MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
In memory of Malvinas, a passage is officially named “April 2” instead of 'Inglaterra'
Buenos Aires City councilors gave final approval to a bill that officially names “April 2”, a passage in the neighborhood of Agronomia, which was re-baptized with that name by residents during the 1982 Malvinas war conflict, who erased the original name of 'England'. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesBut we don't support the war that the Evil junta, we'll just comemerate the start of the war at every chance.
Mar 28th, 2014 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0April 2 passage, just next to We Lost boulavard.
Hilarious! They renamed our clock but…… its still the English clock!
Mar 28th, 2014 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Explains why they abstained from the vote condemning the Russian action in Crimea: The Falklands, Sudetenland, Crimea, all the same ”it's ours it's ours... oh, the world says we're invading scum and should get the fudge out of there, well that's clearly because we're right and they're wrong winge winge winge. At least the Germans eventually learned their lesson.
Mar 28th, 2014 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Check out the map of how the world voted yesterday in the UN, by the way, it looks like the map that Global Transparency shows to reflect levels of corruption :D
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/UN_Resolution_regarding_the_territorial_integrity_of_Ukraine.svg
“ .. a survivor of the Condor Operation in September 1966 ...” Survivor?? That would be because the Arg Gov shot most of them?
Mar 28th, 2014 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0I really can't think of any other country or instance of a government celebrating, commemorating the start of a war.
Mar 28th, 2014 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5 exactly.........it's laughable.
Mar 28th, 2014 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can you imagine a 1st september strasse in Berlin?
That is totally absurd. It is as if a street in Berlin got a new name “1 of September Street” commemorating the German attack on Poland.
Mar 28th, 2014 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hi Swede, wow, great minds think alike
Mar 28th, 2014 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who cares what they do ? Is this news?
Mar 28th, 2014 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argie behaviour at its best...
Mar 28th, 2014 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anywhere else it would be unimaginable to celebrate the start of a war of aggression.
Mar 28th, 2014 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 025th of April and the 14th of June, being the liberation days would seem somewhat more appropriate.
Funny how the Argies claim to distance themselves from the Evil Junta yet celebrate invading the peaceful Falklands.
Are they really surprised the Falklands are happy to be protected by 1060 militarily personnel.
Let's read this properly. A “passage” in “AGGROnomia”, i.e. a shit-filled alley, is being named to commemorate somewhere? What was wrong with “Pje. British Boot up the argie Arse”? How about “Pje. Prise British Boot from Arse and return Licked Clean and Polished”. Then there's “Pje. Stretched and Need Another British Boot”. Or “Come South and Crush Our Balls”.
Mar 28th, 2014 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0This date is all about the moment, like winning the world cup, crowding into the square, beating your chest and cheering a drunk Italian wearing a banana uniform, rambling on about a great victory he'd delivered to the fatherland....
Mar 28th, 2014 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0They need to be pitied more than anything else.
@5 FI_Frost, I'm aware of one example of an occupation being celebrated:
Mar 28th, 2014 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0In world war 2, following the German invasion of neutral Denmark, the British government were concerned about them invading the Faroe Islands (which were effectively a county of Denmark that was 600 miles away from the Danish mainland and less than 200 from the UK) and using them as a staging point for an invasion or to attack the Atlantic convoys from, so Britain “invaded” first.
The occupation was at worst cordial, and there were 170 marriages between members of the garrison and the islanders. At the end of the occupation, aside from increasing the size of the gene pool, the most tangiable results were the airport that the Royal Engineers had built and the islanders appreciation of fish and chips and Cadburys Dairy Milk.
In 1990, the Faroese government organised “British Week” as a celebration, complete with a visit from HMS Brilliant (later BNS Dodsworth) and a Royal Marines marching band.
I have to say that I am not surprised by this little stunt.
Mar 28th, 2014 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0What else have they got to celebrate?
Getting their arses kicked off the island in double quick time?
NO chance of ever getting the Islands
Not having a job and no money for food and gas?
TMBOA is still “in charge” of the economy TGW Kickitoff, the thinking person’s idiot?
I could go on forever but it really is getting boring with these juveniles and their stupid, stupid trolls.
What a truly disgusting country Argentina is turning into. They'll be replacing their flag with the swastika next. Normal countries should boycott anything to do with them.
Mar 28th, 2014 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hi Alex - come on now - just waiting for you to explain this acts of crass two faced stupidity as a good example of why we should sit down and talk with Argentina about sovereignty!!!!!
Mar 28th, 2014 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Haha look at the idiot holding up the V for victory sign.
Mar 28th, 2014 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Obviously Argentina's pathetic education system at work.
What a pathetic attitude...how pathetic are peronists...what a stupid think.....
Mar 28th, 2014 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ha ha ha!
Mar 28th, 2014 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0That would have to one of the most futile acts that l have ever heard of!
Good though! lf anyone gets mugged in that alley, at least they got mugged in the 2 de abril alley & not in England.
l guess it wouldn't make too much news though.
Theres ALWAYS someone being mugged in Argentina! lol!
Another case of agronomia.
Mar 28th, 2014 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0World Dictionary
agronomia - an obsessional desire or craze for the Falkland Islands
see also:-
mythomania lying or exaggerating to an abnormal extent.
pseudomania irrational predilection for lying
squandermania irrational propensity for spending money wastefully
Apparently next up they're going to rename the Plaza de Mayo 1 April Square.
Mar 28th, 2014 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It was the evil Junta that started the war, nothing to do with us
Mar 28th, 2014 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xqwNsmzCbM
@22
Mar 28th, 2014 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At last I understand.
Turns out that the invasion of the Falkland Islands in '82 was just an April Fools joke and that the Brits etc., having no sense of humour, fell for it.
So it wasn't Argentina's fault at all....righttttt
I think the two thugs holding the banner are La Campora or so it says on the banner. But they lie so you would not know for sure.
Mar 28th, 2014 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It would be a nice gesture and a fitting tribute to complement this Argentine gesture by having a street in Stanley renamed “14 June.”
Mar 28th, 2014 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is it all the deadbeats on here say when we remind them that the invasion was out of order?
Mar 28th, 2014 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“That wasn't us, that was the Junta”
So I guess the Junta put that street sign up also?
I am quite surprised that my cousin making the V Sign at the back wasnt lynched?
Mar 28th, 2014 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@19 Oh, of course, it wasn't YOU. And, of course, YOU only want the land. Try to explain where Falkland Islanders will live. Will they float, insubstantially, a thousand feet above? If they don't live on the Falkland Islands, what should they be called? This is a process often referred to as “ethnic cleansing”. And argieland has a long and disgusting history of ethnic cleansing. Following on from argie “independence”, did argieland reject Spanish methods? Nope. It moved it on. Did it reject Spanish “conquest” in order to live peacefully? Nope. One way or another, it attacked every other country around.
Mar 28th, 2014 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course, attacking other countries and “subduing” the population requires practice. But you can always follow nazi methods and use 30,000 of your own population to update and practice. Or you can take a look around and see who else is defenceless. Right?
See whether you can get this through your thick skull. The Falkland Islands, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands are BRITISH territories. In time, they may become INDEPENDENT. They will NEVER belong to argieland.
And what, you may say, can Britain do about anything argieland decides to do? Are there underground hangars with Typhoon multi-role aircraft in abundance? Are there underground docks with sub-surface entrances/exits where submarines are based? Are there underground barracks and armouries? Are there camouflaged silos with nuclear missiles targeted on argieland? Where are they? Anywhere within 7,000 miles? If the UK “reduces” its number of warheads, what does it do with the spares? Are YOU in a set of cross-hairs? At a GPS location? At a point where latitude and longitude cross?
Yup, I totally disagree with this.
Mar 28th, 2014 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing from war and conquest should be celebrated. It would help if European nations showed leadership and returned all the treasures in museums in Paris, London, Germany, Madrid, and elsewhere to Greece, Egypt, etc.
@And presumably you'll be doing likewise: packing your bags and heading home to Europe. Good for you. Unless of course you have some week exemption excuse?
Mar 28th, 2014 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What does returning artifacts taken during a time of conquest, war, or colonial ambitions have to do with moving entire people's?
Mar 28th, 2014 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where did I say anyone from Europe had to move? We are talking about objects here.
Marvellous! Argentina is celebrating the dictatorship, Galtieri and Argentina's agression in 1982!
Mar 28th, 2014 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I guess insanity cannot be driven to greater heights - perhaps if Japan celebrated the Nanking Massacre and the attack on Pearl Harbor, Russia the war against Finland and the US arranged Hiroshima and Nagasaki carnivals?
Toby, you are an object - an object of derision! Lol!
Mar 28th, 2014 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I suppose when all you can do is shout and cry from the sidelines, childish gestures like this are all your have. Is the next step an effigy burning to seal their third world credentials.
Mar 28th, 2014 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In memory of Malvinas,
Mar 28th, 2014 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0these so called argies are proving beyond doubt they are brainwashed,
we supposed if their leaders wanted to name an ally after CFK they would be raring to go,
yet somehow one thinks they would both end up in the same as others, full of animal faeces, and rats.
still,
one day they will grow up and join the real world..
There isn't a country on the planet that celebrates losing quite like Argentina.
Mar 28th, 2014 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and what the f*ck do you care about a street´s name in buenos aires?
Mar 28th, 2014 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0nobody here gives a sh*t if you decided to name your “most important avenue” (lol) as thatcher, blair or any other british c*nt.
mind your own business, little islanders.
@38
Mar 28th, 2014 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And you Argies wonder why the Falkland islanders want nothing to do with you.
30
Mar 28th, 2014 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Toby I totally agree with you.
and what the f*ck does paulcedron care about his country celebrating the dictatorship, Galtieri and a war.
Mar 28th, 2014 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@38 paulcedron,
Mar 28th, 2014 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You malvinistas are always saying that the Falklands belong to you.
lf they do, then naming that silly street is indeed part of our business, you halfwit.
You cannot have it both ways.
And this argument is as ridiculous as Argentina's “claims” on OUR land.
Thank you, Paul for reinforcing, in my mind, why we do not want to be part of the failed rogue state of Argentina.
Ever.
#38
Mar 28th, 2014 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An intelligent thought out reply !
If you were capable of rational thought you would realise that by naming the street after the date of the invasion of the Falklands, it indicates that the people that did it are in agreement with what happened then.
It must then be assumed that, given the opportunity, they would do it again. This flies in the face of what your government are “publicly ” saying about their peaceful intents.
It reinforces the need of the UK forces to keep a beady eye on mainland Argentina and be ready to slap you down hard if you ever try it again..
I can never get my head around the way argies think, they tell the world that they want piece and tell everyone that they have nothing to do with the Junta and the invasion of the British Falkland Islands, and all the time they support all the Juntas actions including the invasion, wet themselves thinking about when they sank our ships, and support invasion day. Please wake me up when they decide what it is going to be....
Mar 28th, 2014 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was told that the next action is to vanish Britain from world maps...
Mar 28th, 2014 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After all what that is useful for?
Is it certain that the article's image shows residents of the street? They look more like a bunch of hobos to me.
Mar 28th, 2014 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway, thanks to the BA thugs for promoting the dissociation
42 isolde
Mar 29th, 2014 - 01:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0are you addressing me with that “malvinista” thing, you silly girl?
as far as i'm concerned, you can keep those two pieces of rock for 100 years more.
as for the part of “why we do not want to be part of the failed rogue state of Argentina”, well, that is a great.
nobody wants a group of useless parasites (aka kelpers) either.
not even the real british taxpayers.
43
so for the name of a street you assume that argentina wants to invade the islets?
you are a joke.
I've got to say that it's up to them how they name a street-I'm going to name one of my fields 'Who lost in 1982?'
Mar 29th, 2014 - 01:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina won the world cup in 1978 and 1986-I would have thought that was worth naming a street after-but I guess for them the 1982 invasion was a great success, if you forget that it was because there was very little opposition (and even the Royal Marines shocked the Argies by keeping them at bay for a time-pity the Argies didn't take the hint what would happen when more than 80 men turned up).
What makes this so sad is they turn a blind eye to being walloped 3 months later after holding a huge tactical advantage.
They are Ostriches (Rheas?) with their heads firmly stuck in the sand.
What a petty thing to do! Typical, however, of the psyche of so many Argentines. The Franco-Inglesa chemist's shop also changed its name under pressure from the mob.
Mar 29th, 2014 - 04:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can anyone get a photo of this “passage”? I suspect it's an awful place that should never have been called “Inglaterra” in the first place.
Don't worry boys Dany comes to the rescue again and the passage name have been restored...
Mar 29th, 2014 - 06:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Passage Ukistan
http://postimg.org/image/gsovykm47/
Ha ha
A meaningless infantile gesture!
Mar 29th, 2014 - 07:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Paulcedron
Mar 29th, 2014 - 08:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Falkland Islanders will keep the Islands in perpetuity not for the 100 you feel you can grant.
@47 paulcedron,
Mar 29th, 2014 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0So now you don't want OUR land?
That is good to hear.
Call us parasites if it makes you feel good-l really don't care.
We're not, but thats by-the-by.
l brought a lot of money & assets here, but its well worth it.
And you are still in a failed rogue state called Argentina.
Which is a pity, because it could be such a prosperous place if managed correctly.
Yes paul, Clyde15 is right, you DO want to invade us again, & l believe that you WILL try again.
Your defence minister Putricelli admitted it.
Think long & hard before you attempt it, paul.
You will pay dearly next time.
@30
Mar 29th, 2014 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0I agree.
What's your timetable for returning the land your foreberars stole off the Amerindians?
53 isolde
Mar 29th, 2014 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0isolde, neither you nor clyde know a damn about argentina.
i am totally against kirchner, but everybody knows, even the opposition, the anti kirchnerismo, etc, that she would never invade the islets.
in fact everybody is against that.
it would be a political suicide.
not a surprise that you or clyde think that there will be an invasion.
what can you expect when your only source of information is this 4th class “newspaper”?
@55
Mar 29th, 2014 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0“that she would never invade the islets.”
She would if there wasn't anything there to stop her-that's why she and Timmerman bang on about demilitarising the South Atlantic in the vain hope that the UK say 'Yes, we believe you, withdraw all forces and let you impersonate Hitler again.'
Oh! poor Gordo1 seems you have lost your sense of humour...
Mar 29th, 2014 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even your mummy queen is laughing on the picture...
Interesting related story just appeared in MercoPress En Español (URL link below) about UK official using lable ”Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas)“. Indeed a mistake but hardly surprising if officials just glance at Google Maps for their information.
Mar 29th, 2014 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Including ”Islas Malvinas” might be appropriate if the text within which the Falkland Islands lable was embedded was in Spanish. The European Union's EUR-Lex nomenclature (URL link below) recognizes “Malvinas” only for Spanish text, Les Isles Malouines for French text, but for ALL of the other 30 languages, the official lable is Falkland + the specific language translation of “islands”.
URL of story “Documento oficial del Reino Unido refiere a Falklands como las 'Islas Malvinas'”:
http://es.mercopress.com/2014/03/29/documento-oficial-del-reino-unido-refiere-a-falklands-como-las-islas-malvinas
URL of EU Lex: http://es.mercopress.com/2014/03/29/documento-oficial-del-reino-unido-refiere-a-falklands-como-las-islas-malvinas
@ 58 JohnN
Mar 29th, 2014 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK Official is probably an East European working in a sub-contract occupation in the true spirit of EU “helpfulness”.
Don’t forget he works for Vince “Cable”, who should be strung up by one from the nearest lamppost.
Why celebrate a FAILED invasion?
Mar 29th, 2014 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Surely they should be sad at the deaths embarrassed to lose.
what an odd bunch....
#53
Mar 29th, 2014 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What makes you think that this is our ONLY source of information about Argentina ?
KFC says she is looking for a peaceful solution...in Argentina's favour and it would be political suicide to try an invasion. How do we know that years down the line, another load of nut cases will not take over your.
government an try it.
No, I don't know much about the beast of Argentina but I know what it did in the not so distant past and can hear the government pronouncements on what it wants in the future. Why should we trust you.
I could also say that YOU know damn all about Britain and the way we would react to ANY takeover of the islands.
So, to sum up , we know damn all about each other 's countries...you seem to be interested in mine; apart from the botany and wildlife in yours, I have no particular interest in your people and politics except where it impinges on the UK.
38 paulcedron
Mar 29th, 2014 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And what the f*ck do you care about a street
WOW, Touchy, Touchy
,,,,
45 DanyBerger
Was told by CFK that the next action is to vanish Britain from world maps...
And replace all British territories with the Argentine flag..
Apparently these two are going to write a best seller,??lol
55 paulcedron
Mar 29th, 2014 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“but everybody knows, even the opposition, the anti kirchnerismo, etc, that she would never invade the islets”
Well, they are WRONG as well!!!
Listen dummy... We know because your foreign minister admitted as such. He had said ( and the fact had been widely reported by some of the posters on this very forum ) that if there wasn't a British base on the Islands, they would be back in there like a rat up a drainpipe.
So go on!!! Continue to walk through your life with your eyes shut.
Was it not Saddam Hussian who took great pains to reassure his neighbours that he was not going to invade Kuwait back in 1990, right up until the point that he did?
and if you want any further proof:- was it not laughing boy Timerman who said in a press conference IN LONDON that the Falklands would be Argentine with in 25 years???
Oh, and one final point, was it not Carl von Clausewitz who said that :- “War is the continuation of politics by other means”
Open your eyes.
Deception and bluff,
Mar 29th, 2014 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 64 Briton
Mar 29th, 2014 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Deception and bluff,”
How dare you talk about TMBOA's face like that!
:o)
@61 Clyde15 &
Mar 29th, 2014 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@63 toooldtodieyoung,
l was going to answer our mate paulcedron, but you've both said all that needs to be said.
Thank You.
Yes, Paul, sometime in the future, Argentina will try again.
This time the consequences will be grave.
But go ahead, take a shot at the Title.
Entertain us.
@55
Mar 29th, 2014 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What are you on about 'islets', they are what you put a bloody curtain pole through.
Anyway, we have a local tip near me, well it used to be called a tip, then it was called a municipal reclamation centre, now its called an eco-centre. I have no problem at all them calling it the Argentino eco-centre, because at the end of the day it is still a tip, just like the that street in the picture - whatever you choose to call it!
Argentine politicians just p*ssing in the wind again. Just gets more embarrassing when they do it on the world stage. Trying to blag the Pope to get involved just makes it worse.
Mar 29th, 2014 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even if he did why would Protestant Britain give a hoot what a Catholic Pope thinks anyway?
Our glorious King Henry VIII put them straight on what Britons think of the insidious Vatican many, many years ago.
Nothing has changed there.
55 paulcedron
Mar 29th, 2014 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”what can you expect when your only source of information is this 4th class “newspaper”
You keep digging that hole for yourself don't you? My dearest little argentian retard?
Safe to say that friend lsolde and friend Clyde15 have access to Tinternet and that this forum is just one of the many sites that they visit.
I don't pretend to the details of their lives but, from the comments that they post and the links that they post too, They are more worldly wise and open minded than you will ever be.
It would appear that, the only source of information that you access ( by choice ) is your own governments propaganda sites, by your pitiful, whiny posts and your brain washed point of view.
Open your eyes.
69
Mar 29th, 2014 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”It would appear that, the only source of information that you access ( by choice ) is your own governments propaganda sites,”
no, you are wrong, you little imbecile.
it is exactly the oposite, you little retard.
for all the bullsh*t you lot post, it is clear that the only thing you have read in your lives is this 4th class newspaper and maybe the sun.
70
Mar 30th, 2014 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really? That is what you really think? If that is what is 'clear' to you, then I pity you. I truly do.
Anyway, anything to say about the Argies trying to co-opt old pope-corn Francis into somehow influencing a Protestant nation?
65 ChrisR
Mar 30th, 2014 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ha ha,
I missed masking, plastic or concrete…lol
70 paulcedron
Give up…
.
70 paulcedron
Mar 30th, 2014 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, yes, yes I know widdle sweetums.... I see that you now got the hang of Mimicking.
What's the matter?
Hasn't your controller at La Campora told you what your opinion is yet?
Silly little Troll, you are just like all the other trolls on this sight, too blind to see that you are brain-washed and too full of hate to see the truth.
Open your eyes.
73
Mar 30th, 2014 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what can you know about la campora., you little islander?
do you know who are them, the name of their leaders, what they think, etc, you little islander?
they are exactly the same like you, the same kind of imbeciles.
they are adoctrinated and brainwashed exactly like you,
cranky paul is cranky.
Mar 30th, 2014 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0no empire for you niño
you're too late by at least 180 years
It's still the English clock. Always will be. We built it and gave it to you.
Mar 30th, 2014 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unlike your piss-ant alleyway. ..
you really should be more grateful. ...
:-)
so argentina should be more grateful for a clock
Mar 31st, 2014 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0what about the hundreds of thousands tons of food argentina sent during ww2 (britain never paid, by the way).
argentina saved the british people of starvation.
add to that the 4000 argentine soldiers, nurses and pilots that fought for the british, also in ww2.
it seems the one that should be more grateful is britain.
Would you really like to get into a competitive argument involving national contributions to the planet?
Mar 31st, 2014 - 12:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0In English?
The global language of commerce?
You don't have even have a national language. .
just a borrowed one.
quit now. Loser!
the only english contribution to argentina was... a clock
Mar 31st, 2014 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0lol
well, what can you expect from a country that invaded and looted 3/4 of the world.
ugliest people in the world, bad teeth, thieves and murderers. the british have it all.
it is genetic, no doubts.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/80637040/
Does anyone know of any London landmark donated by Argentina?
Mar 31st, 2014 - 01:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0donated by argentina?
Mar 31st, 2014 - 02:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0just millions of tons of food when the britons needed it most.
plus 4000 people who fought for them.
and they talk about a clock...lol
@80
Mar 31st, 2014 - 02:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0One the best comments ever!
PMSL!! Several times!!
paulie you forget two important things
1) railway which you have let fall into disrepair. .
2) your ability to engage on a truly global stage by use of English! Not some third rate Catholic Latino speak. But something truly beautiful and inventive.
You may thank us if you wish. We don't t really care. By owning the language we own your intellect. You can never truly compete.
just a little insight for you !!! A little peek behind the curtain to a world you have no access to.
Ooh was that a bit harsh? I'll let you recover now.
You really need to learn not to fight the British.
the best thing of this 4th class newspaper is when these 4th class plebs talk as if they were personnages importants.
Mar 31st, 2014 - 03:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0not even the real british consider them as equals.
totally understandable, by the way.
massive inferiority complex they must have.
@ paulcedron,
Mar 31st, 2014 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0You did not “donate” any food to Britain.
lt was all paid for. Are you a complete idiot?
And those Argentines who fought for Britain were mostly Anglo-Argentines who volunteered. And we thank them so very much for that.
They were not sent by any benevolent Argentine govt, it was their individual decisions.
What Argentina DID do was nationalise British owned businesses, like the Railways & give shelter to hundreds of die-hard Nazis.
About time that you faced the truth, paul.
Throw away those lying Argentine history books for a start.
Why, they've convinced generations of Argentine youth that you actually own the Falklands, when any sane & sensible person knows that to be a tissue of lies!
Hope this helps.
#83
Mar 31st, 2014 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0If we are 4th class plebs then you are tarred by the same brush for continually commenting here.
The only massive inferiority complex is shown by YOU and your fellow travelers.
You are green with envy because you amount to nothing apart from hot air.
84 & 85
Mar 31st, 2014 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well said!
Paulcedron
Mar 31st, 2014 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0”what about the hundreds of thousands tons of food argentina sent during ww2 (britain never paid, by the way).
argentina saved the british people of starvation.
add to that the 4000 argentine soldiers, nurses and pilots that fought for the british, also in ww2.” (QUOTE )
The foodstuffs were paid for . Peron gleefully accepted Lancasters , Lincolns , Gloster Meteors , Shermans and other war surplus equipment in lieu of cash or gold .
As for the volunteers , 98% were from English families and were fighting for King & Country , not for Argentina .They had to pay for their own passages till the Blue Star line ( owned by the Vesteys ) agreed to take them for free.
In 1940 Peron was attached to the Italian Alpini and the Ortiz/Castillo/Ramirez governments during the war were openly Pro Axis .
Why should Britain thank Argentina because 4000 people privately volunteered and for selling foodstuffs at inflated prices ?
BTW Did the Nazi's ever thank Peron for the 30,000 blank Argentine passports he gave them after the war ?
87
Mar 31st, 2014 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0what?
the uk never paid a cent.
not a surprise when you talk about britain.
why you talk when you know nothing about the issue.
SOME of those 4000 volunteers had english blood exclusively.
99% of them had a mix of heritages like all of us.
i know many of those families from my old club, now, if you think that a guy with irish surname has english blood, you are totally wrong.
the reason why argentina remained neutral were 1st, it was a european war, nothing to do with argentina and 2nd your “hero” churchill begged argentina to remain neutral so we could send food to the uk without being attacked by germany.
you guys have a lot to thank
Paul, You are sounding a lot like Toby and that is not a compliment.
Mar 31st, 2014 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your irrational hatred toward the UK is merely a poor education filled with Peronista propaganda and false talking points.
You should really try to read history that has not been tainted by the Argentinian “education” system.
If you are wondering what I am talking about, it all starts with the Patoruzito cartoons. Indoctrination, Propaganda and a fictional boogeyman.
Now we KNOW that you're lying, paul.
Mar 31st, 2014 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're not very good at it, maybe you should take expert lying lessons from Señor Think.
NOW he is an accomplished, dedicated, awesome LIAR.
With a bit of understudy, you can be too!
yankeeboy
Mar 31st, 2014 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i already told you, but anyway, i tend to respect your opinions because, at least and unlike the rest of the “opinadores” here, you have been here.
now, i am exactly the contrary to a product of peronista propaganda or a peronista education system.
i do not hate the uk, on the other hand.
the ones that hate argentina as a whole are the “opinadores” here.
i would agree with them if their hatred was only against argentinian politicians.
but they mix it all.
isolde
lying about what exactly?
about the food shipments?
about the argentine volunteers?
about what churchill asked to argentina?
read a book instead this 4th class pasquín once in a while, isolde.
@88 : I know a lot more about it than you , as more than ten members of my extended family were amongst the volunteers you claim to know so much about...
Mar 31st, 2014 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mixed ancestry my arse . That came much later .
Incidentally , do you know how many Italian Argentines and German Argentines went “ home ” to fight for the Axis in 1939 ?
A lot more than 4000 .
This will give you an idea of how strongly the Nazi Party was established in the pre war German community in Argentina :
http://adkaplan.blogspot.co.uk/2010/08/nazis-en-la-argentina.html
( For the Brits and Americans , use Google translate , it's a fascinating article )
I never questioned Argentina's neutrality , I do take exception at you hijacking the motives of 4000 Anglo Argentines as anything other than people answering the call of the “ mother country ” even though most were first or second generation Argentine .
Finally , I repeat , Peron accepted war surplus as payment for the debt . No one disputes this , apart from you .
92
Mar 31st, 2014 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what can you know, you dimwit.
my great gandparent was there, and as far as i know he was an argentinian with irish blood.
most of the volunteers came from british and irish schoools and rugby clubs here.
between them, the ones i attended.
and you try to give me a lesson about that matter?
you are a joke.
93. Do your grandparents or parents live across from the Jockey Club in San Isidro? If so I've probably been in their house!
Mar 31st, 2014 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@54
Mar 31st, 2014 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Hans Niesund” is not part of the original strata of clan names of the British Isles. “Danelaw” came far after those islands had already been inhabited. So you would be wise to pose yourself that question.
@93 : Did you read any of my post ?
Mar 31st, 2014 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Leiste la parte donde dice que 14 oficiales Argentinos sirvieron en unidades de la Wehrmacht ?
Te parece coincidencia que los uniformes del ejercito argentino eran exactamente iguales a los alemanes ?
To the Brits : Paul is struggling with the fact that Argentina's bias during the war was in favour of the Nazis .
Oh , yes , as for that mythical debt of yours , have a read of this from Hansard , 1947: http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1947/mar/14/class-x
The British Govt paid the Argentine Govt £49.5M for grain in 1947 , a 200% mark up on what the government was paying the farmers .
Peron paid £150,000,000 for the railways in 1948 .
Had he waited till 1950 , he would have got them for free .
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1947/mar/14/class-x
PS : My school's shield had a man killing a dragon it , ring any bells ?
94
Mar 31st, 2014 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it could be, yankeeboy.
96
more than a man, the one who is killing the dragon is a saint.
my wife and all her brothers and sisters attended that school.
now returning to the point, how can somebody say that haroldo hyland, ricardo moreno et alter were not of mixed ancestry?
We both know that under Argentine law christian names have to be in spanish......
Mar 31st, 2014 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I did say in post 87 that 98% were of British ancestry .
Moreno , De Larminat , Franchesci are the laudable exceptions .
Stop trying to make out that their sacrifice was some sort of an Argentine crusade , it wasn't . It was a purely Anglo affair , as was the Fellowship of the Bellows .
Speak to any 90 year old you can find , and ask him who most Argentines were cheering for during the Battle of the River Plate , it wasn't for the British squadron , it was for the Graf Spee . The argentine military government , and the vast majority of people, were rooting for the Axis throughout the conflict , and Peron maintained that support AFTER the conflict , as we all know .
I am looking at a picture of Harold Hyland in “ Alas de Trueno ” right now , he is definitely not of mixed ancestry .
Some did paint pictures of Patoruzu on the sides of their 'planes . Does that make them indians ?
@98
Mar 31st, 2014 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So if the Anglo-Argentines were siding with mother England, how then do you not expect the German-Argentines and Italian-Argentines NOT to do the same and side with their countries? And the French-Argentines which did side with their country as well?
98
Mar 31st, 2014 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i respect your opinion cause clearly, like in the case of yankeeboy, it seems you are not talking by “boca de ganso” like the rest here, but i do not agree at all.
about harold hyland, he is, like many others who were part of the 164 squadron, 100% irish, not even a gout of british blood.
now, it was an argentine crusade. the fact that the government was not part of it, has nothing to do.
some of them were volunteers in the falklands / malvinas war too, piloting argentine cargo aircrafts.
you are totally wrong about the support for the axis.
the vast majority wanted argentina to remain neutral, and the british government agreed with that neutrality mostly because of the shipments issue.
Tell you what Paul , you are absolutely right .
Mar 31st, 2014 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A load of meztizos and criollos with assumed English surnames made their way to the UK , joined the British armed forces and beat the Germans single handed , while argentine air force planes bombed London with free bread .
The 20th of July bomb plot was not carried out by Von Stauffenberg but by an elite killer squad of argentine suicide commandos disguised as a touring tango quartet .Peron was their leader .
The A bomb was invented by Argentine scientists in Lomas NOT the Americans in LOS ALAMOS and argentines also invented the internal combustion engine , jet power , television , computers , the internet , the female orgasm, football , polo and discovered true the meaning of life .
The country is now a debt ridden , corrupt , africanized shit hole of a narco state because the Americans and British , jealous of the country's success , persuaded the World Bank to bankrupt it by lending it money and then having the sheer audacity to ask for the money back .
Does that fit into what you are taught these days ?
The pope has also joined in and asked for St Peters square to be renamed
Mar 31st, 2014 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinas plaza apparently according to Filmus. Bahahahaha.
Oh! I just wonder how the Bristh Crown and their corrupts politicians have managed to turn onces a greater world power as was Great Britain to UKistan the falling endebted and Isolated nation after NKorea?
Mar 31st, 2014 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0101 pirate
Mar 31st, 2014 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Does that fit into what you are taught these days ?”
taught these days?
by whom?
are you suggesting i am indoctrinated by the govt, the officialist media or who specifically?
in all three cases, you are totally wrong.
now, who talked about mestizos and criollos?
i was refering, in this particular case, to argentinians of mixed heritages in the sense of british + something else (spanish, italian, irish, you name the rest).
or to those who didn´t have any british heritage at all.
i am not the one who blames the americans or british for everything that happens here.
you got the wrong target.
103. Dany you never answered me, were you sexually abused by Muslims? Is that why you carry so much hatred for them?
Mar 31st, 2014 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Usurping Pirate,
Mar 31st, 2014 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(Love your screen name btw!),
lt seems to me that paulcedron is a successful, real life, breathing example of Peron's indoctrination & lies.
He has these ideas in his head & willnot even question, if in fact they are wrong.
Poor boy, he will be continually disappointed in his malvinas dreams.
Peace
isole @106
Apr 01st, 2014 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0it is the first time in my life that somebody calls me peronista, in some way.
my dad would have had a heart attack.
“breathing example of peron´s indoctrination”
lol
the good thing is the one whothinks that is you.
that is, somebody who does not know me, does not know a thing about perón and worse, does not know a thing about argentina.
and yet, you insist in opining about this country.
you lot confuse everything.
country with government, ordinary people with politicians, pears with bananas.
about that malvinista thing, i already told you, for me you can keep the stinky islets for 100 years more.
i dont give a damn.
you want 120 years more?
ok with me
Peron dreamed up the Malvinas lie and Paul swallowed it whole.
Apr 01st, 2014 - 03:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0The fact that he keeps thinking he can give a Falkland Islander permission to live there only makes it more farcical.
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Apr 01st, 2014 - 03:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0anglotino
another islander who talks without knowing a thing and counting...
the claims for malvinas started a lot before perón.
it is like a stone in the shoe since 1833.
Hello Paul,
Apr 01st, 2014 - 06:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't care what you are, l never called you a peronista.
Even if you are, l don't care.
Thank you for not wanting OUR home.
But you do really care, don't you Paul?
You said a few posts back that the lslands are Argentina's land.
Now you say they are not?
lts ok with me too, that we will keep our “stinky islets”.
stink of what?……money, perhaps? ha ha ha!
Anyway, paul doesn't want our lslands(he says!)so what are we arguing about?
QED
Paul
Apr 01st, 2014 - 07:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not an Islanders.
You are wrong. The lie was invented in the late 1930s. Jeez you don't even know your OWN history.
When you have a one party state for so many years , it is impossible to differentiate between peronism and the national interest , which is why Paul gets a bit confused sometimes . Failed peronista economic policies have become the national economic doctrine and everyone from top to bottom has been brainwashed into believing this “ Malvinas son Argentinas ” mantra will somehow solve everything , unite the country in common cause and everyone will live happily ever after . Added to which the Argentine national ego simply fails to comprehend why the Falklanders do not want be part of Cristina's or anyone else's “proyecto” .
Apr 01st, 2014 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0What no Argentine bothers to consider is “ How will acquiring/recovering the Malvinas improve Argentina and my families way of life ? ”
Obviously , it will make no difference at all .There will still be shit government , corruption , horrendous levels of violent crime , increased immigration and drug abuse and probably less welfare projects , because the government will have to increase the defence budget to protect the waters around the islands from illegal fishing predation ( actually , they probably won't bother , so Marplatense fishermen won't be too happy for a start ) .
The region will become unstable because Argentina , crowing with it's success , will start making territorial demands elsewhere and then a war , probably with Chile , will be inevitable .
@122 Usurping Pirate,
Apr 01st, 2014 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a pity that Argentina has sunk so low.
From your posts l gather that you are an Anglo-Argentine.
l suppose you remember the good times, when Argentina was a country to be envied?
Dad vaguely thought of emigrating to Argentina once.
But pulled up in South-East Asia instead.
110 hi isolde
Apr 01st, 2014 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0“You said a few posts back that the lslands are Argentina's land.
Now you say they are not?”
i have never said the islands are not argentina´s land.
in fact they are.
what i say, is that for me, you can keep them,
i dont care about those two pieces of rock, most of all after having had a +1000 deaths for them.
112 usurping pirate
“Failed peronista economic policies have become the national economic doctrine and everyone from top to bottom has been brainwashed into believing this “ Malvinas son Argentinas ” mantra will somehow solve everything , unite the country in common cause and everyone will live happily ever after .”
definetely not my case
Today a Montonero government and many Argentines celebrate an unprovoked act of aggression perpetrated by a military regime that kidnapped tortured and killed 10,000 of it's own citizens .
Apr 02nd, 2014 - 07:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0They celebrate the fact that this same brutal regime were going to do unto others what was done to them .
Argentines should reflect on this , and see how the rest of the world really views them .
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