The Ukraine question must be settled through political negotiations and peace, President Cristina Fernández said at a press conference in Paris where she arrived this week to meet with her French counterpart Francois Hollande. Read full article
Have I missed something here? Did she really say world powers have shown themselves in favor of the islands' referendum?
I thought she was always saying that no-one but the Falklands and the UK accepted the referendum. Maybe she secretly knows the truth, that most countries take no notice of her ramblings.
There's a fairly simple explantion. Depending on whether you have two brain cells to rub together. Something few argies have.
There is NO legitimate basis for considering the Falkland Islands part of argie territory. AT ANY TIME. EVER!! Therefore, the territorial integrity of argieland has no bearing.
The Crimea has been part of Ukraine for 60 years. The Soviet Union handed it over. If Russia wanted it back, or had concerns, the appropriate action was to approach the government of Ukraine and agree a peaceful method of determining the wishes of the people of the Ukraine. Instead, Russia mobilised and deployed 100,000 troops and invaded.
But then argies like CFK discard anything that doesn't suit their agenda. I'm sure that argie muppets and fellow travellers will be on to explain everything soon!
The way she talks about the Falklands and Territorial Integrity, it makes you think that the Falklands are not actual islands, but share a land border with mainland Argentina.
The Falkland ISLANDS are 400 miles off the coast of Argentina. This no way affects Argentina's territorial integrity. There is nothing to suggest that it does. She really is clutching at straws here.
Very strange to compare FI and Crimea. When Crimea was transferred from Russia to Ukraine both countries were member of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. It was decided by the central government of the Union (or perhaps by N.S. Khrushchev himself) as a kind of gift from Russia to Ukraine. As it was not made within the frameworks of the constitutions of either the Soviet Union itself or the two republics concerned. So today Russia could say that it was illegal and agaist the territorial integity of the RFSSR. At the same time today,s actions are of course against the T.I. of Ukraine. And what about the territorial integrity of the Soviet Union? It must have been totaly massacred back in 1991. So, what really is Territorial integrity? But the Falklands have never been internationally recognised as part of the territory of the Argentine Republic.
Yes Christina a vote called by an invading army with no international observers is exactly the same as a vote organised by the internal that took the better part of a a year to put together with independent observers from half a dozen contries. Idiot.
However, world powers have showed themselves in favor of the Islands’ referendum and that has no value
Really, for the last year you have been harping on that no one in the international community reconised our referendum. She tells so many lies that she can't remember which ones she's told.
The Malvinas Islands have always belonged to Argentina
Always Christina, really? A three month illigal penal garrison and a 64 day invasion. Even if you accept Argentina's spurious claim this would suggest that she thinks that the history of the Falklands started in the 19th century.
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.....A three month illigal penal garrison and a 64 day invasion.
...is that what they teach in Falklands...?
“ I have procured these papers from Mr. Vernet himself,…. I understand from him that he will have sent to Soledad, and Staten Land IN THIS YEAR, AND THE LAST, about one hundred persons altogether, of different Nations… ”
“The number of persons altogether on the island consisted of about one hundred, including twenty-five gauchos and five charruas, Indians. There are a few Dutch families, the women of which milk the cows, and make the butter. Two or three Englishmen, a German family, and the remainder made up of Spaniards and Portuguese, pretending to follow some trade, but doing little or nothing. The gauchos are chiefly Spaniards: their captain or “the Chief of the Gauchos” is a Frenchman. .. One gauchos was worth fifteen hundred dollars, and an Irishman who had been a gaucho, and had come to the island in Don Vernet’s debt, had not only paid it off, but had been enabled to give him seven hundred and fifty dollars for a building which he had converted into a store. ”
Looks to be slightly more than an illegal penal garrison....
I wonder how many islanders can trace their lineage back to these original colonists from the Argentine Republic...?
Or is their lineage only back to the implanted settlers after 1833...?
I feel sorry for the poor Irishman after paying all his debts and opening a store.....
Simon, and his fellow soldiers remind us all of the colonialist invasion of our Falkland Islands and the Argentinian defeat. Thank God for our armed forces.
I don't see any 'Argentines' in that list. I can see a few English though.
WTF is an 'implanted settler' anyway?
Lots of people here can trace their lineage back to gaucho families. and Scottish, Irish, Chilean, English etc. Do you have a point?
In what way are Vernet's settlers any different from any other settlers?
Its pointless arguing with these RG dolts about what happened nearly 200 years ago. Its history. What matters is they were chucked out whimpering in 1982 and wont ever be coming back. Their 'wonderful' country is a pariah and basket case anyway, curently aligning itself with cruel dictatorships like Cuba and Venezuala.
Meanwhile the Falkland Islanders have peace, a crime free country, prosperity and 100% English support. The ramblings of various RG supporting numbskulls on here are of noconsequence whatsoever.
@18 Monty69: In what way are Vernet's settlers any different from any other settlers?
The difference is there is no such thing as Vernet's settlers. He may well have had workers on the islands with the permission of the UK, but clearly he was never given the power to have the final say on who was to be a permanent resident on the islands.
@16
Your statement that you have procured these papers from Mr Vernet himself must be a lie, as he would be at least 201 yrs old if he was in his 20's in 1833.
“However, world powers have showed themselves in favor of the Islands’ referendum...” said CFK
Up until now CFK has insisted that the world backs HER. First she forgets to mention the Falklands in a 2 hours speech on the state of the nation and now she admits that the worlds supports US.
Alicia Castro, the Argentine Ambassador in London, has even gone so far as to claim that the Falklands archipelago is an enclave within Argentine territory. Enclave in both English and Spanish is described in dictionaries as a parcel of land completely surrounded by the land of another country.
Such a statement just shows what a prize representative Argentina has in London!
As long as your governments back Nazis up and you lot quietly accept, you are nothing but a bunch Nazi lovers.
What is your comment the fact that the vice chairman f the Ukranian Committee of Freedom of Speech, imposed on the Ukranian people by USA, with most prominent faces of Victoria F*ck the EU Nuland and Catherine Is that so Ashton, is nothing but a Nazi thug?
Vernet, you mean that independent businessman that sought permission from Britain to set up a business venture on the Falklands and then left the business running under his British 2IC, that Vernet?
I wonder how many islanders can trace their lineage back to these original colonists from the Argentine Republic...?
None because the Argentine Republic didn't exist then, maybe you mean the United Provinces.
# 15 thanks for the list I didn't realise that absolutely none of the settlers in the early 1830s were Argentine. Thank god the Islands were liberated from the garrison there.
The British don't support Nazis, we support the people of Ukraine, unlike Argentina who developed the network to bring Nazis like Mengele to freedom and offer them Argentine citizenship.
@16 An underscored Voice
“The number of persons altogether on the island consisted .....
twenty-five gauchos and five charruas, Indian
There were gauchos and charruas Indians left in 1833-who accepted British rule.
captain or “the Chief of the Gauchos” is a Frenchman. ..
Yes-he was murdered by Rivero but his descendants were still living in the Islands in the late 1870s.
Irishman who ”
Although he would no longer be British-Irish were British then.
Looks like the Islands community then was made up of a wide range of people from Europe-but Mr Underscored Voice, how many of these (except for the Indians) were born in South America?
Apart from the Indians, they all appear to be European implants.
Not one of those people appears to have been born in Argentina-not surprisingly as Argentina was established in 1853.
#33
It is often overlooked by the peronists that both Peron and wife Evita SOLD 10,000 blank Argentinian passports to Odessa giving safe passage and a creating new identities for SS Nazi butchers.
Yes SOLD and Argentina looks to Evita as a mother figure..... says a lot really about peronism
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Disclaimer & comment rulesHi cristina, I'm sure all of the world leaders are paying attention to you. What game shall we play next?
Mar 20th, 2014 - 07:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Haven't we already covered this?
Mar 20th, 2014 - 08:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pathetic woman, showing the world how she has ZERO understanding of international law.
I wonder how she feels, given Russia support for British sovereignty of the Falkland Islands? Betrayed perhaps? LOL
Yes Lep, Russia is actively lobbying in the interest of the UK...
Mar 20th, 2014 - 08:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Could you be more sorry?
Have I missed something here? Did she really say world powers have shown themselves in favor of the islands' referendum?
Mar 20th, 2014 - 08:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0I thought she was always saying that no-one but the Falklands and the UK accepted the referendum. Maybe she secretly knows the truth, that most countries take no notice of her ramblings.
Bahahahahaha
Mar 20th, 2014 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0She did indeed!
How can the Falkland Islands be part of a country that didn't exist when they were settled? The clot is hard at work in that ugly head.
Mar 20th, 2014 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0She is just a dipstick with lipstick.
Mar 20th, 2014 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0The British position refutes her daft claim to territorial integrity anyway and I never understand why this isn't always asserted too.
Mar 20th, 2014 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0The world should ask her to walk there.
I quote the UN Secretary General Ban-Ki-Moon on Wednesday May 19th 2010 when speaking at a forum on de-colonization in Noumea, New Caledonia -
Mar 20th, 2014 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The world’s 16 remaining territories that still do not govern themselves must have complete freedom in deciding their future status”
He didn’t say “with the exception of the people of the Falkland Islands’
http://www.speroforum.com/a/33140/Remaining-nonselfgoverning-territories-must-have-full-freedom-of-choice-Ban-says
There's a fairly simple explantion. Depending on whether you have two brain cells to rub together. Something few argies have.
Mar 20th, 2014 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is NO legitimate basis for considering the Falkland Islands part of argie territory. AT ANY TIME. EVER!! Therefore, the territorial integrity of argieland has no bearing.
The Crimea has been part of Ukraine for 60 years. The Soviet Union handed it over. If Russia wanted it back, or had concerns, the appropriate action was to approach the government of Ukraine and agree a peaceful method of determining the wishes of the people of the Ukraine. Instead, Russia mobilised and deployed 100,000 troops and invaded.
But then argies like CFK discard anything that doesn't suit their agenda. I'm sure that argie muppets and fellow travellers will be on to explain everything soon!
Then we can all have a laugh!
The way she talks about the Falklands and Territorial Integrity, it makes you think that the Falklands are not actual islands, but share a land border with mainland Argentina.
Mar 20th, 2014 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falkland ISLANDS are 400 miles off the coast of Argentina. This no way affects Argentina's territorial integrity. There is nothing to suggest that it does. She really is clutching at straws here.
Lol @7 Isolde
Mar 20th, 2014 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you for that little gem. Beautifully put!
:-)
Very strange to compare FI and Crimea. When Crimea was transferred from Russia to Ukraine both countries were member of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. It was decided by the central government of the Union (or perhaps by N.S. Khrushchev himself) as a kind of gift from Russia to Ukraine. As it was not made within the frameworks of the constitutions of either the Soviet Union itself or the two republics concerned. So today Russia could say that it was illegal and agaist the territorial integity of the RFSSR. At the same time today,s actions are of course against the T.I. of Ukraine. And what about the territorial integrity of the Soviet Union? It must have been totaly massacred back in 1991. So, what really is Territorial integrity? But the Falklands have never been internationally recognised as part of the territory of the Argentine Republic.
Mar 20th, 2014 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As the Falklands have never been a part of Argentina's territory, the 'territorial integrity' argument falls at the first fence
Mar 20th, 2014 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes Christina a vote called by an invading army with no international observers is exactly the same as a vote organised by the internal that took the better part of a a year to put together with independent observers from half a dozen contries. Idiot.
Mar 20th, 2014 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However, world powers have showed themselves in favor of the Islands’ referendum and that has no value
Really, for the last year you have been harping on that no one in the international community reconised our referendum. She tells so many lies that she can't remember which ones she's told.
The Malvinas Islands have always belonged to Argentina
Always Christina, really? A three month illigal penal garrison and a 64 day invasion. Even if you accept Argentina's spurious claim this would suggest that she thinks that the history of the Falklands started in the 19th century.
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Mar 20th, 2014 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0.....A three month illigal penal garrison and a 64 day invasion.
...is that what they teach in Falklands...?
“ I have procured these papers from Mr. Vernet himself,…. I understand from him that he will have sent to Soledad, and Staten Land IN THIS YEAR, AND THE LAST, about one hundred persons altogether, of different Nations… ”
“The number of persons altogether on the island consisted of about one hundred, including twenty-five gauchos and five charruas, Indians. There are a few Dutch families, the women of which milk the cows, and make the butter. Two or three Englishmen, a German family, and the remainder made up of Spaniards and Portuguese, pretending to follow some trade, but doing little or nothing. The gauchos are chiefly Spaniards: their captain or “the Chief of the Gauchos” is a Frenchman. .. One gauchos was worth fifteen hundred dollars, and an Irishman who had been a gaucho, and had come to the island in Don Vernet’s debt, had not only paid it off, but had been enabled to give him seven hundred and fifty dollars for a building which he had converted into a store. ”
Looks to be slightly more than an illegal penal garrison....
I wonder how many islanders can trace their lineage back to these original colonists from the Argentine Republic...?
Or is their lineage only back to the implanted settlers after 1833...?
I feel sorry for the poor Irishman after paying all his debts and opening a store.....
Here's a new patriot of an inspirational guy that was created as a result of a nationwide vote.
Mar 20th, 2014 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/mar/20/simon-weston-national-portrait-gallery
Simon, and his fellow soldiers remind us all of the colonialist invasion of our Falkland Islands and the Argentinian defeat. Thank God for our armed forces.
I don't see any 'Argentines' in that list. I can see a few English though.
Mar 20th, 2014 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WTF is an 'implanted settler' anyway?
Lots of people here can trace their lineage back to gaucho families. and Scottish, Irish, Chilean, English etc. Do you have a point?
In what way are Vernet's settlers any different from any other settlers?
Its pointless arguing with these RG dolts about what happened nearly 200 years ago. Its history. What matters is they were chucked out whimpering in 1982 and wont ever be coming back. Their 'wonderful' country is a pariah and basket case anyway, curently aligning itself with cruel dictatorships like Cuba and Venezuala.
Mar 20th, 2014 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Meanwhile the Falkland Islanders have peace, a crime free country, prosperity and 100% English support. The ramblings of various RG supporting numbskulls on here are of noconsequence whatsoever.
Nice little educational film for the Trolls
Mar 20th, 2014 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26431323
@18 Monty69: In what way are Vernet's settlers any different from any other settlers?
Mar 20th, 2014 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The difference is there is no such thing as Vernet's settlers. He may well have had workers on the islands with the permission of the UK, but clearly he was never given the power to have the final say on who was to be a permanent resident on the islands.
@16
Mar 20th, 2014 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your statement that you have procured these papers from Mr Vernet himself must be a lie, as he would be at least 201 yrs old if he was in his 20's in 1833.
Ignore the twit, perhaps she will go away,
Mar 20th, 2014 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0still, they invited her, let them suffer the fall out and humiliation,
p/s
did not CFK back the UN Resolution on Russia.
7 lsolde
Mar 20th, 2014 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She is just a dipstick with lipstick.
Ha, ha, ha!!!! That is such a cool put down!!!
Nuff respec!!!
“However, world powers have showed themselves in favor of the Islands’ referendum...” said CFK
Mar 20th, 2014 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Up until now CFK has insisted that the world backs HER. First she forgets to mention the Falklands in a 2 hours speech on the state of the nation and now she admits that the worlds supports US.
Chuckle chuckle
Your quite right Joe.
Mar 20th, 2014 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you for the reminder.
Here they are the ones you lot defend
Mar 20th, 2014 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.euronews.com/2014/03/19/ukranian-tv-boss-assaulted-and-forced-to-resign-by-far-right-svoboda-mps/
The man with the ponytail is nobody else than Igor Mirosjnitjenko, vice chairman of the commitee of freedom of opinion.
You bunch of Nazi lovers...
@10 Conqueror
Mar 21st, 2014 - 07:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Alicia Castro, the Argentine Ambassador in London, has even gone so far as to claim that the Falklands archipelago is an enclave within Argentine territory. Enclave in both English and Spanish is described in dictionaries as a parcel of land completely surrounded by the land of another country.
Such a statement just shows what a prize representative Argentina has in London!
27 Stevie
Mar 21st, 2014 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0You bunch of Nazi lovers...
So, we are back in the playground now are we Stevie?
Trying to trade the sort of insults a 6 year old would come up with in the hope of provoking someone?
YAWN...............................................
Poor widdle, lame boy Stevie...........ain't got nothing but his playground taunts...........
By the way, does your mamma know that you are on the internet?
As long as your governments back Nazis up and you lot quietly accept, you are nothing but a bunch Nazi lovers.
Mar 21st, 2014 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is your comment the fact that the vice chairman f the Ukranian Committee of Freedom of Speech, imposed on the Ukranian people by USA, with most prominent faces of Victoria F*ck the EU Nuland and Catherine Is that so Ashton, is nothing but a Nazi thug?
Poor widdle Stevie,
Mar 21st, 2014 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you bring an apple for your teacher today Stevie?
Did you? did you?
Have you done your homework like a good widdle boy?
@16
Mar 21st, 2014 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Vernet, you mean that independent businessman that sought permission from Britain to set up a business venture on the Falklands and then left the business running under his British 2IC, that Vernet?
I wonder how many islanders can trace their lineage back to these original colonists from the Argentine Republic...?
None because the Argentine Republic didn't exist then, maybe you mean the United Provinces.
# 15 thanks for the list I didn't realise that absolutely none of the settlers in the early 1830s were Argentine. Thank god the Islands were liberated from the garrison there.
Mar 21st, 2014 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The British don't support Nazis, we support the people of Ukraine, unlike Argentina who developed the network to bring Nazis like Mengele to freedom and offer them Argentine citizenship.
@16 An underscored Voice
Mar 21st, 2014 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The number of persons altogether on the island consisted .....
twenty-five gauchos and five charruas, Indian
There were gauchos and charruas Indians left in 1833-who accepted British rule.
captain or “the Chief of the Gauchos” is a Frenchman. ..
Yes-he was murdered by Rivero but his descendants were still living in the Islands in the late 1870s.
Irishman who ”
Although he would no longer be British-Irish were British then.
Looks like the Islands community then was made up of a wide range of people from Europe-but Mr Underscored Voice, how many of these (except for the Indians) were born in South America?
Apart from the Indians, they all appear to be European implants.
Not one of those people appears to have been born in Argentina-not surprisingly as Argentina was established in 1853.
#33
Mar 22nd, 2014 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is often overlooked by the peronists that both Peron and wife Evita SOLD 10,000 blank Argentinian passports to Odessa giving safe passage and a creating new identities for SS Nazi butchers.
Yes SOLD and Argentina looks to Evita as a mother figure..... says a lot really about peronism
Thieves and rotten to the core, CFK is an insult to democracy..
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