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“Encouraging signs of rejuvenation” from the UN Decolonization Committee
For the first time in many years, the UN decolonization unit held several meetings with each of the four administering powers: United Kingdom, France, New Zealand and the United States, as well as various other “stakeholders”, in order to identify next steps in the decolonization process. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“I also appreciate that all administering Powers have given the green light in principle for visiting missions where appropriate.“
Mar 12th, 2014 - 08:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0So are the C24 finally going to visit the Falklands and see what the people actually want as opposed to considering only what Argentina's friends want? Or does that ”where appropriate” caveat mean they intend continuing denying the people their rights? I guess at least Russia must now be in favour of self-determination?
Decolonization is all but complete. None of the non-self governing territories are ”colonies2, all of them are governed by the will of the people who live there.
Mar 12th, 2014 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Close the C24 and talk about something useful.
The UN states that the territories also have the option of alligning themselves with another nation, so if this has been carried out and in a democratic way, there's nothing more to discuss.
Mar 12th, 2014 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0The peoples of these territories want to retain the status quo (not the band) whereas I'm pretty sure the majority of South American tribes would like their continent back, maybe that's a more pressing issue...unless the committee is composed of hypocrites?
Patagonia is quite clearly a colony of Argentina so why isn't it on the list?
Mar 12th, 2014 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0So all they have managed to is increase the number by adding French Polynesia, I thought the idea was to decrease the number.
Mar 12th, 2014 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0..and put themselves out of a job Leiard?
Mar 12th, 2014 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Does the committee think that the EU colonising European countries is a good thing or a bad thing?
Mar 12th, 2014 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0“in order to identify next steps in the decolonization process.”
Mar 12th, 2014 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Before they do that, they must identify the true colonisers, Argentina actively and aggressively pursues colonial ambitions in the South Atlantic, and they should be exhibit A when the committee deliberates.
The next step in decolonosation is to stop this anachronistic committee from dictating to these territories which prefer the status quo and have no desire for decolonisation.
Mar 12th, 2014 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2 Apart from Western Sahara, you are correct - there is absolutely no need for any of the other territories to be on any decolonisation list.
Mar 12th, 2014 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All the UN C24 has to do is to live up to UN Resolution 2625 (xxv)
'The establishment of a sovereign and independent state, the free association or integration with an independent state or the emergence into any other political status freely determined by the people constitutes mode of implementing the right of self-determination by that people.'
The role of the UN C24 should merely be to ensure that the rights of inhabitants of overseas territories are protected and not abused by the administering powers.
Please note the will of the inhabitants of the territories concerned without 'exceptions' or 'conditions'.
Mar 12th, 2014 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The article said:
Mar 12th, 2014 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ The UN top official welcomed the intensification of the face-to-face talks among interested parties ...”
” The voice of the C-24 is again becoming loud and clear”
AGAIN ?
In Malvnas case, WHAT SIDE THE UN COMITTE SUPPORT AND WHAT THEY SAID BEFORE ?
Mr Chairman of C-24:
1) “.....the Islanders can’t appeal to the right of self determination they claim, because in the Malvinas case “there is a principle of territorial integrity” from Argentina which is above other considerations and the UK is the “occupying power” since 1833.”
2) “..“The position of England is not that of an administrative power, it is that of an occupying power.”
3) “There are two issues: self determination and territorial integrity of States. You can’t accept a form of colonization when there is a principle of territorial integrity, which is the applicable form in the Malvinas case”
http://en.mercopress.com/2012/06/16/c24-chair-calls-falklands-referendum-political-ploy-praises-argentine-president
indeed Fowler....the UN Comitee speak loud and clear.....write that please.
Jobs for the boys - the nation members of C24 are so inept that the UN management feels sorry for them and thus throws them a few “bones” to keep them on the ball.
Mar 12th, 2014 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I really do think this committee should be disbanded at the earliest opportunity as it has never achieved anything - except the emission of meaningless hot air.
apparently C24 may be abolished, so they say,
Mar 12th, 2014 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0waste of money , time , energy , and space..
Territorial integrity in 1833???
Mar 12th, 2014 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So far...you are hilarious.
The nearest part of Argentina in 1833 was 1000 miles away..
How on earth were an island group, which was never part of Argentina, and 1000 miles away...integral to Argentina??
You may as well say that when Argentina invaded in November 1832 they disrupted the UK territorial integrity.
What a laugh...it's not “integral” geographically...it's not “integral” due to population....it's NOT INTEGRAL
The UN should be abolished as well......commie infested organization that bites the hand that feeds it.
Mar 12th, 2014 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12 Yes, wouldn't it be fun if the world went back to its 1833 borders. Lol.
Mar 12th, 2014 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh before I forget, didn't Argie-land sign a peace treaty with Britain in 1850?
@12 so_far
Mar 12th, 2014 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That was the personal view of the now ex-chairman of the corrupt C24.
He failed to take that view to the C24 and as such the actual committee said no such thing!
12 Think
Mar 12th, 2014 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You rarely intrigue me and this is no exception but I do have a mild curiosity. What made you decide to use s0_far for that post? Why not Think? Why not DoD? Why not Surfer? Why not A_Voice?
12 so_far
Mar 12th, 2014 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The past Chairman has been revealed as a corrupted liar, since he is in complete contradiction of a UN resolution and international law on the issue.
You cannot apply a post 1945 UN Charter to a legal issue from 1833, as there is a bar in international law in applying law retroactively.
The Acquisition of Territory in International Law
By Robert Yewdall Jennings
(a Judge of the ICJ from 1982 and president between 1991 and 1994)
“...The rule of the intertemporal law still insists that an act must be characterized in accordance with the law in force at the time it was done, or closely on the next occasion. ...”
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Further, the UN itself bars such applications. “...It is therefore not surprising that the General Assembly declared in 1970 that the modem prohibition against the acquisition of territory by conquest should not be
construed as affecting titles to territory created 'prior to the Charter regime and valid under international law'...”
Akehursts Modern Introduction to International Law By Peter Malanczuk
“Finally the 17 Non-Self-Governing Territories look to the United Nations for comprehensive and sustained initiatives for the future and the Special Committee has begun to open a wider window of opportunities”
Mar 12th, 2014 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, you cretin - the “non-self-governing-territories” do NOT look to your pathetic committee for anything. You are useless, incompetent and infested with corrupt Latinos.
Why have none of you EVER visited any of these “territories” to find out WHAT WE THINK?
Why do you wish to “consider the claims” - no matter how spurious - of lying, cheating, whingeing neo-colonialists in this day and age?
No, Mr. Chairman - it is time for you and your committee to DO YOUR DAMN JOB FOR A CHANGE.
@21 sceptic - Bravo!
Mar 13th, 2014 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@21, The last time two times the Great Blue Father....uh... C24 asked for a NGST's opinion, Tokelau, the natives were not ahem... as “cooperative” as C24 wanted them to be. I really don't think they are going to try that again, especially in the Falklands or Gibraltar where everyone knows what you think.
Mar 13th, 2014 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That said, C24 should visit by all means and ask the locals what they really think. But we know what that would mean to the NGST's status and more importantly, the status of the C24.
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