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Uruguay has an important role to play in promoting better relations say visiting delegates to Falkland Islands
The cross-party delegation of Uruguayan parliamentarians currently visiting the Falkland Islands appear quite unmoved by what their leader Jaime Trobo described as the “dust storm” that their visit had created both at home in Uruguay and in neighbouring Argentina. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIm still not feeling this so called Latam Unity, are you Argentina? :))))
Feb 13th, 2014 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TMBOA will need more brain surgery after this.
Feb 13th, 2014 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Enlarging on this theme of neighbourliness, Mr Trobo said that if the delegation were to be asked what they dreamed of, it would be to able to board an aircraft in Montevideo and to find themselves two and a half hours later walking along the Stanley waterfront, with the same possibility existing in the opposite direction for Islanders. The delegation was going to work to make this dream a reality.
Asked whether this dream was one shared by others in Uruguay, Mr Trobo said that a serious study of public opinion recently carried out in Uruguay had revealed that eighty per cent of Uruguayans looked forward to an intensive exchange with the Islands and favoured the present visit of their parliamentarians.
After so much expression of optimism about the beginning of a new era of good relations between Uruguay and the Falkland Islands, and without mentioning any country in particular, Deputy Trobo concluded by saying that the deliberate, but often concealed actions being taken to block trade with the Islands was “a sad thing” and all the neighbouring countries in Latin America had to work together to break and end this blockade. The Falkland Islanders had the right to liberty, autonomy and to be allowed to live happily with their neighbours.
1924 - January 30th, Henry Gresham also becomes Consul for Chile, and will add Uruguay later in the year.
Feb 14th, 2014 - 04:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0That info came from the London Gazette. Anyone know the date it closed in 1971 ??
http://falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/1900-1944/
Refreshing to read some common sense at last!
Feb 14th, 2014 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0It seems that “Stevie” isn't particularly “representative”. Perhaps he just wants a war in which he can achieve much “glory”. From behind his keyboard 1200 miles away.
Feb 14th, 2014 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0But I noticed that, apparently, the Uruguayans referred to the Falkland Islands both as a “nation” and a “country”. The fact that Snr Pozzi was “forced” to stay behind in Uruguay indicates that Pepe still doesn't have any balls. Has the Evil Witch warned him? Does she have her steely fingers clamped around them? At his age, I can't imagine it would make any difference if they dropped off. In fact, if he's ever had any, it seems he's never used them.
You have to heartened by listening to this man. Uruguay is a small country which has an arm of an advanced world economy on it's doorstep who could be assisting them with their development on many levels.
Feb 14th, 2014 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's a no brainer, but alas brains are confused in Latam.
“ Considering that the Falkland Islands imports 87% of its consumer goods and only 4 % comes from Uruguay, Mr Trobo said that he had to wonder why Uruguay did not aspire to export 60% of the Islanders’ needs.”
Feb 14th, 2014 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Common sense from Uruguay's opposition-if Argentina doesn't want to benefit from trade and the Falkland islander's expertise with wind power-then let Uruguay benefit.
Incidentally, will Argentina issue arrest warrants for all these people?
There you go, Uruguay. Common sense.
Feb 14th, 2014 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Uruguay plus the Falkland's equals more trade , friendship ,
Feb 14th, 2014 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and democracy,
but alas CFK will be screaming at the mirror again,
cover your ears...lol
I can't see how Argentina can object to an air link from Montevideo when they have a regular monthly service from Argentina to MPA run by LAN through Rio Gallegos
Feb 14th, 2014 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think Argentina just has to admit that it has lost any chance it has of “regaining” (ironic comment) the islands.
Feb 14th, 2014 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It has two simple choices
1) To continue its current course and follow a course that it knows it will never win (as witnessed by lack of ICJ activity) and just become a laughing stock. The cracks are now apparent in “Latam unity” - money talks, bullshit walks!
2) To move on to the 21st century, embrace links with the islands and possibly share some of the benefits
Whilst CFK is in charge (by the skin of her teeth/ or tied behind her ears) then we will always be in the first state but maybe there is hope for the future.
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Feb 14th, 2014 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Go back to the Stone Age,
Stand on the shores in their leotards and lion cloths and shout,
The islands are ours, we want we want..lol
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Argentina has never kept any treaty which is not to her liking
Feb 14th, 2014 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Doesn't matter what govt is in power her main rival for hegemony in South Amarica is Brazil
To this end RA has alliances with Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador and her client state Uruguay
Get the picture?
The Mercosur is just a stalking horse, rather similar to the Ribbentrop pact between Hitler and Stalin and the Falklands issue is a smokescreen.
Can't Dilma and Co see further than their own noses
Always liked Uruguay.
Feb 14th, 2014 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@13 Venezuela isn't exactly having a great time at the moment - this from the UK Guardian. CFK must be getting very nervous now..
Feb 14th, 2014 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/14/venezuela-violent-clashes-chavistas-opposition
“The other fifty percent were represented by the ruling Broad Front Alliance, one of whose representatives had been part of the delegation and had taken part in the preparations for the visit. Unfortunately, at the last minute, due to political circumstances within his party, Mr Jorge Pozzi had decided not to take part.”
Feb 14th, 2014 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There you have it folks, the stupid, illiterate, commie bastards who run that party are frightened shitless by TMBOA.
Tupamaros were always cowards and it seem will always be cowards, so can you expect anything better?
Well done to all the Uruguayan representatives that did take part.
Let’s hope that the air link does happen but I am not hopeful with the Broad Fraud Party in charge.
Uruguay, fucked by the illiterate poor and the government “workers” who love the handouts and will never vote for Christmas, even though they are all turkeys.
The rest of the people are just great.
this british “newspaper” is a complete joke.
Feb 14th, 2014 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they give importance to the fact that 4 lawmakers from uruguay are visiting the islets and they do not even mention all the disasters that the floods are provoking in england.
thousands of british are suffering thanks to the ineptitude of the government and the lack of investment in infrastructure, but all this pasquinade does is to celebrate that 4 sad puppets went to the islets.
weird.
Their is always more than one story,
Feb 14th, 2014 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0one paper and one opinion..
@17 I do understand your point. MercoPress is based in Montevideo which, of course, is British.
Feb 14th, 2014 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are floods in the most wonderful country in the world, England. But MercoPress is a South Atlantic News Agency. Is there a clue there? Locally-related material more important?
Tell us, O Wondrous Paul, does latam want to know about the floods in England so that it can send aid? Shall we all stand on the White Cliffs to cheer the Brazilian, Uruguayan, Bolivian, Peruvian, Paraguayan vessels sailing in with aid workers, supplies, pumps, power sources, sandbags? Guess not. Latam has more problems that it can handle trying to get its finger out of its arse. Likes it too much. Depraved deviants. Now I understand why you don't mind us saying “Up yours”. Because you've always got your fingers “up yours”.
@16 ChrisR : The chance of an air-link between Montevideo and Stanley is actually much closer to becoming reality than you think. Air Class Líneas Aéreas gained permission to start scheduled services to the Falkland Islands in 2012. All we need is a demand and a good enough plane and BAM! We got our air-link. I would love to travel to Stanley one day.
Feb 14th, 2014 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very nice visit I am sure, but if Argentina wants Uruguays politcal opinion,
Feb 14th, 2014 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THEY WILL TELL THEM IT!
17 paulcedron
Feb 14th, 2014 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I read the “Times” every day. It has covered the floods in considerable depth for several days, devoting several pages to the issue. This Falklands and Uruguay story has yet to get a single column.
Mercopress is after all a South Atlantic news agency.
There are issues surrunding dedging on the Somerset levels otherwise you can hardly blame the government for the heaviest January rain fall for 250 years.
@17 typical troll deviation. What the hell has a visit of an Uruguayan politician to the Falkland Islands got to do with the floods on the Thames or the Somerset levels?
Feb 14th, 2014 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 017 paulcedron
Feb 14th, 2014 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WOW!!! When you pick a lost cause, you really commit to it don't you??
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Feb 14th, 2014 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The idea that floods and the Falklands have something in common stems from the fact that some severe flooding affected northern baires on April 2nd last year.
Uruguay is afraid of Argentine, the actions of four people won't change that.
Feb 14th, 2014 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Must be terrible to know your a nation of cowards.
@17 I deliberately chose The Guardian over other UK newspapers as it has been most cited by Malvinistas on this forum as it has a strong left wing/ anti establishment bias.
Feb 14th, 2014 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Go figure!
“The delegation had various objectives, but the first was an exchange of understanding between the two countries, something which was more difficult to do from a distance”
Feb 14th, 2014 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The two countries, that says it all!
It seems that delegation of law makersfrom Uruguay have blown up a dust storm of common sense and decency and have given us a glimpse of the future for the falkland Islands. Well done chaps!
the worst thing is all they have to combat floods are...sandbags.
Feb 15th, 2014 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0you, islanders, should be embarrassed of receiving the money and revenues of the honest british taxpayer.
Pauline, do try taking a flying fook at yourself. Your posts are rubbish
Feb 15th, 2014 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0#29 - at least we still have an economy
Feb 15th, 2014 - 04:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0This visit has been very productive and optimistic for future relations between the Falkland Islands and Uruguay.
Feb 15th, 2014 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0So much so that I would not be surprised to hear that the Uruguayans consider re-opening a consulate in Stanley, as well as the air links to Montevideo.
I suspect that the cue for such actions will not just be the change in power in Buenos Aires, but also the desire of ordinary Uruguayans to seek prosperity and jobs out of the business that can be done with the Islands. I was surprised to hear that so little trade comes from Uruguay, but this is probably because the current Uruguayan Government are nothing but puppets paying lip service to TMBOA and her cronies and not wanting to upset the Mercosur wagon, they go along with her mad rants.
I now look forward to the Chilean and Brazilian delegations coming to the Islands, to see how more trade can be opened with Chile & Brazil.
There's a great deal of money to be made from trading with the Falkland Islanders and from the looks of it, as Argentina crumbles, Uruguay, Chile and Brazil will need to pick up as much trade as they can when Argentina becomes as bad as Ethiopia or Somalia was during the famines.
These Uruguayan politicians will go back to Montevideo and tell their parties that they can get jobs for Uruguayans by trading with the Islanders and jobs means votes at the ballot box.
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Feb 15th, 2014 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0how many jobs can they get in the islets?
2?
3 in the best of the cases?
that does not mean too much votes, i'm afraid.
@33 Paul
Feb 15th, 2014 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“how many jobs can they get in the islets?”
More than they can get in Argentina.
The Uruguayans have their eyes on the bigger prize. When oil production really gets going, billions of dollars of materials are going to be imported into the Islands and they want this to be through Montevideo.
Feb 16th, 2014 - 12:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's not just the imports, but all the support materials too. The oil exploration workers are going to want to take some time off and relax. The Uruguayans can supply all that and receive millions of dollars of business in the process.
Then there's the air travel. It makes sense for all the oil workers to catch a plane in either Chile or Montevideo to reach the Islands, before they are ferried out to the rigs. That means dozens of full flights, which means the Uruguayans can lease brand new aircraft. What space is not used for passengers will be carrying freight. The Falkland Islands are going to need masses of food, , not to mention all the consumer goods that Islanders will be able to afford.
You should see Stanley now. There are masses of new buildings going up near Sapper Hill. They've constructed cheap temporary lodgings using trailers for the moment, but when the oil exploration gets under way in earnest, there will be a heavy demand for proper houses as the island's population grows from 3,000 to 6,000, then 9,000, then 20,000. Most will be temporary workers on short term contracts, but I can see Stanley becoming 3 or 4 times as large as it is at present in less than 5 years.
The Uruguayans are making the moves now to make sure that they are able to get the trade, supplying all the raw materials the Islanders need. They're smart. Argentina is a doomed country right now. Better to ditch the stupid embargoes and ensure that Uruguayans participate in the Falkland Islands prosperity.
29Paul- Please tell me where is this money and revenue you say we Islanders receive from the British Taxpayer?
Feb 16th, 2014 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Examples please?
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Feb 16th, 2014 - 02:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0pete.
yes? and why we have +/- 250.000 uruguayans living here while you have none?
http://historico.elpais.com.uy/08/10/29/pnacio_378440.asp
@29 You think? Silly me. Of course you don't. Where was I? Oh, I know.
Feb 16th, 2014 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2014/02/13/uruguay-has-an-important-role-to-play-in-promoting-better-relations-say-visiting-delegates-to-falkland-islands#comments
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/02/13/uruguay-has-an-important-role-to-play-in-promoting-better-relations-say-visiting-delegates-to-falkland-islands#comments
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/02/13/uruguay-has-an-important-role-to-play-in-promoting-better-relations-say-visiting-delegates-to-falkland-islands#comments
Think you could have done with some sandbags?
@33 Surely, one each is all they need. Argies could also apply. Always openings in minefield clearance.
@37 How can you have “+/- 250,000”? Explain how you get “- 250,000 uruguayans”. Is that the ones you've killed off for “practice”?
Paul at 37 - still waiting for you to answer the question I asked at 36? Having difficulty are you?
Feb 16th, 2014 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@29
Feb 16th, 2014 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly - you haven't answered the question.
What money or revenue does the Islanders receive from the UK?
What money or revenue does the Islanders receive from the UK?
Feb 16th, 2014 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Paul knows that it is nil, but the Argentine propaganda machine say's yes.
It's another of those lies that Argentina pumps out, along with the one that says the Islanders are 'implanted'. All designed to try and discredit the Islanders and transparently false.
Feb 16th, 2014 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Next thing he'll claim is that the British tax payers pay for the armed forces guarding the Islands. The truth is that those forces would be paid for by the UK tax payer whether they were in the Falklands or stationed in the UK, or Afghanistan for that matter.
The people of Britain willingly pay for our armed forces, considered the best in the world, because they defend the basic human right of Self-Determination for British citizens. The Falkland Islanders as British citizens have every right to be defended against any hostile nation. So do all the citizens of Chile, St Helena, Uruguay, Australians, New Zealanders and the United States, who reside in the Falkland Islands.
If the Argentines were not so intent on their colonial conquest of the Falkland Islands, then I doubt that the British forces contingent would be bigger than the Royal Marine detachment that was stationed there up until 1982. It's only the aggression from Buenos Aires that requires us to protect the Falkland Islanders inalienable rights to democracy and to decide their own way of life as a British Overseas Territory.
@35 Nigelpwsmith
Feb 16th, 2014 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It's not just the imports, but all the support materials too. The oil exploration workers are going to want to take some time off and relax. The Uruguayans can supply all that and receive millions of dollars of business in the process.
Then there's the air travel. It makes sense for all the oil workers to catch a plane in either Chile or Montevideo to reach the Islands, before they are ferried out to the rigs. That means dozens of full flights, which means the Uruguayans can lease brand new aircraft. What space is not used for passengers will be carrying freight. The Falkland Islands are going to need masses of food, , not to mention all the consumer goods that Islanders will be able to afford.”
And all this could come Argentina's way
@37 Paul
“yes? and why we have +/- 250.000 uruguayans living here ”
????? Is that 250 000 or have you chucked 250 ooo off helicopters into the River Plate?
What;s the average income of those Uruguayans, and do they get paid in Pesos or $?
@ 43 Pete Bog
Feb 16th, 2014 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That’s why the Argentines with brains are coming to Uruguay and asking for residency, the largest group by far doing so.
Quite why any Uruguayo lives in The Dark Country escapes me, except for the guy (apparently because we never met him) who we purchased our house from. He had married a very rich Argentine woman some time before and was living with her in BsAs. We have now heard they have broken up and he has come back, but we have his lovely house. OH, the irony of it!
Ha, ha, ha.
Paul- still waiting to hear what is this money we get from UK?
Feb 16th, 2014 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@29 paulcedron
Feb 16th, 2014 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come on - you said that the Islanders received money and revenues from the British tax payers - answer the question in posts 36, 39 and 45.
What money from UK?
What revenue from tax payers?
While Paul's trying to make up something to prove we receive money from the UK I thought this might be a good time to predict that either tomorrow or Tuesday the Uruguayan Government will make an official statement that it fully supports Argentina's stance on the Falklands despite the elected Members' visit of the islands last week. While they're making this official statement plans as discussed last week in the shed are moving along bit by bit.
Feb 16th, 2014 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I suspect that Rosie may have to take that sign down in her shed, because the Uruguayans might need it!
Feb 17th, 2014 - 01:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Paul- You know you really should not make silly accusations and statements that you cannot provide evidence for.
Feb 17th, 2014 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0You sound a bit like Christina Kirschener and her Foreign Minister! They spit out fantasy every day.
It would be great if the tradition of linking Montevideo and Stanley established by RMS Fitzroy and continued by RMS Darwin were to be continued by air.
Feb 17th, 2014 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Paul?
Feb 21st, 2014 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Come on Paul, we're still waiting for you to tell us what money the British Government gives the Islanders.
Feb 21st, 2014 - 07:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Little tip...
It's difficult to back up your claims if they are lies. So it's better if you don't make unsupportable statements.
If only Argentina would take note and stop their unsupportable claims on the Islands.
Paul-Britain gives more money to Argentina than it does to the Falkland Islands-in my opinion, even though they do not need charity, Britain should give that money instead d towards the cost of a deep water port in the Falklands.
Feb 21st, 2014 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However, please tell us what money the UK gives to the Falklands, bearing in mindf the Falkland Islands give more jobs to Brits than the other way around.
Paul has left the building!
Feb 21st, 2014 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Alert the RIC. Paul is on his way over in a rowing boat, with the money to buy you out by purchasing a scanner..........
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