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Kicillof blasts holdouts: “they never negotiated or lent money to Argentina”
Argentine Economy minister Axel Kicillof responded fiercely to criticisms directed at him and the Argentine government by Elliott Management portfolio manager Jay Newman, reminding the representative of the holdout investors that they have never lent a cent to Argentina. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“If Argentina’s ministers had met me, I might have put it this way. Defiant speeches have not helped the country move on from the 2001 default. A single honest discussion could relegate it to the past.”
Jul 09th, 2014 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0As we have said so many times.
A fine demonstration of Argenteena's negotiation skills there from the boy wonder.
Jul 09th, 2014 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0there is nothing crazy, what the boyminister not serves up:
Jul 09th, 2014 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0it was and is the sick ck that denies talks and he is the worthless henchman.
how long have we to listen to this good-for-nothing.
Austral Elvis is out of his depth. At some point the mediator is going to tell them they're talking to wrong person and wasting his time.
Jul 09th, 2014 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am very surprised that he is meeting with them without the other side present.
That can't go on for much longer.
And neither can this.
Tick Tock
Dear Minister Kicillof, please stop this WAR against innocent holdouts!
Jul 09th, 2014 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0We are human beings and not scapegoat of the politics!
FOLLOWING COULD BE THE SOLUTION TO END ARGENTINA'S NIGHTMARE DEFAULT
Under the review of Judge Griesa and Daniel Pollack, Argentina and the Holdouts come together, to end this HORROR-Default, with endless suffering for tens of thousand holdout creditors and their families worldwide.
THE PROCESS COULD BE FOLLOWING:
The “RUFO” clause (Rights Upon Future Offers) expires as of December 2014. That means, that from 01/01/2015 Argentina can make a better offer to the Holdouts, than it made in 2005 and 2010.
Argentina and the holdouts make NOW A BINDING AGREEMENT with respect to the “time after” (end of the “Rights Upon Future Offers (RUFO) clause in December 2014), seizure risks and a technical Default would be immediately averted. Argentina could immediately return to the capital market and thus Argentina could refinance the payments to the holdouts, without using reserves.
IN PRACTICE THE NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN ARGENTINA AND THE HOLDOUTS COULD LOOK LIKE THIS:
Argentina enters into good-faith negotiations with the holdout creditors – all of them –via the offices of NML Capital. A firm deadline should be set to reach an agreement, say January 2, 2015, two days after the expiration date of the Rights Upon Future Offers clause.
HOW COULD BE THE CONDITIONS FOR THE REPAYMENT?
Argentina owes to today about 230% to the Holdouts (since 2002 Argentina has not repaid anything to the holdouts)
- at the latest, on 02/01/2015 (end of RUFO clause) Argentina would repay in CASH 100% of the nominal value of the defaulted bonds, which became due before 2015.
- For the accrued interest between 2002-2015 (until now about 130%), Argentina would emit new bonds with a maturity of 5-7 years.
5. What you are describing won't protect them from RUFO litigation. And please stop spamming the board with the same post over and over again.
Jul 09th, 2014 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5 I am certain Kicillof does not read this board.
Jul 09th, 2014 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0You could take out a full page advertisement in relevant newspapers.
Good idea, that's where they seem to do most of their talking, in the media!
Jul 09th, 2014 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Reminds me of the famous negation strategy that: “I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today”.
Jul 09th, 2014 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Iy
I seem to be under a weird misapprehension here, I always thought that when you loan a bank or an institution some money and you have a contract, you dont then have to go into negotiations over 12 years just to try and get it back again. But this seems normal practice over there?
Jul 09th, 2014 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Strange Argentinian concept maybe.
7. I don't think he understands English. The Arg rep at IDB refuses to have English spoke in her office or read English on documents.
Jul 09th, 2014 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Arrogance morphing into Stupidity.
They're hopeless
Perhaps KFC and Elvis have never heard the expression “when you're in a hole stop digging”.
Jul 09th, 2014 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0First thing they will do is claim sovereignty of it, claiming it was there in 1833, dug by the famous Gaucho Rivero, in fact, Argentine latrine.
Jul 09th, 2014 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Which is apt, because they are up to their larcenous necks it shit!
US Judge Griesa must be a man of infinite patience.
Jul 09th, 2014 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0He is dealing with spoiled children who deny that their room is not clean, when it is actually a filthy mess, all the time continually crying and screaming on the floor that they don't have to because ” they never negotiated or lent money to Argentina. ”
My friends, I cannot wait for the final match on 13.07.0214 between Germany and Argentina.
Axel hands are tied by the wicked witch.
Jul 09th, 2014 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just remember this is the same guy that pulled off the deal with the IMF, which everybody thought could not be done.
What IMF deal? As far as I know Argentina is still out of status waiting on review of the “new Indec” algorithm (that eventually won't pass)
Jul 09th, 2014 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0BTW every Int'l bank is preparing for default.
What a wonderful idea making billions but not investing in Argentina, christ that must be a winner, I wish I had thought about it. Although, thinking about it the polititions of Argentina have and are doing it right now. So really not a first.
Jul 09th, 2014 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is it with Kicillof? His profile says he's 42. His actions say he's about 14. So NML never lent a cent to argieland. So what? The individuals that bought the bonds did. Chances are that NML offered them a better deal than argieland would.
Jul 09th, 2014 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There's nothing wrong, unusual or illegal about buying or selling bonds. It happens all the time. The buyer takes over the rights of the original purchaser.
Kicillof may well be acting on the direct instructions of CFK. But it's beyond doubt that she is deranged and now desperately trying to avoid spending the rest of her life in jail. I doubt her “fashion sense” and unlimited spending of other people's money has extended to buying prison uniforms. Unless it was “uniforms” for a “hospitality” trusty.
CFK is OUT next year. Is Kicillof trying to drag things out until she can't “get” him anymore? What sort of cretin will take over?
All of the Argentine bonds were negotiable, to be sold and bought on the secondary market by anyone who wanted to. Large numbers of Argentine bonds were sold both before (at close to pari), and after the default (at around 25 cents/dollar).
Jul 09th, 2014 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2
Jul 09th, 2014 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think you confuse negotiation skills with denial of the right to negotiation.
Foreigners do not have that right.
Remember that when your coughing up the money!
Jul 09th, 2014 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are doing the same thing that argentina did with the restructured bondholders...not negotiating. Pay-back is a bitch
Jul 09th, 2014 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20
Jul 09th, 2014 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If this is denial of the right to negotiation, then it's a pretty crap denial, since they are also loudly insisting they want to negotiate.
But perhaps you are right. This is Argenteena after all, and the normal rules of logic and semantics do not apply.
@22
Jul 09th, 2014 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I find it so dishonest from you yet funny that you think the vultures would have negotiated in 2002. It's all of course a huge rewriting of history, of which you Brits are so fond of doing, lying and stuff.
At the end of the day though, if you are not negotiating and you are the one holding the money, there is no “pay-back”. They still won't see their money :)
If X lends 100 pesos to Y by way of a promissory note and finds himself short of readies and asks Z to cover the value of the promissory note then, of course, Z has lent money to X - simple banking theory!
Jul 09th, 2014 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If X lends to Y and then Z covers for X, and then Z shares it with A, B and C....
Jul 09th, 2014 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then neither A, B, C, X, or Z will see the money.
Simple Argentine banking theory when A, B, C, X, Z are foreigners.
You lost them when you said simple.
Jul 09th, 2014 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@24 they'll just take it in assets in the end. Your assets
Jul 09th, 2014 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@28
Jul 09th, 2014 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Slight problem: most assets are around the world in different jurisdictions, and most will not be amenable to choose sides with a vulture fund vs diplomatic relations..
I still believe that they will pay at last minute. The hedge funds are far too flexible offering to both accept bonds and more time for Argentina and so is the judge. They Ks are just preparing a epic tale to portrait Kicillof as a “fighter” that stands strong to the last minute, as it seems they have designated him as her successor and official candidate for the next elections. They will transform the defeat of having to pay and a disastrous management of the debt all these years into an epic victory story of them vs the vultures and Americans while on the other side they are pulling their pants down.
Jul 09th, 2014 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Singer will be paid UNLESS a full scale crisis is already inevitable and no money will flow in after they have arranged with the holdouts and they can use this as a scapegoat and a excuse that they were forced into default.
Most of them have already done so via international treaties which recognise julings in the NY courts. those treaties state that they will abide by those ruilings. they could rip the treaties up I suppose, but then they would be at risk of pissing of the US gov. they would much prefer to annoy the RG gov. afterall, you don''t need them
Jul 09th, 2014 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@26
Jul 09th, 2014 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Umm, so to make sure I understand your logic here: If Argentina borrows money from foreigners it's OK to not pay them back, because they are foreigners?
I completely agree with you that seems to be the logic that your Whacky leadership is following.
But the civilized part of the world actually expects borrowed money to be paid back.
Especially when you extra-special-double-promised to do so (as was the case with the post-default 2001 bonds in question)...
@26
Jul 09th, 2014 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Isn't that your formula for stating your irrelevant rubbish on here?
Everyone is indicted but no one feels threatened?
Everyone sees you a a mass hypocrite so no one is bothered amigo?
But most off all you and your countrymen just confuse yourselves for the hilarity of the masses....
Poor idiot child Toby BigNostrils imagines that Argentina holds some clout in relation to other countries than Uruguay.
Jul 09th, 2014 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Luxembourg-based Clearstream Banking, one of the largest financial services companies in the world, recognized in its letter to the court that it has held on to payments to creditors while it awaits guidance.
Citibank, another of the government’s trustees, reportedly asked Griesa at a June 27 hearing if it was allowed to make such payments.
To poor idiot child Toby BigNostrils it is wake-up time.
Ah!!!!!!
Jul 09th, 2014 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But they had their fingers crossed behind their backs.
Immature I know, but so far, it's about the only excuse they have not used.
These idiots are still taking out advertisements in major US newspapers to “win over the American people” and to state their case.
Jul 09th, 2014 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0First of all, if it wasn't for the movie Evita nobody here would know anything about this has-been third world country.
And Americans know our courts work and respect their judgement.
I is flabbergasting how dumb these Ks are...
simply and utterly flabbergasting.
Wouldn't it be great to see Germany verses Holland in the Final, two European teams playing for the World Cup in LATAM, you couldn't make it up.
Jul 09th, 2014 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC...:
Jul 09th, 2014 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How nice to see such a highly capable young man holding his ideals high and leading Argentina through the only path worth following... The ethical path...
Goldman Sach's of the World...
Beware.
Here is a lesson to those of you whom still possess mortgages. When they are sold off, tell the new note holder that they in fact never lent you the money to buy your home. That being said, you are only going to pay them 25% of the original amount. That other 75% doesn't matter.....according to Argentines.
Jul 09th, 2014 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20,24,26,29. Have you ever tried not being a pig-ignorant, useless pillock?
Jul 09th, 2014 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@38. Who are you referring to? Kicillof? Dead inside 2 years. Probably ripped apart by a mob. In a rail/traffic “accident”. A proper bomb. A missile. Or just sucked down to his own personal cesspit where he can “drown” in his own effluent. Is there a a real difference between “Kicillof” and shit. Could it be “Think”? The biggest pile of shit in the world!
#38 yapper
Jul 09th, 2014 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You do jest with us. Chin up fella.
The squealers have only squealing left. Ever more frantically and at an ever higher pitch. It's all to no avail and far to late.
Tick Tock goes the clock.
@39
Jul 09th, 2014 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Precisely. This guy Kicillof either doesn't understand the bond markets, or denies their function in order to spout his Marxist propaganda. The fact is, without the ability to trade international bonds, it is unlikely that poor, dead-beat countries like his could ever get financing for anything they needed...
Some good points.
Jul 09th, 2014 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unfortunately the Judge disagrees.
Time to get real and pay your debts.
@38
Jul 09th, 2014 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ethical would be to follow the judgement ruling which Argentina signed up to.
Though shalt not steal...........
Also believing in their own law as opposed to the us one they agreed to follow
Thou shalt not worship false idols.....
You signed a contract with us law so follow it's commandments......
That's a juvenile argument, who ever holds the paper has loaned you money. You owe them according to the terms of the bonds...
Jul 09th, 2014 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pay your bills and quit complaining!
JAJAJJAJA
Jul 09th, 2014 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You Argentine haters must be burning your plastic furniture by now
45 Klingon
Jul 09th, 2014 - 11:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Congratulations Argentina football team, even if you did mix sports with politics and propaganda.
Klingon,
You mistake anger towards your government, your lying thieving politicians, and the Trolls that support them, with hatred of Argentina's people just trying to survive and make sense of the lies.
Your government encourages you to believe in an “enemy”.
@45
Jul 10th, 2014 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you live in Argentina you better save your furniture for burning later. It could be a cooold winter if you don't have $$ for fuel...
@48
Jul 10th, 2014 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hahahaha, you really do live in Sweden huh. You really have no f-en clue what you are talking about.
Those long summer days give you a bit of ectasy and to talk nonsense huh.
@49
Jul 10th, 2014 - 01:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dude...seriously...you have got to talk to your mom about fixing that lock to the computer room.
Yes, we have a nice cozy summer here right now. And our winters can get cold (and long). Not to worry though, we have plenty of power to stay warm.
And thanks to prudent management of our country's finances, my government doesn't have to borrow money to pay for it...
Bwahahaha....
Prudent finances? You bailed out your billionaires to save yourselves. I don't respect that.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 02:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0@46 Another victim of herd mentality. I realise you can't help it as you have been inculcated with believing criticising your government is a personal attack on all Argentines. It isn't.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 06:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Boring game but really pleased for my Argentine friends. They were getting desperately worried at the minutes rolled by but now they have the finals to look forward to.
@52
Jul 10th, 2014 - 06:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is in YOUR PARTICULAR case, because of how you express yourself. Get over it. People have a right to react to how you talk about us.
Argentina take another step along the path to default.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well done.
The average Argentinian living in Argentina, trying to make ends meet will be overjoyed by the smug, incompetent, supercilious, nationalist, socialist elite who find it impossible to swallow their pride and negotiate in good faith.
Such a shame. The people of Argentina deserve better than this.
Vulture funds are showing their true colours
Jul 10th, 2014 - 08:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0From Mr Axel Kicillof.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/bf78b33a-0779-11e4-b1b0-00144feab7de.html#axzz373KGVO5Q
@53 That makes no sense at all. I realise you are angry at me and the world but stop being a victim.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't hate Argentina or Argentines in general. I have great friends there.
@53
Jul 10th, 2014 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0How typical
“It's not my fault I'm a troll”
According to Timermann, “Negotiations are on track with the vulture funds.”
Jul 10th, 2014 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0What negotiations? in three weeks all you have done is sit down ONCE, with a court appointed lawyer, not the other litigate.
I don't know who is the bigger fool, you, or your people for listening to you!
For the umpteenth time Griesa told Arg that he wasn't changing the judgement.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am glad they can celebrate this temporary win because the future looks pretty darn bleak. Unemployment is drastically increasing all over the country. Real Estate sales are still going down, I don't even know how that is possible! Soy is crashing.
Whether they make a deal with the holdouts or not they'll have a balance of payments crisis in the short term.
I hope its while its cold there.
That would be icing on the cake.
@59 The videos sent to me by friends in Buenos Aires showed happy partying around the Obelisco. It was a joy to see. I dread to think of the reaction if they lose on Sunday.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0As you say, the people should enjoy this before the shit hits the fan when the WCFs are over.
Do we know if CFK will attend the WCF? Surely Maximo and co will go.
60. I still don't understand how Soccer can generate so much interest and enthusiasm. I find it bizarre.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0We don't have anything equivalent here in the USA. Even the most popular sporting events don't have that much national participation or interest.
I guess when you have nothing else to look forward to it is wise to widely celebrate every win no matter how inconsequential.
As one of my friends said, “thank goodness we lost so we can stop pretending that anyone cares”
I wonder what they will be talking about next week?
@61. I know a lot of people in the US that really enjoyed the WCFs though even they were relieved they wouldn't have to hear the chant 'I believe that we can win” for another four years! :)
Jul 10th, 2014 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0The sporting events I have attended in the US tend to be family orientated and consuming copious amounts of food and drink to be the main focus. I also love that college level games get a lot of coverage and following. Surely the Super Bowl generates fanaticism?
Personally, I think anything that might inspire children and adults to run around should be heartily encouraged.
@taxiboy:
Jul 10th, 2014 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's called passion, a human emotion you couldn't possibly understand.
@60 Indeed re fan ... and helping an imploding Argentina wouldn't be a vote winner for Dilma right now.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 062. No the Super Bowl or the World Series (Baseball) is nothing like the hooting, hollering and carrying on that I see from the World Cup fans.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0You don't see massive amounts of people gathering in parks to watch the games especially if their teams are not playing.
Plus life goes on the next day and in 2 days it is forgotten.
We don't have anything equivalent.
I am surprised you have American friends that care about WC. I grew up here and the only ones that seem interested are my friends from South/Central America. Did your friends grow up in the USA? Are they married to foreigners? Study abroad? There must be something that is drawing them because I know no one that cares. I don't think anyone even knew there was a game on yesterday. I was at work and all was normal.
@65 A mix of born in the USA, moved there to work etc. Not many are from South/Central America, though a fair few claim Italian roots a few generations back. Maybe it is that. :) And probably a younger generation.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0@63 That is a bit harsh. I love sport but save my passion for other things.
Well from what I have observed Baseball and American Football are just platforms for advertising with frequent mind numbing breaks. I am not surprised that there is little enthusuasm for a game of rounders and a poor excuse for a sort of Rugby. At least a proper football game isnt constantly interupted even if at WC level its only a bunch of millionaires kicking an inflated pigs bladder around a field.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think it was Charkes I of England who encouraged the emerging sport of football on Sundays in the 17th Century to occupy the potentially revolutionary peasant class in the gap between church services on Sundays, their day off.
Seems to serve South American dictators today perfectly in the same fashion!
67. Frankly the only more mind numbing sport than soccer is watching golf.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Games that end in ties, where losers canadvance will never be popular in the USA.
And it seems not much has changed since the 17th Century regarding slum dwellers needing amusement so they don't cause trouble for the gov't.
66. Ahh so they weren't born here that makes sense. My guess is we are about the same age.
@Elaine B
Jul 10th, 2014 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Harsh? Worse than enjoying the fact that children are starving, like Taxiboy does? Please get a perspective, would you?
Taxiboy is nothing but a hater. He thinks he's Milton Friedman because he has been somewhat able to predict - what everybody with a semi-functioning brain could predict - an Argentine economic breakdown.
However, due to his general hatred towards Argentina, he spews vitriol regarding ALL aspects of the Argentine culture, including football. This reveals a sad and unhappy character with a chip on his shoulder.
69. If all you have is Soccer and Tango I feel sorry for you.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't hate Argentina. I loath the corrupt, inept leadership and the imbeciles that keep electing terrible consecutive governments while they watch what's left of a once beautiful country crumble before their eyes.
BTW I guess you, and many of your ilk on this board don't have a semi-functioning brain because I clearly remember long strings arguing with you that the crash was immanent and all of you denying it.
BTW I guess you' must use Taxiboy services because outside of Arg nobody knows what that terms means.
@68 I didn't make it clear, the majority were born in the US, as were their parents and grand -parents etc., but a few moved there to work. And some have roots in European countries a few generations back. I have friends from all adult age groups but football definitely seems more popular with the younger of them.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree that there are certain sports that just do not transfer well to T.V. I would add to golf, any car racing and polo. Polo is great to watch live but dire on T.V. And fishing. Seriously. Fishing on T.V.
@67 It used to be long-bow practise a couple of centuries before that. I guess football was more innocuous.
Do we think the guys at Mercopress are nursing hangovers today?
68
Jul 10th, 2014 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...are you sure you are a Yank.....?
From 1920 to 1973, the NFL had a total of 258 tied games. Only three seasons (1934, 1950, 1952) went without a tied game, while five seasons (1920, 1923, 1926, 1929, 1932) had at least ten ties. The most ties, 17, occurred in the 1920 season. Since 1974, there have only been 19 tied games, the most recent occurring in the 2013 season when the Green Bay Packers and Minnesota Vikings played to a 26–26 draw.
...I take that back....you must be a Yank, as you appear to know fcuk all......
@69. There are children starving in Argentina? CFK kept that quiet whilst waving her Rolex encrusted wrist at the masses.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seriously, can you let me know where children are starving in Argentina?
“everybody with a semi-functioning brain could predict - an Argentine economic breakdown.” Except the Argentine government it would seem. Capitanich has just announced 'there is no possibility of default'.
71. I forgot about fishing! Hahaha I guess there must be some sort of consortium of fishing gear companies keeping that on TV!
Jul 10th, 2014 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 072. I don't follow football either, I am sure your wiki on that is correct but I would have no idea. Did those teams advance with a tie? Probably not. It is more likely they finished up the time and moved on. I'll ask one of my friends that pays attention to that sport and find out.
74
Jul 10th, 2014 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...so it's Nascar racing for you then....
...if you have no idea, then why do make bold inaccurate statements to the contrary....
...you do realise this makes you appear foolish...
@46. What exactly has furniture to do with anything? What do you mean by “plastic”? How would you classify nylon, rayon and similar products?
Jul 10th, 2014 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@50. I don't think he can get into the “computer room”? Take a look at those “miserias”, where would you put a “computer room”? He's outside. One cable clipped to someone's telephone line and another clipped to someone else's power line.
@52. Really looking forward to Germany hammering argieland flat. We can expect to see major cheating and fouling by argies on the pitch. Who knows what those in the stands will get up to? I do hope the fencing is secure. And electrified. I expect most of Rio will be trashed. Heads up, Brazil, get the tanks out. APCs as well. You're going to need them all.
@53. Indeed they do. And should be very grateful that we tell the truth. Trouble is that only a tiny minority are listening and trying to change their behaviour. Still, argieland has wasted 203 years. Another couple of hundred years won't matter that much.
@58. I think you're missing it. The “track” he's talking about is a railway track. How would you rate argie railway tracks? Bent? Dangerous. Impending accident? Suicidal?
@61. I can understand how you see “popular” events. Baseball? - I wouldn't be bothered about rounders either. American football? - King Arthur's knights didn't wear that much armour. Try rugby. Ice hockey? American football on ice with sticks. What sports do you have that involve “skill”? Knocking little balls down rabbit holes doesn't count. You can't suggest sailing/yachting. That's down to the wind. Rodeo is down to the animal and clinging on for dear life. Basketball - netball for tall people.
@69. Please try to be intelligent. There is nothing in argieland worth even thinking about. Here on MercoPress we go through agonies trying to make argies understand what crap they are. 203 years and not a thing to be proud of!
75. All I can say is those ties are extremely rare and must have had little to no effect on the rankings.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Soccer is for young girls, immigrants and poor people here.
I don't know why you all take such offence to that. It is a fact backed up the stats I have posted in the past.
It will never be a popular national sport in the USA.
You are an outright fucking idiot and a troll. Go back in your make believe American home. You're about as American as Borscht! You are nowhere in the USA to say soccer is not popular in the USA.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The difference in you and Tobi ? I have yet to find it.
Where is the USA do you claim to live again?
Cap, My family has lived in America for 379 yrs on both my parent's side.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am only stating my experiences. Nobody I know is watching or cares about WC.
Nobody,
well except the painters currently working on my house.
...yeah well I think Pops is right as you know fcuk all about the highways either.....
Jul 10th, 2014 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...and you have a huge chip on your shoulder about Argentina...an ex-pat...?
,,,and delusions of grandeur....how long now have the painters been working on your house...a month....who are you Rockefeller....
80. I know enough about the Highways that you don't go south from Dulles to get to PA.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And that it takes longer than 3 hours from Dulles, Pearson and JFK to get to the hills Lycoming PA and that you can't average 80mph in rural PA and and and
I never lie, what's the point?
That's how I know I never contradict myself...
unlike a lot of people on this board
For the first time in my life I watched a complete soccer game. So glad to see Brazil destroyed! Then I caught the Argentina game, hoping for their loss. Anyhow, I enjoyed that sporting event. I didn't miss a minute of that game and am starting to understand some of the strategies. As for Amercian football, I quit watching it years ago. While it was fun playing American football in my youth I wish that I had gotten into soccer. As more Americans get involved in this sport, I feel the better that our country will be for it. Unfortunately, since there are no time for commercials(too much excitement), soccer will probably never take off in the US.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Henry Kissinger was a great football fan ; he once said ”Thank god the USA is not good at football” implying it would give many Latam and European countries more reason to hate them.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like it or not America may well become a football power in the next 20 years or so.
IMO
Netherlands loosed because they wasted too much time and the ball with those long passes searching for Van Persie and Robben who were surrounded by Argentine defenders. When they decided to organize and create from the midfield it was already too late. Penalties are 50% luck 50% phsicology.
81
Jul 10th, 2014 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just because you keep saying it often enough doesn't make it true....
I will ask you again to show us all ..the post where I said you travel South from Dulles....
I said you take the toll west for a few miles then join the Highway heading North....
You can keep trying to hide your ignorance of US routes....
BUT you will never show us the post....what does that make you....? a liar perhaps...?
Soooo....what city do you stay in...let's have a few details...you never said....
...you never know...I may be familiar with it....or terrifyingly for you...Pops might..
@68
Jul 10th, 2014 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I take it you do not play golf or probably any other sport. Just a thought.
Pops might just be a regular visitor. I may not enjy soccer to the level my in-laws do, but pretending it is not or never will be popular in the USA by Americans is sandheading.........or a statement from someone not living in the USA. The 2013 polls places it in front of hockey.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I just can't imagine hating a group so much.......you have to hate their passion as well. One need not read many of his posts to understand his hatred. Hell I don't even hate the people I opposed in the Army.
I am thinking firsthand Virginia, then secondly my hometown NYC. Where else would such an American patriot (who never served his country) live?
@Elaine B:
Jul 10th, 2014 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 014 Argentine children die every day due to malnutrition:
http://www.ipypp.org.ar/descargas/Los%20numeros%20que%20el%20gobierno%20intenta%20ocultar.pdf
@83
Jul 10th, 2014 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for the heads up on the Netherland/Argentine game. Yeah, it did appear to me that they were looking too much for Robben. I was able to follow him more than others, not only because he plays the game so well, but he reminds me of Captain Picard from Star Trek.
Nice to see that I have such a wide fan base and that so many people care what I say.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Voice, I am not going to do research to prove your nuttiness. If I remember correctly it is on the same string where you forgot Pearson was in Canada and you had to pass through US Customs to get here.
Cap, you are probably skewing your thoughts about soccer because of your wife's family's passion. MLS soccer's annual TV viewership is down yoy 2012-2013 it is up this year due to WC but they expect it to go back down next year. Other than my South and Central American friends nobody I know is following the games. Maybe you travel in a different circle than I do.
BTW I don't hate anyone.
I may have a chip on my shoulder because I live in the best country in the world. I love it here and will never live permanently anywhere else. I've been to 30+ countries and have not found one that I would prefer to live permanently.
I am patriotic but never served in the military. Is that a requirement to love your country? Are you more American because you served? That's just silly.
@yankeeboy said:
Jul 10th, 2014 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I am patriotic but never served in the military. Is that a requirement to love your country?”
No, but it is a requirement if you want to show you really MEAN it.
89
Jul 10th, 2014 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I am not going to do research ”
...well, we knew that didn't we......;-)
“I may have a chip on my shoulder because I live in the best country in the world. I love it here and will never live permanently anywhere else.”
You sound like an immigrant that has landed themselves in paradise....
Intelligent Yanks don't say things like that, they are comfortable with who they are and their Country and are well aware of the flaws....
...haha ...the lady doth protest too much methinks....
...my guess is you are from Argentina with a gripe....
Where do you live....SHOW ME THE MONEY......;-)
ahhh great game yesterday.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So who will you ladies be cheering for in the world cup final ??
91 Voice
Jul 10th, 2014 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“
Intelligent Yanks don't say things like that, they are comfortable with who they are and their Country and are well aware of the flaws.... ”
How would you know?
You've shown on your Trout tripe threads you know nothing about travelling in the US.
I expect that you are inadmissable.
@92
Jul 10th, 2014 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Got to be Germany, very clinical of thier demolitian of Brazil.
#92
Jul 10th, 2014 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#GUESS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's no use rallying the troops....with deflective nonsense....YB is on the ropes....;-)
Jul 10th, 2014 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 091. I was also like that before I lived outside of the country for an extended time. You'll find that it makes one love the USA even more!
Jul 10th, 2014 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One thing I did while I was living in Arg was to read biographies of US Presidents in Order and a lot about the Revolutionary war and our founding fathers.
I realized that we are unique and blessed that we had absolutely brilliant people founding our country that also were not in it for personal gain. No where else in the world has that ever happened.
@92
Jul 10th, 2014 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whichever way - one thing is sure, for Argentina on Monday - it will be back to life, back to reality ; )
http://youtu.be/TB54dZkzZOY
“BTW I don't hate anyone. ”
Jul 10th, 2014 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe you need to elaborate many of your posts when you call all Argentine's “dirty greasy haired stupid monkeys.” Words of endearment maybe your family loves heaaing from you......certainly not words that suggest anything other than hatred.
“Are you more American because you served? That's just silly.”
It means I put my words to my actions that I believe in my country enough to protect it with my life. Conservatives love to exploit that in Americans.....so they never feel the need to serve, only put them who do into action.
you still have yet to tell us the county anyway of where you reside? Is a county too narrow to tell us?
My wife is Argentine and loves soccer.........during the WC and no other time.
I really would love to know the “circle” you run in.....WWW.AFTA.org?
You may want to check your viewer stats with some place other than wikipedia.........at least Nielsen anyway and someplace else.
When you focus your posts you do much better......like smart bombing. When you carpet bomb, you seem to lose brain cells. Oh......an BTW, I know that all the RG's you know where lawyers, doctors and such and now in the USA working as waiters and painters and gardners....presumably yours. Go to Greenwich, Ct, Stamford, Chicago, Philadelphia. Look at Unilever and I will introduce to dozens that are managing global logistics, J&J, Sara Lee......quite a few others. You really are a racist pig. Those posts make me think of the guys that always deserved the point way back when. Check Wall Street too.
97
Jul 10th, 2014 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“that also were not in it for personal gain”
Is that some kind of a historical joke...?
...tell me again about the Boston Tea Party....
Tell me about the colonists that didn't want to pay the UK taxes for free land protected by the British Army...explain why, when those taxes were removed on all but the Tea that they still resented having to pay tax to the UK....
The USA was founded on greed and personal gain....
You haven't read shit and know nothing about the Revolutionary war.....
You are fooling no one....which area do you live in.....?
Are you close to Pops....?
Come on....details....prove me wrong....
You obviously don't know much about my country's history.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and your post reeks of jealousy.
Maybe this will help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-9pDZMRCpQ&feature=kp
@87 Thanks for that.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have visited a number of very poor areas and am aware of the problems but misunderstood your comment to mean there was a new acute problem rather than the chronic situation.
101
Jul 10th, 2014 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know plenty about the US...the real history, but I'm not sure which country is your country....so I can't state whether I know or not....
Sooo....which State are you in....?...how about a County, better still a town....
You dare not say....;-)
Now why is that.....?
103 Voice
Jul 10th, 2014 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I know plenty about the US...the real history, but I'm not sure which country is your country....so I can't state whether I know or not....
Sooo....which State are you in....?...how about a County, better still a town.... ”
What difference does it make to you, where YB lives??
You know nothing about the US or it's residents except what you see on Dukes of Hazard.
You live by Wikipedia and define people by stereotypes, exclusively.
The “mysterious Voice from somewhere” has an incessant desire to know nation it and personal information about other posters, and yet, refuses to disclose personal information or political affiliations regarding himself, “that's my business, nobody else's”.
What new stereotypes will you assign to YB when you find out, and what charges for society's ills will you demand he account for??
Nobody appointed you the Judge of other people's actions, whilst you avoid accountability and cloak your point of reference.
What a hypocrit, you are. It's laughable!!
YB are both US Americans and both are US Patriots, but with different ideologies and perspectives.
What are you, except a Shit- Disturber??
How weird is that....look at Troy getting his knickers in a twist trying to legitimise YB's identity....
Jul 10th, 2014 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and what's this...?
“YB are both US Americans and both are US Patriots, but with different ideologies and perspectives.”
...a Freudian slip....YB is both....???
...more to this than meets the eye......;-))
I don't see him attacking Pops for saying the same thing....
I am curious where he lives. He claims to be here since 1635 he must be linked to Plymouth, Mass. Most everyone is with that hereditary distinction. Where do you live yankee?
Jul 10th, 2014 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I am curious where he lives. He claims to be here since 1635”
Jul 10th, 2014 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That makes him 379 - so I'm guessing Florida : )
Seriously, is Mercopress on a break? These threads always deteriorate into mud slinging when there is nothing new to debate.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't advise giving away personal information. Don't take the bait.
Living in Boston is hardly personal information.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Living at 19 Copley Square is detailed information
My SSN xxx-xx-xxxx that is personal information.
There are enough assholes in my government to embarrass me and make fools of Americans. I can hardly stand some racist extremist pretending to be an American adding to the fuel.
“Seriously, is Mercopress on a break?”
Jul 10th, 2014 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps they are Montevidean based Dutch journo's and sulking : )
@110 :)
Jul 10th, 2014 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0108
Jul 10th, 2014 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are no Bogeymen on here...quite a few pretenders though....
Personal info is overrated...I gave Pops a town in the US, let alone a County and he couldn't place me....and it's tiny...
I gave Clyde a very small area with detailed info and I'm still anonymous.....
Hell.... I even posted a pic of myself in case anyone should run in to me....
..it's no big deal....unless you are telling porkies....
I'm not telling anyone where I live. My family did come in the great migration through Mass on both sides. One side founded Windsor Connecticut.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's all you get.
105 Mr. Flatulence
Jul 10th, 2014 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“How weird is that....look at Troy getting his knickers in a twist trying to legitimise YB's identity.... ”
Hardly.
You are trying to deflect me.
I am addressing the absurd hypocrisy of the anonymous Troll, demsnding personal information of others, to further his personal attacks.
Voice,
You would also have us believe that your anonymity is the same as being impartial and objective. It is not.
You either do not have the courage of your convictions or you know your charges are indefensible or frivolous.
Taking that into account, your blustering accusations are irrelevant.
94.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 095.
98.
Siding with the Gerries. :)
Oh who would have thought the day would come when you would be reduced to cheering for the Germans.
Come on own up now - who's checked Copley Square Boston on Google Streetview....
Jul 10th, 2014 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0114
Jul 10th, 2014 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0....anonymity....?
I've probably given more info out on here than anyone except maybe Anglotino...
So shut it and go worry someone else's ankles....you sycophant...
I asked ....he's keeping schtum, so that ends that debate.....
@70 “I don't hate Argentina. I loath the corrupt, inept leadership and the imbeciles that keep electing terrible consecutive governments while they watch what's left of a once beautiful country crumble before their eyes.”
Jul 10th, 2014 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Funny because every you say about Argentina (and not just about the government) is extremely insulting.
@115
Jul 10th, 2014 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unfair - my post did not indicate support for any team. Simply that after the event Argentina will not have distraction from the problem it faces.
BTW it's Jerries, not Gerries.
http://t.answers.com/answers/#!/entry/why-were-the-germans-called-jerries,4fb7ebb64b672622b8f4b018
Most of the Yanks are related anyway....
Jul 10th, 2014 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obama to McCain and both 22nd cousins of King Edward 1st....
Obama to Brad Pitt and Hilary Clinton to Angelina Jolie....
Hey Pops YB might be related to you.....;-)
117 voice
Jul 10th, 2014 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I've probably given more info out on here than anyone except maybe Anglotino ”
Ha ha... bullshit.
Do you remember when we ran you to ground because you insisted on playing games like hide & seek??
You were pretty meek then, remember?
LOL !!
Voicey,
It's all about YOU and attention-seeking, trying to impress and one-upping everyone else.
A bit pathetic for someone who would like us to think he is so clever...
Why don't you ask Capt Poppy directly??
m.cher1160@outlook.com
Oh, no, I expect that's no good, you wouldn't get the audience for the attention you crave, would you???
Awaiting your mealy-mouthed retort as an attempt to save face...
119. Gerries Jerries tomayto tomahto.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0anyhoo ... I think everyone in the world will enjoy the final.
... well, almost anyone, for those of a certain political persuasion it is already a worst case scenario. I find that pleasing.
@Elaine B:
Jul 10th, 2014 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, this is much worse than 'the chronic situation'. The Kirchners have screwed up Argentina unlike anyone before them. The 90s were way better than this, for instance.
121
Jul 10th, 2014 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think it's you attention seeking....butting in to our conversation....
...look at your last post....double spacing between the lines to get you noticed....
...like a cat trying to make itself look bigger......
...butting in on the other thread too....
Why don't just butt out....instead....
Ask Pops what? I was asking YB....fool...you can't even follow a thread properly....
#117
Jul 10th, 2014 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I must contradict you on that point, I have given out more information about myself than anyone else.
Yep ! Tensions are always high around the world cup. Even on this forum :)
Jul 10th, 2014 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe we should just go back to our electronic warfare game between the Falklands and it's mother country (Argentina).
I heard reports the the FI's were so mad after Argentina's win yesterday they started using penguins as footballs kicking the poor birds down the beach.
125
Jul 10th, 2014 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry....True......and I still don't know where you live, apart from up a hill in Ayr....
Queens Baton for the Commonwealth games passes the Holy Loch about 5pm...will be watching the event on the Shore road...bit of support for the effort....
That's not true, they even laid out a new football pitch for you.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just ignore the barbed wire and the red signs, with the skull and crossed bones.
One islander was heard to comment, “Now that should go down with a bang!”
Just joking, should be a good match and anyone who thinks that Germany has all but won the title, could very well be in for a surprise.
It's not over till the final whistle!
Best of luck to both teams.
@126
Jul 10th, 2014 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice try, but....It stretches the imagination too far that anyone in Argentina would have any accurate reports of anything on the Islands...
@125
Jul 10th, 2014 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'll second that - you are WYSIWYG, and when your steam is up - you can be a bit of a puffer ; )
125
Jul 10th, 2014 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sunday 5pm...
128
Germany Vill Vin....
Ach Zo
Jul 10th, 2014 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You av vays of makin zem Valk!
124 Voice
Jul 10th, 2014 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“......look at your last post....double spacing between the lines to get you noticed....”
Ha ha!!
Are you serious??
Omg !!!
Must not double-space !!
LOL,
Thanks for proving my point.
=)
'bye
#120 unlikely unless he came from mother Russia.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Windsor Ct? I worked there for 8 years......use to fly into and out of BDL all the time when I lived in Springfield. You must be very old, or very rich and very bored to spend so much time on MP posting.
@34 Not too much happening in the trailer park this time of year for Yankeeboy.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A-hole is correct, he has given loads of personal information.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He is a very bitter Scot Nat with a Mel Gibson fetish.
That narrows it down...5 million Scots, 2.5 million are male, 2.0million adults...say 30% “Yes” voters...we are down to 600,000.
We also know A-hole has “muscles on top of muscles” and likes to threaten motorists who cut him up. So he is also a moron...let's say down to 60,000
He has also told us that once he found out that Conqueror was an old aged pensioner he had “sexual fantasies” about “finding him” and “teaching him a lesson”. So he is also clearly a perverted deviant.
At other times he has claimed fantasy homes in the US, racist views,and an unhealthy interest in tracking down strangers he meets on the Internet.
So, a rabid and racist Scot Nat who has sexual fantasies about men in skirts and OAPs, tells ridiculous and easily to disprove lies, and continually makes a complete moron of himself.
Is a-hole Alex Salmond....surely there can't be two of them.
I usually look forward to yankeeboy's posts, as they can be informative and interesting. I've learned alot from reading most of them. But sometimes we all go too far. And when that occurs it's good for others to bring us down to earth. So, I look forward to reading yankeeboy when his analysis's are illuminating.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As far as Gingoland goes, it is a great place to live in. My grandparents came here at the beginning of the last century and I believe worked hard for their families and helped make this a better country. And presently, when the US frees its illegals, our country will prosper exponentially.
136
Jul 10th, 2014 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“He has also told us that once he found out that Conqueror was an old aged pensioner
”
Show me....or are you another liar....?
...you are Troy's puppet aren't you...;-))) ha ha I thought you looked familiar....
...couldn't resist coming back with something...
...That is so funny...Troy's puppet....It's the alliteration isn't it....Troy Tempest...TT...Monkey Magic...MM....Oh dear...should have thought that one trough eh....PMSL...
...shut it and get back in the cupboard.....you are dismissed.....
137 You have a certain flair that is reminiscent of others here. That last sentence is a sure fire telltale. Tell me....where is Gingoland? Anywhere near Lego land?
Jul 10th, 2014 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We we stop corporations from having constitutional rights, we will prosper exponentially. #137 some of your posts are informative, but use more links other than Wikipedia and Utube.
Think
Jul 10th, 2014 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I love it when one of your sock puppets gets all self-righteous and tries to oust someone else. What's up? Have too many of Yankeeboy's (very accurate) predictions come true lately?
Chuckle chuckle
The Dark Country has really shot itself in the foot this time. No one in their right mind will ever lend them anything ever again.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0136monkey Magic
Jul 10th, 2014 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree with everything you say, except...
...I'm sure Salmond is better looking.
:-D
After a quick Internet search I didn't find Yankeeboy, but found his wife.
Jul 10th, 2014 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/84196752/
@140
Jul 10th, 2014 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very much this comment
Chuckle chuckle chuckle
140 Joe B
Jul 10th, 2014 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chuckle chuckle
:-D
“I've probably given more info out on here than anyone except maybe Anglotino...”
Jul 10th, 2014 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And yet so little is known.
142
Jul 10th, 2014 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't know about that...let's take a look.....he certainly hasn't got my panache and bearing.....;-)
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7448/14217715423_6280d56d4a_o.jpg
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7448/14217715423_6280d56d4a_o.jpg
......tell me, are good looking guys important to you....?
(147) A Voice
Jul 10th, 2014 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice outfit!
How many names is that now Think? 10? 15? 20? Only TTT outdoes you. Or does he? Maybe you are also Nostrils and all of his 25+ names.
Jul 11th, 2014 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Credibility check anyone?
Do you even know what credibility is or why it's a worthwhile character trait? How about integrity? Do you know what that means?
Keep up the mighty effort old man.
141. You will be surprised......China is right there. Though they will not be as tolerant. Funny....Chinese language classes are springing up everywhere....being taught as a first language in schools.
Jul 11th, 2014 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Money talks, Chinese listen.
Jul 11th, 2014 - 05:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0@149 You are spot on.
Jul 11th, 2014 - 08:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0148 Think
Jul 11th, 2014 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks Mr. Think...I've got the legs for it....
I've always said... I do look good in a skirt....;-)
ElaineB is just jealous....
Bahahahahahaha.
Jul 11th, 2014 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Credibility check anyone?
@153 Of what?
Jul 11th, 2014 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0#127
Jul 11th, 2014 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0All I know about you is that you live in the Holy Loch area - Sandbank at a guess. Apart from that virtually nothing, your history from school to work and nationality. I have given all these details about myself....how about you ?
155
Jul 11th, 2014 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0I thought you were sharp...if I said to a girl...I do look good in a skirt....you are just jealous.....
...forget it....you are a spoiler of light banter.....
Mr. Think would have got it....
156
I thought we had a truce...?
I think we are still missing a post from Marcos agreeing with one of them and berating me about some nonsense.
Jul 11th, 2014 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Then they all will be in attendance.
It is a gorgeous day here today! Where ever that may be :) Maybe with that clue my fans can figure it out.
Looks like Austral Elvis is taking cover in case the “negotiations” ( I call them demands) are not met. Griesa has been pretty clear he's not changing a word on the judgement so I am not sure where it goes from here.
Regardless of an agreement the economy is now spinning out of control. There is nothing they can do do stop the coming depression and the high inflation.
Well, nothing that will be accepted by the unwashed masses that is....
158
Jul 11th, 2014 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's a gorgeous day here too...ask Mr Clyde....
...that was all yesterdays free for all....today is another day...
It must get exhausting for you pointing out the obvious all the time.
Jul 11th, 2014 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Too bad you never have any good insight on the articles.
...we all know you are a one trick pony.....deviate from economics and you are like a village idiot....
Jul 11th, 2014 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0I didn't realise it was obvious that it was a gorgeous day on a latitude the same as Moscow....
You may think that but you'd be wrong on both counts.
Jul 11th, 2014 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0What do you ever bring to the conversation but lies, half truths and bullying?
I know you think you're funny and interesting but you're just sad and pathetic to the rest of us.
and probably anyone who's ever met you in person.
...that's always the problem with Yanks...subtlety always goes sailing above your head...
Jul 11th, 2014 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0After the bashing you got yesterday my comment @159 was telling you to forget it and move on...an olive branch of sorts...
yet.....jeez...
This is a different subject, the question is, what do you add to the debates on this board?
Jul 11th, 2014 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0I can't remember one insightful comment you've ever made. Not one.
All bluster and bullying to what end?
Are you really that sad and lonely?
So now I am American again?
You definitely have something mentally wrong with you.
Even immigrants can become Americans....
Jul 11th, 2014 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is this self praise all about...you do realise that self-praise is no recommendation...
I do realise it was quite a shock to your ego and delusions of grandeur of how quickly folk turned on you yesterday...
.....you have learned nothing...your blind ignorance was highlighted for all to see and you have still learned nothing....
Carry on.....you will soon realise that anything that you have interesting to say will be dismissed, because you are obviously a racist prick blinded by hatred and giving Yanks a bad name....
You need to re-read Pops comments and take them onboard...
I could care less what anonymous posters think of me or my thoughtful insight into Argentina. I come here to waste time nothing more nothing less.
Jul 11th, 2014 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think you also may want to re-read the comments if one were to declare a loser it certainly wouldn't be me. If that kind of thing can even be quantified.
Cap goes a little off the deep end sometimes cursing and on weird psycho-sexual tangents. Everyone has good and bad days. Yesterday I think he was a little nutty.
Again, what do you add to the conversation except blustering and bullying?
164 Yankeeboy
Jul 11th, 2014 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“All bluster and bullying to what end?
Are you really that sad and lonely?”
YB
The answer is a resounding, yes he is!
All his posts are ultimately all about himself and how clever he is.
Me..?
Jul 11th, 2014 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Contradictory... unbiased comments with no affinity to a Nation...no hidden agenda and free from hatred....
You have become the Conqueror of US....
He wants to Nuke and destroy Argentina....
...and you want them to starve and freeze to death...
I don't debate with Conqueror....
why am I debating with you......
Because you can't help yourself.
Jul 11th, 2014 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Again, what do you bring to this board? I don't remember you saying one insightful comment. Not one. i dare you to show me some.
You merely bully people and opine on nonsensical tangents usually picking up a something someone said off-highhandedly as an aside. Then you beat it to death.
BTW this is not a debate there will be no winner.
YB
Jul 11th, 2014 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Any word on how the meeting went? Or would it still be going? What are the likely outcomes with regards to the end of month deadline?
Thanks for all of your well informed posts on this subject.
@139
Jul 11th, 2014 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey Captain, maybe the flair is like others as you say, maybe not. Anyhow, once 10 million illegals can use Obama Care the costs will go down for everyone. Once they are legalized and will have to be paid legitimate working rates, they will get more respect for their working efforts. So, when these people become equal (like Blacks, Irish, Germans, Jews, and others before them in this society) the US will prosper as it has with those other groups(exponentially). Maybe this is in wikipedia, maybe not.
As to where Gringolandia is, I have been known only as the Gringo to my friends, relatives, and business associates in Peru for over 30 years. I think that my sister-in-laws have no idea of what my real name is. Thusly, it is fitting for me to use that term as the designation for my country. As a sidelight, on my first visit to Peru there was this sign near the airport, ”Gringo don't go, but if you must call us (moving company).
IT'S NOT A PROBLEM OF MISSINFORMATION.
Jul 11th, 2014 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The argentine government has explained exhaustively our problem with the vultures in planty of opportunities, in fact, it has published articles in some of the most important financial newspapers of the world, beside, in the case of mercopress, it has publishes the posture of the argentine government in many opportunities, without signifficant omissions. It means that all those people, or unless most them who are interested in this question in the world, , have a good knowledge about the conflict that we have with those sons of a bitch (the vultures), so, if some of them agree on the posture of those cretins, it's not because of a matter of missinformation, it's because of a matter of ideological coincidences
I would be hypocrite if i said that i am not so worried about this problem, but there are two things that mitigate unless a litle the concerning i feel for it. Beyond it's well known that there will always be cretins who will continue to distort the posture of the country, we all know that the nation has always had a great politic will in order to solve this question, although some cretins preffer believing the contrary, objetive facts show that if the country didn't want to solve this problem, it would never made two debts restructrings, where the 92% of the defaulted debt could be restructurated.
If the vultures are callled like that in the world, is because actually, they don't negotiate, they just litigate in a corporate justice, in order to get a favourable rulling.
The second thing that mitigates a little my concerning, is to know that the government will solve this problem, but without prejudicing all the achievements that we could get in all these 11 years, cristina won't let those sons of a bitch ruin her legacy, although some of our sepoys wish it.
Your problem Axe is that you do not want to pay back a contractual obligation that you. UNTIL there is bankruptcy protect for countries.....Argentina owes all of the non-renegotiated debt.
Jul 11th, 2014 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BJ......ATFA has not been updated as yet......you'll have to wait.
(168) A_Voice
Jul 11th, 2014 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pity that that B&W picture at (147) makes Tartan Identification a tad difficult...
Anyhow......, nice to see you Sons of the Gael not longer bound down to the unmanly dress of the Lowlander...
;-)
#171 the illegals are not becoming legal. The operative word here is “illegal”.
Jul 11th, 2014 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#117/157
Jul 11th, 2014 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you said:-
I've probably given more info out on here than anyone except maybe Anglotino...
All I was trying to point out was that I have given details of my nationality, schooling, where I have lived. my working life and some family history. Can you say the same for yourself ? No. So I have revealed more about myself than you have.
If you look at a map of Ayr,you will see that there is only one hill in the town. That is smaller area than the ”Holy Loch so I have pin pointed my address closer than you have with yours.
This is not an argument but just a statement of fact.
I don't believe I have broken any truce by correcting your statement.
174 Think
Jul 11th, 2014 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you sure you are not me....? You are the only person to spot that it was a fairly modern picture with the colour removed to prevent anyone identifying the very distinctive tartan....a very distinctive betrayal...;-)
176 Clyde
Yes, but as I recall you said you would no longer pursue trying to identify me and now you are asking for all details again.....
.....when you mentioned a hill...higher ground to someone I immediately thought...Ayr on the coast, can't be many hills...I could pull Google street view....
Then I thought.....he said truce so I didn't and have no intention of doing so....
...and I did say you were right about more info than others...
Pops and Troy Tempest were getting to damn close over there and you over here....
Give me a break....I tell no lies....
live and let live.....
(176) & (177)....
Jul 11th, 2014 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not Mr. Anglolatino, not Mr. A_Voice nor Mr. Clyde but Mr.Think (already in 2010) is the one that has given most “tracking” info on these pages.....
How many Inka Orange 1969 Baader Meinhof Wagen 2002 do you laddies “Think” one can find in Argentina?
How many in South Western Chubut?
Chuckle chuckle...
#177
Jul 11th, 2014 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Read my post again EXACTLY as I have written it. Nowhere did I ask you to reveal ANYTHING about yourself. All I said was that I had revealed more information (of my personal history) than you have.
You can try Google earth if you wish and do a drive by of hundreds of
houses but you can't read the name on the door from a street view.
#156
I have given all these details about myself....how about you ?
The last “how about you” should be read as “have you” to which the reply is no.
As an adjunct, I was at Prestwick airport yesterday to see the arrival of the NASA WB-57F . A secret squirrel aircraft festooned with radar bumps and satellite communications equipment. No idea what it was here for apart from an overnight stop and then off somewhere. We seem to get quite a few of these “strange” aircraft as they can usually sneak in and out unobserved except for those who are on the grapevine.
178 Think
Jul 11th, 2014 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is this it....?
http://th00.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2011/132/e/3/vw_bus_by_nate0raid-d3g6piz.jpg
179
You have highlighted the misunderstanding Clyde......
@156...“:your history from school to work and nationality. I have given all these details about myself....how about you ?”
....how about you ....I read as a prompt for info as “have you” is really a rhetorical question, as we both know I haven't....
...ha ha...also it did cross my mind that the innocuous remark about living on a hill to another poster was a dastardly red herring for me to pick up on.....
....you don't reach a ripe old age without knowing a trick of two....I bet..
Prestwick is owned by the Scottish Govt now...maybe that's why....
As I was saying earlier, AVoiceofThinkdover ultimately turns every thread to his
Jul 11th, 2014 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0favourite subject, HIMSELF.
What an attention- seeking whore!!
oops, did I double-space again? Egad!!
(180) A_Voice
Jul 11th, 2014 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cute, but no cigar...
Try this one...
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/.a/6a00df351e888f8834017ee8b28f94970d-800wi
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/.a/6a00df351e888f8834017ee8b28f94970d-800wi
181 TT
Jul 12th, 2014 - 12:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0The more the news worsens for him and the more people expose him as the most prolific user of multiple names and the biggest liar and deadbeat on MP the more he pretends to be deep in conversation with one of his sock puppets, seemingly oblivious to critics' posts. This is how he went when his Dover character passed the point of sustainability.
Has anybody heard any news from today's meeting yet?
Huh...that 183 hasn't got a clue....has he Mr.Think.....
Jul 12th, 2014 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0I thought Meinhof travelled around Germany in a VW bus.....guess I was wrong....
181
Me...
...and now for something completely different..........me!
...British joke....opps you're not British.....my bad....
News this morning here:
Jul 12th, 2014 - 05:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ Putin valoriza Argentina, mas é cauteloso quanto aos BRICS ”
Translated:
“ Mr. Putin ” values “ Argentina as a friend, but says no to Argentina becoming a member of BRICS. ”
Mr. Putin was speaking from that bastion of freedom and democracy, Cuba. A special money fund also discussed for countries in need, but that does not include Argentina.
Very sad. Looks like annexation is not even an option now for Argentina.
What are friends for ?
@172
Jul 12th, 2014 - 05:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wow! where to even start on this one?
OK, first of all; you are confusing facts with cynical propaganda. This case is not about the so-called vulture funds. It is about bonds that were issued AFTER the Argentine default in 2001. Argentina desperately needed $$ and had to sign off on a number of conditions in order to get someone to lend them the $$. This included specifically waiving off sovereign rights, agreeing to NY Court jurisdiction, and even pledging national assets as security for the loans. But then, after they got the $$, they turned around anyway and said “no we are not paying you back”, clearly violating the terms of the loan.
The fact that the so-called vulture funds bought the distressed bonds later from the original lender is irrelevant. the pledge of pay back is made to the bond holder, not to the original lender. That is how bond markets operate. Without a working bond market, dead-beat countries like yours could not borrow money on the international markets.
This why the US courts ultimately had to rule the way they did. They tried to find any cause for sovereign immunity but in this case those bonds were simply so clearly pledged to the full value by the Argentine government that the courts just could not let it slide.
This case is about an exceptionally irresponsible borrower whose behavior had to be stopped somewhere before they wreaked havoc on the international bond markets...
(184) A_Voice
Jul 12th, 2014 - 07:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not a clue whatsoever....
Same as the Swede at (186)....
By the way....
Forgot to ask you before...
Is that a real fur busby.... or that new synthetic stuff?
187 Think
Jul 12th, 2014 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ouch!...my turn....
Not a clue Mr.Think.....;-)....it's called a Feather Bonnet and is made from Ostrich feathers....
(188) A_Voice
Jul 12th, 2014 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ahhhh...., an Osrtich Feather Bonnet..... Now I know....
My great ignorance about all things Scottish, my bad sight and a deliberate unclear picture, all conspired against me... :-)
An Ostrich Feather Bonnet...
Cool stuff
just kidding Mr.Think....not your fault 99.9% of UK folk make the same mistake....
Jul 12th, 2014 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0...from a distance they look the same.
Another meeting with the mediator.
Jul 12th, 2014 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Another defeat for Argentina.
At some point they'll have to actually talk to NML. I still don't think they realize they lost and NML holds the key to avoid default.
Are they scared to talk to NML?
Looks that way.
Silly Marxists don't know how things work in the real world.
@190
Jul 12th, 2014 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The kicker is that the scots pipers who have worn those, And the scots in the respective regiments who signed up will want to stay with the rest of uk folk.....
Very bitter indeed aren't you?
Turnip at (192)
Jul 12th, 2014 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0AS far as I remember (and I usually remember correctly), Mr. A_Voice has often and clearly expressed his loyalism to the English Crown...
@193
Jul 12th, 2014 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Great, chuck us a quote from him then conquistador.
P.s that title went out post 1707...... Is Latam education that bad you can't even google something prior to posting?....what a cabbage.....
191 YB
Jul 12th, 2014 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0how humiliating for the Argie legal team - embarrassing themselves in front of
well-regarded, experienced high level officials like Pollack and Griesa.
To continue with the Argie farce and charade without appropriate winks and
smirks, makes them look like they are idiots enough to believe it themselves.
Oops, double spacing again ...
195. It is odd. At some point Pollack will have to stop meeting with them separately, it seems they are rehashing the same things over and over again after they've already been told no.
Jul 12th, 2014 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would be shocked if they default but this gov't has shocked me more than a few times.
Their arrogance leads to stupidity more often than not.
192
Jul 12th, 2014 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't understand your comment...it doesn't make any sense....the Piper wearing the feather bonnet is me...?
...you do not know me and you do not know what I think...
so what makes you think that I'm bitter.....
I'm not..I'm a happy chappy that says exactly what I think of most of the nonsense expressed by some folk on here....
...as for your comment @194...hahaha...like he didn't know.....;-))))
@197
Jul 13th, 2014 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you was actively wearing a pipers bonnet you'd have to answered the key to the secret of eternal youth.
To perpetuate nonsense is to be nonsense within itself?
Well you haven't agreed with what your so called comrade thinks you are prepared to state and say. I thought you didn't like all this in post @124?
And the pair of you seem to talk for each other as opposed for yourself? I thought you sweaty's were a bit more tasty than this?
No I disagree..if you are Scottish and proud to be British you would be offended as well by cabbages thinking? re.@194
P.s prestwick....are you sure it's not owned by the crown or uk government until further notice?
198
Jul 13th, 2014 - 01:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0I really can't make head nor tail of your post...I think Google Translate is betraying you....
Offended.....??
To put it simply....there is me and my immediate family...after that, my friends, after that.....a world full of strangers.....
Whether they are British...European....Yanks or South American, they are still strangers why should I have a preference or allegiance...?
Of course I'm not offended...that would be stupid and totally illogical.....
Prestwick as far as I recall was taken over by the Scottish Govt. and you might not realise this, but it's a different Govt. from the UK Govt.
Ps...there is a difference between defending someone and speaking for them....
@199
Jul 13th, 2014 - 01:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why should it?
Offended? Purely because he is saying its a English crown not a British one? And think is saying you are loyal to the English crown not the British one post 1707. Twonk
If it is a world full of strangers then you are just an anarchist....so the whole nonsense parable post @197 does previously suit you, rebel without a cause that truely wants you.
Your do not consider yourself British as you have just said that in your previous post. Your comrade think is just a liar then in post @193.....Why are you getting people to give contradictory posts on your behalf? Ergo bitter...... Or bonkers.....
No prestwick is still under the uk government if Scotland is still part of the uk...you haven't devolved that much...
Campbell or macdonald?
Like I said sweaty socks are brave people, I respect them because they are straightforward......exception to the rule?
201
Jul 13th, 2014 - 01:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sweaty socks !!!
LOL !!
Has this got anything to do with the actual article?
Jul 13th, 2014 - 02:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Take your silly bitchfest elsewhere!
On topic.
Does Kilicof have a game plan or is this hot air?
Any insight? Anyone?
Nobody knows if he has a plan... but Peronists usually aren't the kind of guys that plan.
Jul 13th, 2014 - 06:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0@202 203
Jul 13th, 2014 - 07:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Apologies :p
Personally I think the current argentine government are playing some form of monopoly, spending fake money and hoping and praying they get a chance card or drag something out of the community chest.
Do not pass go? Do not collect your devalued peso to the detriment of the populous?
Oh bugger default on all current deals....go back 3 spaces...
Oh well at least there is free parking.......
200
Jul 13th, 2014 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's like stumbling through dissipating pockets of fog trying to understand your posts...one minute I see the light and the next I'm engulfed and lost....
I don't think it's Goggle Translate, I think you think you understand words and what they mean and which order to put them in.....but apparently you don't.....
When I want cryptic...I'll tackle the Times crossword, thank you...
202
Have we gone in a full circle again....back to telling other posters what they can and can't say...didn't you learn from the first time...?
Would you like me to count how many of your posts in the last week have had nothing to do with an article....?
If it keeps you busy, go ahead, start counting!
Jul 13th, 2014 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Haha!
Turnip at (206)
Jul 13th, 2014 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Whattttt?.....
No update about your poor rich Venezuelan family suffering because they can't find spare parts for their 2013 Camaros ?
Poor Rich? Isn't that one of Stevie's idiotic descriptors?
Jul 13th, 2014 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Personas bleeding through again?
Funny a long while ago it seemed like every Rg commie on the board was a Nordic Retornado now we seem to have overabundance of Scots with no connection to Argentina.
Odd that.
Seems to me Austral Elvis is terrified or maybe he knows he's too stupid to negotiate with NML. I wonder which it is? The self realization that he's merely the smartest monkey in the zoo may be the breakthrough they need to finally succeed.
@205
Jul 13th, 2014 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not particularly, I was just re stating what you and your chum have said in your previous posts and picking up the discrepancies?
For example think is saying you have allegiances to a crown which hasn't existed for over 300 years and your saying your not. Simple?
saying you don't like people sticking their nose in another's argument (which you then did). Simple?
I don't think you can handle the times crossword, unless it was yesterday's one and you already had the answers....
Thunko - thanks for your concern, the family and vehicles are all fine.
Jul 13th, 2014 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:-)
Airline tickets are hard to find though.
Already two airlines, Air Canada and Alitalia, have suspended their operations altogether in Venezuela, and more than a dozen have drastically reduced their number of flights. American Airlines, one of the airlines that flew the most between Venezuela and the United States, has cut down from 48 to 10 flights per week, and Delta Air Lines is the latest to have joined this group. On Tuesday, Delta said it wil decrease its flights to Venezuela to ONE per week.
Maduro is reluctant to negotiate.
“The airline that leaves Venezuela in these circumstances won’t return to this country while we are on power,” the tosser stated during a press conference.
Maduro said that airlines don’t have any excuse to suspend their flights, and that Venezuelan officials will be the ones taking measures against the airlines if they don’t keep up with their regular flights. “We are a reliable payer,” said this genius of international trade.
According to the International Air Transport Association, the overall airline debt already surpasses US$4.2 billion, almost a fifth of the country’s international reserves.
He owes them money, but now threatens to 'take action' against them?
So, there you have it, another socialist paradise massively in debt which it won't pay...
Not so clever is he, this MasBurro chap? Should have stuck to driving the bus.
207 Think
Jul 13th, 2014 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh dear....Mr Think...you gave him an opening.....you are not supposed to mention the V word...
Calling all those Commonwealth supporters on here.....
Are you readying for the Commonwealth Games...?
Anyone want to see the Queens Baton I just photographed half an hour ago in the Scottish Highlands...beautiful day for it...;-))))
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2924/14665212903_ecb96b63c7_z.jpg
Well he asked for it!
Jul 13th, 2014 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOL!!!!!!!!
212
Jul 13th, 2014 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting answers “Mr. Ilsen”.
I had no trouble hearing you over the background static.
Haha hahaha!
Jul 13th, 2014 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#211
Jul 13th, 2014 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see you were standing about 200 yards from the Marina on the Shore road, near the bus stop and kid's playground on the shore.
I could not be bothered when it passed through Ayr. It would have been impossible to park anywhere near the route.
215
Jul 13th, 2014 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are spot on Clyde....I said Hi to our mutual friend Peter....then I took a photo of him...look at the puzzled look on his face, he's looking directly at me and not the road....
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2900/14645270015_0ed4bb9ee7_z.jpg
...he's wearing his favourites.......do you remember my description...
......I tell no lies folks....;-)
(211) A_Voice
Jul 13th, 2014 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing near so exciting happened down here in Chubut today...
I could perhaps post a Warholian picture of them dogs inhaling their food as usual...
:-)
217 Think
Jul 13th, 2014 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you are me Mr.Think we know exactly where you were today....
...and if not...a lot of people are going to feel pretty stupid....;-)))
(218) A_Voice
Jul 13th, 2014 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jupppppppppppppppppppppp.....
I “Think” our cunning plan is working.....
Let's hope that the turnips don't find out that Mr. Clyde15 is one of “us”.....
:-)))))))
219 Think
Jul 13th, 2014 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0.....clever...;-)))
Looks like the Scottish mutual masterbation club is back.
Jul 13th, 2014 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Get a room guys! There must be a friendly guesthouse nearby.
All the best, Mr(s) ilsen xx
You got the masturbation club bit right bit there is nothing mutual about it unless you're talking about his left and right hand. Both characters are played by the same person. It's just Think.
Jul 14th, 2014 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's Pantomime season again.
Jul 14th, 2014 - 03:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Which end of the horse is “Think”, do you 'think'?
It's Pantomime season again......“Oh no it isn't”
Jul 14th, 2014 - 09:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0#216
Jul 14th, 2014 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have only ever seen him in his “working gear” or more formal attire.
I also have told no lies.
Soooo many Scots replacing the Nordic Retornados that used to post here.
Jul 14th, 2014 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So many.
I wonder why its Scotland now?
Hmm
:)
#226
Jul 14th, 2014 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why not ? How many are there, please tell .
About the same as the Nordic Retornados that used to be here until some brilliant person pointed out it was mathematically impossible to have so many on one small board.
Jul 15th, 2014 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then they disappeared en mass only to have the Scots turn up as their replacements all at about the same time.
I can't be the only one to think that is a bit coincidental.
:)
The ratio of Scots to other Brits is 10%.. so in theory there should be one Scot to every 10 other Brits on here....so count up....
Jul 15th, 2014 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aren't Scots also Brits? And that isn't even the ratio I am talking about. The ratio of Scots/ All Posters, but consider, Scots that have some sort of connection to South America, Argentina or the Falklands and somehow found this tiny little site.
Jul 15th, 2014 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The USA is 100s of times larger than Scotland and from my count there're only 2-3 regular posters from here AND we both are connected to Argentina in some way.
See where I am going with this.
Same thing awhile back with the over abundance of Nordic Retornados.
Just a little too many to be believable
Then they all left at the same time
and
were replace with very similarly thinking Scots.
But I am sure it is all coincidental.
The original title of this news-site was.
Jul 15th, 2014 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mercopress The Falklands and South Atlantic News Agency.
As the Falklands is a BOT why wouldn't Brits visit the site...the question would be WTF has North Atlantic ...USA got to do with it....
So you will only get a few Yanks with connections to SA and that's it.
Any Brit that types a search on the Falklands will be led to Mercopress....so the number of Scots to the rest of the Brits will be 10%...Simple!!
So...how many Brits visit here...?...let's say 50...?
Name the 5 that have claimed Scottish as a Nationality....
Actually I just searched Falklands, BOT, British Overseas Territory through Google and Google News MP didn't come up on ANY of the 2st page of the searches.
Jul 15th, 2014 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So they'd have to be looking pretty hard to find this very small site. Then take the time to post...regularly.
Doesn't make a lot of sense.
We don't have 50 regular posters.
Falklanders would obviously be here, English speaking Rgs, Mainland British...not so much.
So the amount of Scots is extremely high..too high.
BTW what's your connection to either The Falklands or Argentina? You are anti-English and you more often than not side with the posters who are clearly pro-K.
So what is it? What brought you here?
You are searching from a USA location it has a different search criteria from a UK search.....try changing your location in the settings, you will see it's different.
Jul 15th, 2014 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If I search from the UK and just type Falklands.....second page half way down...Mercopress!
Mercopress is also listed as a Falklands newspaper if you do a search on Falklands newspapers....
Me...I'm just nosey....I side with a post on it's merits and that is all...
#232
Jul 15th, 2014 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who are you ? How do I know you are a bona fide American ?
So you set the criterion as to the permitted nationality of posters ?
“Voice”, whatever his opinions, lives in Scotland. I am 100% sure of that.
His nationality I do not know except he says he is not British.
I am Scottish/British.
My parents, grand parents, great grandparents and as far back as records go were Scottish. We have been here so long that we even had our own boat at the flood !
I came on to the site when I heard that Argentina were starting trouble again. I am also interested in Gibraltar as my brother served with 224 Squadron RAF out there and my sister was a nursing Sister at St,Bernard's Hospital in the late 60's. She still has friends there.
I don't give a monkey's about Argentina except as it affects the British territories in the Falklands and sub-Antarctic islands.
As to “Think”, I have no idea and really don't care. He has his own agenda to snipe and belittle the Falklanders at every turn. Why he pretends to be “interested in Scotland is probably to try and cause dissent.
I know a couple of other posters say they are Scottish and they seem genuine to me.
SO........what is your point ? Name the ones that you think are Scottish or impersonating Scots. Maybe C### is actually Scottish and an ”agent provocateur”!
There is another possibility, one of the staff at MercoPress has a Scottish name. Maybe he is just throwing in wild cards to keep the pot stirring!
I'm not Scottish.
Jul 15th, 2014 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0hth!
(hope that helps)
hee hee!
234. It would make sense that there was 1 legitimate Scot on the board with ties to the Falklands or Argentina.
Jul 15th, 2014 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Any more is questionable as to their intentions and legitimacy.
Voice, Were you not berating me a few days ago saying I was clearly not American. Am I now simply because it proves your point?
You're a windbag and a fool and
About as logical as Thicko and Toby.
You may think this a little weird, but....I always got the distinct impression that Mr. Think was a journalist at Mercopress and travels a lot, has been to the Falklands several times and maybe even lived in the UK at some point, but not anymore.
Jul 15th, 2014 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0His humour certainly has a UK ring to it....
...sorry Mr. Think, was just an impression....
237. Think is the king of logical fallacies.
Jul 15th, 2014 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0His posts are more sad than clever or funny.
238
Jul 15th, 2014 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0American humour is closer to slapstick....UK humour is closer to sarcasm than slapstick....
First time I was in the States, I tried to explain I was taking the piss...they thought I meant I was pissed (annoyed)...
...and taking the piss, when you think about it..is not clever and not funny....but it is to Brits...
(234) Clyde15
Jul 15th, 2014 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) I have indeed my own agenda...
... I'll snipe and belittle any Anglo Turnip that tries to justify the unjustifiable.... The Engrish colonisation of the Argentinean territories in Malvinas and the South-Atlantic Islands ...
2) I'm genuinely interested in Scotland and, as with Ireland & Wales, I just can't avoid identifying with the locals “Sceptical” approach to their Big Sassenach brothers...
3) You, Mt. Stuart and that short stump, Mr. Escoces Doido sound quite Scottish to me...
One can almost hear your rrrrrrrolling RRRRRRR's ;-)
(237) A_Voice
1) I have no professional relationship with MercoPress whatsoever...
2) My humour is typical Scandinavian...
We forced it into the British DNA some 1300 years ago.. ;-)
240 Think
Jul 15th, 2014 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I thought you might respond to that one....;-)
If you tell me something isn't so...then I'm inclined to believe you.....end of that thought that's been rattling around....
...yep the humour must have come from somewhere.....
Sickening and
Jul 15th, 2014 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It makes my skin crawl.
. It would make sense that there was 1 legitimate Scot on the board with ties to the Falklands or Argentina.
Jul 15th, 2014 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Any more is questionable as to their intentions and legitimacy.
OK, you are doubting the“Scots” on this forum. As I said in my last post, name the ones that are not Scottish but “pretend to be so”.
Insinuation is easy but “facts are chiels that winnae ding”
I am a legitimate Scot and have a birth certificate to prove it....my parents were married for 9 years before I arrived.
For God's sake, my countrymen fought and some died for the Falklands. Don't you think that is enough reason for me and other Scots to be interested in their future ? I understand you have some interest in Argentina but I would say that the Falklands are none of the USA's business.
#240
I hear what you say BUT there are no Argentinean territories in the Falklands or the sub-Antarctic islands. As a first generation Argentinean immigrant, you have bought into the great Malvinas myth.
It would appear that we are on the Magic Roundabout again!
Time for bed says Zebedee.
If you have a sense of humour then you must have Norwegian or Danish antecedents. According to some Danes I met if you are in Sweden, in a bar, and you see groups of people laughing , they will either be Danes or Norwegians. The po-faced ones will be the Swedes.
(243) Clyde15
Jul 15th, 2014 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) As a 200'th generation subjugated Scot, you seem to have bought into the great Sassenach myth that anything they can grab belongs to them...
2) Always remember to take anything one Scandinavian national says about another Scandinavian national with a pinch of salt...
If you “Think” the Sassenachs were unkind to you Scots at times..., you should read about how Scandinavians have abused and slaughtered each other for centuries on end...
Anyone remember me saying The SOY crop could in no way make up for the HUGE drop in other exports.
Jul 15th, 2014 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah it happened.
BTW it looks like SOY is making its way to a new low. Already under $450.
I wonder what's break even in Argentina?
It's probably already under that.
245 Thanks YB
Jul 16th, 2014 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Most of this thread has been ThinkVoices pantomime about himself, an anti-English Arg “implanted” in Scotland, talking about himself.
Off-Topic,
Nothing to do with Holdouts Thinkey-doo.
@240: ”1) I have indeed my own agenda...
Jul 16th, 2014 - 05:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0... I'll snipe and belittle any Anglo Turnip that tries to justify the unjustifiable.... The Engrish colonisation of the Argentinean territories in Malvinas and the South-Atlantic Islands ...”
It's a sort of Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, then? It's just a shame that the Congregation consists largely of sock puppets, while the Defence of the Faith relies upon racism and misogyny rather than reason. It all seems rather un-Scandinavian, although I guess this can happen when the culture is transplanted out of its natural habitat into a colonial one.
#244
Jul 16th, 2014 - 05:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's YOU that has bought into your own myth that anything that Argentina can grab belongs to them. When you start talking about Scotland, you really do peddle a total load of crap ! You have NO idea what the people here think. As to subjugation by the English, I don't think that the English would agree with that - rather the reverse.
If you are not Scottish then you have no right to use the word Sassenach in a pejorative manner. It's the equivalent of non-blacks using the N word.
You keep dragging up ancient history as if it still applies today, as in the national obsession of your government about the Falklands.
How this pearl of the S.Atlantic was usurped by wicked colonialists about 200 years ago, (-your version, not mine) - while your country was raping and pillaging it's way down South. Yes, Argentina tried to usurp the Falklands but were shown off.
As to peoples being unkind to other peoples at times, this was the way of life for everyone back in the dark/middle ages. The stronger preyed on the weaker. Argentina is still living in it's colonial past by trying to do this with Falkland islanders.
It looks like CFK doesn't like her own methods of debating through newspapers being used against them.
Jul 16th, 2014 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Austral Elvis looked pretty out of his comfort zone trying to explain why they refuse to negotiate.
These silly fools think they're winning by losing.
I hope they default.
I would love to see Rgs thrown out of their non-embassy property in the USA.
or
The LNG being seized while its on its way from Montevideo to MDP.
That would be great because they have no excess capacity and buy only when they're desperate.
August in perfect for that.
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