a credit to his race”
“What race is that?”
“... ”
What does it matter all done and dusted, THE FALKLANDERS have said by some majority that they wish to remain a BOT by way of a referendum which was pretty convincing, as it did with Gibrtaltar.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 063
Feb 01st, 2014 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0tut tut...GeoffWard2 ...
I'm surprised at your lack of judgement....
Can't see the wood for the trees....
How interesting is this article..
All observers are Canadian citizens
Zalusky, who is taking a leave of absence from his job as executive director of the UCC to take part in the mission, dismissed any concerns. “Every single one” of the observers is a Canadian citizen, he said; there are no “new arrivals” from Ukraine.
They have all passed both Canadem and United Nations training courses and must adhere to “a very strict code of conduct on not being biased,” he added.
If the observers were from Canadem....they were all Canadian Citizens....
I wonder if there was any political influence.....
maybe....
“The final list of observers has not yet been released, nor has the head of mission been named. Prime Minister Stephen Harper is to speak today at a public send-off for short-term observers.”
Wonder if the short term observers for the Falklands got the same “pep talk”
The Argentinians on this board are feeble minded. They think conspiracy lurks around every corner except in Casa Rosada.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think has never been right on one post in however many years I've been reading them.
He just a stupid troll with a mixed up brain.
Pay no attention.
65 A-Voice
Feb 01st, 2014 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you forget to put that link in your post for the above mentioned article...?
Yes I did Voice..thanks for reminding me....here it is....
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tories-under-fire-for-staffing-of-ukraine-election-observers-1.1218311
63....now that is talking to myself....
67 A_Voice
Feb 01st, 2014 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“now that is talking to myself....”
I say...:
Best way to insure you are talking to a reasonable person :-)
68 Think
Feb 01st, 2014 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0..and that a reasonable person is talking to you...;-))
(67) A_Voice
Feb 01st, 2014 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By the way, thanks for the link.....
“CANADEM” showing, again, their true Conservative Commonwealth Colonial Colours, I see......
you two are gross
Feb 01st, 2014 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think Tinkaroo has a bit of insomnia or perhaps not in my side of the Atlantic.
I wonder which?
71
Feb 01st, 2014 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah I'm big.....and?
71
Feb 01st, 2014 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah, and I'm bigger thaan him.....and?
Gross in American slang and since you've never been here means:
Feb 01st, 2014 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0disgusting, creepy
After much time, i come back! TODAY is Saturday. The day of fight against Capital and Kapitalists.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2C_-p8s1V4&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A
And
Good Morning, Saxons!
75. Rial seems to be on a slow depreciation like a balloon losing air.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You should look to your East and see what a “slow” steady depreciation has done to your neighbors.
Its now neither slow or steady
Learn a lesson.
You can't depreciate your way to wealth.
(72) A_Voice
Feb 01st, 2014 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'll leave that Yankee Colonial Cokehead to you....
Let's get Ban Ki-Moon's view on the referendum:
Feb 01st, 2014 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'The impression is that people who are living under certain conditions should have access to certain level of capacities so that they can decide on their own future. And that this is the main criteria of the main UN bodies. Having independence OR having some kind of government in the territories. I don't think it's an abuse or violation of relevant UN resolutions, the UN has been working strongly from its very beginning to help non autonomous territories achieve independence.' 12.11.12
http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/11/12/un-confirms-that-britain-is-not-inbreach-of-resolutions-over-the-falklands/
And
In 2010,
'The World's 16 remaining territories that still do not govern themselves MUST have complete freedom in deciding their future status,'
http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/11/12/un-confirms-that-britain-is-not-inbreach-of-resolutions-over-the-falklands/
As long as the referendum was free and fair, (and it was), who and who did not contribute towards holding it, is completely irrelevant. Just more sour grapes from the 'petulant child.'
74
Feb 01st, 2014 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well I never would have known that..
....thank you for enlightening me with your extensive knowledge of the English Language..
English lessons from a Yank....;-))
Whatever next....dancing lessons from a one legged man...?
Wealth? China is, Brasil and USA not!
Feb 01st, 2014 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In post 76 s/h/b West.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Voice, Yes we have different words in the New World. If you had ever been here you'd know that.
Tinkaroo was it insomnia or are you wintering in frigid northern europe?
Gads what a moron.
@A_Voice Sounds like you didn't get your leg over with fish face Nicola last night-you miserable piece of shit.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 081
Feb 01st, 2014 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0..its..lunch time in the cafe and the customers shout
He's waiting on the tables and running all about
he slips into the kitchen for a line of Coke
Coz that's what he all about...
Chorus
Fred ...likes a lot of Cokey
Fred ...likes a lot of Cokey
Fred likes a lot of Cokey
Coz that's what he's all about...
82
is there such a thing as a happy piece of shit...?
Rather then Telam dumping on CANADEM better to demand why UN and OAS didn't also fulsomely support Falklands referendum and its results. Duh...
Feb 01st, 2014 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wasn't a CANADEM observer in Falklands but having worked through CANADEM on electoral observer missions in Latin America, I'd confirm that their bona-fides as a competent, neutral party are totally legit. EOS missions are always pricey affairs and even with volunteer short-term observers swelling the ranks, the missions burn through money like mad.
So its great that CANADEM worked with Falkland Islands for the mission and glad that Canada recognized validity and results of Falklands referendum.
The referendum wasn't observed by Britain or the islanders but was observed by an independent sovereign nation in the Americas. For Think to imply that a Canadian NGO is a proxy for the UK is a bit rich when the people who should have observed the referendum and who should be helping the islanders are the UN Decolonisation committee but they are too busy supporting Argentine colonialism to actually visit the islands, listen to the islanders views or observe them expressing their self-determination.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 076.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, WE Can!
86. Venezuela and Zimbabwe thought the same.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We're too stupid to stay united. And Venezuela and Zimbabwe are problem of us, not China.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Marxists running your country are stupid and corrupt. They have no idea how to manage a FAILING Economy. Everything they'll do it make it worse and bring on a collapse quicker.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hear water rationing is coming to San Paulo. That'll make the peasants happy.
I didn't know Brazil still had slaves, how unfortunate:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2014/01/29/268200235/brazils-slaves-are-being-freed-but-slaveholders-go-unpunished
The problems of the United States are higher. Forget our.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 090. Oh your translation has failed again.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW Who types your posts when they are readable?
Translation. We are Chinese and we're winning.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 084, John and 85 Redrow
Feb 01st, 2014 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It occurs to me that Think was well-prepared for backing up these accusations.
I would go so far as to say, he has been given information prior to the Telam and Argentine accusations being made public - part of an orchestrated Multi-faceted campaign to discredit the Referendum by casting doubt on the Observers.
There were however, observers from other nations too, and it is still to be proven that the Canadian contingent was anything but given a grant to cover their mission expenses.
Their mandate was simply to observe and they were not representatives of the Canadian government.
Thinks accusations hold as much water as Argentina's claims that EU “lawmakers and prominent citizens from many countries” support Argentina's claims over the Falklands, which implied that governments took sides against Britain.
As was pointed out, it should have been the UN Decolonisation Committee who took an active part in observing.
They didn't dare show up. For them to have been present and then deny the results, would have exposed them.
Discrediting from afar, without observers of their own, seems to be the only avenue open to them.
I don't hear Snr. Think or the Mercosur governments questioning the legitimacy of Venezuela's election results.
Is there a point to this article, because I've been looking and looking and I can't find one.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Telam spends a lot of time researching the matter and comes up with the bleeding obvious' seems to about cover it.
Yes, the Canadian Government supported the fact and the outcome of the referendum.
Yes, it cost more to monitor per head than it would have in a bigger more populous place.
Well Argentina, you were invited to send observers and you decided not to. Now you've got your big fat lip sticking out because someone else did. Tough.
94 Monty
Feb 01st, 2014 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Well Argentina, you were invited to send observers and you decided not to. Now you've got your big fat lip sticking out because someone else did. Tough.”
Good point,Monty.
And who would have paid for an Argentine contingent of observers ???
Why, the Argentine government, of course.
(94) Monty96
Feb 01st, 2014 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You ask...:
“Is there a point to this article, because I've been looking and looking and I can't find one.”
I say....:
Let me refer you to Mr. A_Voice's comment No. (49)...:
” So....a British Commonwealth Country...Canada...(Opps now shortened to Commonwealth) supplied the International observers for a British referendum by British Commonwealth people about a British Commonwealth territory...”
Can you see the point of this article now......, Miss Monty96 ?
96.Except weren't there some Americans there too?
Feb 01st, 2014 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does that still work in your conspiracy tree logic?
retard
Well, thats $234,000 wasted.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This so-called “referendum”.....which was not recognized by USA or EU...or 99% of the world....
is tantamount to a drinks company's paid Canadian conservative lobbyist walking into a bar, setting up a “referendum” for free beer and leading the cheers of democracy from the drunks and barflies.
The barman...or in this case the whole world.... just said Shut The F*** Up.
What a sham.
Only served to highlight the legal weakness of the campers' claims.
Thanks Canadian conservative lobbyists.
....For the laughable 'shamerendum' as it shall here-forth be known as.
@96 Think
Feb 01st, 2014 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So let's see if i understand your position - we can now discount the supportive views of other South American nations for Argentina as they are merely former parts of the same empire? Is it just countries that sympathise with the islanders that you disparage?
Can't see what this is about, there was a massively clear result. The islanders want to remain a BOT for the present and made it absolutely clear they want nothing to do with the failed country off their shores. There is no hint of corruption. Canada has a long history of honesty and probity. You couldn't appoint better independent observers. The whole point of the referendum was to satisfy everyone of the Falkland Islanders wishes and it has done that. The only people throwing stones are the budding Argentinian colonalists.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Contrast that with the bent election system in Argentina where a pseudo marxist is 'elected' with large numbers of voters openly bribed to vote for her with 100 peso notes. After election those same voters are continuously rewarded with all sorts of further bribes from the public purse.
Argentinian democracy is a standing joke all around the world. The consequences of the corruption and bribery are clear to everyone.
Those that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones I 'Think'
97
Feb 01st, 2014 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes ...but you are missing the point....
....all hand picked by Canada
“Henao was tapped for the position of Deputy Mission Director by Canada in December 2012. A few weeks later, he was in Port Stanley, the capital of the Islands, to meet local referendum officials, Members of the Legislative Assembly and other key decision-makers.
Ottawa-based non-profit CANADEM managed the referendum. CANADEM advances international peace and security through the rostering, rapid mobilization, and mission management of experts committed to international service.”
http://www.gwalumni.org/2013/03/falkland-islands-observation-team-includes-esia-alum/#.Uu0tVeCQMUU
Think seems to be getting his knickers in a lather about a referendum on some mythical islands called the Malvinas whose population does not exist.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So what's your problem Think?
Suggest you return to pullulating petunias on your parsnip patch in Chubut.
Might be more productive than chasing what you think are myths.
(102) redp0ll
Feb 01st, 2014 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“...return to pullulating petunias on your parsnip patch in Chubut”
I say...:
Is this a “Snide attack on my family”?
@61 Cocksucker @61 Don't you feel ashamed of being a cocksucker when you could be a proper deviant, depraved arse-licker? Or do you do both?
Feb 01st, 2014 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@67, 69 A what? You mean A_Void. A totally vacuous empty space.
@70 Here is a piece of old shit!
@72 Another big piece of shit.
@73 No, that's a fart blockage. Any luck for the world and it'll kill you.
@75 Do you understand the meaning of the word “dirtbag”? It's where you shovel “nightsoil”. Do you understand “nightsoil”? “Nightsoil” is what latams leave in other peoples' homes, bathtubs, beds and on their furniture because they are animals. YOU are a dirtbag.
@86 Here's a tip, dogbreath. You're dead meat. Really looking forward to the Word Cup and Olympics when NO-ONE turns up. TV is so wonderful. Especially free internet TV.
@98 Piss OFF. You have NO credibility. Why don't you tell us where you are? I have enough money to contract a hitman.
@101 Can you feel that argie cock up your arse? Feel good? Wait until we cut it off and you're permanently plugged. You may explode. Oh, happy day!
INDIA
Feb 01st, 2014 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9DsvAFDxcE
@101
Feb 01st, 2014 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But will it change the result of the referendum? Decidedly NOT, They will remain a BOT until the Falklanders say different.
So what if Canada supports the Falklands,
Feb 01st, 2014 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does not celac support Argentina?
Or are we missing something here.
CFK is getting more desperate by the day..
@103 .Of course not Think. If you have a daughter named Petunia,my apologies for my inadvertent error. Didn't you say that some of your kin were at Guantanamo Cuba?
Feb 01st, 2014 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Internees or guards I wonder, but that's your problem
@ 107 Briton
Feb 01st, 2014 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Or are we missing something here.”
I think we may be. It doesn’t really matter which nationality helped in observing the referendum as long as they were not Argies, Brazil nuts, Venezuelans with birds on their hats or even Ecuadorian bananas!
@ 108 Redpoll
So Lunatic has some “kin” at Guantanamo? PMSL at that one!
We can call him Mohammed now! I can’t see him managing 70 virgins in this life or any mythical next life though.
CHUCKLE, CHUCKLE, LAUGHS OUT LOUD.
101 A_Voicepuppet
Feb 01st, 2014 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Yes ...but you are missing the point....
....all hand picked by Canada”
No, that's NOT the case.
According to your own link,
”Juan Manuel Henao, ESIA BA ’01, served as Deputy Mission Director for the Referendum International Observation Mission (RIOM) in the Falkland Islands. He helped prepare the Islands for an observation team that included representatives from Canada, the U.S., Mexico, Brazil, Uruguay, Chile and New Zealand.“
A_voiceof Think, From your own link,
Mr. Henao seems to be well qualified and an experienced impartial Internationsl affairs and international law.
He has a history of working for NGO's
”Since that first job, Henao has gotten a law degree and joined an international non-govermental organization (NGO), IRI, where he managed democracy and governance programs throughout Latin America.
Henao lived in Mexico and Venezuela for IRI, and he traveled to Central and South America often.”
A_ThinkVoiceOver,
Sorry, like Paul Cedron, you should read your own links
- this one does not support your insinuations.
The Observers for the International Community found no irregularities with the Referendum and confirmed the results.
and what about the hundreds and hundreds of dollars Chavez sent to Argentina for election time, the 1st. for Mrs. Cristina?
Feb 01st, 2014 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Need we say more,
Feb 01st, 2014 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Need we say less ,
Poor Argentina is in a mess,
CFK is likely to stay
At least till the end of may,
But the gutter beckons
And so she will slide,
Followed by the rats,
So they all reckon..
All along for the ride…lol
110
Feb 01st, 2014 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you blind as well as stupid...?
...from the link....
“Henao was tapped for the position of Deputy Mission Director by Canada in December 2012.”
what part of tapped for the position by Canada did you miss...?
Dictionary.... tapped....
4. To select, as for membership in an organization; designate. See Synonyms at appoint.
If CFK was right,
Feb 01st, 2014 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0then she should take it to the ICJ or shutty uppy,
and celac should also demand Argentina back its claim to sovereignty ,
and take it to the ICJ,
or that makes celac and its members hypocrites,
celac members should read up on democracy..
113. YOu are making a mountain out of a mole hill and a fool of yourself.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't you back and tell us all how you can get from VA while driving south and come out in Northern PA 3 hrs later.
Or how a 787 can fly from Russia to Venezuela over the Pacific without stopping.
Idiot.
Using this absurd argie logic, then the Scottish independence election should be called off now as they are using the electoral commission to oversee the ballot.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0115
Feb 01st, 2014 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stupid waiter...why not go to Google maps...type in say...Williamsport..destination...Dulles Airport....
Now tell me A...the shortest route and time...
B the quickest route and time...
Note...come out of Airport...onto VA267 East for 11 miles...then North up the US15.....Dickhead.....as I've always said from the beginning...do you want me to pull out the original post for directions and make a bigger fool out of you...?
112
Ha ha needs a bit of work on the Iambic pentameter...and rhyming sequence changes rather oddly but well done...;-)
and it takes the same time from Pearson and JFK too
Feb 01st, 2014 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0duh
retard
It takes less time from JFK...why not try it....go type it in....
Feb 01st, 2014 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Starting to feel a bit stupid boy...stay off the coke and attend to the tables...
No idiot, I know exactly how much time it takes BECAUSE I HAVE ACTUALLY DRIVEN IT!
Feb 01st, 2014 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's how I know you are lying
dumb cluck
You haven't got a car...Waiter...so how would you know...
Feb 01st, 2014 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tell you what dumbo...why not tell the forum the time for each route...;-)
Williamsport to...
Dulles
JFK
Newark
Philly
Niagara falls
They are all roughly 3 hours.....;-)))
People say to me me so where is your place in the States.....I reply...3 hours....
....3 hours from everywhere....
So now its Niagara Falls NY not Pearson as you once claimed?
Feb 01st, 2014 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you figure out that wasn't possible so you moved it an hour and a half closer.
and by roughly do you mean 4 hrs in great traffic with no weather going avg 80 mph THROUGH RURAL PA?
You”re stupid and boring.
Let's talk about any one of today's headlines from my Google News Feed:
Argentina And Venezuela Are Both In Economic Trouble. Which Will Survive?
Argentina's coming collapse
Peso panic and rocketing prices shake the throne of Argentina's Queen Cristina
and go...
I don't count Canada as the US...I only ever pass through briefly....
Feb 01st, 2014 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Give it up dumbo..anyone can look at the distances...the longest being 221 miles...3hours 36 minutes at speed limit....
You are just grasping at straws....probably for your coke line...;-)))
Oh this thread is so funny. Think hasn't posted this much for months.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So the problem seems to be that the Canadian government and Canadian government employees helped organise and supervise the referendum.
That fact doesn't mean the referendum wasn't well-run, free and fair.
Seems to be some sort of guilt by association meme.
But who else could have done it? Perhaps they should have employed Veenezuela or Argentina. Argentina wouldn't even provide their side of the argument.
Canada is amongst the lowest ranked for corruption in the Americas and amongst the highest ranked for democracy in the Americas. It is unfortunate for Argentina, that her ranking so much lower than Canada on so many indicators doesn't spur Think into as much indignation as a story like this.
It goes to show that Argentina's obsession with the Falkland Islands ranks as one of its highest priorities whereas Canada's are a little more practical and workable: strong civil society, low corruption and workable democracy.
Think and Still boring A_Voice haven't exposed a single secret or unearthed a single new fact. All they have done is rehashed publicly known information in a attempt to put an Argentine spin on it; that all governments lie and are as corrupt as Argentina's
The fact that this referendum wasn't recognised by many government is also a strong theme that emanates from BsAs. It's true but that totally ignores the reason for the vote. It wasn't so that the Islands could gain a status as they are recognised as a BOT already by those that matter. It is used to counter Argentine lies. The world has seen the Islanders vote and Argentina's ability to get others to ignore the rights of the Islanders took a major blow.
Tnk - there were TWO Uruguayan elected deputies on the team. Since then they have delivered a paper to their own parliament on FI and Ur relations and how to advance them.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You seem to have difficulty- not surprising being as you live in Argentina! - in understanding that an organisation like CanaDem can be perhaps largely funded by the Canadian Govt - but actually be independent of any Canadian Govt persuasion on political leanings and favouritism. It happens in most democracies I imagine- certainly in Canada,UK and even Falklands.
I appreciate that when you do not live in a real democracy it is a bit difficult for you though!
As for Countries noting the result- we never expected them all to jump in publicly, but we are very happy with the names of all those who have quietly acknowledged the result and the principles involved, to us.
124
Feb 01st, 2014 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey Ballerino.....it's a bit like Iran choosing the Election Observers for Syria...
Or Russia for Iran....
Psssssst (126) Mr. A_Voice
Feb 01st, 2014 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That Yank at (122) seems to be obsessed with Argentina...
Do you ever wonder why...? Ask him about his Argie wife... Or his golden Rolex...
(Don't tell him I told you;-)
@117 iambic pentameters? Here's a classic that fits you pretty well with all the spondees and dactyl accents in the right sequence.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Down in a deep dark dell,
Sat an old cow chewing a bean stalk
While in a vale close by
Nestled a litter of PIGS”
I think that the impartiality of Telam should be acknowledged by every wrong thinking citizen.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0123. A master of google maps but anyone who has ever driven it knows you are lying.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the original thread you said Toronto Airport, until either me or Cap pointed out immigration...ooops then it changed, oh I forgot...oh I don't count Canada.
Fool
You are embarrassing yourself
Like an old drunk at a bar that fish keeps getting bigger and bigger
@117 correction Old Cow should be capitalised to OLD COW.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A faithful reflection on Argentinas politics perhaps?
(108) redp0ll
Feb 01st, 2014 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm still waiting for you to respond to my alleged “Snide attack on your family”.
You know............. About that Sunderland Parson and stuff....
It is disgusting that the Argentine Government uses the Falklands to distract, rather than face up to their true crisis. Buit it is sickening that other South American countries play ball with them, rather than doing the right thing.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What does it matter if the Canadians paid for the observers ?
Feb 01st, 2014 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All that matters is the result. Are you now trying to infer that the result was fixed or that many of the votes were tampered with ?#37
#37
Before you post, check your figures. A bit more than 20%!!!!
Non-Hispanic Whites
White, not Hispanic or Latino
Total population
196,817,552 (2010 U.S. Census)
63.7% of the United States population
Regions with significant populations
Throughout the United States
Languages
Predominantly American English with local minorities who speak American French (Louisiana, Vermont, Maine, New Hampshire) and Pennsylvania German language (Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana)
Religion
Mostly Christianity; minorities practice Judaism, Islam, and other faiths or are non-religious
#105
What has ANOTHER video of troops got to do with the subject. Your adolescent fixation is becoming a little boring.
This part about only having Canadian members observing, Are you guys thick or just can't do any research?
Feb 01st, 2014 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2013/02/13/argentina-labels-uruguayan-lawmaker-as-traitor-for-observing-falklands-referendum
The head of the observation mission was from the US. The vice-head is from Mexico.
It's honestly not even a good fabrication. It just falls flat really easily especially when we have your own government on record to prove you wrong.
Even if the votes were rigged.... Think, are you truly so brainwashed that you believe the vote would have been any different? That it would have gone in Argentina's favor? Seriously.
Turnip at (135)
Feb 01st, 2014 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) Mr. A_Voice was commenting about the dubious CANADEM current engagment in the Ukraine electoral process.... Read his posts and links before embarrassing yourself further....
2) Where in earth did I ever suggest that the votes of the Malvinas/Falklands 2013 “referendum” vere rigged or the result would have been different?
I'm merely pointing out that the Anglos, in their immense haughtiness, are making a mockery of the whole International Electoral Monitoring System, aswell as the principle of Self-Determination of Peoples trying to apply it to a little bunch of English squatters squatting on some Antipodean Islands usurped and invaded by the British navy in 1833....
136 Think
Feb 01st, 2014 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I never suggested it either...everyone knew the vote was a forgone conclusion..
That was its whole purpose...
...but it appears they are all blind to the irony of the whole Canadem set up and the influence by the Canadian Govt...as I linked to an example of controversy...
...there are none so blind as those who will not see
So....a British Commonwealth Country...Canada...(Opps now shortened to Commonwealth) supplied the International observers for a British referendum by British Commonwealth people about a British Commonwealth territory...
what part of that comment suggests rigging...
Think , you are way much older than I am, why does any of this matter ??
Feb 01st, 2014 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(138) CabezaDura2
Feb 01st, 2014 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Principles matter, pebete......
On the one hand we have Canada, (a large influential country situated in the Americas) who actively supports the right of the Falkland Islanders to self-determination and is prepared to put its money where its mouth is and help fund that process.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On the other we have the likes of Venezuela and Cuba who recently supported a rather confusing declaration that seems to say that, if the Argentine has a legitimate territorial claim to the Falklands, it will support that claim. (Whatever that means).
I know which friend I would rather have!
By the way, contrary to the spin coming out of BA, Canada is not the only country in the world that supports the Falkland Islanders; they have extensive support from countries that respect the rights of isolated communities exist and be free. As the vote in the UN proved.
@139 what principles Think? Haven't seen much of yours about a free vote on a status quo.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0vejete.... Certainly they do, and is this the only and most important principle that is violated??
Feb 01st, 2014 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 42 Isolde writes “Think lying again.”
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0A waste of time and space to draw the attention to when Thinkidiot is lying.
Much more sense in pointing out if Thinkidiot one day accidentally should tell the truth - don't hold your breath, though!
I do find it hilarious when Thinkidiot asks himself “Do I have it right now Mr Think...?” (#49 under one of his idiot sockpuppet names 'A_Noise') and then answers himself as Thinkidiot in #51.
(142) CabezaDura2
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nope..... But it happens to be the one being discussed in this thread, botija.
I’m asking you this because you are concerning yourself with useless whataboutry of these islands and useless whataboutry of the users here, stuff like Saints or Chileans owning what business on the islands, how do you get to know this ??.... Bizarre. One thing is flirting around with the “very basic housewife” © CabezaDura 2013, that’s OK ...But your obsession comes to the level of following gossyp of a small town. …And all this while the bloody country is falling apart!!!! Or you are just waiting for some good news to come up in that front to show your face??
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0145
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0There is nothing you or Mr Think personally can do about the state of Argentina....
but you can stand up for principles and point out obvious flaws in Anglo thinking and fabrications....
like the point I have just made on the other thread...
..there are no lies or fabrications in this post....
”The weak point is not having any claim to East Falkland whatsoever....
Especially when BA settled and claimed it before Britain had any ideas of trying to claim it....
It doesn't matter how long the settlement was there....the question is how long would it have been there if....a) the Americans hadn't destroyed the original Vernet settlement and b) The British hadn't evicted the Argentine Militia...
Spain had lost all the colonies and was not in a position to reclaim them...so all of Spain's possessions were up for grabs to whoever could take them or settle them...BA did first....it has a claim to East Falkland...
Britain has a claim to West Falkland......
(145) CabezaDura2
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 01) I'm not flirting around with any “very basic housewife” (© CabezaDura 2013)................... She's flirting with me ;-)
2) I am a “Small Town Kind of Person”... Ergo I know the all important role of gossip.
3) “The bloody Country is falling apart!!!!” What?... Where?... Which?... Ours?...
What are you doing here then laddie?.... Out with you to protect your friends silobags...
By the way..... You know that after ~9 months in the bags the soy enters the high mycotoxin risk zone......, don't you pibe?
, how do you get to know this ??.... Bizarre. that’s OK ...But your obsession comes to the level of following gossyp of a small town. …And all this while the bloody country is falling apart!!!! Or you are just waiting for some good news to come up in that front to show your face??
Think does tacitly still support the government; I just want to know why, give some propper arguements as to were we are going and what an earth was he thinking 2 years ago… why gossip of a small town of 3000 people at more than 400km away is paramount is beyond me..
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 12:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Flirting ...Mr Think.....I'd best start calling you Tristan then....;-)
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-qoaioG2UA
(149) A_Voice
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 01:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....
T & I....... in a Furtwängler version!
Pleas don't interrupt me the next 10 minutes ;-)
@Think
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 01:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Spain had lost all the colonies and was not in a position to reclaim them...so all of Spain's possessions were up for grabs to whoever could take them or settle them...BA did first....it has a claim to East Falkland...”
Like Spain, BA also lost its colony (if you can call it that), failed to reclaim the islands and then signed a peace treaty with Britain. So why do the same circumstances that you believe invalidates Spain's claim, also validate Argentina's claim? If you feel your case is strong then the ICJ awaits. But it is 2014 now and we live in an era of self-determination so really the views of the islanders are paramount - which takes us back to the referendum. Do you believe it was free and fair?
No, still don't get it.
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 01:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0The observer who had supper with us was the ex- Deputy Prime Minister of New Zealand. And he hadn't been 'selected' at all. He answered a general call because he fancied the trip.
This is all nonsense, and stupid circular reasoning; Canada must be biased because they don't side with Argentina because they supported the referendum because they're biased.
It doesn't lead anywhere. There had to be observers, and if Argentina wouldn't send any, then they had to be organised from somewhere else. And that somewhere else had to be somewhere not in Argentina's pocket, which must necessarily then be somewhere with a good relationship with Britain.
Fact is, we couldn't give two hoots what you think. If you want to suggest that these men and women of impeccable standing are all in fact bent, then go ahead. It just makes you look even more deranged, if that were possible.
(152) Monty96
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 01:57 am - Link - Report abuse 01) The “Observer” who had supper with you was indeed the ex- Deputy Prime Minister of New Zealand...
And he was very much 'selected' ...
And he fancied the trip allright...
As a business opportunity to explore the establishment of some of his dairy business in them Islands with the help of some of his Kelper relatives...
2) Who said that “It had to be Observers”...?
The UK Foreign & Colonial Office...?
Is it therefore that the British Crown organized and paid through the Canadian Crown an “Observer” mockery?
3) Fact is, we know perfectly that you couldn't give two hoots about what we think...
And it is reciprocal...
1) Well if he was intending to establish a dairy business I wish he'd hurry up and do it. It doesn't seem all that likely though does it.
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 02:05 am - Link - Report abuse 02) No. We said there had to be observers. The British Crown did not organise and pay for them. If you think otherwise then name your sources.
“Fact is, we know perfectly that you couldn't give two hoots about what we think...
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 02:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0And it is reciprocal...”
Well.... but YOU certainly care a lot about that Think, why the hell are you so up to date what happens in the islands up to the extend of what a NZer does over there and by chance you dont care what they think... ???
(154) Monty69
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 02:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“ The British Crown did not organise and pay for them. If you think otherwise then name your sources.”
I say...:
Geeeee. Woman.... Can't you read?
I have named and linked to the “Source” 2-3 times already.....
Here, once again, just for you...:
http://www.canadem.ca/home/
Who organized the “Observers” visit?...: C A N A D E M
Who funds C A N A D E M ?...: The British and the Canadian Crown
http://www.canadem.ca/home/
ThinksVoiceOver
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 02:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are you insinuating that Canada, at behest of the Crown, influenced the Referendum or misrepresented the results?
What about the non-British, Canadian, and Kiwi observers?
Were they ALL part of a Big Lie ?
Remember, the US guy was in charge.
Falklands Referendum: protest mission fully funded by every country in the world, claims Argentina
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 07:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0A_Voice - you are very good at rebutting arguments that you “think” you have a good counter argument for, but you always dodge the glaring errors. Can you comment on Redrow's post @151 answering yours @146
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 07:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0(131) redp0ll
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0My ear wouldn’t accept those lines of you at (128)...:
“Down in a deep dark dell,
Sat an old cow chewing a bean stalk”
Memory wouldn’t help. so I had to consult the Great Google….:
“Down in a deep dark dell,
Sat an old cow munching a bean stalk” .......... it is!
There you are!........ That sounds much better…….... don’t you ”Think”?
Turnip at (159)
Well............... If turnip at (146) really wanted an answer from Mr. A_Voice, he should start by addressing his question to the right person...
@147 Think,
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0ln your dreams, Think.
Don't kid yourself, it will be too hard on your heart!
@156 Think,
Pleased to see that you are addressing Monty by her correct screen name.
Make a slip? or are you starting to reform?
(161) lsolde
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 01) Who mentioned you, sweetie-pie?
2) A terrible, dreadful & perilous slip, indeed......
Just the idea of a “Monty69“ makes me blood freeze to ice...
Knowing what you ”Basic Housewives” do to them lambs on them Islands ;-)
@162 Think,
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well, l'm relieved its not me, Think.
However my sympathy goes out to whoever the poor soul is.
Damn, & there's me thinking that you were going to be civil & not lie to Monty from now on.
Mr A_Voices colours are becoming clear. Mr Blobby with bagpipes in drag. Not too different to the effiminate Think.
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0(163) lsolde
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Allways nice to “relieve” you......, honeybunch....
@160 Think
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Unless you are actually alleging that a) the referendum was not free and fair and b) the international observers were UK stooges who corruptly covered this up, then I still have absolutely no idea what your issue is here. And when i ask you directly whether you believe it was “free and fair” or not you weakly respond that you won't answer that because i directed the question to you instead of your sock puppet!! The adults on here know what conclusion to draw from that response.
The fact is that the referendum was free and fair and the outcome represents the freely expressed view of the islanders. And if you don't believe that then by the miracle of modern communication this thread includes actual Falkland islanders who presumably can set you right - as in, the people who actually voted, who physically met the observers and whose immediate future was being freely self-determined by that vote. How amazing is that?! So as much fun as debating history is, your opinion and my opinion are of no importance at all. The Falkland islanders have spoken and this entire thread merely serves as a timely reminder of that fact.
Turnip at (166)
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0I disagree.
Clearly.
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0But refute it you can't.
Oooooh my dear old Skandhooligan semantist.
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Clever old munchkin aren't you?
To which I would reply John 10, verse 22
And while in biblical mode, perhaps you might tell your boss to look up Daniel 5 vv 23-25.
The writings on the wall, oh sage of Chubut which will give you something to chew over
Perhaps the beanstalk the old cow was munching/chewing is a soya beanstalk?
turnip at (167) you are wrong, come and visit and find out the truth.
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(169)redp0ll
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I just needed that poem to be perfect…
I did it for the cows, you know.... They are very sensible creatures...
Anyhow….. I can see that, as an English Cattle Rancher in Uruguay, you are deep interested in the Argentinean 2014 harvest…
Here, for you, the ”Panorama Agrícola Semanal” (In English for our monolingual doomsday preppers)...:
30/01/14
”Upon this scenario, bearing in mind the variations of the plots in the different regions, we maintain
our production estimation of 53,000,000 tons. If such volume is obtained, the YOY increase will report 9.3 %”
http://www.bolcereales.com.ar/descargar-documento3-0/pass-descargar
171. First, that is a widely optimistic projection, just like it is every year, year in and year out.
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Second, Even if it comes in at the top it doesn't make up for the reduced sales price.
Third, Farmers aren't going to sell it all at once. Dribs and Drabs as they need the cash.
It won't be near enough for the ravenous CFK gov't
Not near enough
As BCRA Reserves fall so does the peso. One would think even the dumbest Rg minister could understand this.
I know they are not a smart people but come on!
Awful lot of talk about forcibly confiscating the grains.
That will be super fun to watch
Super fun!
No if the argentine farmers get a good soy harvest ,good luck to them. My reasons for not planting soy I have gone into on previous threads
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Soy straw must be quite nutritious as legumes are protein rich
You should try it sometime Think
Ruminate on that.
Soy uses nitrogen fixation.
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think's fixations are entirely different.
It is sad and telling how focused Think is on SOY. Like it is the saviour of the society.
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is also sad that it is.
It is amazing that in this age large countries are wholly dependant on the vagaries of weather to know if they will be able to heat their house or drive their car or run their factories.
Can anyone else think of a large country that has placed all hopes and dreams solely on the right amount sun and rain?
160 Think
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Take no notice of that Redpoll...he knows nuffin....
..he says pentameter.....and quotes hexameter...
..best ignored on poetry.....
“.....how he tried in vain, to impress us here....”
“.....now this is Iambic pentameter...”
.....;-))))
@176
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Voicey,
To quote the German Kommandant of a camp for British POWs, addressing them on parade about their escape plans
“ gentlemen you Thinks I know F**ck nothing about your plans,
But I tell you I knows f**ck all”
177
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So tell me I'm wrong, I'll tell you I'm right
The post you have written, amounts to such shite
...and that was another example of Iambic pentameter.....;-)))
Funny that Think and Voice have the same spelling errors.
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Odd that
“Read his posts and links before embarrassing yourself further....”
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 047: Every observer from Canadem was a Canadian....
49: by Canadem...that only employ Canadian Citizens....
65: All observers are Canadian citizens
65: Every single one” of the observers is a Canadian citizen
65: If the observers were from Canadem....they were all Canadian Citizens....
101: ....all hand picked by Canada
There is no getting around the fact that he is 100% wrong in these statements. And I am somehow embarrassing myself? While you are defending this idiot when he is clearly wrong and there is no way around that.
I would say you are embarrassing yourself Think. But we all know that ship sailed many, many years ago. You are beyond embarrassment.
180. No matter how many times you tell him he is wrong, prove it with facts he'll still try and turn it around on you.
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...and now he's pretending to be estuary English!
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 028-6. 28-6!
Just because SA lies and cheats does not mean the UK and Canada does
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0180
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“All observers are Canadian citizens
Zalusky, who is taking a leave of absence from his job as executive director of the UCC to take part in the mission, dismissed any concerns. “Every single one” of the observers is a Canadian citizen, he said; there are no “new arrivals” from Ukraine.
They have all passed both Canadem and United Nations training courses and must adhere to “a very strict code of conduct on not being biased,” he added.”
...they were quotes.....from the horses mouth....I forgot to put the source, but remembered on the next post....
read it yourself here....
www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tories-under-fire-for-staffing-of-ukraine-election-observers-1.1218311
181
Oooo you are getting scary with that crystal ball...give up the waitering and go into fortune telling.....
Ignorant Turnip at (180), Mr. Zethee goes through Mr. A_Voice's posts and says...:
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“47: Every observer from Canadem was a Canadian....
49: by Canadem...that only employ Canadian Citizens....
65: All observers are Canadian citizens
65: Every single one” of the observers is a Canadian citizen
65: If the observers were from Canadem....they were all Canadian Citizens....
101: ....all hand picked by Canada”
Ignorant Turnip at (180), Mr. Zethee conveniently “MISSES” Mr. A_Voice's post No. (67) with its link to the Ukranian election.......: http://en.mercopress.com/2014/01/31/falklands-referendum-observers-mission-partially-financed-by-canada-claims-argentina#comment304473
www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tories-under-fire-for-staffing-of-ukraine-election-observers-1.1218311
What an ignorant Turnip.......
Ignorant Turnip at (180), Mr. Zethee goes through Mr. A_Voice's posts and says...:
where it is Cristal Clear and says...:
185 Think
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...they can stick their heads in the sand and deny all they like, but the facts are...
Observers were funded by Canadem
...selected by Canadem
Canadem ...funded by Canada and “UK aid for the British people”
http://www.canadem.ca/home/
...follow the link and look who it is funded by...what a huge Union Jack....
...hypocrisy or what....
(186) Mr. A_Voice
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I call it Turnipidity...........
I would suggest to change the title of the above article from...:
“Falklands referendum: Observers mission partially financed by Canada, claims Argentina”
To...:
“Malvinas/Falklands referendum: Observers mission fully financed by Canada, admits Canada”
187 Think
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0or....
“Malvinas/Falklands referendum: Observers mission fully financed by Canada/UK aid for the British people, admits Canada”
Was not keen on Clyde's advice listened to Philip Pickett's version.....couldn't find O' Fortuna to compare, but it seemed to lack drama....certainly no goosebumps...
182
Estuary English....I fink not....I just like to slum it now and then.....
To the preceding 187 comments..
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The answer is.. “Who gives a shit?”
UK - No
Anyone else - Not really
Argentina - Yes
The campaign is going nowhere, it similarly wasn't going anywhere 2 years ago and in any case Argentina has played all of its cards, to the detriment of everything else - no other states care any more, they'll be far more concerned about the fact that any and all investments made into Argentina are about to vanish into the black hole of the hyper-inflated, worthless Peso.
The correct response to Argentinian bluster over the Falklands is simply to ignore it where it doesn't pose a direct and immediate threat to the islanders interests, that means keeping fisheries open, investing in oil&gas exploration and maintaining a capable military deterrent.
Nothing else matters, no matter how much noise they make, the only route to taking the islands back is through military action or the ICJ - neither of which will go their way.
Ignore and continue.
189
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0....Rule Britannia....Britannia waives the rules......
Turnip at (189)
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I luuuuv the smell of Anglo haughtiness in the evening...
(Free after that Hollywood Kurtz turnip)
@191
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are we really trying t0 suggest here that the referendum result was fraudulent, and that hundreds of closet Malvinistas in the Falkland Islands have been scandalously denied their voice being heard?
I believe we should clear up this extremely worrisome issue forthwith, and insist on a further referendum to be carried out under strict UN auspices.
I for one can't see any reason why Argentina, with its renowned concern for human rights and the truth, could possibly object to that.
Think/A_Voice
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have been following this nit - picking post and wondering why the hell it matters. The bottom line is, was the result fair and accurately reflecting the wishes of the Falkland Islanders. Was the count correct or was it altered in any way. Did any Canadians actually vote ?
There was no indication that it was not above board so what difference did it make to the result ?
#188
It is just that I prefer the original music and instruments from the period they were written. Carl Orf interpreted these and wrote a modern orchestral version of many of the originals. I first saw it as an “opera” performed by Bavarian television, broadcast on the BBC in about 1975. I bought the LP with Lucia Popp as the soloist.
This recording is known as THE definitive version. I will have to research the net to see if there is a DVD available of it.
Here is brief excerpt from the TV Broadcast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYcQB6pK8ns
(192) HansNiesund
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Foreign & Colonial Office tried to get the UN involved in a Malvinas/Falklands referendum...
They failed miserably...
That's why they organized and paid for their own...
All “Observers” included...
Over 90% of the islanders cant be wrong,
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they wish to remain with Britain and not Argentina.
full stop
@194
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But my dear Think, that's not the point. I am merely responding positively to the worrisome doubt being raised by yourself and others as to the results of the referendum, and suggesting an entirely objective method to resolve that doubt. Surely Argentina cannot object to its doubts being addressed by the United Nations?
(188) A_Voice
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's not...:
“UK aid for the British people”
It's...:
“UK aid from the British people”
We wouldn't want to be accused of lying by the Turnips......, would we?
(196) HansNiesund
Your Foreign & Colonial Office is free to try again any time....
Good luck.
@197
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am sure the FCO would be very happy if the islanders were to choose to run their referendum again under UN auspices. My question is, why wouldn't Argentina be? I personally am deeply perturbed at the suggestion that hundreds of Malvinistas in the islands may have been denied their democratic voice by anglo-gringo chicanery, and I would like to see this matter resolved forthwith.
Why doesn't Argentina?
“47: Every observer from Canadem was a Canadian....
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 049: by Canadem...that only employ Canadian Citizens....
65: All observers are Canadian citizens
65: Every single one” of the observers is a Canadian citizen
65: If the observers were from Canadem....they were all Canadian Citizens....”
The above clear statements saying that every single observer was a Canadian citizen.
We both know that he is talking out of his backside and the above statements can not be interpreted in any other way.
He was wrong, simple as that.
Turnip at (199) Mr. Zethee
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Turnip at (199) Mr. Zethee
Turnip at (199) Mr. Zethee
Your autism has increased in the last three years...
Your autism has increased in the last three years...
Your autism has increased in the last three years...
Please read Mr. A_Voice's comment No. (67).
Please read Mr. A_Voice's comment No. (67).
Please read Mr. A_Voice's comment No. (67).
Please open and read the link provides by Mr. A_Voice on the same comment.
Please open and read the link provides by Mr. A_Voice on the same comment.
Please open and read the link provides by Mr. A_Voice on the same comment.
Do you understand now?
Do you understand now?
Do you understand now?
@200
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please allow me to reiterate my concern. Will you not join me in supporting a further referendum in the Falkland Islands under UN auspices?
Failing this, a person might think that you are only seeking to raise confusion, rather than resolve it, and in so doing have once again shot yourself in the foot by alighting upon a spectacularly inept argument whose consequences you have not properly through.
Some people, of course, are happy to believe that any argument is better than no argument, and we have seen this plenty of times already. But frankly I'm disappointed.
Ha ha Zetheeeeee...needs a new groove, he's stuck in that one....
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0are we there yet...
are we there yet...
are we there yet...
Clyde that was much better if you can find a DVD...I'd be interested in the info..
....here she is again and the range of Hermann Prey ...pretty good too...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnbWlmZmgWc
@202
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Quick. Bring on Distraction Man.
189 Great Britain
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know what you mean, but still, it is a laff to watch all the usual half-witted trolls on here spending so much thinking that if they whine and stamp their feet enough like little b*tches, it will change the out come.
“Falklands referendum: observers mission partially financed by Canada, claims Argentina”
Ha, ha!! Well, quick!! call interpol!! this is terrible!!!
More terrible than throwing nuns out of planes perhaps? No way
More terrible than invading someone else's country?? Not even close
More terrible than putting hand grenades in school children's desk?
Or more terrible than shooting your own people down like dogs in the street?
I'll wait for an answer on that but, also given the cowardly nature of said trolls, I THINK I'll be waiting for a long, long time.
Toodles!!
203
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No distraction.....you are Hans come lately ....
....this conversation between points has been going through two threads since yesterday....
...it is of interest to a few....plebs excluded...
205 A_Voice
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh A_Voice, my dear enemy......
Never before has so little been said about nothing by so many..........
Whining doesn't change anything, it only gives people a headache after a while...........
(205) A_Voice
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“ ....this conversation between points has been going through two threads since yesterday....”
I say...:
Quite correct.... And how very typical that such a civilized “Conversation Between Points” is protagonized by a Scot...: Mr. McClyde15; a presumed Scot...: Mr. McAvoice and an Albaphile Mr. McTink.....
206
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I said ...Plebs excluded......
..if you weren't such a pleb, you might have said...
....Much Ado About Nothing
...and those amongst us may have nodded our heads and thought...Ah!...a learned fellow....reads a bit....
..instead of a Whinnie corruption.....
208 A_Voice
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Corruption?????
You would like to talk about corruption???
Ok then, I'll go first shall I??? Exactly how much money has KFC stolen from argentina's coffers???
Did she really pay people to vote for her?
Wasn't that one of her friends who was caught with a big bag of money that came from who-knows-where?
Oh the joy of being lectured about corruption from an argy troll
made my day it has!!!
191. It it evening at 1pm in Chubut?
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but it is on the other side of the Atlantic
Gads these two idiots can get their lies straight even when someone points them out to them.
209
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WTF are you deflecting about?
your corruption of...
“Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few”
by Whinnie... Churchill......a word play on Whining Churchill
...we're done....you are too slow for me..
..talk to Fred the coke snorting waiter.....more your level.....
210 yankeeboy
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am surprised that they can even string a sentence between them. Given that they can't even tell the time properly yet.
Just stop lying, Think.
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can you do that for just a wittle while.?
l know that it hurts that you stupid malvinistas have been hit in the face with a wet fish.
You know that the Referendum was fair & you must have known which way we would vote.
Did you really, really, really think that we'd want to join Argentina, after all the sh!t that you've thrown our way?
You must be out of your tiny mind!
Look at Argentina.
You plonkers have turned a fair & smiling land into a rubbish dump.
Then you jump up & down & scream like demented monkeys when we refuse to submit to you.
A lot of stand-over merchants.
What would you do if by some horrible scenario you got your thieving paws on OUR land?(Capitals again, take note, A_Voice, he he he)
Drag it down to your level, no thank you too much.
You don't deserve the land of Argentina.
btw-l think your sidekick has lost his marbles, what with some of the incoherent mutterings he's offering lately.
MY only problem with the referendum is that it wasn't necessary in the first place.
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's the same simple psychology you use with a dog or a tantrum-prone child - don't reward attention seeking - there's simply no point having the argument in the first place - as previously stated, Argentina is wailing and gnashing but that's all it is capable of doing, it's annoying its neighbours more than it is annoying anyone else, so long as the economic interests and wellbeing of the islanders is protected nothing else really matters.
At this point in time the Islanders are safer than they have ever been, Argentina has exhausted its diplomatic options (and the patience of its “partners”), there are no further diplomatic or economic actions they can take AND they are facing complete economic collapse.
In fact THIS time it could be worse than the last (and lets face it there's been a few) since they won't have any international partners or in fact the IMF available to help them recover, it's quite possible they'll become the irrelevant basket-case of S.America as their neighbours westernise, diversify, and develop.
So again, the finer-points of the argument are simply best ignored, they just provide an opportunity for those like Think to get the attention they crave and require to feel relevant even at a time when they must realise there are bigger issues they should be thinking about.
Think - considering what is happening to your own country in front of your eyes, what happens almost like clockwork in your nation, can you honestly imagine any free people wanting to accept any part of the joke that “Peronism” actually is interfering with their lives? Even if they truly believed you had the “right” (and they don't) wouldn't they do everything in their power to resist? Isn't that something to respect in any people, isn't it a fundamentally heroic stance in the face of threats and adversity, that people would rather risk war and death than have anything to do with you?
213
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...and what was your...Derivation again...?...;-)))
Derivation of “Great”
After the Anglo-Saxon period, Britain was used as a historical term only. Geoffrey of Monmouth in his pseudohistorical Historia Regum Britanniae (c. 1136) refers to the island of Great Britain as Britannia major (“Greater Britain”), to distinguish it from Britannia minor (“Lesser Britain”), the continental region which approximates to modern Brittany.
...get back to school and stop growing that weed....
“So again, the finer-points of the argument are simply best ignored, they just provide an opportunity for those like Think to get the attention they crave and require to feel relevant even at a time when they must realise there are bigger issues they should be thinking about.”........I'm Argentine and I could not agree more with what you just said.
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0166 Redrow
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”(163) lsolde
Allways nice to “relieve” you......, honeybunch....
166 Redrow (#)
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 11:08 am
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@160 Think
Unless you are actually alleging that a) the referendum was not free and fair and b) the international observers were UK stooges who corruptly covered this up, then I still have absolutely no idea what your issue is here. And when i ask you directly whether you believe it was “free and fair” or not you weakly respond that you won't answer that because i directed the question to you instead of your sock puppet!! The adults on here know what conclusion to draw from that response.
The fact is that the referendum was free and fair and the outcome represents the freely expressed view of the islanders. And if you don't believe that then by the miracle of modern communication this thread includes actual Falkland islanders who presumably can set you right - as in, the people who actually voted, who physically met the observers and whose immediate future was being freely self-determined by that vote. How amazing is that?! So as much fun as debating history is, your opinion and my opinion are of no importance at all. The Falkland islanders have spoken and this entire thread merely serves as a timely reminder of that fact.“
Well, Think, (and aptly named ”A_void”),
any more avoidance? - 200 posts and you haven't said anything really, let alone proven anything.
213 Isolde
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cat got YOUR tongue?
Just to remind you....
you said....
@79 A_Voice,
Silly little man, if you care to scroll back you will find that l know only too well where the “Great” in Great Britain comes from.
The question is.....do you?
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/01/30/falklands-further-advances-democracy-and-names-complaints-commissioner#comment304707
let's scroll back shall we..?
@23paulcedron,
The country is not called “Great”Britain because we think its great(it is!)
But to distinguish the fact that its the biggest lsland in the British lsles.
Not sure but l think the Romans named it thus & called lreland, “Lesser Britain”.
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/01/30/falklands-further-advances-democracy-and-names-complaints-commissioner#comment304707
Gotcha...telling porkies....;-)))
213 Isolde
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just look @218 ThinksVoiceOver
“Gotcha...telling porkies.... ”
Wow, he sure went to a lot of trouble there, attempting to “prove” “ Isolde is wrong” or “I know more than you about Britain”
Even then, his attempted argument is only tenuous and open to HIS interpretation, LOL !!
A_ThinkVoiceOver is obsessed with having attention, and childishly, cannot bear not having the last word or baiting others for even more attention.
A bit pathetic really.
Poor lonely boy.
LOL !!
(214) Great Britain
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't you follow your own previous advice to others and just ignore us?
That would spare me of having to listen to yet another haughty Englishman telling me about some “* ”Bigger issues I should be thinking about“*”.
I have a very clear issue with a thieving colonial power called England that thinks they can come to the South Atlantic and steal some 12,000,000 sq km of territory just by planting some 2,500 English squatters in some wind blown Islands...
Do you “Engrish” want some territory in the Southern Hemisphere and Antarctica?
Go and take some back from your old colonial serfs in Australia and New Zealand... They got plenty... And it all was once legally yours....
Ruff ruff...go get em Think its dinner time.
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0think.... sod off, educate yourself, then come back with some correct history, twisting history does not change history, so you have lost the battle before it even starts!
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@220
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anybody might Think the whole Falkands thing is just a rather interesting example of a state-induced and state-maintained collective neurosis, but nothing could be further from the truth, it's actually all part of the latino-gringo race war, you see.
Truly, Argentina is the nutter on the bus of the world community.
I always fail to see why “think” who originated in Europe and colonizes Patagonia has more right than we do who originated from Europe inhabiting islands in the south Atlantic. Oh and by the way, we came to the islands before you colonised Patagonia.
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sing along
Feb 02nd, 2014 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...when in 1806 the British came for slaughter
And to this very day in the Argentine they say
The English ran away from Buenos Aires
To the islands further down and they took them for the crown --
Las Islas Malvinas Argentina
We remember William Brown and his land of great renown
He, invader of the islands from your country
When 1833 where by pirates force to flee
And in Ireland sure we know the story fully
And the people that went too to the Argentine when new,
To escape the English laws and wars and famine
They proved a loyal crew just like all the Irish do--
Las Islas Malvinas Argentina..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BniyC33QdjM
@225
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know about William Brown, but I'm strongly reminded of William McGonagall.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_McGonagall
@225 Marcos you are obsessed with the Falklands, do you have a wife or do you just get hot and sticky thinking about the Falkland Islands. I think you need to find a new hobby, because your dreams will not come true!
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0219
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Troll Tempest
Don't worry yourself it's no trouble at all....
My interpretation...Oh I don't think so....
Isolde wasn't just wrong, she attempted to mislead other readers into believing she had been right all along....
No doubt you have neglected to notice my reply at the time....
Here it is....
“25
Isolde I was always taught in school that it was called “Great” Britain to distinguish Britain from Brittany...”
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/01/06/record-spanish-incursions-into-gibraltar-waters-in-the-last-twelve-months#comment297156
I did say that I am reciprocal and this is what happens when you start with the name calling....I usually let sleeping dogs lie...but forget nothing....if you are a liar or have made persona mistakes or inconsistencies you can be damn sure I am aware of them....
It's always live and let live until You change the relationship....
I notice you have yet to comment on the article....
too busy Trolling....
Song for you....
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/01/06/record-spanish-incursions-into-gibraltar-waters-in-the-last-twelve-months#comment297156
228 AVoid
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0“It's always live and let live until You change the relationship....”
That doesn't sound like the “T&A” Troll that we know.
228
“I did say that I am reciprocal and this is what happens when you start with the name calling....I usually let sleeping dogs lie...but forget nothing....if you are a liar or have made persona mistakes or inconsistencies you can be damn sure I am aware of them....”
I did say you have a Troll Database with files on us all...
226 HansNiesund
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 02:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say “I don't know about William Brown, but I'm strongly reminded of The Wolfe Tones”
Me too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx3iB68EKUo
228 T&A
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 02:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0“too busy Trolling....”?
I like to call it, counter-Trolling
@marcos
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 07:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Wolf Tones released this in 1982 which is unfortunate as they were in effect supporting your nun-killing fascist junta's illegal invasion. Plus they weren't too supportive of the people of Northern Ireland having self-determination either. Fortunately, modern Ireland takes a different view and ~90% voted “Yes” in favour of the Good Friday Agreement as a result of which Ireland removed its constitiutional claim to the sovereignty and jurisdiction of N.Ireland. Perhaps next time the Wolf Tones could sing about Major Patricio Dowling who wasn't quite the national hero as Wiliam Brown.
@44 Brasileiro
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 07:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0You may be “Brasileiro” - but you also seem to be a totally uninformed troll!
Hello Troy,
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0We'd gone to bed so l missed A_Voice's misleading responses.
Thank you for your support, btw.
Much appreciated.
@215 A_Voice,
l didn't argue with you as regards Britainy being called Lesser Britain, you knothead.
l said that l “ thought” that Lesser Britain referred to lreland, before you informed me that it was Britainy.
So where is your argument?
Can't you even read your own posts?
And by weed, do you mean Maryjane? l gave that away, many moons ago.
Funny thing though, l told sr Think about that maybe 3 or 4 years ago.
A long time before you began posting on this site.
Are you in contact with the elusive sr Think, or are you in fact, the same person? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmn
You are both untrustworthy, so it could mean anything.
@218 A_Voice,
Porkies? what porkies(another favourite Think word!).
Please elaborate & omit no detail, no matter how trivial.
l always try to tell the truth, not always possible.
What do you say when your best friend asks you if she's fat?(& she IS fat).
However l realise that the malvinistas try to lie.
They are seldom caught out telling the truth!
@220 Think,
We don't just think that we can claim 12 million km2 of the South Atlantic, we've actually gone & done it & what are & your impotent, failed rogue state going to do about it?
l'll tell you:- precisely nothing.
Oh, you'll whine & bitch, moan & snivel, & of course, claim that “the whole world” supports you, but in fact, you'll do----NOTHING.
@228 A_Voice,
l didn't attempt anything.
You're just looking for a cheap victory.
Stop threatening(are you sure you're not an Argentine?), if you want a run for your money, then bring it on.
Pillock.Hello Troy,
We'd gone to bed so l missed A_Voice's misleading responses.
Thank you for your support, btw.
Much appreciated.
@215 A_Voice,
l didn't argue with you as regards Britainy being called Lesser Britain, you knothead.
l said that l “ thought” that Lesser Britain referred to lreland, before you informed me that it was Britain
Isolde
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0'@215 A_Voice,
l didn't argue with you as regards Britainy being called Lesser Britain, you knothead. l said that l “ thought” that Lesser Britain referred to lreland ..'
Devilish difficult, these diminutives.
I remember a classic work in ecology referring to the ecology of the Weasel, the Lesser Weasel, and the Least Weasel.
Zoologists must be praying that the even-smaller species stay well hidden.
Funnily enough, the Lunatic of Chew Butt ALSO has a database on which all “us lot” must feature.
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0I know I do from his feeble, incessant “part statements” selected to show me in the worst light.
But all you have to do is to look up the original on MP and repost it in its entirety to prove, yet again, what a liar the Lunatic is.
I often wonder what La Camping-It-Up pay this old twat because whatever it is they are wasting their money.
@232 Major Patricio Dowling, now this is a man that needs to keep his head down in Ireland, I know of a lot of people here who would like to see him.
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0234 Isolde
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0“You're just looking for a cheap victory.”
That's precisely what he is doing.
Think / A-voice (T&A) makes such a fuss about catching his pretty butterfly and pinning it, for all to see, that his gross fabrications go unnoticed,
- his “sock with a hole in it” - “Dame Dover”
- his fantasy 'residence in Pennsylvania' and his fictitious travel
- his false claim to live in Dunoon - put to rest by CaptainSilver
- and of course his “I'm a big man ” story about his bullying of neighbours and fellow drivers
And to think, all this extraordinary effort he's gone to, just to gain our approval, or at least some attention.
I'm quite sure he has a database.
“A_Voice” brings up the same items with me that “DoD” did.
AV has recently brought up a couple of items I mentioned up to a year previously.
Probably best to ignore the jealous old misogynist
:-)
The falklands are remaiming in british hands until the islamders change thier minds even if they do it will be for independence rather than being ruled by an incompetant 3rd world country that hates them. 30 odd years ago you attemped an armed land grab the sort of thing thats been illegal under international simce ww2 you lost.
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0That nullifys any and all UN resolutions before that date.
You might as well throw Marcos in that mix too. They go after me with the same insults, then the 3 of them use them weeks/ months years later.
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0He isn't smart enough to keep the personas compartmentalize, one lives in Chubut, one in N Europe yet they both post at the same time a minute apart, in the dead of night ( on my side of the atlantic) then it is evening in Chubut at 1pm and morning at 3am!
There is nothing more insufferable than a stupid person who thinks he is smart.
@240 yankeeboy &
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@238 TroyTempest,
l believe that you two are correct.
When you annalyse their grammar & syntax, you begin to see a pattern.
e.g. @218 A_Voice,
“lets scroll back shall we” the “shall we”--pure Think.
telling “porkies”----more Thinkspeak.
;-))))-----Think does this often.
small clues, but a beginning.
Men have been hanged on less evidence than this.
Wal, who'd a' thunk et?
A_Voice, Think's Siamese twin.
There is something psychotic about having to have different personas support you and attack detractors on an open forum.
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It has been obvious to me for a long time there is something seriously wrong with Think.
I think it is funny that after attacking me for years about how I thought the K admin was ruining the country there is nary a peep about the imminent collapse.
He appears to be neurotic, if he can find the smallest typo about the Falklands he'll beat it to death even when it is pointed out that he is wrong.
Isolde #241
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They may indeed be twins in body - less likely to have been joined at the hip, but more likely the psychological product of a split persona - schizophrenia or bipolar disorder. Recent experiments stimulating the brain of one party can create the experience of the other. But for Think and Voice, the problem is deciding which is 'real' and which is his doppelganger, for both profess reality.
The only test would be “Would the 'real' person please stand up”.
'A doppelgänger is often perceived as a sinister form of bilocation and is regarded by some to be a harbinger of bad luck. In some traditions, a doppelgänger seen by a person's relative or friend portends illness or danger while seeing one's own doppelgänger is said to be an omen of death.'
'Recent scientific experimentation has duplicated several doppelgänger effects when electrical stimulation was applied to the left temporoparietal junction of a patient's brain.'
'In contemporary vernacular, the word doppelgänger is often used in a more general sense to identify any person that physically ‒ or perhaps even behaviorally ‒ resembles another person without regard to the word's original paranormal meaning, thus shifting it back to the original German meaning of look-alikes.' (Wiki)
Of course the real fun is to create different personalities that debate with each other - like Think and his alter ego have been showing us recently.
The value of this is that it mirrors the pair of Cristina de Kirchner's personalities; I doubt if our Doppel-Think has worked out how much we all benefit from his exposure/exposé of the mind of his Presidenta.
@136 What a shame. You were starting to sound intelligent there for a few seconds. Let's take a look at “apply it to a little bunch of English squatters squatting on some Antipodean Islands usurped and invaded by the British navy in 1833”. Not English. Not “squatters” except in your brain-dead “opinion”, that is of no significance. Not “Antipodean”. You need to look the term up. Neither “usurped” nor “invaded”. United Provinces had NO legal entitlement. Britain DID. There was no “invasion”. The captain of a Royal Navy vessel merely invited a pissy little colonist to piss off. And he did. Probably thought it preferable to dying. One ship versus one ship. And the UP thing set the argie pattern. It ran away.
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@139 When will you be getting some?
@146 Tell us, O wise one, is West Falkland within “range” of East Falkland? In view of its attitude in 1770/71, could Britain have wiped out any UP settlement? At what point do murderers and rapists become “settlers”? In view of the confirmed principle in international law of “uti possidetis”, nothing before 1982 is relevant. And 1982 says ALL the Islands are British!
@156 This may come as a total shock to you. But, in 2011, the alternative vote referendum was funded by the British government. Argies like to introduce irrelevancies. In the forlorn hope that it will make a difference.
@162 You mean you won't “comment” unless you're addressed? Or is that another argie lie?
@176, 178 Shit sticks to shit. And you stick to Twinky. Says a lot.
@184-188 The point here seems to be that a couple of tossers think that argie electoral propriety is better than that of Canada or the Falkland Islands.
@197 But then you DO lie. All the time. Shall we comment on the Ministry of Foreigners Raped by Tinboy?
@200 A stutter is symptomatic of a mental disorder. No surprise there!
@211 It's “Winnie”, you tosspot.
@218 Thick, uneducated git.
@228 A tip. “Great” Britain is so-called because it includes islands.
243 GeoffWard2
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Et tu, Brute...?
Looks like Think, A_Voice, Dod etc has been completely exposed and knackered!
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Must be masochists, keep coming back for more. I wonder what the Peso rate per post is? Will it buy a plate of gruel?
The 5 islands will disappear by climate change:
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 01. Salomon Islands
2. Malvimas
3. Seychelles
4. Fiji
5. Samoa
hahahaha bennys, start preparing the oars.
247. And in 2008 they were predicting no ice on the polar caps in 5 years. Are you going to look like an idiot for another 5 years posting nonsense like that?
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@247
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malvimas, where the hell is that? Is it an island or a continent?
Dear Doppel-Voice #245,
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as my last boss said:
“It's nothing personal”.
@25, BrasileirA, your “” If Argentina were a cancer, America would be dead for two hundred years ago. We know living with Argentina, but not with cancer, such as the Falklands“”, is too profoundly stupid to comment on ; In yr #27, your ignorance has led you to making about the only correct statement you've ever made in your life ; Yr #29: “ British firms have no chance to survive in the tropical capitalism!”....no idea what “tropical capitalism” is supposed to be, but please be informed that British firms established in Brazil are doing very well, thank you ; Seems you did not understand Yankeeboy's #76 “You can't depreciate your way to wealth”....WTF d'you mean by yr #80 “Wealth? China is, Brasil and USA not!” and your #86 “Yes, WE Can!”....so in your underdeveloped brain, Brazil can depreciate its way to wealth ???? Explain how you do that, can't wait to read more crap...; Yr #88 is a masterpiece , “ We're too stupid to stay united. And Venezuela and Zimbabwe are problem of us, not China”... only correct thing there is “We're too stupid”...you summed yourself up pretty well ; @91, Yankee, you should have realized by now - As so should I - that it's no use trying to get any sense out of BrasileirA. He (or she) opens its mouth to utter nonsensical phrases, and when challenged, always comes back with total stupidity...on the other hand, “it” is probably a good representative of the ignorant, brainwashed PT militancy....what can you expect from an idiot who claims that to have a differential in Brazil, you've got to speak Portuguese, and that by knowing English (and other languages) will get you nowhere .....sad but true, and these idiots actually have the right to vote !!
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(245) A_Voice
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chère Isolde has a point when she says ...:
“”” lets scroll back shall we” the “shall we”--pure Think.
telling “porkies”----more Thinkspeak.
;-))))-----Think does this often.“””
..................... She forgot our shared luuuuuv for ellipses though................ ;-))))
She says further...:
“ Men have been hanged on less evidence than this.”
Jupppppppp....... Specially in America.... If black.... Not so long ago...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Web007rzSOI
I can't understand though that she (and GeoffWardII) can't spot the gigantic quality difference between your native Queen's English and my pathetic efforts.....
Strange....
252 Think
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hah ha...don't be so critical of yourself, your English is far better than most of the so called English on here....
I'm not surprised by the, “basic housewife” comments...she is as dippy as they come and has the memory of a goldfish...
for example...
@234...“And by weed, do you mean Maryjane? l gave that away, many moons ago.
Funny thing though, l told sr Think about that maybe 3 or 4 years ago.
A long time before you began posting on this site.
Are you in contact with the elusive sr Think, or are you in fact, the same person? ”
...but....
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/01/02/colorado-usa-celebrates-the-end-of-marihuana-prohibition-and-opens-new-chapter#comment296218
...only a month ago...;-))
...and what does she mean she gave it away...did she have a stash...?
...but I was very surprised at GeoffWards2.....hence my Shakespearean exclamation @245...he should know better.....
Strange....
Files... indeed I do, but they are analogue....commonly known as memory in my head....
...and I definitely do not use the free 15 GB storage in the cloud from Google Drive...;-)))
...and I would never ever think of following the trails and connections that are made when folk happen to click on the facebook links at the side whilst they are on here...if you have a facebook account...don't do it....
Gross here they go again.
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 012 Dozen...?
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(253) A_Voice
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“....did she have a stash...?”
I say...:
:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Quick Isolde........ Reformat your hard drive........ The kids could read this......
Consciously offering background info. - but only so far.
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How many posters dare do that!
Never been abused yet.
But it is essential to be consistent with your own views - leavened with humour on occasions (#243;-) of course.
@ 243 GeoffWard2
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“leavened with humour on occasions”
In the spirit, if not the word regarding Lunatic and Voice instead of “The only test would be “Would the 'real' person please stand up”” you could always use one of your pistols and shoot “one” of them in the head and wait for the other to complain of a headache.
Oh, just spotted a possible flaw in that scenario, but never mind, eh? As bootsie used to say.
:o)
@253 A_Voice &
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@256 Think,
You 2(?)now playing good cop-bad cop?
Only who is who?
l'm more & more convinced now that you 2 are one person.
You both disappoint me as l had began/begun to see SOME different good in the pair of you.
So you are both frauds?
l see a lot of other posters don't have too much time for you pair(1?)either.
Oh well, life goes on.
Now we've had our little fun, deflecting from the main article, aren't you two(?) happy that our Referendum told “the whole world” that we do not want anything to do with Argentina?
l know that l am & l couldn't care less WHAT Argentina thinks about it.
A_Voice, don't you read your own posts?
You've got a peanut brain mate, with the attention span of a retarded gnat.
Read again the comments on the mp article that you posted @253.
Pillock
259. I think they're playing dumb and dumber.
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mr. A_Voice
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She surely could use some of that stash now...;-)
#230
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just to even up the rhetoric try this one....also from Ireland.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyzDG93qv5g
Hard to believe this is the most commented-on article on MP.
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is anyone saying the referendum was rigged in someway?
If so, prove it.
Otherwise, just shut the hell up!
McDonalds ran out of ketchup in Argentina.
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a world, what a world
The end is nigh
I can't wait for the current regime in Argentina to fall...
Feb 04th, 2014 - 12:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Idiots, like their trolls!
263. Me either, the anticipation is hard to take. But it is oh so fun to watch!
Feb 04th, 2014 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0262
Feb 04th, 2014 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Was that bait Mr Clyde?...well I'm not going to disappoint you...
so...is your favourite colour Orange....?
...and just plain blue and white....never green and white...?
BCRA reserves down another U$250MM today.
Feb 04th, 2014 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0tick tock
@262 Voicey,
Feb 04th, 2014 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Before you comment please learn the colours of the flag of the Irish Republic
269
Feb 04th, 2014 - 01:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0There are those that know and there are those that don't know....
...this is for Clyde's eyes only...he knows what I'm saying.....
....this is beyond your ken.....English man...
Well you don't Voicey. Perhaps Clyde should have posted “The Sash”instead
Feb 04th, 2014 - 01:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0You going to come up with “Kevin Barry” as a riposte?
I most definitely do know and so will Clyde....but you as an outsider....do not...
Feb 04th, 2014 - 01:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's no use groping in the dark...it's a Scottish thing...
Stick to your ain folk....
Ach Voicey acushla,ye wee gosoon, get back across the sheugh to to your wee cabin in Hartlepool, ye shite (your word in post to me, not mine)
Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am perfectly aware of Clyde's line of thinking as a doonhamer, which I may or not agree with
You are just fishing....Clyde's hame was a bit further north...he may be doon a bit now....
Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0I know Hartlepool...Seaton Carew...Seal Sands....across the Tees to Redcar ...Saltburn...Staithes (Captain Cook worked there as a boy)...Whitby (where he went next)...Scarborough....
It's all within my area of interest.....that's all....
You keep a record so you know where Clyde lives. If you look back on previous posts your home was West Hartlepool. Now you claim to be a Scots householder entitled to vote in the referendum.
Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please make your mind up
You have files on everybody you say.
Servicio Intelligencia Nacional perhaps?
SIN is their acronym.
Are you just another sinner?
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Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0You listen to, to much nonsense from the paranoid...I have a really good memory that's all....
Have never ever said I was from West Hartlepool...can't imagine where that came from....
There is surely no one important enough on here to have files on...only people that think they are of consequence imagine such things.....
...Not mentioning any names......(Troy Tempest) Whoops....
...there's nothing like feeding their ego's and paranoia.....;-)))
Way past my sleep time...
....gone.....
269, 271, 273, 275 Redpoll
Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please Redpoll, keep it up - you've got the Troll all PO'd that you are playing in his private sandbox, without an invitation!
Ha ha, its all about Control and Attention, isn't it ???
LOL !!
@277 well I do try but with elegance rather than effing and blinding!
Feb 04th, 2014 - 03:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0They trip themselves up in their own verbiage
Commander Dod in the RBL club in Dover,think talking about Celia's cat in the Falklands and our Stevie saying he lives on a lake in Dunoon.
I don't Think they ever trained as fencers.they rush in with sabres when what is required is delicate riposte with an épée.
278 Redpoll,
Feb 04th, 2014 - 03:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0As Flanders & Swann would say, “Olé, I have made a 'ole!!”
Actually, if I remember, “Steve” was “post-meltdown” after a lengthy stint covering the Trolls during the Blackout.
It was “A_Voice” who was the blustering “Buffoon from Dunoon”.
Oh dear I got it wrong. Of course Stevie is our Uruguayan traitor on present on his holidays in Solymar Uruguay intent on betraying what he says is his native country even though he has a Swedish passport
Feb 04th, 2014 - 03:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0“...and just plain blue and white....never green and white...?”
Feb 04th, 2014 - 07:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wot, N.Ireland? But then you'd have known that if you were from round here!
I genuinely don't know whether you are trying to be funny/ironic with your characters (in which case fair enough) or whether you genuinely believe people think Voice and DoD are real Brits. We clocked the monkey-hanger Voice the very first time he appeared with his Taxpayers Alliance concerns about UK spending on the Falklands. Though feel free to keep naming areas of Hartlepool as that was really convincing me!
281
Feb 04th, 2014 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0....another ignorant fool that thinks he knows what I'm referring to...
Redpoll...Redrow...what's next RedBull....
@280
“Oh dear I got it wrong”.....Is that some sort of understatement??
From the beginning of your stupid posts @269...thinking I had a flag colour wrong to wittering on about Hartlepool....show me this dream post to verify ...“They trip themselves up in their own verbiage”
You silly old duffer the only trip you should be taking..is one to the doctors to check your Alzheimer's.....where do you get this stuff from?...Hartlepool and Stevie from a Lake....There is only one lake in Scotland...the rest are lochs....
...now don't you feel stupid for your self congratulating @278....
..by fencing you must be referring to Stobs and Rails.
..delicate....ri“Post”e indeed.....;-))))
280 Redrow
Feb 04th, 2014 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Oh dear I got it wrong.”
Don't worry Redrow, you're not the only one who can't tell A-Voice from his a-hole :-)
@282
Feb 04th, 2014 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think
Obviously you mean the hoops, that was obvious from the outset, but you would have said hoops or bhoys if you were from here as otherwise green and white applies equally to N.Ireland which is the subject of the song. There's no point salting your character with a few facts, you are either authentic or you aren't.
The bhoys have got your number, Thinkus Fakeus Squattus! lol
Feb 04th, 2014 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0284
Feb 04th, 2014 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are not fooling anyone....;-)))
If it was obvious you would have got it from the outset....it's taking you how many hours of Google to get even an inkling...and what has blue and white got to do with N.Ireland ...doh!...
My post was never about N.Ireland ....
You still don't get it...but why would you....you're English
It was purposely cryptic enough to exclude the stupid English and wannabes, but obvious to Clyde of he's from where he says he's from.....
Give it up ....you are embarrassing yourself pretending to knowledgeable...after displaying your ignorance and Alzheimer's....
...Lake Stevie...;-)
My reference was for Marcos pointing out that there is also another point of view in Ireland...not everyone wants reunification. The bulk of the people in N.Ireland feel British and support the British army. They consider the British army are home.
Feb 04th, 2014 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0I was going to post the “Sash” but I could not find a “neutral” version of the song which did not include an Orange parade with the usual beating of the Lambeg drum.
As a young man I was a member of the Folk song club in Glasgow and can remember various singers pushing Irish rebel songs glorifying murder and mayhem. The result was that it divided the audience into pro and anti.
Luckily I saw through both sets of extremists. When the people N. and S.
are ready, it will happen. The analogy with Argentina and the Falklands is obvious. You cannot bomb or force a people to a lasting union with threats.
Only when both peoples want it, can it happen.
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Feb 04th, 2014 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Opps..I mistook you for Redpoll then....teach you for calling me Think....
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......Nevertheless....I won't be calling you a Jacobite......
@ 286&288 Think
Feb 04th, 2014 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Give it up ....you are embarrassing yourself pretending to knowledgeable.”
Since when is knowing about the Old Firm pretending to be knowledgeable?!
Anybody in the UK that knows about football is extremely familiar with the biggest game in Scotland (and its 3-yr hiatus), you see we have the BBC, not the EBC. I didn't mention the OF in 281 because I was making the point that if you were British you would have referred to the hoops or bhoys rather than the green and white because the latter would have been ambiguous in the context of a song about N.Ireland. I don't even know why I'm explaining this - your A-Voice character is so fake that you were made straightaway and yet persist with it. And if you think talking about football shirts is “cryptic” then I would advise against a career in espionage.
Anyway, what about that referendum? Do you agree is was free and fair?
The amusing thing about this is that EVERYONE knew that the this NGO had partially funded the observers at the Falklands referendum, prior to the referendum being held.
Feb 04th, 2014 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even more amusing is the fact that the Argentine government said that this referendum was invalid, and know they're desperately...very desperately...trying to produce some reason as to why it is invalid.
This is despite the fact that they say that the 'world' is in agreement with them and that 'no-one' recognised the result. Except the Canadians, and the EU.
I love the smell of desperation in the morning, and the afternoon, and the evening. The Argentine government reeks of it right now.
289 Red Bull
Feb 04th, 2014 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not cryptic....You have got to be kidding..
Yeah I can see everyone that watches BBC would immediately realise I was talking about shirts from this post....
“so...is your favourite colour Orange....?
...and just plain blue and white....never green and white...?”
.....you've got to be kidding...it's on par with the times crossword for cryptic.....
I'm starting to PMSL laughing at your attempts to hide the fact from your post that you didn't have a clue...@281
Afterwards you did what any idiot could have done...typed a Google search...“green and white Scotland”.....and up came Celtic in the search...;-)
Again...you have it wrong...the post also had nothing to do with Football and everything to do with the area Clyde is from....
Save it......you are too obvious and embarrassing......
@282. Red bull? Nice one Voicey.
Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unfortunately he is otherwise occupied with thirty heifers at present but will be at your service next month
Lakes? Methinks you are lying in Mentieth ye wee gomeril. There are several others albeit man made. Twa bawbees prize if ye can name tothers.
Alzheimer's? Aren't they a lost Highland clan from Brigadoon? Memory fails me on that one but to be sure. Enlightenment please.
Stobs and rails. Very smart policies you have me lad. Most farmers use stobs and netting to keep the pigs from straying
Or by stobs and rails are you referring to a station on the long defunct Waverley railway?
OMG, don't tell me you are one of those false Elliotts?
The single l and double t
Descend from Minto and Wolflee
The double t and single l
Mark the old race that at Stobs do dwell
But double l and double t
Who they are none can tell.
Think and his various personas are neurotic.
Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pick pick pick pick
beat a dead horse to death
But when the table is turned they get ugly and name call like a child
It is embarrassing
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Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Without Googling I only know of one lake...Menteith (Mary Queen of Scots)....
Stobs...Posts.....Rails....the pieces of wood between them....Fencing...riposte ri“post”e....oh dear...;-)
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Whose calling names....Cokehead
@Think
Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You aren't thinking this through. Imagine i pretend to be from Buenos Aries - a quick bit of internet research and i say something obvious about the place. Straightaway you will think what i said sounded odd and inauthentic. Well that is how you sound. Were i then to claim that in fact it was YOU that did not know about Argentina then that would be even odder and more desperate. So just to be clear, i know a great deal about all 4 countries of the Home nations and can even discuss the crap view at Hampden if you wish without reference to google. I have also been to Hartlepool more than once and with respect to the monkey-hangers wasn't overly impressed though i've been to worse. So why on earth are you suggesting i have to Google about my own country? Why would you think that would look credible?
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Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm starting to see red everywhere....
Scotland is not your country....
Clyde answered the question...a right footer, but not a bigoted one...
In Glasgow the general rule....Celtic (green)...Catholic...Rangers (blue) Protestant
“...and just plain blue and white....never green and white...?”
...to someone from Glasgow that line would suffice...
he got it straight away..you didn't.....give it up...
Worse redrow? Middlesbrough perhaps? Or Ebbw Vale?
Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or Blunderland...or Jarrow
Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0neurotic simply neurotic
Feb 04th, 2014 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0or “ The lady doth protest too much, methinks ”
I wonder if its morning or afternoon where Think is right now.
Sometimes he forgets
Shame on you Joicey. Sunderland? (Monkwearmouth) and Jarrow? The birthplaces of journalism. Read the Venemous Bede and his Anglosaxon Chronicle for a furtherance of your education
Feb 04th, 2014 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@213 - the Falklands Islands will be an independent nation one day. We Brits will stand with you always. The thieving, manipulative (albeit fabulously failing at influence), lying Argentinians will be kept under control until you're safe. Our friends and allies have our backs as we have yours....... Argentina will and is failing. The nation crumbles as we speak, and the numerous stolen goods will be taken back....... Argentina will fall into the pages of history as another failed currupt state.........
Feb 04th, 2014 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Clyde.
Feb 04th, 2014 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0While on the subject of N.Ireland you say “You cannot bomb or force a people to a lasting union with threats”.
But I ask, isn't that how N.Ireland was formed in the first place ??
There was/are a native Irish people throughout that land who did not want to be part of a union with GB.
Yet it was hoisted on them that they should now live in a newly born country, separated/sectioned from the rest of their original country.
A section formed by means of threat of force, the people now finding themselves in a union they didn't want.
Were there no bargains struck under threat of force ??
Compromises instead of war.
A people in a lasting union through threat of force ??
@297 redpoll
Feb 04th, 2014 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0not been to 'Boro but yes i toured the valleys on a wet December day and was happy enough to get back to Cardiff. For the record my worst would have to be Kirby on Merseyside for England (tho that was quite a while ago), the areas around Ibrox and Parkhead for Scotland and W.Belfast for N.I. (Of either tribe).
'The point of law is quite simple, but ultimately basic to the international rule of law. It is this: historic title, no matter how persuasively claimed on the basis of old legal instruments and exercises of authority - except in the most extraordinary circumstances - prevail in law over the right of non-self-governing people to claim independence and establish their sovereignty through the exercise of bona fried self-determination.' Opinion of Judge Thomas Franck, International Courts of Justice, 2001.
Feb 04th, 2014 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To brighten up a rainy afternooon, and quite off topic, a wee story which may amuse oor Scots fitba fans.
Feb 04th, 2014 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Many years ago in a small toon in Perthshire there existed a wee football club, Rattray Rovers, very much an amateur third division club that played on the Inch of a Satterday. They had few fans most of whom went to the matches as a joke.
Well now one season they weren’t playing too bad and had a good run in the cup till they got drawn against the Rangers at Hampden Park in Glasgow in the quarter finals. Excitement in the wee toon was intense and almost all of them went to support their team.
The Rattray contingent was a wee bit overawed by the multitude of the Rangers fans and the insults they shouted so kept quiet.
Then the ref awarded a penalty to the Rovers and they scored!!! The boys frae the Gorbals didn’t agree at all with that and not just insults but bottles and beer cans begin to fly against the Rattray supporters.
A wee chappie down in the front of the stand tried to ward off the missiles and his neighbour said
“Stan up straight man. Its nae guid dooking an weaving. If one o them things has your name on it it’s going to hit you anyway whatever ye do.”
“Och aye that’s why I’m fair scairt.”
“Whys tha?”
“Ye no remember my name is Foster MacEwan?”
#302
Feb 04th, 2014 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have an over simplistic view of Irish politics. The Irish would fight with their own shadows
There was/are a native Irish people throughout that land who did not want to be part of a union with GB.
conversely, there was a sizeable majority in the North who did not want to be part of the new Irish republic mainly because of the predominant role give to the Roman Catholic Church. They had been there for about 400 years and felt distinct from the S. Irish population both in religion and culture.
When the first shots were fired, the results were foreseeable.
Partition, although not an ideal solution, was at least better than war.
If unification had been thrust on this group, then they would have followed the IRA's example and carried the fight to Dublin and the South. If they had been forced into the new Republic then a vicious civil war would have ensued spilling over to mainland Britain.
If you knew anything about N.Ireland, then you would know compromise is not in the vocabulary. The protestant side's marching tune is “NO SURRENDER”
Sad, but you are dealing with raw emotion on both sides.
Just think, the Republics national anthem is“ The Soldiers Song”...compromise ?
The Irish would fight with their own shadows.
Feb 04th, 2014 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Spanish are bullies.
Hispanics have different mindsets.
I didn't see much democracy happening in your comment.
Funny how the right to self determination travels around the world with Britain so often and seems to always fall on GB's side.
PS: I can only think of 1 country Ireland has had a fight with.
(Maybe south Atlantic oil can cover the bill for the costly venture in Ireland).
Clyde. A vicious civil war did ensue in the Republic after the Brits left.
Feb 04th, 2014 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A struggle for power between two factions.
While it's never been proved Michael Collins was ambushed and assassinated ,if not on the direct orders of de Valera, almost certainly with his connivance.
And de Valera who was he? A Cuban American who would go to any lengths to remain in power.
He even sent Germany his commiseration on the death of Hitler
'307
Feb 04th, 2014 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I said, you know SFA about Ireland and the Irish.
I stand by the first 3 remarks.
What do you know about democracy ? Your country is hell-bent in trying to deny it to the Falkland Islanders.
Your idea of democracy is the subjugation of a people by a majority.
You make the common mistake of “Hispanics” of thinking Ireland is one identity. It is an island with two distinct cultures. It does not matter a monkey's what the mainland British say about the situation, the Protestant majority in the North would not accept a forced union with the republic.
If Britain cast them adrift, they would probably declare their own independence and then all hell would break loose.
The people of Ulster were given the choice and chose to remain with Britain.
I realise that this does not fit in with your political “values”
PS: I can only think of 1 country Ireland has had a fight with.
Think again. Tens of thousands of Irish from the Republic joined the British Army, Navy and Air force to fight against the Nazis and Japan in WW2.
Funny how the right to self determination travels around the world with Britain so often and seems to always fall on GB's side.
Well at least you managed to get this correct !
I am afraid that your last remark is absolutely meaningless as are most of your abstract postings.
So long as you're comfortable with the contradictions.
Feb 04th, 2014 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0N.Ireland, Falklands, Gibraltar, Diego Garcia.
Stay strong plucky underdog.
@307 Vestige
Feb 04th, 2014 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the recent Troubles, the IRA murdered 2.5 times as many N.Irish people as mainland “Brits” and even managed to kill more Catholics than the loyalist UDA/UFF. They also Disappeared a dozen people and killed a nun (sound familiar?). Today the Irish and British security forces work together to counter the threat from dissident Republicans. And as Clyde pointed out, when the time came to fight the nazis, there were as many Southern Irish men who joined the British Army as Northern Irish men. Sorry if any of that doesn't fit with your view of the world.
Anyway, what was your view of the referendum? Free and fair?
Thanks for the random stats, nuns, and parade of horrors, but I really don't see any way Ira etc, and local N.Ireland politics relate directly to what I said.
Feb 04th, 2014 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My point being more focused on the contrasts in policy.
Ireland was only mentioned in context.
@312
Feb 05th, 2014 - 12:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0What exactly was your point. All I saw was innuendo. Or is it your usual Stalinist point that orderly borders are more important than the people who live behind them?
307 Vestige
Feb 05th, 2014 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0huh??
what??
translate please!
#310
Feb 05th, 2014 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0An absolutely meaningless reply..as I have come to expect from you.
lol.... Stalinist, a new one, must add that to the list of insults and threats.
Feb 05th, 2014 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@316
Feb 05th, 2014 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gosh, has somebody threatened you on the Internet? It wasn't me, I 'm sure. But I think the Stalinist insult is a pretty apt one, although 'anglophobe' or maybe just 'racist' is probably a better epithet for one such as yourself, who is fully prepared to support any campaign against democracy and human rights, just so long as it's Brits who suffer.
Curiously in my experience, it tends to be only Argentines and avowed latino supremacists such as Think and Stevie who hold such beliefs. I wonder why that is?
oooh Anglophobe too.
Feb 05th, 2014 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0that news to me comrade.
@318
Feb 06th, 2014 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm sure it is. Some people are just chronically lacking in self-awareness, I guess, and unable to draw conclusions from the positions they're taking.
So show me my Anglophobia.
Feb 06th, 2014 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@320
Feb 06th, 2014 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Twat
@320 - Double twat with an extra helping of tosser!
Feb 06th, 2014 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0VOICE...a truce !
Feb 06th, 2014 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A total digression, anyway the thread to this topic has vanished up it's own nether region.
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I received it within 3 days and watched it tonight. It makes the thread of the songs understandable. The sound quality is fine but not as good as the LP.
Lucia Popp can hit a high note that would scare the bats out a belfry.
I have actually experienced this. We were in Bellapaise, N.Cyprus following the trail of Lawrence Durrell's autobiography Bitter Lemons and had our dinner in the restaurant called the Tree of Idleness -mentioned in the book.
We discovered that there was a recital being held in the old abbey by a young Turkish soprano so we went in to hear the concert.
It was rather embarrassing as we were dressed somewhat casually and guests were arriving from limos, in evening wear.
Then we found out that the President of N.Cyprus was attending so we hid up at the back row of seats.
The young woman had a beautiful soprano voice and in one aria she hit a top C and held it.
A few seconds later we heard screeching from the vaults in the roof and several Swifts shot out their nests and flew about before settling back again.
We waited until all the audience had departed before we ventured out to the accompaniment of a thunderstorm and Scops owls hooting to each other.
All the taxis had been taken and we were faced with a mile walk in the rain when the restaurant owner invited us in while he arranged transport for us.
He plied us with drink and some mezes and discussed the political situation since the Turkish invasion. To my surprise, although a Turkish Cypriot, he hated the bloody Turks. When we mentioned we were Scottish, you would have thought we were his long lost cousins. He would not let us pay for anything including the taxi. As a young man, he had been helped by a Scottish service family.
A memorable evening.
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Feb 07th, 2014 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks Clyde...if you recommend it...I'll order it up and give it a bash...
I go to the Theatre Royal Glasgow fairly often and always tart up for it, as everyone else makes the effort...would feel embarrassed to be casual...no wonder you hid..
#324
Feb 07th, 2014 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All I can say is that I enjoyed it. It is not the exact version I saw on TV all those years ago but rather an unexpurgated version. The nearest analogy is Chaucer set to music ! It is set in the same period.
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