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Massive demonstration in support of prosecutor suspended for investigating Kirchner family dealings
An Argentine prosecutor who was suspended for 'ill performance' in his investigation into the dealings of one of President Cristina Fernandez close business associates, received a massive support Wednesday evening from demonstrators who marched in downtown Buenos Aires to the Attorney General's Office. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesCFK is not very popular is she?
Jun 19th, 2014 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Word of advice for RG lawyers.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you get asked to conduct an investigation into anything connected with the K's,
Pack your bags and leave.
I have to say that it was quite large and impressive to see. The people that hate this women and her minons is very large. This the SCOTUS ruling and the World Cup is the only things on the the news here. They will be crazy to remove him but also have no choice. Her charges will come with the new government......by then she will be living in Cuba or Veneuela.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0I agree with this. This is no time to be investigating anything. Argentina is under attack by the international community.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0We should take the example of the other countries of the world, for example the UK and USA, which have conducted a grand total of zero investigations into Tony Blair and George W. Bush for their deliberate criminal activity and lies in order to pursue war.
@4 Why are you not in bed? Don't you have work/school to go to in the morning?
Jun 19th, 2014 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0@3 You are right, she will have to leave office before there is a full investigation. There will be one and the next government will most likely be elected on the promise of one.
Unfortunately for CFK, her health problems rather rule out Venezuela and Cuba. They are exacerbated by the climate there. Her doctors insisted she leave Venezuela before Chavez's funeral for that reason. So, I am not sure where she will go.
Ah, but the truth slowly showing signs of out with. Argentina is slowly, but surely, coming under attack from within (correction at #4 above) and the masses need to rise up a little more and free the country before all around will chaos fall.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wow Nostrils is so manipulated by everyone that he thinks Argentina should be too.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0“...no time to be investigating anything. Argentina is under attack by the international community.”
There is ALWAYS time to investigate corruption. Using the excuse that other countries don't do something is PATHETIC.
No one is attacking Argentina. Argentina's chickens are coming home to roost.
Nostrils you are a VICTIM. Seems you enjoy your country being one too.
Elaine.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0I believe there is another spare room in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London.
She could go there.
Assange would throw himself into the arms of the Met within the week and beg them to send him to the US, probably offer to pay his own fare.
My guess is that CFK and her main lackeys will try and attempt a legal clause exonerating them from investigation and prosecution, whenever they are removed from office, or voted out.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0In the long run a Truth Commission will find them all guilty of corruption, and exceeding their authority.
I admire the efforts of Jose Maria Campagnoli and Jorge Lanata. Stay in there !
Truth Commission AKA Get out of jail free card!
Jun 19th, 2014 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0You all know how the Argentines love to have a villain responsible for all their problems. CFK would fit perfectly.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0When there is an investigation and trial she'll be found guilty, then her cronies will overrule and find her innocent. Later she'll be found guilty with a subsequent overruling.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Unfortunately this merry-go-round is how Argentine politicians avoid prison
@4
Jun 19th, 2014 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0You're pathologically incapable of recognising any fault with your paymasters.... *cough*.. i mean ”government'.... arent you? There's always somebody else to point to and, apparently, by doing so, granting yourself the ability to completely ignore the absolute rampant corruption going on under your very nose.
but you do have a point, even if is completely off-topic: Bush & Blair should both be in Gaol for a very long time.
All we are missing is a long blackout in BA, while it is nice and cold. That could be the spark that sets off the next wave of protests.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0If I were NML I would start threatening to seize the SOY and YPF O/G.
That should get CFK more worried that she already looks. All of these Ks look like someone hit them in the head with a 2x4.
@13 Indeed but I think TB suffers far more by being persona non grata in the UK. The place in history his ego craved is not the one he wanted. Shame. Have you read the diatribe against him in the media recently? The only thing missing is the ability to prove he actually broke a law. Morally he is already bankrupt.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0@14 The coldest day in BsAs so far this year.
Corruption at the highest level,
Jun 19th, 2014 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And her cohorts and bloggers will still follow her over the cliffs,
The old drag queen, Capinatich, just called Griesa impartial!
Jun 19th, 2014 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0These people are too stupid for words.
It is flabbergasting that they are making these idiotic statements in PUBLIC.
They are only making the “negotiation” more difficult on themselves.
Silly stupid people who aren't used to living by any rules and having no consequences to their actions.
@4 Argieland needs to be brought down. Not to its knees, but down on its belly with its face in the ordure where it belongs. “Under attack”? You ain't seen nothing. Adopt the argie stance. Take the crap argie goods and then refuse to pay. Abrogate every treaty with argieland. Isolate faggotland. Dig up the argie garbage in the Falklands and dump it in the ocean to be eaten. Dig up the argie mines, carefully, and return them to argieland. Low-level flights to ensure that argies can also “enjoy” their landmines. And, while waiting to have your legs, arms and dick (if any) blown off, it's only right that you should be able to listen to your “glorious leader” being arrested, imprisoned, having her ill-gotten gains seized and sentenced to 50 years. Mustn't miss EVERY argie being sentenced for war crimes. Life imprisonment, digging. 80% of grown foodstuffs seized. Get by. Suffer! At least 80% of the argie population is “surplus”.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW that last post was meant to say that he was NOT Impartial.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Too much reading in Spanish this AM
Kiciloff says that they will look to restructure the bonds under BA legislation.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Their lawyers then tell the court that they are not considering that option.
Jesus christ, are they completely moronic or what? Who the hell do they think the judge is going to believe. The monkey or the organ grinder? I think the lawyers need to tell the clients to STFU, because they are not helping their case at all.
On another tack, I that BA Herald is carrying an article attacking the judges competence and above all things, his religion!!!! A Christian Scientist or something like that.
Predictable I suppose, nothing worst than a sore loser.
If he had ruled for them, they would be comparing him to Solomon.
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20. That article is an embarrassment. Argentinians can't seem to grasp they lost, the ruling stands and their only out is to negotiate with NML.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If I were Griesa I would have told them that in a phone call and told them to F off.
It is not wise to anger a judge.
I am sure they will learn that the hard way.
The whole country suffers from arrested development. They've never grown up and learn to act responsibly.
And just like a teenager then need to be severely punished so they learn the lesson and it is not soon repeated.
The Dark Country doesn't even come close to the real description of the viperous nature of “this lot”.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I actually think that there may be a legal way out for them in this case.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am surprised their legal team haven't tumbled to it yet.
An insanity plea!
There is an abundance of evidence for all to see and all of it is all extremely well documented.
@ 23 reality check
Jun 19th, 2014 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BRILLIANT!
The mental picture this conjures up is hilarious.
21.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Right. Arrested development, for sure.
But we are a country with “Good People” ... Well, not, the right phrase would be: Argentina, a country with “Goodfellas”
@18
Jun 19th, 2014 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe, but before that I'm betting the UK will be blown to pieces by ISIS.
@21
It certainly won't be the USA tho.
NML is so shortsighted, one would think, but they are not. They were never interested in the money. They only goal is to destroy nations. Always has been, they are a particularly vile group.
Think about it... WHY would NML know less than our resident parrot yankeeboy the horse stall cleaner? (he lives in a shed within the estate of some New York mogul or something like that). Yankeeboy claims there are no funds at the BCRA. *If* that is so, if yankeeboy knows this, Singer and Co. MUST know this fact too.
In which case demanding full payment and forcing the country to default would make no sense, if they really just want the most money they can get as they claim, because in this scenario they would always see LESS money. And a whole new process of debt restructuring would take some years and the more time passes, the less likely they will see anything.
It would be in their interest to work something out, yet they refuse. Either they are really dumb or they are just interested in inflicting damage since they know they won't see the money.
On Argentina's side, declaring in plain and succinct terms they will not be able to make payment is somewhat intelligent, since there is an outside chance that it will bring the other bondholders, as well as governments and international institutions to put pressure on NML in the next week to avoid a default (an official default will not occur on June 30th but july 30th because according to law one has 30 days past due date to pay).
So Argentina is now probably betting the next 6 weeks can be used to “cook” Singer in world public opinion and paint him as the intransigent one. It is smart and it is the only strategy if Argentina wants to avoid default, which I think we should declare anyway and stop paying EVERYONE, FOREVER.
As long as CFK is in power, she'll continue to consider herself above the law, and send anyone who disputes this fact, into total ostracism. If the opposition gets in at the end of the year, she'd better pack her bags and get the hell out.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hold on good man it may be ove sooner than you think. There is ever more indications that the whore is thinking in dropping the towel and leave the crisis of the second semester on to someone else alleging capitalist greed, imperialist courts and vultures sabotaging her gov’t. I think the Peronist league will be wanting to leave her jump off the cliff at this hour.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We need to name streets after “Griesa” & “Singer” for preventing the peronists to take loans for 12 years and collapsing the peronist state
@28 I think you are on the money there. CFK is looking for a way out.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes she is.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Enter Milani and the auto coup.
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Jun 19th, 2014 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cant put in Milani, wait for the Assis blog article to see what he has to say and what the leakers in gov't are admitting. I think they are talking about anticipated elections at these hours in the Rosada.
All the lies they've been telling for the last decade are now coming back to bite them HARD.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hope they don't let her or her disgusting children leave the country.
They better start to get a handle on all the minions too.
Toby, IF BCRA has U$28B in cash do you really think tey'd have to let a tanker sit in Ugugay paying a HUGE daily penalty for a measly few million U$ payment?
Since you are smart enough to read between the lines
The answer is NO
They may have U$6B and that's being very generaous.
PLUS a big portion of that is owned to Int'l companies that were promised they could xfer it out in August.
I guess that won't be happening
BYE BYE Auto Mfgs
Then what?
This case will be a headache, and a nightmare. for CFK and her gang since 2016 onwards. They are trying to take advantage of the time while are ruling the country to slow down the justice.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let me tell you that in my last vacations in Argentina (year 2013) I went to El Chalten, a lovely and small town patagonia located 200/300 km far from El Calafate. in the province of Santa Cruz. There I saw a luxurious hotel that local people said was from CFK, by the way it was the only luxurious hotel in El Chalten, built and finished but with no commercial activity at all. Some months ago, reading about this investigation it appeared that CFK is “renting” it to some patagonian construction companies that have contracts with the national government. The thing is that not only the hotel is not functioning at all but also most of the rooms are permanently rented by these companies in a sort of installments..so this is simply a fund transference from the national budget to CFK account.
There is no way that she can scape from this..she will finished like Carlos Menem ended, as the first democratic president found guilty of corruption.
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Jun 19th, 2014 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Menem finished in a much better way than CFK is going to finish, he left gov’t and the system endured at least a year and a half more. I would wish that the opposition grew up some balls in these hours and openly call for her resignation like she did with DLR in December 2001.
She is completely incapable of how to manage the situation and doesn’t know what to do.
All the last movements of the last few months were aimed at convincing SCOUTUS to take the case or consult the US gov’t kicking the can down the road. I think that was the only real plan they ever had. Now its over
@33 Yeah, I tried to book into one of her hotels a couple of years back and it was 'full' out of season. The place was deserted.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I stayed in a lovely place though. Loved that part of Argentina.
Nostril/Tobes, we all feel sorry for you, your condition is so sad :-(
Jun 19th, 2014 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CabezaDura2,
Jun 19th, 2014 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is worse than what you think. The anticipated elections is a smoke screen. Things are far worse than what happened in 1989 or 2001 for that matter.
In early 2002, devaluation let us at least start creating new jobs. This time, that is not going to work.
They need to keep some sort of status-quo until they finish manipulating what little is left of the judicial system and settle on some agreements with their hidden (or not so hidden) business partners.
When a rat gets cornered, any way out is a good way out.
I said long ago be careful of cornered animals.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are dangerous.
Rats spring to mind.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 037
Jun 19th, 2014 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But dont forget that calling for Anticipated elections is a ultimate political defeat like what happaned to Alfonsin. Remember that Peronist will only follow the Kicillof and Kretina to the gates of the crypt but will not walk inside with them. And after she goes there is a huge power vacuum
Scioli, Massa and Macri and the rest are worried about what may be her crazy move further into abyss.
40.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes of course, I wish also that nothing that extreme happens but neither Scioli, Massa or Macri will be willing to handle the “hot piece of iron” if she resigns. So it really boils down to find another Duhalde ... and I don't think there is one available this time.
Anyway, the auto-coup has always been in the Ks arsenal. Like at war time, the last thing you want to use is a nuke, but times come when you have no other option.
In this case, the US supreme court decision not to take the case caught them off guard. I don't believe they seriously thought a SCOTUS ruling would favor Argentina, but they certainly expected some more time to finish “Operation Cleanup”.
Hold the “anticipated elections” idea on stand by for now Im not sure if she will leave like DLR or give a month or two for anticipated elections like Alfonsin did in the late 1980s... Wait for the Assis blog (if it is not attacked and hacked by the intelligence services again) to release what off the record comments are leaking in Balcarce 50 and Olivos.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She may also be throwing a fuss and end up paying and blaming everybody else. However she wont be able to govern as the way she likes if she chooses this path and that is what may push her to the first option
Peronism is a regime to control the country. Is basically the best way the corrupt leaders found to rule the country and become rich. Resigning or calling for anticipate ellections will accept that the country is out of their control. Doing this will send them to a political ostracism such a the UCR. So, they would never do taht, they cannot do that....the “political and economic order” of Argentina will be finished..this cannot be accepted by the political oligarchy...
Jun 19th, 2014 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One wonders if the Argie Turnips in here recieve therapy for their serious paranoia...
Jun 19th, 2014 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Auto Coup..........???”, “Anticipated Elections..........???”
What the heck are they speaking about???
Anyhow, focusing on the Lázaro Báez case..... He is no Calígula but he is, as we all know, an important piece in the corruption system in Argentina...
I'm sure he will fall..., and fall hard...
And now to the importan stuff...
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@4
Jun 19th, 2014 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are moves in Parliament to Impeach Tony Blair, so once again you are behind with events
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/483274/Calls-Tony-Blair-impeached-Sir-Peter-Tapsell
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/483274/Calls-Tony-Blair-impeached-Sir-Peter-Tapsell
@43 It's impossible for Peronism to be ostracized, they control too many people. All they need to keep control is to flex their muscles like in 75 and 89, they will cut payings to the police, the mafia and the trade unions gangsters, they will loot and shut down transport in the whole country then they will get people to vote whoever they want out of fear of civil war. There isn't any real alternative to Peronism anyway.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Check this
Jun 19th, 2014 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Para Consultora Oximoron, los 18 meses de distancia se imponen como una dificultosa eternidad. Inmanejable para el país quebrantado. Sometido a la próxima frivolidad de una campaña doble. Onerosa e interminable.
Según Oximoron la salida del laberinto sólo puede racionalizarse a partir del acuerdo político y económico. Entre el oficialismo deteriorado y los “opositores envueltos”. Entendimiento que Oximoron, por facilidad expresiva, prefiere denominar “Moncloa”. Para compartir, en materia de responsabilidad, las trascendentes decisiones que deben tomarse.
Mientras tanto, para Oximoron, debiera cancelarse la pedantería costosa de las PASO. Y adelantarse la elección presidencial.”
http://jorgeasismuletto.blogspot.com.ar/2014/06/estamos-butch-en-problemas.html
Wonder if the opposition is stupid to take part in the responsability for the unikely gov't missmanagement of the last 12 years.
CD
Jun 19th, 2014 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Respectfully, not EVERYBODY can run away.
Best to hold CFK, Kissoff, Capitsch etc. responsible before they blow town.
Not fair for the Opposition to be left holding the bag!
It depends if they leave to never come back again or not. They will only be able to be account after they have left office Im afraid
Jun 19th, 2014 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is there no justice? :-(
Jun 19th, 2014 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why, ask Campagnoli.... Justice will only come when the judges and prosecuters feel free again and know that the Ks are dead meat.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would only trust a Macri/UNEN gov't to take this people to court.
44.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've started therapy and taking Zoloft to recover from Cristina's last speech.
Ask Crissy for some Lithium, although she may not be able to spare any right now
Jun 19th, 2014 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:)
They just dont know what to do. Eveything that they seem to be doing is far too little far too late. They are doomed. Hopefully by December the opposition have grown a pair.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ Elaine “”“”Have you read the diatribe against him in the media recently?“””
Jun 19th, 2014 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ooo please link! :-)
53. That's exactly the reason why you can't get new laptop batteries in this country.
Jun 19th, 2014 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CD2 : By the time of the elections , the country will be in such a bad state economically that no one will want to form a govt , as the incoming administration, in trying to get the country to work , renegotiate the foreign debt and get the books into a semblance of balance , will have to be responsible for dismantling the huge welfare state built under the “modelo”and trying to bring this current crop of bastards to justice for theft , corruption , malfeasance and anything else you care to throw at them.
Jun 20th, 2014 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0No opposition politician can grow a pair that big in 14 months .
'Ta jodido el asunto ....
There are greedy, corrupt, incompetent, champagne socialist Governments all over the World. Argylands current rulers comes within this category.
Jun 20th, 2014 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0The whole “hotel” thing is just part of the money laundering schemes organized originally by Nestor K. It keeps going in circles around and around and finding all the cash is going to be one tough job. One wonders if it will ever be done. Thank god for Jorge Lanata..at least he has opened people's eyes to the massive web of corruption and theft in this country.
Jun 20th, 2014 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0BAD COMEDY.
Jun 20th, 2014 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Although i don't agree on mercopress's editorial line, i have always said that it's a serious website, due to most it's articles aren't partial. However this time, this article can't be more partial and shamefull. Anyway, i won't commit the stupid mistake of analizing a news with the pathetic doble standard, characteristic of our hegemonical press (clarín, la nación and perfil). Clarin presents campagnoli as a heroe who tried to investigate the soposed corruption of a kirchnerist bussiness man, but omits the other denounces against him, for having committed flagrant abuses in other causes, that's why he accused by the procuraduria.
It's well known that all those people who are accused of any delit, are inocent, untill justice shows the contrary, at the moment, campagnoli is inocent. However, the pathetic doble standard, can be seen in the shamefull manipulation that those corporate newspapers make in relation to the accusation against vicepresident boudou, they all have already considered that he is guilty, and the most pathetic of this situation, is that the same ridiculous politicians who support campagnoli, are the same who ask for boudous' renounce, it's evident that the doble standard of those cretins, doesn't let them see that at the moment, boudou isn't less inocent than campagnoli, due to justice hasn't shown yet that he used his influences, in order to get the ciccone factory. Beyond the empathy, or the rejection that anybody can feel for c. f. k's government, of for campagnoli., what we can't do, is to buy so easily the shamefull operations of any newspapers, otherwise, many people will continue to be missinformed, and it will be necesary to remind once and again, something so obvious like that everybody is inocent, untill justice shows the contrary.
Jesus christ holy Mary mother of god and all the saints!!!!
Jun 20th, 2014 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0HOW MANY MORE TIMES DOES SOMEONE HAVE TO POINT OUT ON HERE THAT THESE ARE NOT MERCOPRESS EDITORIALS. THEY ARE PICKED UP FROM OTHER EDITORIAL SOURCES AND POSTED ON HERE BY MERCOPRESS.
@61 LOL! Probably a few more times at least. I don't think they understand what a news agency is.
Jun 20th, 2014 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 061 Reality check -
Jun 20th, 2014 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You make a good point.
I do think that to avoid confusion, said articles should be source referenced at the top or bottom of the page. That would end grammatical errors or other problems being directed against Mercopress.
It would also be refreshing to know what country and what author created the news article, and which are objective and impartial.
Just a helpful suggestion.
60 Gave up half way through after nearly losing the will to live. Keep taking the tablets. I know I will after that.
Jun 21st, 2014 - 01:51 am - Link - Report abuse 060 A Aarrgh
Jun 21st, 2014 - 04:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0My stomach hurts - from laffing!!!!
Boudou - the K crook that got caught!
60.
Jun 21st, 2014 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0The use of paragraphs and capitals for Proper Nouns would make your rants a little more readable. Not much more, but not so many readers would give up after the first couple of sentences.
60. Axel remember me telling you at some point the Gov't won't be able to give you raises above inflation?
Jun 23rd, 2014 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How do you like getting a 25% raise when inflation is running 40% with food and medicine running 60%.
I hope you like the feeling of hunger pangs.
Silly Marxist has no idea.
He still thinks this collapse was caused by oligarchs and Sepoy.
idiot.
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