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Gibraltar moved from Group to avoid playing Spain at qualifier for UEFA EURO 2016
Gibraltar will play against the might of Germany, Scotland, Poland, the Republic of Ireland and Georgia in Group D of the qualifying rounds in the Euro 2016 football championships. Gibraltar’s first match is a home-fixture on 7 September against Poland. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesScotland may even manage a win in this group !
Feb 25th, 2014 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aye, against georgia maybe! ;-)
Feb 25th, 2014 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spain scared of Gibraltar, of course!
Feb 25th, 2014 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hilarious. The Spanish are nothing but cowards. They feared losing to Gibraltar, or more pointedly - losing face to Gibraltar, by having to play in Gibraltar.
Feb 25th, 2014 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Suspect the Guardia Civil would still delay them at the border.
Lol Its so funny Gibraltar raised to the stature of a very scary opponent! Azerbaijan and Armenia are the other opponents who can't play each other (They fought an unresolved war). I think Spain makes itself look stupid to have behaved in this way worried about a military exchange with Gibraltar if the teams clashed? The elephant scared of the mouse comes to mind!
Feb 25th, 2014 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“tough fixtures against Republic of Ireland, Georgia and Poland.”
Feb 25th, 2014 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0sure...very tough.
“Gibraltar is the smallest nation in UEFA’s 54-member family”
gibraltar is not a nation. It´s a colony
@6
Feb 25th, 2014 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Only in your head Paul, how is the Argentine economy doing? Coop first then default or default then coop, I can't decide, but we will all find out very soon and I can't wait :-)
@Paul
Feb 25th, 2014 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They can call themselves whatever they want - that's self-determination for you!
The Faroes and Liechtenstein have both nicked points in recent years, whereas Andorra and San marino haven't done much so i wish Gibraltar well.
@6 the fact that spain is still competing in this tournament complements gibraltars right as a nation, surely if spain truly rejects gibraltars right as a nation they would refuse to take part, nice to see spain has finally recognized gibraltars right to self-determination along with all the other nations taking part.
Feb 25th, 2014 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0well done gibraltar, its not the winning but its certainly about the taking part would you agree paucondom?
Spains treatment of Gibraltar kids team- not nice....
Feb 25th, 2014 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2011/07/30/outrage-as-scandalous-incident-sees-kids-football-team-abused-at-tournament/
this is nothing but political interference and a disgrace,
Feb 25th, 2014 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what happens if both just bloody managed to reach the final,
will they have one team in Spain , and the other in , say , France Germany or Italy playing against the clock,
football is a sport and should remain that way, and if these two were drawed together, then tough,
both should play where told,,, and if one refused, then that team should be disqualified,
this change may now ruin foot ball, as other teams in the future who are betted against someone they don't get on with will now get it changed????????
leave politics out of the game, before the game collapses..
“football is a sport and should remain that way, and if these two were drawed together, then tough,”
Feb 25th, 2014 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0agree
“what happens if both just bloody managed to reach the final,”
is more likely that cows fly, that gibraltar reach the final
@6:
Feb 25th, 2014 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A colony is a territory governed from abroad against the wishes of the majority of its permanent residents. Therefore, Gibraltar, in contrast to Catalonia, is NOT a colony.
@12
Feb 25th, 2014 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The term is “when pigs fly”, For example: The Falklands will become Argentine when -
hell freezes over.
On a cold day in hell.
Not in a month of Sundays.
When it snows in summer.
When the sun will rise in the west.
When Easter falls in May
or
When pigs fly.
Or when Britain gives up it's Empire....
Feb 25th, 2014 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Surprising that Ireland agreed to play a game with them. Another country pestered by highly mobile flag waving campers.
Feb 26th, 2014 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Since Spain are the ones with a problem here, it should have been them that were moved to group D and Gibraltar kept in the original group they were drawn in.
Feb 26th, 2014 - 06:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Paulcedron
Feb 26th, 2014 - 07:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0“gibraltar is not a nation. It´s a colony”
Look up the definition of NATION numbnuts. That's the SECOND time you have shown your lack of education regarding this word. Are you incapable of learning?
Still boring A_Voice
“Or when Britain gives up it's Empire....”
“it's”....perhaps you meant ITS...
Empire
ˈɛmpʌɪə
'an extensive group of states or countries ruled over by a single monarch, an oligarchy, or a sovereign state'
Another numbnuts. Please provide a list of the states and or countries currently ruled over by the monarch of the United Kingdom.
Or perhaps (as usual) you were wrong and Britain gave up its empire already.
Which is it?
@15 A_Voice,
Feb 26th, 2014 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0We gave up the old one, l think its time that we won another(with or without Scotland, lol)
Argentina will do nicely just for starters.
Well, if you can't look after your land, then its better that someone who knows how to manage it takes over…,…wouldn't you agree?
@5 Grimbler
Feb 26th, 2014 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0To be fair, I think Gibraltar does have the only unbeaten record in UEFA recognised friendlies (played 1, drawn 1).
@ 15 A_Voice / Lunatic
Feb 26th, 2014 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0You just can’t help show your true colours can you Lunatic?
@1 No, doubt it. Scotland would be pressed to get a “win” against 8 grannies in wheelchairs and no goalkeeper!
Feb 26th, 2014 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@3 Of course!!! All latinos are chicken-livered. Apologies to chickens, it's just a phrase!
@14 There is another possibility. When the Falkland Islands BUYS argieland. The Falkland Islands argieland colony!
@15 From a Scottish “empire” wannabe. I'm asking my MP to ensure that viewing galleries are built along the border. We can watch the “poor people” starving or neighing as they eat their oats. We can lay bets on which ones will successfully cross the minefields and scale the razor wire fences. Only to be sent back.
@18 Did think about making a similar comment. But most argies work from a comic strip issued by the “government”. You are, of course, quite right. But let's look at argies. Mongrels, for a start. Rebel “colony”. Though there are occasional “disagreements”, argieland even steals from its so-called “mother” countries. What do you call something that doesn't have a “mother”? Even if it did have a “mother” it could, indisputedly, be referred to as a “motherfucker”.
16 Vestige
Feb 26th, 2014 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And what do you know about Ireland - zilch
Quote from Martin O'Neill (Ireland's Manager) in the Irish Independent
“It's going to be very exciting for Gibraltar - I have been there a couple of times on holiday but I have never watched any football there, that's for sure. We will be looking forward to that one.”
Thank you for your 98.5% irrelevant quote.
Feb 26th, 2014 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Heres one from Descartes ....
and here's one for you from James Joyce
Feb 26th, 2014 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“If it thinks like a donkey, smells like a donkey and brays like a donkey then it's probably a donkey” or at least a vestige of one.
#22/1
Feb 26th, 2014 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think you are being a bit unfair here . I am sure they could win against the team you propose...even with me playing.
Realistically, Scotland SHOULD win against Gibraltar as for the other teams, doubtful. Anyway I have no interest one way or the other.
However,I would place a substantial bet on England NOT winning the title.
I can remember at one of the World cups where some Scottish spectators appeared in T-shirts with the logo “we know we are shite ”
The English supporters found out their team was also, as they got unceremoniously dumped out the tournament a few games later.
#22/15
Would your carers allow you out ? It would be too dangerous for a pussy like you to be anywhere near the border.
At this very moment at a secret base near Mull, a squadron of attack white tailed eagles are being trained to carry the war over the border. Their ordnance is haggis which have passed their sell by date. These are lethal to softies like you.
They will make high level attacks on viewing platforms dropping their haggis which has the same penetration force of a bunker busting bomb...the USAF have already expressed an interest in this. They are cheaper than drones, more stealthy and cannot be shot down as they are protected species on BOTH sides of the border. So scaredy cat, stay WELL away or they will get YOU.
If it posts like a halfwit and quotes like a halfwit its probably Darragh.
Feb 26th, 2014 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 018
Feb 26th, 2014 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0angloimbecile
when you are comparing a nation and a colony in political and legal terms, a nation is the political subject where resides the constituent state sovereignty.
a colony is a territory under the management and administration of a remote country.
they are opposites.
got it, you halfwit?
Paulcedron
Feb 26th, 2014 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is funny that you changed the Latino part of my portmanteau to imbecile and not the Anglo part. LOL. A Freudian slip of the greatest degree.
Reread my comment numbnuts. I didn't argue about your use of the term colony.
So that makes you a halfwit. Not me. So thanks for advertising it to everyone on here.
I was talking about the definition of NATION numbnuts.
nation
ˈneɪʃ(ə)n/
noun
a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular state or territory.
The definition you gave was for NATION-STATE.
You didn't just show your lack of education, you proved it.
Gibraltar is a NATION but not a NATION-STATE.
Falkland Islands is a NATION but not a NATION-STATE.
29
Feb 27th, 2014 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0“a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular state or territory.”
that is the sociological definition of nation.
now when you compare nation and colony, you are talking about the political- legal definition of those terms.
do you understand it now, you imbecile?
read a book once in a while
“that is the sociological definition of nation”
Feb 27th, 2014 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0That is the ONLY definition of a nation. Why, what is the political-legal definition? Sure you aren't confusing them with State?
“now when you compare nation and colony”
I'm not comparing anything. And neither were you in post 6.
You clearly stated that “Gibraltar is not a nation”.
You seem to be under the deluded belief that nation and colony are mutually exclusive. They aren't!
A nation can be a colony.
A colony can be a nation.
A nation can be a state.
A state can be a nation.
A nation can exist across multiple states.
Multiple nations can exist within a state.
If you want to say that Gibraltar is a colony, then I won't argue with you. Though I think you are wrong.
But you are wrong to say that Gibraltar is not a nation.
Seems I have read plenty of books. And a lot of those were during my time studying Political Science during my last degree. You should try it sometime.
Then you wouldn't look like a complete idiot that keeps arguing himself into a corner.
#30 - Wrong, as usual. And the only reason that Gibraltar is not a “nation state” is due to the UK's bending over to be “nice to Spain”.
Feb 27th, 2014 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You know, as well as I do, that the “return” clause in the Utrecht Treaty is irrelevant nowadays as it is counter to the UN Charter. So if the UK and Gibraltar separated, independence would be the end result.
The “decolonisation” of Gibraltar is a matter for the UK and Gibraltar alone. It has nothing to do whatsoever with, and does not involve, Spain. Not in any way, shape or form.
Our chosen system of government is also none of Spain's business. Nor yours.
31
Feb 27th, 2014 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0not a surprise you post all that bullshit when your only sources of information are wikipedia and this 4th class newspaper.
try with a book once in a while, you asshole.
for instance, Latin America Between Colony and Nation, by John Lynch.
there you will have a good definition for the concepts of colony and nation.
guess you will not be able to understand it, but try anyway.
#33
Feb 27th, 2014 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Latin America Between Colony and Nation, by John Lynch.
Sorry, never heard of it. However, in your estimation, this book is the definitive work on this subject. No other definition may be tolerated and YOU are the arbiter on this subject. Your modesty does you credit !
“However, in your estimation, this book is the definitive work on this subject.”
Feb 27th, 2014 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0no. it is just an example.
there are many others, but the other titles i know are in spanish, and he can barely read english
#35
Feb 28th, 2014 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly...in Spanish. No biase here ?
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