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Falklands very happy with their current status of British Overseas Territory
Falkland Islands representative Roger Edwards speaking before the UN Special Decolonization Committee recalled the Islands history and highlighted that the Falklands had British sovereignty since 1765, a time when Argentina did not exist as a sovereign nation. Read full article
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Jun 27th, 2014 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1 Oh, I don't know. How about reparations for the 1982 argie invasion? How about compensation to each Islander? How about removal of the argie corpses so the Islanders don't have to put up with argie “visitors”? How about compensation from argieland for every occasion that RAF Typhoons have to take off to warn off argie aircraft and every occasion that a RN vessel has to sail to warn off an argie vessel? In order to show “good faith”, is there any reason why argieland shouldn't pay for the British garrison? Perhaps argieland could despatch vessels regularly to South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands for target practice?
Jun 27th, 2014 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0And the C24's continual ignorance of the Islanders speeches justifies the complete ignorance and distain shown to the C24 by the UK.
Jun 27th, 2014 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0The islanders should remind the C24 every year exactly what their job is -after all that should please the Latam dominated C24 as it will be comforting that the islanders display the same sort of arrogance/distain shown by their South American neighbours-the difference is the islanders are backed up by a country that means business.
You british are so arrogants, you have no limits. So you examine the country members of the c24 and if you think the nations of those members have corruption or poverty they are not alowed to be members of the c24 or that somehow they are biased?. Do you think Argentina brives those nations or what?. Let me tell you that if you suggest that they are corruptable, it would be for sure the uk who would pay them.
Jun 27th, 2014 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The people who live on the islands are colonists. We have argentines that have been born in the antartic but nevertheless we dont claim self determination rights in the antartic for them. Its the same absurd you are claiming to the UN.
“We have argentines that have been born in the antartic ”
Jun 27th, 2014 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really?
What are their names?
FFF. You have argentines born in the Antarctic because you took pregnant woman, wives of officers, there, to give birth there!!!
Jun 27th, 2014 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for the UN, see you there next year, why don't you bring pregnant women there to give birth, you could claim the UN then. Now that really would solve all your problems!!!
Can't believe you lot never thought of it before.
Lib @ No:4 - What a pointless comment.
Jun 27th, 2014 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We British may at times be arrogant but at least we're not a total bunch of hypocrites. I mean come on, Argentines are colonists themselves! The land you stole and named Argentina, was colonised. Colonists crying about colonisation!
As for Argentina bribing other countries, I doubt anybody believes or claims that. You guys don't even have the money to pay your debts, let alone bribe anybody.
Get rid of the dummy and grow up you silly little child.
“International observers judged the referendum to be free, fair and transparent and in accordance with Falkland Islands law.”
Jun 27th, 2014 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- Noooo, a privately paid organization, funded by the British people living on the islands determined that nonsense.
“With a turnout of 92%, 99.8% of the voters exercised their right of self determination ”
- Noooo, there is no right to self determination for a planted people intentionally parked on disputed land.
Thats why the UN doesn't recognize them as a people. Because they're not.
99.8% of muggers decided through their imagined right to self determination that they should keep the wallet.
@4. British people can be arrogant - you are right - but so too can Argentinians. Don't you think it would be a sensible idea for some of the C24 members to pay a visit to the Falkland Islands and find out for themselves what the place is actually like. Give me a good reason why that wouldn't be a very sensible step forward before the next C24 meeting in 2015?
Jun 27th, 2014 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ Vestige
Jun 27th, 2014 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentines are not a people, just a mix and blend of Europeans who fled Europe and colonised then parked themselves on somebody else's land.
But hey, you guys know how to contact the ICJ. You did so over a pulp mill so I assume the papers regarding the Falklands are almost ready to be lodged? No? Why ever not!?
Hi I'm a nigerian and I would like to acknowledge the british territory of the falklands islands 1775 to 2014 and still going strong More grease to your elbow-as we say in nigeria
Jun 27th, 2014 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Vestige
Jun 27th, 2014 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you are found of stating that the Falkland Islands are not a country and the Falkland Islanders are not a people. Therefore could you please expalin to me why Argentina is naking a presentation to the C24 about the Falkland Islands when the full name of the c24 is “The Special Committee on the Situation with regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence of Colonial Countries and Peoples”.
If the FI are not a “country” (or colonial country) nor a “people” perhaps you ought to take your whinge elsewhere - the ICJ perhaps.
@4 If the Falkland Islanders are colonists then so are the Argentineans.
Jun 27th, 2014 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As far as Bett's argument goes Cristina herself is also an implant in Argentina, her grandparents were not born in Argentina.
Jun 27th, 2014 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Vestige
Jun 27th, 2014 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry but the UN general Assembly (not some pointless offshoot) has time and time and time again recognised the falkland islanders as a people, and agreed they have the right to self determination.
Liberato
there is no doubt that as of 2008, 40 countries supported Argentinas position (many are members of the C24), indeed 22 of the 40 were Latin countries.
However 62 countries supported the UK position, giving it a majority of the votes at the UNGA. Are you so arrogant that you wish to ignore a majority vote at the UNGA rather than a small snapshot of countries whos opinion is already known at the C24??
12 - simple. Because the seasonal occupants who live on those islands aspire for international recognition as a country and 'a people'.
Jun 27th, 2014 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And thats never going to happen.
Because all the world sees it for what it is.
G.Britain and Argentina need to talk bi-laterally and stop letting a hamlet population of nimby's with a back yard the size of northern Ireland get in the way.
There's nothing to discuss.
Jun 27th, 2014 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Vestige
Jun 27th, 2014 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unfortunately, G.Britain doesn't “need” to do anything thanks very much.
What it “will do” is ensure your lies, rhetoric, military invasion, and bullshit schemes NEVER displace the true owners of the islands (the inhabitants) from their homes.
And there aint a single solitary thing you can do about it.
No need to talk to anyone #16, especially you lot, the enemy. Britain fought you to a standstill to protect our Islands, sovereignty isn't negotiable. Many Islanders can trace their roots back more than 7 generations, longer than your country existed. The world that matters isn't interested. Sorry, you will just have to get used to it.
Jun 27th, 2014 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway your country is going down the tubes soon and the City Of London will make sure it does. You deserve punishment.
You - We demand that you hand over the Falkland Islands to us.
Jun 27th, 2014 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Us - No
Sorted.
@4 Liberato: “We have argentines that have been born in the antartic but nevertheless we dont claim self determination rights in the antartic for them.”
Jun 27th, 2014 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's because you are imperialists. The Spanish didn't claim self determination rights for their settlers around the river plate either.
Monkeymagic
Jun 27th, 2014 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unfortunately G.Britain's people do need to do something about it, its costing them.
The balance of GB's south American relations is, was, and will be consistently needlessly hobbled by 2500 seasonal occupants.
The islands are slowly withering, ageing with no growth.Argentina will see to it that it is never a proper country, at most a lonesome hamlet of pariahs.
And there aint a single solitary thing you can do about it.
22. You clearly don't understand the British psyche.
Jun 27th, 2014 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Relationships with S. America are fine thank you very much apart from with some insignificant shit heap that perpetually confuses ambition with ability.
23 - and you're the expert/spokesperson for the British collective psyche since .... ?
Jun 27th, 2014 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Same time as you became the spokesman for the “whole of the world”.
Jun 27th, 2014 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0hmm, evasive.
Jun 27th, 2014 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who cares Vestige, Ascot, Wimbledon, Glastonbury, Henley next week, TDF in Yorkshire quite soon. This stupid insignificant little LA sideshow doesnt even matter to us. Britain and the Falklands are peaceful pleasant and wealthy and getting wealthier. One day your country will get a competent government that wants our friendship and trade. Presently you are not even on our radar.
Jun 27th, 2014 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One day people in GB will ask wtf are we doing ??!!
Jun 27th, 2014 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like before, when they tried to wash their hands of the inconvenience islands.
Til then, you're a negative on GB's books, and a lonely pointless one.
One day people in GB will ask wtf are we doing???
Jun 27th, 2014 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's easy, laughing their asses off, watching the impotent RG's working themselves up into a lather over something they can never have.
B- on this one, must try harder for next year.
British and French forces train together
Jun 27th, 2014 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This exercise has been hugely successful in bringing all of these maturing relationships together to demonstrate how we would plan and operate as a joint force able to carry out complex operations anywhere in the world. Including the Falkland’s lol.
16 Air Assault Brigade and the French 11e Brigade Parachutists (11e BP) together to strengthen the close military co-operation between Britain and France.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/british-and-french-forces-train-together
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well they were in the 80's, and the 90's, by the 00's they were kinda nonchalant, in the 10's they're pretty unaware.
Jun 27th, 2014 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Internet is killing the red-top-tabloid-monkey subculture on which you rely.
Video killed the radio star..lolol
Jun 27th, 2014 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Vestige
Jun 27th, 2014 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And in the 20s we will become very very aware again.
When the Falkland Islanders are looking to invest their proceeds from 100,000 barrels of oil per day from just phase 1 of Sealion. Probably by the 30s, many of the UKs new large infrastructure projects like power stations, High speed rail etc etc won't be coming from china, but from islanders looking for safe investments.
Investment that could've been made in Argentina, if you hadn't been such a ridiculous cock...and dismissed them as “pariahs”
Poor Vestige...so clueless. Boom
#31
Jun 27th, 2014 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You will just have to accept the situation. You can come on here , produce spurious arguments , belittle the Falklanders at every turn, evince concern for the poor British taxpayer who really is not interested in the subject.
You obviously know nothing about the British and how we work.
I will speak for the British psyche, we are coming to the point where we hate your effing guts and will gladly do you down at any turn. Is that plain enough ? You have about as much chance of getting the Falklands as you have trying to put a teaspoon of melted butter up a wildcat's arsehole !
Finally, I agree with Vestige
Jun 27th, 2014 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina will see to it that it is never a proper country”
I agree vestige, Argentina is not a proper country, it is a corrupt cesspit of liars, cheats, filth and scum...but never mind...the Falkland Islanders are about to become the richest people on earth...just as Wrgentina bankrupts itself
The irony certainly ain't lost on me....
Hahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahah
#35 Mm
Jun 27th, 2014 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is a temporary concept.
Nothing to be bothered about.
Oh dear, oh dear, you must bear with Vestige, who is not very bright.
Jun 27th, 2014 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is demonstrated by his inability to comprehend, that when the Falkland Islands is on the agenda of a Committee whose task is “the Granting of Independence of Colonial Countries and Peoples” then either the Falkland Islands is a colonial country, or the Falkland Islanders are a people, or both.
Vestige is more to be pitied than censured.
Oh Monkey ...
Jun 28th, 2014 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.lse.co.uk/ShareChart.asp?sharechart=RKH&share=rockhopper
I expect the islands population will follow such a trajectory as they age with no replacements.
Lonely youth of the Malvinas....G.B has so much to offer you, why stay on such rugged wet windy islands, eternally virgins, no future there, nothing but sheep.
So few options. So boring.
Everyone is living it up back home in London. lol.
38 Vestige
Jun 28th, 2014 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0If this is a 'seasonal' population, then who the hell are you talking to?
Seriously, you're even contradicting yourself, you dumb eejit
One moment you're telling us all we're not really here for half the year. Then you're telling us we'd be better off in London. Well which is it?
Most people here under 40 have been to college or university in the UK, or worked there. You can't tell us anything about the UK that we don't know already.
As for 'eternally virgins', you should follow the news. We are about to need a new school there are so many children.
You're a poor sad case really, aren't you.
Vestige
Jun 28th, 2014 - 07:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why are you linking to the rockhopper share price? Which incidentally is 300% up in 4 years?
Premier oil are the operators of the Sealion field. Noble energy are the operators of the southern and eastern basins.
You seem very lost and very jealous. It's hilarious.
#38
Jun 28th, 2014 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lonely youth of the Malvinas....G.B has so much to offer you
I agree . Security from a rapacious bunch of mendacious twats.
Why don't the Falklanders want to be part of Argentina?
If they wanted to be part of Disneyland, they would go to the USA.
The Mickey Mouse economy actually works there ! Yours just supply the laughs.
So Vestige, those papers to the ICJ.. how they coming along?
Jun 28th, 2014 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0ICJ - or yet another meaningless, pointless stunt?
If a bunch of Argentine squatters can aspire for international recognition as a country and 'a people' then I see no reason why the Falklands should have any trouble going down the same path. After all, you're two peas in a pod. Both a “translated” population. Both colonised land. But only one hypocrite.
40 - wheres the oil boom. how many years of waffle is it now.
Jun 28th, 2014 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0a 300% increase ... from junk ... up to promising ... and steadily returning to junk again.
Ive seen the census for club-ded. You're slowly dying.
Why ? - because, they live in a tiny insular hamlet, in a place far too big for them, prisoners of their own colonial greed.
Living off the GB taxpayer, ruining Britains reputation in south America.
Funny, Think links to rockhopper whenever its down I wonder why both Vestige and Think choose to use that company?
Jun 28th, 2014 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Odd
Vestige, don't you live in the rugged windy Scotland? I thought you'd appreciate the beauty of the Falklands.
Some people like living remotely.
The Soverign wealth fund the Falklands is creating with the oil royalties and the infrastructure Noble et al are building will last generation whether or not there's huge amounts of oil that is recovered.
At the rate oil keep going up it gets more profitable every day.
I wonder why so many companies are knocking on the Falklands door yet nary un pesito for YPF and the mythical magical Vaca Muerte. I wonder why.
I can smell you jealously from here.
oh yes massive infrastructure.
Jun 28th, 2014 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Vestige
Jun 28th, 2014 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How many years of waffle?
Well, let's see. Since 2010 when the Ocean Guardian rig first arrived in the Falklands it's 4 years.
In that time there have been two major discoveries, one oil and one condensate.
The first one has had eight successful appraisals (the first 18 months of “waffle”) followed by a successful sale to Premier Oil who have committed to invest $3bn in development. The next “18 months of waffle”
In the last 12 months another rig has been licensed and a major US company has committed $300-500m of investment in the exploration and the islands infrastructure.
Premier are also close to making the FID and getting contractors on board to start development.
Now, a 300-500million barrel oil field needs lots of workers. When more is discovered yet more, engineers, drillers, geologists, business leaders, leading to a thriving environment to the retail and hospitality industries on the islands.
I know it will kill you to watch it, but sit back and get some popcorn.
You've waited 4 years...in another 4 years...production.
By the way, 8 years from discovery to first oil in an offshore development in a virgin basin is not unusual or unreasonable.
How funny though....because Argentina ripped up the oil agreements didn't it.
So none of these jobs will be Argentine....hahahahahahaha...so actually the ONLY chance of sovereignty is gone.
Had you sent your prettiest girls (of which Argentina has many), perhaps there may have been some geologist or engineering positions for them...who knows whether a few ”desperate (your words)” islanders may even had dated them.
Obviously there are no attractive Argentine men, unless grease, slime, dishonesty and bad hygiene is attractive.
“.in another 4 years...production”.
Jun 28th, 2014 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0is that right ?
#43
Jun 28th, 2014 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“prisoners of their own colonial greed.”
We want to replace it with OUR colonial greed.
Can't you get it into your head that the Islanders actually like living on their island. If they wanted city life they could have moved to the UK.
They certainly do not want the doubtful “advantages” of living in an Argentine state. Who in their right mind would. It's full of people like you-that would put anyone off.
47. Goofball, $300-500MM is MASSIVE for the size of the population. Are you just being stupid or trying to be funny?
Jun 28th, 2014 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think the former.
How's YPF doing? I hear Singer is knocking on Chevron et al and telling them not to send any more U$ to Arg. Rut Ro
What do you think will happen when YPF tries to export oil for refining? Or buy Nat Gas or Oil thru Enarsa
Want me to spell it out for you?
How much money exactly DID you lose in Argentina Yankee ?
Jun 28th, 2014 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Vestige, like Think, is nothing more than a neocolonialist hiding behind a phony identity; his granny also lives in Hull, apparently.
Jun 28th, 2014 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lololool
Jun 28th, 2014 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0my granny lives in hull and Im a Scotsman.
Je l'adore.
50. I made money while I was there. I owned +/- 20 properties in Capital Federal and GBA but I got really skittish when I saw double digit inflation and HUGE increase in violence so I sold everything and got out of there.
Jun 28th, 2014 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That was awhile ago and it is much much much worse now.
My friends that are left there are desperate to get out but it is impossible for them to come here legally.
Vest
Jun 29th, 2014 - 02:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm struggling to see where you're going with this one.
If it's so awful here and there are no young people. why don't you just wait a bit?
The last of us to leave (or die) can just turn out the lights and you can walk right in.
In the meantime you and your halfwit politicians could pipe down and spare the world from having to listen to their made-up poltroonery.
Just a thought.
Where vestige is going is up his own arsehole.
Jun 29th, 2014 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0He is trying to have us (the British) believe that the cost of defending the islanders (you) is too high.
This is based on the following lies:
1) the islands population is small and shrinking
2) the islanders are ungrateful
3) the defence costs the UK trade or relationships with the rest of Latam
Unfortunately, poor Vestige is so stupid that he thinks his arguments are relevant.
The islands population is no smaller than in 1982, when Britain committed vast resources and sadly 255 lives to the islanders defence. Britain is proud to, and will continue to defend the islanders in the face of scum like Vestige.
Secondly, there is no evidence whatsoever that a single trade deal with anyone in Latam outside of Argentina has ever been affected by the Falklands, indeed scant evidence suggests any trade deal with Argentina has been affected. Having worked in Brazil, from personal experience no Brazillian gives a crap.
As far as the burden to the UK taxpayer is concerned, it is insignificant today, and in the future will be irrelevant.
vestige would have us believe 1500 islanders are ruining our relationship with Latam....hahahahahah...it's not true....but even if it were, the fundamental rights of those islanders to live their lives in their homeland is a price worth paying.
Poor Vestige, bitter and thick....should probably change his name to “Think2”
£75 million per annum from GB for defense alone.
Jun 29th, 2014 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not to mention the damage to future GB trade, strong indoctrination/education of Argentine children on the issue.
GB and Argentina would be better off by combining a payment to pay you guys to leave the islands.
Another 10 years, that would be 750 million for defense alone.
£300,000 per person !!
Probably 1000 households there at the moment.
Would, £750,000 be enough to make you fk off back to blighty ?
A return to civilization, a free nice semi-d , a good car and your budget for a few years.
Maybe even a little pad on some warm costa in Spain.
Come to the dark side.
Theres cake.
@ 56 Vestige, don't waste your breath, we aint going anywhere, we are staying right here. Desire the Right.
Jun 29th, 2014 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#56
Jun 29th, 2014 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What GB trade with Argentina ? You are stony broke and will be going around with the begging bowl any day now.
We seem to be doing OK with the rest of Latam.
Argentina PAY for anything. Now that's a novel concept.
“strong indoctrination/education of Argentine children on the issue.”
That has already taken place.... look at you !!
We would be paying defense costs regardless of the Falklands BUT it does remind us WHY we are paying for defense. It's something worthwhile to keep you thieving scum in your place. It must be s-o-o sad for you that you cannot even launch a canoe or a kite !
Every time you post it just reminds us how much the UK annoys you.
All you can do is post drivel and the situation in the Falklands, Gibraltar and N.Ireland remains the same. It must really twist your gut thinking that there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.
However, freedom of speech rules. Keep on amusing us !
They yearn for the very things, they cannot have or entitled to,
Jun 29th, 2014 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0its either theirs , of they try to steal it.
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Jun 29th, 2014 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0....Et tu Clyde....
Defense....?....Defence....;-)
I'm going to keep a careful eye on you from now on.....
Anyone watch Metallica at Glastonbury...?...did they rock or what....
Vest
Jun 29th, 2014 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know who you think you're talking to.
There are two main types of people who live in the Falklands.
One is people who were born here, and therefore can't go 'back' to anywhere, and wouldn't want to anyway.
The other is people who used to live in a 'nice semi-d' and found it so dull and disliked the noise, crowds, pollution and general banality of the life you describe so that they came here looking for something better.
People who fit neither of these categories, and who wish to move away for a while, or forever, are free to come and go as they choose and do so already.
Nobody needs your help or advice to make the choices that are right for them.
£750,000 though. Would you take it? All you'd have to do is leave that little hamlet of Stanley.
Jun 29th, 2014 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My views aren't so extraordinary, GB tried something similar before to free itself of those few desiring the right to burden their home country.
I think such an offer will come along again some day.
Completely voluntary of course, all you'd have to do is walk away from the huge pile of cash.
What you mean like the Brits sending a task force 8. 000 miles to personally thank you for relieving them of their burden, is that the kind of extraordinary views your talking about?
Jun 29th, 2014 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well that happened also.
Jun 29th, 2014 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Doesn't erase the first fact however, GB saw it was a pointless costly colonial venture, offered cash in the short term to kill off long term costs.
Objectively the falklands, like NI, has been nothing but cost and trouble to GB, another failed venture. I dont see that as my opinion, the figures simply point to it.
Note I dont say the same about Gibraltar (re;cost), cause Ive seen no such indication.
What cam first, the chicken or the egg?
Jun 29th, 2014 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 062 Vestige
Jun 29th, 2014 - 11:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, I wouldn't.
I couldn't buy a house like mine for that amount of money in the UK, and I couldn't pursue my career there either.
Apart from that it's a fine idea.
Tin roofed sheds are pretty cheap in the UK.....
Jun 30th, 2014 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0...are you having a larrf.....
66 - what about the other ~999 households.
Jun 30th, 2014 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Democracy and all that.
750,000 for a vote. Not everyone is as minted as you.
GB - ARG bilateral trade was 1.4 billion dollars per annum according to a mercosur article. I think theres room for both countries to more than re-coup their investment over time.
http://en.mercopress.com/2012/02/21/argentina-uk-2011-bilateral-trade-totalled-1.4bn-dollars-could-suffer-malvinas-dispute-impact
But fck Britain ... ?? right ??
@68
Jun 30th, 2014 - 06:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is a good example of the calculus of the clueless. For this logic to hold, the political costs of appeasement would have to be outweighed by the economic gains of capitulation. You don't have to be Albert Einstein to work out that this is very, very far from being the case, althought this simple arithmetic is apparently bryond the capabilities of the present Argentine government.
Unless, of course, they are perfectly happy with the situation as it is. And why wouldn't they be? The way things are, averybody gains. The Falklands are.defended, the Uk is on the side of the angels, the Peronists have their external enemy, the only suckers in the whole business are the true blue Malvinista believers. The status quo. What's not to like?
Vestige has a point...Argentina could offer to buy the Falklands.
Jun 30th, 2014 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Shall we say $100bn USD...oh, but your skint aren't you?
Never mind...as far as the cost to the UK tax payer...it will all be returned Vestige...tick tock 4 years to oil.
Oh dear....
Britain is just as happy to pay for defence,
Jun 30th, 2014 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0as Argentina is happy no to, [ being broke we mean.lol]
$100bn .... you overestimate the value placed on the islands (and their maybe maybe not oil) by a factor of maybe .... hmm ... 100.
Jun 30th, 2014 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#60
Jun 30th, 2014 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I just preferred the American spelling in this case.
By the way, I met Peter Baxter on 1 June and asked him if he knew you.
I gave him all the information you have told us about yourself and he said that it did not ring any bells and could not think who it could be.
No comment.
#72
So you say that the islands are of zero value. Why are you so interested in stealing them ?
is this another crumb hunt ?
Jun 30th, 2014 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“maybe” = crumb denied again.
he who lives by pedantry.
(and their maybe maybe not oil)
Jun 30th, 2014 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah, but if there is, we bet you would change ones mind.
After all, who's would it be, the islanders or Argentina's, in your mind..
Think
Jun 30th, 2014 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your fixation with languages amuses me and proves nothing except that you're of a certain age and you haven't lived abroad for any length of time. Increasingly schools, especially international schools, are accepting any form of English. Any school following the IB curriculum will definitely happily accept American or UK English and even teach both.
You're living in the past old man. Get off the computer and go and talk to your grandkids while they still know who you are.
73
Jul 01st, 2014 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Did you Clyde, did you really...? How on earth did you broach the subject...?
I was chatting to him only the other week and I couldn't think of a way of mentioning you without appearing like an idiot....
Ermm..there's this guy on the internet.....see what I mean...?
...was he in his favourite casuals...light blue denim shirt and jeans, was he carrying a camera in a pouch on his hip...as he always does...?
Did he tell you about his little pet project in the Botanic Gardens and show you pics on the camera...the oak traditional timberframe they are building on the hill....
...had to bring the oak up from England....
...being handcrafted by a guy from Ardentinny...
...if not ask him about it....;-)
...or see it yourself...he said you can see it from the Glen Massan road a little beyond the Golden gates.....
...you gotta believe Peter Pan...believe....;-)
#77
Jul 01st, 2014 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0“How on earth did you broach the subject.”
Simple, I met him in the courtyard and all I did was ask him if he knew you from the information you have supplied about yourself. He said no. Why would this be ?
I don't have a denim shirt or jeans.
I don't carry a camera in a bag on my hip. I use a small Nikon 5000 about the size of a mobile phone
The description also does not fit Peter Baxter on that day. He was wearing his waterproof jacket as per usual. We talked about the latest improvements at Benmore INCLUDING the new shelter on the Chilean hillside -I presume this is to what you are referring and the lack of funding for the new visitor centre. We saw it when we had a conducted tour earlier in the year..he had to rush off to get a jar of midge cream as he had been eaten alive
Remember a few months back when you all but called me a liar when I said that I had visited the gardens in February with the friend's group and that the tea room was open. You said that the tearoom was not open at that time of year, that you were going to check and that “I had better be right”
You never replied on that one---why was that ? Was it because I was right and you would have had to make a climb down ?
I know P.B. well enough to talk to him on a friendly basis but that is as far as it goes.
When you see Peter Baxter again, ask him if he knows someone from Ayr, about 72, a member of the Scottish Rock Garden Club who is interested in Rhododendrons and likes photographing them. Ask him if he can remember giving a talk on his trips to Tasmania and Japan at Ayr and on member's day at Benmore a few years back.. He is also a friend of Robert Unwin who was on the Tasmanian trip - his father was curator at Logan gardens.
Why all the secret squirrel stuff ? What have you to hide. I am not really interested in your name or your address and would not publish it even if I knew it.
It's just that I get fed-up with Mr Invisible calling me a liar while hiding in the dark.
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Jul 01st, 2014 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are the one secret squirreling....
You always mention you have been over...after the fact instead of before....
Worried I might look you up...?
I was describing PB...not you and he always has that camera in a pouch on his right hip....hence showed me pics of the Timberframe.....how the feck doI know about that....doh!
As I say don't believe me, just ask him where the oak came from and who is building it...you'll see I'm right.
If you can find that info anywhere on the net...let me know...
BTW...I did check and the cafe was shut to public.....I just didn't want to call you a liar......
Walk through the door from the car park into the little gift area... cash till immediately on your right....pass through into the cafe...tables left and right food serving and ordering towards the end on the right..menus on the right hand wall. I always sit on the left by the windows overlooking the outside plant selling area, plants in aisles...usually wander up and down see what's interesting to purchase....
Was the description right Clyde...?...;-)
#79
Jul 01st, 2014 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On that day, the cafe WAS open. I was in it for a coffee after the walk round the gardens with about 30 others.
When PB is in the gardens working, I have never seen him in the attire you describe. Why should I say I am going over to the gardens ? It is weather related . If we feel like it, the weather is reasonable and there are enough plants in flower, we will go.
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Jul 01st, 2014 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Och..yer a moving target Clydey boy...slippery as an eel...
Well, they must have opened it just for the group...gotta give you the benefit of the doubt on that...
...but the inside description was spot on eh...?...;-)
#81
Jul 02nd, 2014 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My apologies to all for deviation from the subject.
I pressed send by accident before I had finished at #80.
To recap...The members meeting was on Thursday 13 February.
Normally P.B. does the garden walk round and update. As he was on holiday Neil took the group round and showed us the plans for the new shelter on the Chilean hillside. After the talk, I asked Neil, who lives in Ardentinny, I believe, if he knew you from the description of yourself given over several postings. The answer was that he had no idea who it could be. I also asked two more members who live locally the same question. Again the answer was no.
On the garden open day on 1 June I spoke with P.B. and asked him the same question, mentioning that you had been in his house and knew his wife. He said that he could not think who that could be.
That's as much as I can say.
I don't doubt that you live where you say you do and that your current local knowledge of the area exceeds mine. But why does nobody seem to know you ?
As to the cafe opening for the group, all I know was that it was open on that occasion. I even got my wife to check her diary and she confirmed it. So you don't have to give me any benefit of the doubt. There was NO DOUBT. In your haste to prove me a liar, you just jumped to the conclusion you hoped to find without really checking the facts.
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Jul 02nd, 2014 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shrugs shoulders....what can I say....I tell no lies....
...not so invisible now eh...?
Did you see me....;-)
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/07/01/carrier-hms-queen-elizabeth-to-be-christened-with-whisky-in-scotland#comment336056
#83
Jul 02nd, 2014 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I did check out the Dunoon Pipe Band web site months ago but came to no conclusions.
Let's just drop it and declare a truce. We both live in the Firth of Clyde area and that's all we both need to know. I will not pursue the matter of your identity with anyone as from now.
Fair enough...truce it is.....
Jul 02nd, 2014 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But one point of note, the pic is definitely me and it's not Dunoon Argyll Pipe band (they don't have full regimental dress) although I have played for them at one or two events in the past, but not seriously.....
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