Prince Harry will be visiting Brazil and Chile this month in support of the UK's interests in the region and will reflect the strong relationship the two countries have with the UK. The visit will also allow Prince Harry to build on the links he began to forge in South America during his official visit to Brazil in March 2012. Read full article
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Sounds very hectic.Jun 02nd, 2014 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
He is a GREAT ambassador for the UK as his recent visit down under showed.
The Queen's children have been greatly overshadowed by her grandchildren.
I wouldn't necessarily say that, but most of what some of the previous generation does is more sedate meetings and paperwork rather than jet-setting and flesh-pressing, as befits people who are creeping closer to retirement age.Jun 02nd, 2014 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Anne would be the best example, she's 63 but she's still the one of the British members of the International Olympic Committee, as well as St John Ambulance and a host of other things.
One thing that might have been a nice touch would be for Harry to go and see the Chile v Australia game (seeing as he's potentially their future head of state as well).
As fourth in line to the throne behind a grandmother who will see out a century, Harry isn't a potential head of state any longer.Jun 02nd, 2014 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Probably, but you never know...Jun 02nd, 2014 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
George VI was also considered to be not a potential future head of state (at least I would assume so, given that the ship that he was serving on was in the single largest naval battle of the first world war, and you tend to at least try and keep immediate heirs to the throne out of the firing line).
I think each Royal generation attracts a lot of attention when they are young.Jun 02nd, 2014 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Him and William have served their time in our armed services and have seen real combat and no doubt would fully play their part if we ever went to war again with a certain country. Unlike the children of many heads of state who act like gigilos and get fat on government cash, like Maximo lard arse for example.Jun 02nd, 2014 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
RufusJun 02nd, 2014 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
George VI was next in line to the throne after his brother Edward.
Harry is behind George who is behind William who is behind Charles.
Totally totally different circumstances. It would take 4 abdication or deaths or a mixture of both.
Anglotino. I think the keyword here was potentially. Rufas was not saying that it would likely happen.Jun 02nd, 2014 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
From what I remember of his last visit they enjoyed him being there and he enjoyed being there.Jun 02nd, 2014 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Nuff said really!
So, this is a joke, right? A theocracy is sending a royal oligarch to two republics in order to represent it. Its not credible. It can only be that the particular oligarch has decided that he wants to see some soccer games and that his subjects should pay for that.Jun 02nd, 2014 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I just did a quick scan of the Brazilian media and I can see no mention of this junket. Also I've just asked a couple of Brazilian colleagues about the mentioned 2012 visit. They know nothing about any of this. So, if the purpose of the junket is to somehow represent the UK in some manner, it is singularly ineffective.
Chill, you party pooper!Jun 02nd, 2014 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Brazil are about to throw the biggest party in their modern history. Support them, be happy for them!
Why the hell shouldn't an eligible young bachelor attend.
Your reading too much into it.
Good on yer Harry.
Nice bit of R&R.
@10Jun 02nd, 2014 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
just one of the few
Ah she's just an envious party pooper, who is a little upset, understandable given our shared history. That a UK Army attack helicopter pilot, who just happens to be young, good looking, rich and worst of all a British Royal is being hosted by the Brazilians.Jun 02nd, 2014 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Bloody hell, from what I saw of his last visit, they could not wait to welcome him back.
Another thing, with all the bad press, uncertainty and worry the Brazilians have had over the WC, they must be thanking who ever it is that is responsible, for is his visit.
Great PR for the competition, they could not buy it if they tried.
I personally and I hate football, wish them, apart from that knobhead Brassileo, the best wishes and luck in in their endeavours.
How is britain a theocracy?Jun 02nd, 2014 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
1 .... 2..... 3...... It's a provocation !!! England sending a royal soldier to Brazil !!!! He has nuclear weapons with him !!! It's militarising the South Atlantic !!! He personally sank the Belgrano !!!! It's a neo liberal plot !!!Jun 02nd, 2014 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
He's Menem's son and has come to start a coup !!!
I hope he is going to be properly protected (no pun intended), from what I here these Brazilian girls can be rather forceful!Jun 02nd, 2014 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Poor lad, I feel for him, I truly do. I do not know how on earth he is going to cope.
No amount of strenuous military training could possibly prepare him for the arduous mission he is about to undertake. Finest traditions of the service and all that.
I feel a meddle coming on for him here, oops, sorry, that should be medal!
14 BensonJun 02nd, 2014 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Theocracy ? ? ?
I was wondering the same thing.
How is Prince Harry a Royal Oligarch ???
Chucklety chuck chuck chuck...
I think he is using it in the Bolshevik sense of the word.Jun 02nd, 2014 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Wow, they really are behind the times aren't they? and and I thought they possessed televisions.
Are they in for a nice surprise when they eventually arrive.
They have no idea what they have been missing!
#10Jun 02nd, 2014 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
singularly ineffective. As are your postings.
He would only meet IMPORTANT people, so that's you out in the cold.
Theocracy is a form of government in which a deity is officially recognized as the civil Ruler and official policy is governed by officials regarded as divinely guided, or is pursuant to the doctrine of a particular religion or religious group.
Fails on this count
noun, plural oligarchies.
a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few.
a state or organization so ruled.
the persons or class so ruling.
Fails on this count also.
Keep up your track record of failure....always worth a laugh.
Uhhh! We miss the visit of the king of the play boys.Jun 02nd, 2014 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
He eludes us, not just the that idiot does not visit us!
Bachelet take care, because this kid does not do anything disgusting!
@16Jun 02nd, 2014 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Aye, the birds'll be tryin to pull the balls oot o his troosers!
Be beatin them aff wi a stick!
Josey, what country are you in then? Are you slighted because he is not coming? Or does it elude you? Lol!Jun 02nd, 2014 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@10. Don't you worry, Hepatitis. The girlies will be out with their legs spread hoping for a little bit of royal seed. Harry's pretty good at spraying it around. No need for you to be concerned, Hepatitis, I doubt he'd want anything to do with a disease-raddled old witch. Perhaps you could get together with Jose @20. He's desperate.Jun 02nd, 2014 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@20 See how I'm doing my best for you. Trying to find you a proper raddled slag. Of course, there's no guarantee that Hepatia is female. Wouldn't make any difference to you, would it? Bet you love a good shagging, no matter who you get it from. Sure you prefer plastic. Harder and good for hours!
Apparently CFK is raging at this,Jun 02nd, 2014 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
she desperately wanted her photo take with a real prince,
sadly, this Barbie doll will have to stick with ACTION MAN.
Alias the tin man..
Prince Harry. Fuckin Legend!Jun 02nd, 2014 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I guarantee he will be worshipped across every Republic.
Did he felt he needed an excuse to watch the footies?Jun 02nd, 2014 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
NEWS.Jun 03rd, 2014 - 01:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Man goes on holiday.
non-newsJun 03rd, 2014 - 03:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
- Trolls are jealous of the attention
2014 isn't it?Jun 03rd, 2014 - 03:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
#29Jun 03rd, 2014 - 07:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
While a constitutional monarch may seem to be anachronism there are numerous advantages to having a non-political head of state.
We could take a pragmatic view and see how well constitutional monarchies scored according to various metrics. The Democracy Index reveals that 7 of the 10 highest scorers are constitutional monarchies, while 6 out of the 10 highest HDIs scorers are constitutional monarchies.
2014 isn't it?
Given the way Argentina acts towards the Falkland Islanders you wouldn't think so, much more reminiscent of 19th Century colonialism.
Is it just a coincidence that this visit was arranged to coincide with the football World cup? I suspect not. I wonder who pays for all the airfares and the world cup tickets - the British taxpayer I assume!Jun 03rd, 2014 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Honestly, your visit is not welcome, your majesty.Jun 03rd, 2014 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
He's a prince Brasileiro, not a king.Jun 03rd, 2014 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Get your titles right.
And he is obviously welcome as he will soon be in Brazil and then Chile.
Considering how much friendlier the UK is to Brazil compared to countries such as Argentina, it is a wonder you don't scorn Cristina every time she visits.
You seem to have this illusion and vision that Brazil is on the way to being some great power and yet you yourself are so parochial.
31 DevolvedJun 03rd, 2014 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Is it just a coincidence that this visit was arranged to coincide with the football World cup? I suspect not. I wonder who pays for all the airfares and the world cup tickets - the British taxpayer I assume!
I assume - so you don 't know for sure, right?
Great move by the British Government - a Goodwill visit by a very popular Prince, just when all the attention of the world is on Brazil and South America.
Ironic for disapproving you and other SA Trolls, Harry is welcomed by Brazil (and Chile) as a distinguished visitor adding prestige to their moment of glory on the world stage.
Conspicuous is the SA neighbour directly between Brazil and Chile whom he did NOT visit - Argentina.
How dare he snub CFK - oh, right, she's not supposed to care for such a representative of British Colonialism and Imperialism. Harry's uncle, Prince Andrew, was an active member of the RN task force against Argentina during the Falklands Liberation.
And yet... both her BFF's , Bachalet and Rousseff, will have their picture with British Royalty, and chummy moments with him to show their children and Grandkids.
Ha ha ha ... bitter, jealous, Trolls.
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@34Jun 03rd, 2014 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Really sad I must break your heart again, but not one single person in Argentina cares about him visiting or not.
In fact isn't this the umpteenth time in the last decade a UK figure goes to Brazil, Uruguay, Chile, or Peru? It's obvious what they are trying to do, and it has failed miserably as it has not been the end of the world in Argentina.
I know it's difficult to believe but you don't matter, at the end of the day, and the complete innocuousness of this Anglo behavior is practical proof.
WTF would an Argentine have anything to say about him visiting Chile and Brazil anyway?Jun 03rd, 2014 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
It's SFA to do with you! He has a passport he can travel wherever he likes.
Live with it.
33 AnglotinoJun 03rd, 2014 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You're probably the last person in this website who still thinks that Brasileiro is brazilian.
He is just an argie troll who barely speaks portuguese. I've tested him before.
And I agree, UK is much friendlier to Brasil than Argentina. Everyone in Brasil and in the Brazilian government knows it. It's definitely not an enemy or rival, unlike Argentina.
@36 not one single person in Argentina cares about him visiting or not. There you go again. You really do not know your own country at all.Jun 03rd, 2014 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
There are many people I have met with in Argentina that are pretty obsessed with our Royal Family. It is something that almost always comes into conversation.
Tell me again, how many Argentines tuned into the Royal Wedding? Remember CFK throwing a tantrum about it? No? I wonder where you really live, TTT.
We think more people in Argentina and brazil likes the brits a lot more than these trolls would like to believe..Jun 03rd, 2014 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Definitely true that the British are vastly popular and welcomed in most of Latin America.Jun 03rd, 2014 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I speak from experience.
#36Jun 03rd, 2014 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
It's obvious what they are trying to do, and it has failed miserably as it has not been the end of the world in Argentina.
It's not obvious to me...pray elucidate.
@39 ElaineB- That's true. Some are very interested. Although they need to start getting their names right. I had an argument with someone who insisted the Queens name was Isabel. Still don't know who Carlos is either..!Jun 03rd, 2014 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@41Jun 03rd, 2014 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The English here in Brazil are seen as people who want to take advantage of everything, like cheat, steal land and money launderers.
The English are perceived.
@44 No they don't. You are just being silly.Jun 03rd, 2014 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I am watching a documentary at this very moment about life in Rio's drug-trafficking, gang-controlled favelas. Very interesting it is too. I in 5 people in Brazil live in the favelas. It is told from the point of view of individuals living there and how the communities work. They are very enterprising.
@45Jun 03rd, 2014 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You do not tell the truth. You show your source?.
46 BrazzieroJun 03rd, 2014 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Drug smuggler aircraft shot down
Slave Nation Brazil
Brazil provides children for sex tourism
Favela Wars - Brazils urban kill zones
Brazils sex slaves
Euro report - Brazil battles sex tourism
@46 A documentary on the BBC. Three parts. I am sure you can download it if you want.Jun 03rd, 2014 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Interesting how the police are dealing with the protests. They use tear gas and rubber bullets in the Asphalt (developed area) and real bullets in the Favelas. Nine dead in one night in one raid in one favela.
48 ElaineBJun 03rd, 2014 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
We covered exactly the same ground with Brassiero, three weeks ago,
- with links !
he's back on here spewing the same nonsense and denying everything we showed him before, as if it never happened !!
Brassiere is just a propaganda conduit - discrediting Argentina-declared enemies...
ignore ignore ignore...
@49 I don't take him seriously at all. Who would?Jun 03rd, 2014 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@50 Show me the link.Jun 03rd, 2014 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
RicagpJun 03rd, 2014 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
If Brasileiro isn't Brazilian and pretends to be that makes him and Brazil look bad.
If Brasileiro is Brazilian, then that makes him and Brazil look bad.
I don't see a difference so far.
There is one guarantee though, only one of the people that use the login speaks English fluently. But he is the infrequent user, probably because his English skills enable him to actually work somewhere else. Unlike the usual guy using the login.
And does anyone notice that the Argentinean that bleats the loudest and most prolific when someone doesn't visit or snubs Argentina is Nostrils?
If he had such a low care factor then surely the article wouldn't even rate a comment.
Thousands of happy Brazilians living in London and all across the UK.Jun 03rd, 2014 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Why is this?
350.000 North Americans from USA living in Brazil.Jun 03rd, 2014 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
50.000 Canadians living in Brazil.
60.000 English living in Brazil.
18.000 Scots living in Brazil
Others Anglos are 1.380.000 ( Indians, Afros, Middle Orient).
Why is this?
Ummm.... because it is cheap?Jun 03rd, 2014 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Think about that for a while. .. You might figure out something. ...
@48Jun 04th, 2014 - 02:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
It sounds like the same doco I have been watching on SBS3 here in Australia. It's called Welcome to Rio. I tried to get it on YouTube but this is what came up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCGxzkPIv4k
@54Jun 04th, 2014 - 06:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Office for National Statistics estimates suggest that there were 60,000 Brazilian-born people resident in the UK in 2009.
Several estimates of the current Brazilian population in the UK put the number at around 200,000.
Why is this ?
@54 Living it up in the asphalt, not the favelas.Jun 04th, 2014 - 07:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
I don't post links but someone spending as much time as you do watching videos on the internet can surely find the BBC website. It really is a very enlightening series of documentaries. Filmed in and narrated by people from the favelas. It is sympathetic to their situation but no one could deny they are scrapping by and have a short life expectancy.
@54Jun 04th, 2014 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Mucho football and hot women.....what other reasons do you need?
@59 Very good point!Jun 05th, 2014 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
He is a GREAT ambassador for the UK as his recent visit down under showed. Jun 05th, 2014 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
says imbecile #1
prince harry, the buffalo killer
Prince Harry 'kills innocent Afghans while he is drunk'
great ambassador my ass
Your arse would make a better ambassador than your brain.Jun 05th, 2014 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Must be difficult to be so pitifully powerless to do anything.
Harry will have a lot of fun in Brazil and Chile and will further deepen the relationship between those two countries and the UK.
The fact this seems to upset Aregneintenas is just an added bonus I guess.
#61Jun 05th, 2014 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
He shot a buffalo 10 years ago . I see you keep up with current affairs !
The ranch was owned by Count Claudio Zichy-Thyssen, one of the country’s most powerful landowners with more than 170,000 acres stocked with game. Located in ARGENTINA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Water buffalo are rather tasty - I tried it in South Africa.
I presume the Count...also shoots some of the game in his estate, so , again, what is your problem .
Or is it OK for Argentineans to shoot game. Totally hypocritical, as usual.
“Prince Harry 'kills innocent Afghans while he is drunk'”
I presume you were with him and breathalysed him when this alleged incident happened ?
63Jun 05th, 2014 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
...Located in ARGENTINA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
exactly, the little crap killed OUR water buffaloes.
next time let´s expect our water buffaloes give the tw@t what he deserves.
what could you expect from an asshole who is drunk 24 hours a day anyway?
your beloved twat compared killing people with playing video games.
is that a good ambassador for you, imbecile x 100.
64 niñoJun 05th, 2014 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
you are so funny, little niño !
chortle chortle chortle...
#64Jun 05th, 2014 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
what could you expect from an asshole who is drunk 24 hours a day anyway?
That rather sounds like you the way you are foaming at the mouth.
He was invited to your miserable country so he sublimated his urge to take out a few of the populace by shooting a water buffalo instead.
You should be grateful !
If you knew anything about how Apache helicopters worked, you would see that what he says is correct. You don't look out the window to see at what you are shooting. You look at a monitor screen full of target details distance , angles, weapons chosen and availability. Cursors mark the target and then you fire. Exactly like a video game.
Much better than spraying the area with cannon fire hoping to hit something.
Of course as someone who admires the Taliban you would disapprove.
These noble fighters who kill children for wanting to go to school, leaving car bombs in markets to murder scores of women and children.
They deserve your support and sympathy.
66Jun 05th, 2014 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
you are not the brightest here, are you?
the little crap killed our water buffaloes before his call to protect wildlife.
and who is talking about talibans, you dumbass?
the little crap killed civilians, women and kids with his helicopter.
not a surprise being drunk 24/7
NOBODY in Argentina cares about the prince's visit? Is that like the other trolls said...Argentines don't like...pickles, pork, cilantro... Do you guys even have a working brain? Do you know what jamon crudo is made from??? Or chorizo?Jun 05th, 2014 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
68Jun 05th, 2014 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
and who the fuck could care about the little twat´s visit?
only a pair of viejas gordas and the hola magazine perhaps.
if you want a good ambassador for england or the british islands or the uk or whatever is the name of that country, i would suggest a person like jonny wilkinson.
at least he has been great on and off the pitch and has never killed anyone.
69 crying niñoJun 05th, 2014 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
and who the fuck could care about the little twat´s visit?
only a pair of viejas gordas and the hola magazine perhaps.
Obviously, YOU do - how many posts have you put up now, for a non-event???
I think you are extremely jealous
Yeah he seems to be really annoyed for someone that doesn't care.Jun 05th, 2014 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I love it.
They always make the most fuss about the things they claim to care the least about.Jun 05th, 2014 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Classic insecurity complex.
luckily we had the pleasure of being visited by many british worthwhile, the english female hockey team, the english, welsh and scottish rugby teams, a lot of musicians, tennis and polo players, etc.Jun 06th, 2014 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
the kind of people that you will never see in the islets.
now, what are the skills, charms, aptitudes, etc of this little twat?
none, zero, nil, nothing, cero nada, ninguna.
his main features are: being a hopeless drunk and being a parasite.
clearly something you islanders admire too much.
Sure, PabloJun 06th, 2014 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Laffing at you.
jealous jealous jealous...
Paulce...since no Argentines ever assisted (fought) in the two world wars for the freedoms they enjoy today, I can understand why you would not understand what being a soldier is. On this, the 70th anniversary of D-Day, maybe you should give some thought to that. Thousands of Canadian, British and American forces died on just that one day....for FREEDOM. For the World. Something you don't seem to understand.Jun 06th, 2014 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
75 mendoza (??) CanadianJun 06th, 2014 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
what do you know about history?
4000 argentinians helped the british to save their asses.
and what war for freedom are you talking about?
probably you are the kind of ignorant who thinks that churchill was some kind of saint.
on the other hand the same churchill was the one who wanted argentina to remain neutral, so the argentine merchant ships were not going to be attacked by the germans.
millions of tons of food were delivered from argentina to the uk, and as always, the british did not pay a shite.
we are still waiting for them to honor their debt.
You want to be paid for your minimal sacrifice? Typical. Guess you have been brainwashed by the new Secretary of Thinking...have you paid for the damage and costs of your invasion of the Falklands? 44,893 Canadians died in the second world war.Jun 06th, 2014 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
44,893 Canadians died in the second world war.Jun 06th, 2014 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
it was your war, not our war.
again, you must be the typical brainwashed ignorant who thinks it was a war between the good boys and the bad boys.
both britain and germany were the same shite.
the same with churchill and hitler.
hitler did exactly what churchill and britain had done some years before.
so you have the nazi concentration camps during ww2, and the british concentrtation camps during the boer wars.
the nazi genocides and the british genocide in ireland.
massive bombings by the nazi, and massive bombings by the british in dresden etc, all of that after germany was already defeated.
same shite, different smell.
Oh yes, I forgot...you invited the Nazi's to come and live here. You sure you are not Iranian?Jun 06th, 2014 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@78Jun 06th, 2014 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You know so much about it you could write a book on shite.
It may sell but will most likely be a stinker......Boom boom!
79-80Jun 06th, 2014 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
where the f*ck did you both study history?
at the falklands islets university?
or is it puerto stanley university?
Ok everyone. Let's bring this to a conclusion.Jun 06th, 2014 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
No one here gives a toss what paulie shed ron thinks.
Am I right?
82 ms ilsenJun 06th, 2014 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
do you need the support of the other ignorant 3rd class plebs for not feeling insecure?
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/06/02/prince-harry-will-be-visiting-brazil-and-chile-for-the-first-time-later-this-month#comment330698: This is a bizarre re-write of history.Jun 07th, 2014 - 01:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
The main war aim of the Entente powers in WWI was the preservation and possible expansion of their empires. That is they fought for the right to enslave the colonial people. In no way can this be recast as a fight for freedom.
It was the US, on its entry into the war, that provided what would become the defining war aim - democracy. The problem was that, leaving aside the colonies, that neither the Russian Empire or the UK were democratic. The only country that might be considered democratic was the French Republic.
At the start of WWII the Soviet Union was not free and freedom could not have been one of its war aims. Likewise the UK enslaved many hundreds of million people around the world and cannot have been fighting for freedom either. The only country to which this war aim could possibly be attributed to was the US.
Yeah because all those African-Americans could vote back then.Jun 07th, 2014 - 04:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Democracy meant different things back then. However some countries were clearly more democratic than others.
I'm stumped on how the French were more democratic than the UK with all their colonies as well.
PaulJun 07th, 2014 - 06:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Your imbelicilic rants are hilarious. Clearly the result of a psychological flaw and deep-rooted jealousy....but absolutely hilarious.
Keep them coming.
#84Jun 07th, 2014 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
An interesting but rather twisted slant on history.
Yes, the USA was a democracy IF you were white. The black population had very little say in government. It was only because of the desegregation movements in the 1960's that blacks in the south could vote without fear of being lynched.
To say that the USA entered WW1 as an altruistic act to promote democracy is disingenuous.
It was an act of self interest and protection.
The Zimmerman telegram was the defining tipping point.
We intend to begin on the first of February unrestricted submarine warfare. We shall endeavor in spite of this to keep the United States of America neutral. In the event of this not succeeding, we make Mexico a proposal of alliance on the following basis: make war together, make peace together, generous financial support and an understanding on our part that Mexico is to reconquer the lost territory in Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona. The settlement in detail is left to you. You will inform the President of the above most secretly as soon as the outbreak of war with the United States of America is certain and add the suggestion that he should, on his own initiative, invite Japan to immediate adherence and at the same time mediate between Japan and ourselves. Please call the President's attention to the fact that the ruthless employment of our submarines now offers the prospect of compelling England in a few months to make peace. Signed, ZIMMERMANN
How could America acquire Hawaii against the wishes of the native population.....by the process of flooding the islands with immigrants and deposing the Queen.
French democratic ?
Colonies subjugated in Algeria, Morocco, Tunisa , Indo China, tracts of Africa, Caribbean , South Seas ?
Voting permitted but NOT for independence from France.
How is this democracy ?
His 1st visit to Brazil? I think not folks LOLJun 07th, 2014 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/06/02/prince-harry-will-be-visiting-brazil-and-chile-for-the-first-time-later-this-month#comment330812: I take it from your post the phase, leaving aside the colonies, has no meaning for you. The truth is that if the colonies are considered then no European country could be considered democratic. But the truth is that those sentiments given in the 14 point speech that may have lead to decolonization where only applied by the US to Europe. This was a serious strategic mistake on the part of the US and which, along with continued US stupidity, ultimately to Vietnam and even Iraq - among other disasters.Jun 08th, 2014 - 12:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
I appreciate your point about African-American voters, although I should point out that many could and did vote. But the key point is that the US and, to a lesser extent, France were doctrinaire democratic nations. The UK was not then and is not now. This problem of the lack of democracy was partially recognized at the time by the UK government itself and the Premier promised that if the country would continue fighting a system of almost universal male suffrage would be introduced. Unfortunately the British population did not view this 'blood for rights' equation with the disdain it deserved and executed their very own 'American Revolution' in the UK to sweep the whole rotten system away. As a result universal suffrage, as we would understand it, was implemented only after WWII and then, only for the HoR.
#89Jun 08th, 2014 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
OK, I'll fall for it. Explain why Britain is undemocratic.
HoR?Jun 08th, 2014 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@89Jun 08th, 2014 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
US - The fact is that in the US full enfranchisement of citizens was not secured until the Voting Rights Act of 1965.
UK - In 1928 all women and men over 21 now have the vote.
The Representation of the People Act of 1948 the main purpose of which was to tidy clean up the system - very democratic don't you think.
France - 1944 women were allowed to vote.
Argentina - 1947 women were allowed to vote.
In the 2012 Democracy Index, the UK is rated as a full democracy (so is Uruguay). Argentina is rated as a flawed democracy.
Thanks Leiard.Jun 08th, 2014 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You just saved me a post.
Interestingly Switzerland didn't give women the Vote until the 1970s.
New Zealand was the first country in the world to do so.
#92Jun 08th, 2014 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Thank you for this but I knew these facts. I was just waiting for Hepatia to explain her reasons for saying Britain was not a democracy.
And we are still waiting for Hepatitis to explain. ...Jun 08th, 2014 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I have still not seen any mention of this visit in the Brazilian media. Could it be a non event in Brazil? Certainly, if I were a British tax payer I would be objecting over paying for this junket for an oligarch.Jun 10th, 2014 - 12:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
96 HepatiaJun 10th, 2014 - 06:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Can you explain your false statement that UK is not a democracy??
Ha ha, what a liar you are - again!!!
@97Jun 10th, 2014 - 07:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Hepatia uses terms like democracy, oligarchy and plurality without any understanding of their true meanings.
Perhaps he would like to try using Kleptocracy and it's link with Argentina and the Kirchner's (US$ 1 billion that went missing from the public purse of Santa Cruz)
#96Jun 10th, 2014 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
I am still awaiting a reply to my question at #90. I can only assume that you don't have one,
I am a British taxpayer and it doesn't bother me.
Your use of the word oligarch is rather fanciful ...I presume English is not your first language.
I have still not seen any mention of this visit in the Brazilian media.Jun 10th, 2014 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
This is the Hepatia that believes that all child prostitution in Brazil is only because of foreign tourists.
So she obviously has no clue about Brazil.