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Thursday, March 20th 2014 - 07:02 UTC
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The Ukraine question must be settled through political negotiations and peace, President Cristina Fernández said at a press conference in Paris where she arrived this week to meet with her French counterpart Francois Hollande. Read full article

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  • La Patria

    Hi cristina, I'm sure all of the world leaders are paying attention to you. What game shall we play next?

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 07:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    Haven't we already covered this?

    Pathetic woman, showing the world how she has ZERO understanding of international law.

    I wonder how she feels, given Russia support for British sovereignty of the Falkland Islands? Betrayed perhaps? LOL

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 08:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Yes Lep, Russia is actively lobbying in the interest of the UK...

    Could you be more sorry?

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 08:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mollymauk

    Have I missed something here? Did she really say “world powers have shown themselves in favor of the islands' referendum”?
    I thought she was always saying that no-one but the Falklands and the UK accepted the referendum. Maybe she secretly knows the truth, that most countries take no notice of her ramblings.

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 08:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Bahahahahaha

    She did indeed!

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    How can the Falkland Islands be part of a country that didn't exist when they were settled? The clot is hard at work in that ugly head.

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    She is just a dipstick with lipstick.

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    The British position refutes her daft claim to territorial integrity anyway and I never understand why this isn't always asserted too.

    The world should ask her to walk there.

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    I quote the UN Secretary General Ban-Ki-Moon on Wednesday May 19th 2010 when speaking at a forum on de-colonization in Noumea, New Caledonia -

    “The world’s 16 remaining territories that still do not govern themselves must have complete freedom in deciding their future status”

    He didn’t say “with the exception of the people of the Falkland Islands’

    http://www.speroforum.com/a/33140/Remaining-nonselfgoverning-territories-must-have-full-freedom-of-choice-Ban-says

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    There's a fairly simple explantion. Depending on whether you have two brain cells to rub together. Something few argies have.

    There is NO legitimate basis for considering the Falkland Islands part of argie territory. AT ANY TIME. EVER!! Therefore, the “territorial integrity” of argieland has no bearing.

    The Crimea has been part of Ukraine for 60 years. The Soviet Union handed it over. If Russia wanted it back, or had concerns, the appropriate action was to approach the government of Ukraine and agree a peaceful method of determining the wishes of the people of the Ukraine. Instead, Russia mobilised and deployed 100,000 troops and invaded.

    But then argies like CFK discard anything that doesn't suit their agenda. I'm sure that argie muppets and fellow travellers will be on to explain everything soon!

    Then we can all have a laugh!

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • M_of_FI

    The way she talks about the Falklands and Territorial Integrity, it makes you think that the Falklands are not actual islands, but share a land border with mainland Argentina.

    The Falkland ISLANDS are 400 miles off the coast of Argentina. This no way affects Argentina's territorial integrity. There is nothing to suggest that it does. She really is clutching at straws here.

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Lol @7 Isolde

    Thank you for that little gem. Beautifully put!

    :-)

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Swede

    Very strange to compare FI and Crimea. When Crimea was transferred from Russia to Ukraine both countries were member of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. It was decided by the central government of the Union (or perhaps by N.S. Khrushchev himself) as a kind of “gift” from Russia to Ukraine. As it was not made within the frameworks of the constitutions of either the Soviet Union itself or the two republics concerned. So today Russia could say that it was “illegal” and agaist the“ territorial integity” of the RFSSR. At the same time today,s actions are of course against the T.I. of Ukraine. And what about the territorial integrity of the Soviet Union? It must have been totaly massacred back in 1991. So, what really is “Territorial integrity”? But the Falklands have never been internationally recognised as part of the territory of the Argentine Republic.

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    As the Falklands have never been a part of Argentina's territory, the 'territorial integrity' argument falls at the first fence

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Benson

    Yes Christina a vote called by an invading army with no international observers is exactly the same as a vote organised by the internal that took the better part of a a year to put together with independent observers from half a dozen contries. Idiot.

    “However, world powers have showed themselves in favor of the Islands’ referendum and that has no value”
    Really, for the last year you have been harping on that no one in the international community reconised our referendum. She tells so many lies that she can't remember which ones she's told.

    “The Malvinas Islands have always belonged to Argentina”
    Always Christina, really? A three month illigal penal garrison and a 64 day invasion. Even if you accept Argentina's spurious claim this would suggest that she thinks that the history of the Falklands started in the 19th century.

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    15
    .....“A three month illigal penal garrison and a 64 day invasion.”
    ...is that what they teach in Falklands...?

    “ I have procured these papers from Mr. Vernet himself,…. I understand from him that he will have sent to Soledad, and Staten Land IN THIS YEAR, AND THE LAST, about one hundred persons altogether, of different Nations… ”

    “The number of persons altogether on the island consisted of about one hundred, including twenty-five gauchos and five charruas, Indians. There are a few Dutch families, the women of which milk the cows, and make the butter. Two or three Englishmen, a German family, and the remainder made up of Spaniards and Portuguese, pretending to follow some trade, but doing little or nothing. The gauchos are chiefly Spaniards: their captain or “the Chief of the Gauchos” is a Frenchman. .. One gauchos was worth fifteen hundred dollars, and an Irishman who had been a gaucho, and had come to the island in Don Vernet’s debt, had not only paid it off, but had been enabled to give him seven hundred and fifty dollars for a building which he had converted into a store. ”

    Looks to be slightly more than an illegal penal garrison....

    I wonder how many islanders can trace their lineage back to these original colonists from the Argentine Republic...?
    Or is their lineage only back to the implanted settlers after 1833...?
    I feel sorry for the poor Irishman after paying all his debts and opening a store.....

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Here's a new patriot of an inspirational guy that was created as a result of a nationwide vote.

    http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/mar/20/simon-weston-national-portrait-gallery

    Simon, and his fellow soldiers remind us all of the colonialist invasion of our Falkland Islands and the Argentinian defeat. Thank God for our armed forces.

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    I don't see any 'Argentines' in that list. I can see a few English though.
    WTF is an 'implanted settler' anyway?
    Lots of people here can trace their lineage back to gaucho families. and Scottish, Irish, Chilean, English etc. Do you have a point?
    In what way are Vernet's settlers any different from any other settlers?

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nololly

    Its pointless arguing with these RG dolts about what happened nearly 200 years ago. Its history. What matters is they were chucked out whimpering in 1982 and wont ever be coming back. Their 'wonderful' country is a pariah and basket case anyway, curently aligning itself with cruel dictatorships like Cuba and Venezuala.
    Meanwhile the Falkland Islanders have peace, a crime free country, prosperity and 100% English support. The ramblings of various RG supporting numbskulls on here are of noconsequence whatsoever.

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    Nice little educational film for the Trolls

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26431323

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    @18 Monty69: “In what way are Vernet's settlers any different from any other settlers?”

    The difference is there is no such thing as Vernet's settlers. He may well have had workers on the islands with the permission of the UK, but clearly he was never given the power to have the final say on who was to be a permanent resident on the islands.

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @16
    Your statement that you have procured these papers from Mr Vernet himself must be a lie, as he would be at least 201 yrs old if he was in his 20's in 1833.

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Ignore the twit, perhaps she will go away,

    still, they invited her, let them suffer the fall out and humiliation,
    p/s
    did not CFK back the UN Resolution on Russia.

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    7 lsolde

    “She is just a dipstick with lipstick.”

    Ha, ha, ha!!!! That is such a cool put down!!!

    Nuff respec!!!

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    “However, world powers have showed themselves in favor of the Islands’ referendum...” said CFK

    Up until now CFK has insisted that the world backs HER. First she forgets to mention the Falklands in a 2 hours speech on the state of the nation and now she admits that the worlds supports US.

    Chuckle chuckle

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Your quite right Joe.
    Thank you for the reminder.

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Here they are the ones you lot defend

    http://www.euronews.com/2014/03/19/ukranian-tv-boss-assaulted-and-forced-to-resign-by-far-right-svoboda-mps/

    The man with the ponytail is nobody else than Igor Mirosjnitjenko, vice chairman of the commitee of freedom of opinion.

    You bunch of Nazi lovers...

    Mar 20th, 2014 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    @10 Conqueror

    Alicia Castro, the Argentine Ambassador in London, has even gone so far as to claim that the Falklands archipelago is an “enclave” within Argentine territory. “Enclave” in both English and Spanish is described in dictionaries as a parcel of land completely surrounded by the land of another country.

    Such a statement just shows what a prize representative Argentina has in London!

    Mar 21st, 2014 - 07:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    27 Stevie

    “You bunch of Nazi lovers...”

    So, we are back in the playground now are we Stevie?

    Trying to trade the sort of insults a 6 year old would come up with in the hope of provoking someone?

    YAWN...............................................

    Poor widdle, lame boy Stevie...........ain't got nothing but his playground taunts...........

    By the way, does your mamma know that you are on the internet?

    Mar 21st, 2014 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    As long as your governments back Nazis up and you lot quietly accept, you are nothing but a bunch Nazi lovers.

    What is your comment the fact that the vice chairman f the Ukranian Committee of Freedom of Speech, imposed on the Ukranian people by USA, with most prominent faces of Victoria “F*ck the EU” Nuland and Catherine “Is that so” Ashton, is nothing but a Nazi thug?

    Mar 21st, 2014 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    Poor widdle Stevie,

    Did you bring an apple for your teacher today Stevie?

    Did you? did you?

    Have you done your homework like a good widdle boy?

    Mar 21st, 2014 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Benson

    @16

    Vernet, you mean that independent businessman that sought permission from Britain to set up a business venture on the Falklands and then left the business running under his British 2IC, that Vernet?

    “I wonder how many islanders can trace their lineage back to these original colonists from the Argentine Republic...?”
    None because the Argentine Republic didn't exist then, maybe you mean the United Provinces.

    Mar 21st, 2014 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RICO

    # 15 thanks for the list I didn't realise that absolutely none of the settlers in the early 1830s were Argentine. Thank god the Islands were liberated from the garrison there.

    The British don't support Nazis, we support the people of Ukraine, unlike Argentina who developed the network to bring Nazis like Mengele to freedom and offer them Argentine citizenship.

    Mar 21st, 2014 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @16 An underscored Voice
    “The number of persons altogether on the island consisted .....
    twenty-five gauchos and five charruas, Indian“

    There were gauchos and charruas Indians left in 1833-who accepted British rule.

    ”captain or “the Chief of the Gauchos” is a Frenchman. .. “

    Yes-he was murdered by Rivero but his descendants were still living in the Islands in the late 1870s.

    ” Irishman who ”
    Although he would no longer be British-Irish were British then.

    Looks like the Islands community then was made up of a wide range of people from Europe-but Mr Underscored Voice, how many of these (except for the Indians) were born in South America?

    Apart from the Indians, they all appear to be European implants.

    Not one of those people appears to have been born in Argentina-not surprisingly as Argentina was established in 1853.

    Mar 21st, 2014 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cheekychulo

    #33
    It is often overlooked by the peronists that both Peron and wife Evita SOLD 10,000 blank Argentinian passports to Odessa giving safe passage and a creating new identities for SS Nazi butchers.

    Yes SOLD and Argentina looks to Evita as a mother figure..... says a lot really about peronism

    Mar 22nd, 2014 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Thieves and rotten to the core, CFK is an insult to democracy..

    Mar 22nd, 2014 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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