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Malvinas opportunities and links for Uruguay, but mostly unknown to current generations
Lawmaker Jaime Trobo came out strongly is support of close links between the Falkland Islands and Uruguay in a column which he published in Mercopress underlining the ”interesting lesson of discovering a reality mostly unknown for Uruguayans despite the (Islands) geographic, cultural and historic proximity to Uruguay”. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesBut they are as close a(s) Sao Paulo, Santiago, Asuncion, La Paz, and much closer than Lima, Bogotá, Caracas, Quito, Rio do Janeiro, Brasilia, Havana o(r) any other capital city of our first circle of interest”.
Mar 06th, 2014 - 06:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0No mention of BA ... obviously not in their 'first circle of interest ''
Okay you sad Malvinistas and Trolls, let the character assignation of Jaime Trobo begin.
Mar 06th, 2014 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0There are two links with Montevideo that I truly hope to see in the near future. One within a year or two but the other will take longer. The air link is the first obvious thing we need to get in place.
It’s only “No money Pepe”, his harridan wife and the rest of the bastard Tupamaros who are in awe of the argies.
Mar 06th, 2014 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0ALL the people I have spoken with are either ambivalent or detest them. Not surprising given that most who visit Uruguay really are argies, the arrogant bastards.
I also know two Argentines who live here, one for 15 years and the other for 5 years having spent 17 years in Spain and both are good people as is my next door neighbour and his family.
The real problem is that Uruguay does not make anything that the people of the Falklands would probably be interested in buying due to the shoddy workmanship. Agricultural interchange perhaps but not much else.
The young women are very attractive though and would bring a new set of DNA into the Falklands but as to the weather after Uruguay, brrr!
Jeez! Did lazy MercoPress just feed Jaime's words through Google Translate and then nip out to the nearest bar?
Mar 06th, 2014 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Shoddy piece of journalism.
After a couple of aspirin I can divulge that this guy is actually talking sense, which is nice to see.
@2 - Any minute now... I wonder what Think we bring up to discredit Trobo's opinion. I bet it has something to do with his trip and FIG's invitation.... funny how every supporter of the Falkland Islanders has some kind of duplicitous interest, while every Argentine supporter in an angel sent from heaven with only the interests on human kind at heart (while suppressing the islanders birthright and human rights).
Mar 06th, 2014 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0The final paragraph included the line:
Mar 06th, 2014 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“...think that with an intelligent analysis...”
“THINK” and “Intelligent Analysis” seem such an unlikely couple.
How many of the Trolls on here have actually visited the Falklands?
@5
Mar 06th, 2014 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina's government suppresses the Falklands, but your government (London), and the rest of the world suppress Argentina.
And you stay quiet. So the duplicity accusation is warranted. As for the rest, I have no problems with the Falklands building relations with anyone else in the world. Just as long as there are no negotiations between you and us over Fishing, exploration, culture, or anything else, you should and can (de facto) do as you wish.
Of course I also am against Argentina's sickly claim, but that's just me.
@6
Why would any Argentine go to the Falklands? There are no relations between the two countries or the two peoples, and I hope it remains so. If you take that out, then what for? There are bigger English speaking towns in Argentina ITSELF, might as well visit them and not need a passport.
Yeah, cause Uruguay has great need for dealings with some barely settled islands ~2000 km away.
Mar 06th, 2014 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And little need for good Mercosur/Argentinian relations.
@7 - How is the world surpressing Argentina? I thought the world supported Argentina? And I won't stay quiet, Argentine hypocrisy and irrationality is outrageous and needs to be highlghted.
Mar 06th, 2014 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@8 If Argentina wasn't so irrational they could have both.
Mar 06th, 2014 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A_neuTroll_Observer says,
Mar 06th, 2014 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But your government (London), and the rest of the world suppress Argentina.
Do you really believe that if so your a nutter
@9
Mar 06th, 2014 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well the government has to speak that line, but we all know the reality and the reality is most in the world are anti-Argentines.
And where did I tell you to stay quiet? I just told you that you can have good relations with all the nations in the world but one.
@10
Argentina has nothing to discuss with the Islanders (or Mercosur) that is of our interest in discussing. We have all that we need from both: good trading terms, and we control all waters and fishing outside the Falklands Economic Zone.
Nothing thus to negotiate.
@11
London has had ambitions on Argentina for 200 years.
And how about the EU ADMITTING they are trying to BUY THE UKRAINE to join the west? 11 billion bribe in fact? And I thought you said the West was not imperialist.
And how much did Russia offer????
Mar 06th, 2014 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 011.5 billion. Both of you are a bunch of debauched, reprobate imperialists bent on expansionism at any cost.
Mar 06th, 2014 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Except in this one case, Russia is right, because the crimeans want to be Russian and they will be voting on it in 10 days.
Will the UK respect the vote?? Just like the Falklands? HMMM???
@14 We'd respect the vote if everyone didn't already know it's going to be rigged, just as it was in Russia itself.
Mar 06th, 2014 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@15
Mar 06th, 2014 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOL, you never accept anything that's non-British as “genuine”. Only what the British do is not “rigged”.
What a pathetic, small, and ridiculous world-view. You are getting what's coming to you.
Almost all petrol in Europe is Russian. I do hope they embargo you. Within 72 hours you and the rest of the Euros would be on your knees begging for mercy.
And on your knees is where you belong!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey everyone, look over there, no over there. what about the Ukraine, over there. looooook. lets not talk about Uruguay ;) got to love “think” trolling at its best/worst (why all the sock-puppeting A_neutroll_observer?“think”?).
Mar 06th, 2014 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for the news story, good on Mr Jaime Trobo!.
@16 No Tobes, I just know the difference between democracy and sham democracy. False news reports by state media, banning independent media, groups of paid pro-government thugs, ballot boxes pre-stuffed with votes before the count even begins... These things are proven standard practice in Russia (and other certain corrupt cesspits we know and don't love) ;)
Mar 06th, 2014 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for “pathetic, small and ridiculous” world view - have you even left the confines of Mendoza yet haha?
Why would I, we are drinking wine like crazy and there are events everywhere in town, Mendoza is the center of the Universe this weekend, world's largest wine celebration!
Mar 06th, 2014 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why go to such sad gray places, like everywhere else?
@ 2 Joe Bloggs
Mar 06th, 2014 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ There are two links with Montevideo that I truly hope to see in the near future. One within a year or two but the other will take longer. The air link is the first obvious thing we need to get in place. ”
Last month's LAN inflight magazine shows ( down the back where they show the coys routes) TAM as flying Sao Paulo / Mt Pleasant... interesting.....
Well done Trobo. I'll be voting for you again.
Mar 06th, 2014 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With quiet friendly support from Chile and now this from Uraguay RGland is beginning to look surrounded. Lol! LAN is a great airline, those Dreamliners make even Economy a luxury experience. Excellent food too. Bring it on.
Mar 06th, 2014 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@22
Mar 06th, 2014 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“surrounded”
So you don't deny the UK, Chile, and Uruguay want harm to Argentina, and are enemies that we should never befriend.
Thank you for your honesty.
Toby, you shouldn't put words in people's mouths, its childish. If your country wasnt so aggressive towards other nations that would make sense. Have you been getting treatment?
Mar 06th, 2014 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder what medication A_neuTroll_Observer is on? Or does he use “wacky baccy”? His isolationist meanderings sometimes don't make sense but other times they are just contradictory! Does he realise?
Mar 06th, 2014 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is happening is that Kirchner is coming to an end of her sorry and destructive reign, its going to be very messy indeed and Argentina will be in the shit for years to come as a result.
Mar 06th, 2014 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A small country like Uruguay with convenient ports both air and sea are likely to be highly desirable assets to the Falklands oil industry, this has without doubt not gone unnoticed in Uruguay's opposition. As Argentina steams to ahead to economic catastrophe, Uruguay will be looking out to sea more and more.
23 A_neuTroll_Observer
Mar 06th, 2014 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“So you don't deny the UK, Chile, and Uruguay want harm to Argentina, and are enemies that we should never befriend”
Oh Tobi, Tobi, tobi............. The question you should be asking yourself is:-
Which one of these countries has argentina not tried to steal land from?
Trolo @ 22
Mar 07th, 2014 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0If the UK wanted to kick the shit out of you, they'd have done so in 1982. If the Chileans did, they'd have helped. The Uruguayans would have stood by, laughing.
@28
Mar 07th, 2014 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Then why should Argentina treat any of you with any ounce of friendship when you laid out in luculent fashion your views on us as they are?
You can forget friendly relations you burned that bridge with my generations. You have decades to come of what you have seen the last 15 years in foreign policy.
Trolo @ 29
Mar 07th, 2014 - 06:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0You don't treat any of us with an ounce of friedship and we don't expect you to. You've been bullying Uruguay for well over 100 years. You've tried to bully Chile too, but they've got the geography and armed forces to keep you out. And as for the UK, you were pro-Nazi during WW2 and sneakily attacked the Falklands in 1982.
Friendly relations have long hence been forgotten - by Argentina.
You, Trolo, are just the continuation of the traditional Argentine mentality. Nothing new.
(For readers who may be wondering, Trolo is Spanish slang for a male or female prostitute.)
@29
Mar 07th, 2014 - 09:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0A little projection there me thinks. You are like one of those people that job hops because he can't get on with his work mates and then says that it is everyone else that is the problem. Take a look inside, can you really not think of any reasons why other contries may have a problem with Argentina.
Mendoza is the center of the Universe this weekend.
Mar 07th, 2014 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No need to be so modest....surely it is , always for those who have never been anywhere else
London has had ambitions on Argentina for 200 years.
Your paranoia is surfacing again. Tell us what specifically the UK has done to Argentina in the last 10 years to prove that statement. Verifiable facts please not YOUR opinion.
As for your biased opinions on Crimea, study a bit more about it before you start your posturing ignorant rubbish.
@30
Mar 07th, 2014 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You don't deserve friendly relations.
@31
And neither do you.
@32
Let's see... continuing their imperialist expansion in Antarctica for starters. Not making ONE single attempt to talk to Argentina (when was the last time a UK official agreed to talk with Argentina on something we were interested in, aside the non-starter Falkland sovereignty). Not once.
You undermines behind the scenes at all meetings and forums, recently you have attacked us publicly at G20 and other summits.
The UK and its people are our enemy and I will treat them as much when confronted with them. Since last month my hatred of you and Europe has risen 459%.
#32
Mar 07th, 2014 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whereas Argentina's expansion and quasi imperialistic utterances over the Antarctic continent and the surrounding seas and islands are not ?
We refute the blatant lies coming from your government about militarising the S.Atlantic.
We have attacked you? ....in what way ? By requesting that you stick to agreements made.
The UK is not Argentina's enemy. Yours possibly, but we are sympathetic towards the mentally afflicted. If we had been your real enemy, we could have totally stuffed you after the Falklands victory and you probably would not have been alive to carp and whine.
It seems that there are plenty of Argentineans in London who disagree with you.
Keep up the hate campaign, it's all you have left to make you feel important.
Everybody is out of step but YOU....self righteous numpty.
It's about time you grew up and acted like a rational adult instead of a spotty teenager.
The UK has no capability of attacking the entirety of Argentina, much less invading. Too much territory to cover and bomb. Don't feel yourself so important.
Mar 07th, 2014 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Enemies are those that claim they are not. Follow that philosophy and you will be safe...
@12 et al. Still funny, I see. If most of the world is anti-argie, whose fault is that? Maybe it has something to do with how argieland acts? Genocide, trespass, attempted theft, mendacity, invasion, occupation, war, fraud, debt evasion, more mendacity.
Mar 07th, 2014 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Crimea? Will there be lots of international observers? Not one from the Russian “sphere”?
Almost all the petrol in Europe is Russian, is it? Wonder what we're paying the Middle East and North Africa for? Not to worry, we'll move up and take Scotland's. Salmond reckons he's got plenty. But we'll have pumped it all out in a couple of years.
Now I begin to understand. You're as pissed as a newt.
Yep. Surrounded. But you want to be isolated. You've said so frequently. We're only doing what you want. We just want to watch you die. First there'll be starvation. Then you'll turn on each other.
Ah yes. Antarctica. An area that Britain quite legally claimed in 1908. Since it had mounted innumerable expeditions and saw great opportunities for scientific research. An area that argieland had to be GIVEN its first base in. By the British. And then, thinking that Britain would lose WW2, argieland waited until 1942 to make a claim. What a shame for you that we won, eh? So, if I understand you correctly, it's okay for you to skulk around in the undergrowth, creeping up behind and stabbing us in the back. But when we respond that is somehow wrong. Let's make something clear to you. What happened in 1806/7 had nothing to do with you. Even in 1982, you attacked us. But if we really want to, we can take you out with little difficulty. We're not interested in what you call “imperialist expansion”. But we will defend what is ours. And then we can move on to remove a cancerous growth. Cutting it out and burning it to ash. Then we can “disperse” the ash in up to 3 oceans. But always remember that, no matter what happens, you will have brought it on yourselves. I just hope that the few sane intelligent Argentines get out.
#35
Mar 07th, 2014 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We have no need or intention of attacking Argentina. You are of no importance or threat to us. As I said in my last post which you have deliberately IGNORED, WE could have done you serious harm but being a chivalrous race we let you depart with undeserved dignity.
You give yourself delusions of grandeur on the world stage and contribute almost nothing of use to the good of mankind.
I think staying in your self imposed exile would be the best of all scenarios...nobody would notice...or care. The sane S.American countries would breathe a sigh of relief
35
Mar 07th, 2014 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You give yourself delusions of grandeur on the world stage and contribute almost nothing of use to the good of mankind.”
well, britain contributed with modern slave trade, imperialism, conquests, wars and invasions.
you could have saved all that sh*t
36
Mar 07th, 2014 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“An area that Britain quite legally claimed in 1908.”
Actually, Conqueror, the UK did not make any territorial claims in Antarctica in 1908. The 1908 Letter Patent was to make provision for the government of territories that had been claimed in previous years. The 1917 Letter Patent did make new territorial claims as it extended the claim on the Antarctic continent from Graham Land (Antarctic Peninsula) to a sector stretching down to the South Pole.
“Uruguayan businessman Samuel Lafone helped introduce cattle to the Falklands”
Mar 08th, 2014 - 06:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wrong.
Lafone did not introduce cattle to the Falklands -instead ripped off the Falkland Islands and decimated the great wild cattle herds that developed from the cattle introduced in the 1760s-if you read history, Lafone ripped off the Falkland Islands. He promised to give meat to Stanley and didn't and paid less than he should for Lafonia.
Usefully I believe some of the South American workers he sent stayed in the Islands thus destroying the myth that the Islands are made up only of implanted British citizens.
One of the greatest early disasters was the virtual wiping out of these herds.
@37
Mar 08th, 2014 - 07:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0How can an isolationist have self-grandeur? By his very nature he acknowledges that with his country withdrawn from the whole rest of the world, the rest of the world would go on unimpeded.
That I know very well, the isolationism is for our benefit, getting rid of relationships with all your tawdry nations. To the rest of you its business as usual.
#38
Mar 08th, 2014 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0For Britain, read Spain.
Also, if Spain had not contributed the same, you would not have a country, would you ? How squeaky clean are you ???
#41
Your reply is a bit confused. By “You” I mean Argentina having delusions of grandeur. You want to be isolationist, your government does not.
It is up to you to enter politics and persuade your countrymen to your point of view.
Pete @ 40
Mar 08th, 2014 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's the first time I've heard this version of Lafone's actions in the Falklands. I wonder if you could provide me with reading material?
I have no idea whether you're right or wrong and would like to find out. The name of Samuel Lafone is still big in Uruguay.
Best wishes.
@38 paulcedron
Mar 08th, 2014 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“well, britain contributed with modern slave trade, imperialism, conquests, wars and invasions.”
So did Spain, hence you wouldn't be in South America, would you? Thicko
You sound like the revolutionaires in the Life of Brian. ”And what have the Romans (British) ever done for us?”
Well lets see, the British invented or discovered extemely important things, such as (in no particular order):
Vaccines
Antiseptics
Antibiotics
Anaesthetics
Internal combustion engine
Steam Engines and trains
Industry (the Industrial Revolution: Spinning Jenny, Spinning Mule etc)
Sanitation (all modern sewerage systems in the WORLD are based on London's)
Computers
World Wide Web
Tin cans
Corkscrews
Electric motor
Cordite
Electromagnets
Fax machines
Gas masks
Lightbulbs
Periodic table
Radar
Rubber bands
Periscopes
Submarines
Seismograph and Seismometer
Toilet paper
Modern flushing toilets
Television
Torpedos
Thermos
Waterproof fabric
Vacuum cleaner
Umbrella
Viagra
Holography
Jet engines
Ejector seats
Water desalination
Atomic clock
Postmarks
Police force
Fingerprinting
Iris recognition
DNA decoding
DNA fingerprinting
Cloning
Typewriters
Catapillar tracks
Adjustable spanners
Universal joint
High strength carbon fibre
Disc brakes
Microchips
Wind tunnels
Iron bridges
Prams
Collapsible baby buggies
Domestic dishwashers
Lawn mowers
Electric toasters
Hydraulic press
Stainless steel
Polythene
CT scanners (of which you are so fond)
Football
Rugby
Boxing
Baseball
Tennis
Polo
Hockey (ice and field)
Ping pong
Paralymics
Modern Olympics (have the roots in the UK)
VTOL engines
Seat belts
Fire engines
Traffic lights
I could go on and on and on, but you get the picture.
In fact, the world owes a lot to the British.
The Spanish invented:
Sherry
Transporter bridges
Stamped paper
Molotov cocktails
And Argentine inventions...
Er...well...er...
The Tango - and it isn't even purely Argentine.
Well there you go.
Well played! @44
Mar 08th, 2014 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ A_neuTroll_Observer,
Mar 10th, 2014 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh do be quiet, you silly, little poor excuse for a man.
Just go away,
Your self-loathing is evident, but is becoming awfully wearing.
You need a good swift kick up the backside.
@44 LEPRecon,
and,
Screw threads
bolts & nuts
lathes
milling machines
engine bearings
condensors
bitumen sealed roads
pneumatic tyres
armoured vehicles(tanks)
aircraft carriers
steam winch(to launch aircraft)
must be more but that will do for a start!
@43
Mar 10th, 2014 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I shall look through my books on Falklands history, find the pages (and hope to provide you with the bibliography details).
Hurrah for Isolde!
Mar 10th, 2014 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pete @ 43
Mar 11th, 2014 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you in advance. I'm looking forward to your news.
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