Russian President Vladimir Putin signed on Saturday a nuclear energy cooperation deal with Argentina on the third stop (Cuba, Nicaragua) of a tour to bolster trade ties and strengthen Russia’s influence in Latin America. Read full article
Just hope Argentina doesn't get confused between nuclear power and nuclear weapons.
As they often do when referring to nuclear powered submarine, cannot imagine why.
Living in Uruguay as I do, this offer by the world's worst atomic power safety record holder fills me with dread, especially as (eventually, if built) they will be managed by argie experts who know fuck all about SAFE design and operation of medical isotope plants never mind the real thing.
We will have to see if the 'offer' is taken up by the losers across the Plate.
Odd announcement, haven't we heard that Arg is a world leader in nuclear technology and a big exporter of such?
If that is the case why would they partner with a country with an even worse track record?
This is merely more propaganda ie bullet train to Rosario, train tunnel to Chile.
It will never happen.
Every country that has nuclear energy contaminates. There is no such thing as clean nuclear energy... Let´s look at Britain´s track record:
1) In the seventies there was a fire at WINDSCALE releasing radio active isotope lodine-131 which causes cancer. (The facts were not made public for 30 years)
2)1967 fire and partial meltdown at CHAPELCROSS with contamination contained in the reactor.
3)1983 government forced to abandon dumping of low and intermediate level nuclear waste in The Atlantic.
4) 2005 Uranium and Plutonium leak from cracked pips at THOR, sellasfield.
5)2009 A secret report by the government chief nuclear inspector, Mike Weightman,shows more than 1.750 leaks meltdowns at nuclear plants over the last seven years.
6) The operator of Sellasfield, Britain´s biggest nuclear complex , is heavily fined following safety lapses, which led to the radioactive contamination of staff........
so you see not only the Russians had problems with nuclear energy....
It's okay; at least you realise now that it was a useless comment.
Like with all Argentine announcements after a meeting with a world leader we only hear from Argentina. I'll believe it when they turn the key to fire up the first plant.
4 Chris R : Let me inform you that the first nuclear power plant (in Argentina and Latin America), called ATUCHA I, began operation in 1974. It was supplied by SIEMENS, and during FORTY YEARS, up to the present day, managed and operated by argentines, provided nucleo-electricity to the Capital, to Buenos Aires province, and sometimes (a very pleasant feature in dealing with your comment) to Uruguay, without harm, either personal or environmental. So, we see no reason to feel as losers on this particular plant. Certainly, technical difficulties appeared, but were solved.
To 15 Briton: Please, be kind enough to read my former comment to 4Chris R. I hope it will answer your worries about running before walking. Furthermore, Cordoba´s CENTRAL NUCLEAR EMBALSE is generating electric energy since 1983, and its only noxious output has been a very funny legend about a three-eyed fish that appeared in the dam´s lake.
Nuclear energy is the in thing today,
and probably the power of the near future,
we think one would say , Argentina using nuclear power / energy is not the problem,
the problem as always is the governments, who may or may not use it for other military purposes,
if you get my meaning..
thanks.
@21 I don't think the Americans would allow Argentina to use nuclear power for military purposes. Just look what they did with Iran. Even the Peronists know this (I hope...)
Thankfully Chile is slightly protected with the Andes and winds generally blowing eastwardly, but I'm sure that Argentina will properly safeguard their facilities to avoid minor technical complications such as Chernobyl...
If you really want to understand my sarcasm of my Andean neighbors, just read an independent review of their navy, army and/or air force. They just are not capable of responsibly managing a major infrastructure project without corruption.
So Ras-Putin is om a Lat-Am tour to seek new allies and new business? perhaps he should refer to the World Bank Data?
Best countries to do business with? Best = 1 of 189, ok?
In alphabetical order for his tour..
Argentina - 126
Brazil - 116
Cuba - not listed (!)
Nicauragua - 123
I hear the sound of a barrel being scraped here...
As it seems that the Argentine Nuclear Plan continues to breed misgivings, let me add some facts, and some common sense.:
To 21Briton. Yes, I think I get your point. But a nuclear military policy, costly and dangerous as it surely would be,loudly claims, first and foremost, for OBJECTIVES. Now, let us imagine ourselves as the world´s worst imperialist champions, and turn our eyes over our frontiers, considering our own huge resources and rather small population . Can we find any foreign possesions WORTHY of the devastation of a nuclear war..?. The question answers by itself.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesJust hope Argentina doesn't get confused between nuclear power and nuclear weapons.
Jul 14th, 2014 - 08:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0As they often do when referring to nuclear powered submarine, cannot imagine why.
Russia hasn't got the best track record in the world with nuclear power stations....
Jul 14th, 2014 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0My thoughts exactly.
Jul 14th, 2014 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0What they going to call them, Chernobyl1 and Chernobyl2?
If you got to have them, stick with the French, they will deliver a much safer product, though surprisingly enough, they won't pay for them!
Living in Uruguay as I do, this offer by the world's worst atomic power safety record holder fills me with dread, especially as (eventually, if built) they will be managed by argie experts who know fuck all about SAFE design and operation of medical isotope plants never mind the real thing.
Jul 14th, 2014 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0We will have to see if the 'offer' is taken up by the losers across the Plate.
Novochernobyl
Jul 14th, 2014 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Odd announcement, haven't we heard that Arg is a world leader in nuclear technology and a big exporter of such?
Jul 14th, 2014 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If that is the case why would they partner with a country with an even worse track record?
This is merely more propaganda ie bullet train to Rosario, train tunnel to Chile.
It will never happen.
...And if the Russians finance it, how would the Argentines pay them back?
Jul 14th, 2014 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With more bonds...?
Every country that has nuclear energy contaminates. There is no such thing as clean nuclear energy... Let´s look at Britain´s track record:
Jul 14th, 2014 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) In the seventies there was a fire at WINDSCALE releasing radio active isotope lodine-131 which causes cancer. (The facts were not made public for 30 years)
2)1967 fire and partial meltdown at CHAPELCROSS with contamination contained in the reactor.
3)1983 government forced to abandon dumping of low and intermediate level nuclear waste in The Atlantic.
4) 2005 Uranium and Plutonium leak from cracked pips at THOR, sellasfield.
5)2009 A secret report by the government chief nuclear inspector, Mike Weightman,shows more than 1.750 leaks meltdowns at nuclear plants over the last seven years.
6) The operator of Sellasfield, Britain´s biggest nuclear complex , is heavily fined following safety lapses, which led to the radioactive contamination of staff........
so you see not only the Russians had problems with nuclear energy....
And for every one you can find in Russia or the former Soviet Union, you can bet you Ass, there were a hundred more!
Jul 14th, 2014 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 8 aussietwattee
Jul 14th, 2014 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I cover your points 1)-6) but raise you a Chernobyl.
I think I win.
Idiot.
10) Another useless comment !!!
Jul 14th, 2014 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fire at Windscale in the 70s? They kept that one quiet, probably because of the one in the 50s.
Jul 14th, 2014 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you think she is indicating the size of Putins todger?
Jul 14th, 2014 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What fire, Windscale..? Never heard of it, this place is called Sellafield...
Jul 14th, 2014 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently that worked a treat....
Is this not Argentina nuclularing the south Atlantic via, Russia,
Jul 14th, 2014 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can she afford this, [ Russia will pay] but at what cost to argentina,
It seems perhaps she is running before she has learned to walk.
But some will ask,,, can she be trusted with it, and will it be safe.
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@8
Jul 14th, 2014 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, I see. Somebody else has had a problem. Therefore there can't be anything to worry about in Argentina.
Where's Toby?
11 ASS
Jul 15th, 2014 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's okay; at least you realise now that it was a useless comment.
Like with all Argentine announcements after a meeting with a world leader we only hear from Argentina. I'll believe it when they turn the key to fire up the first plant.
4 Chris R : Let me inform you that the first nuclear power plant (in Argentina and Latin America), called ATUCHA I, began operation in 1974. It was supplied by SIEMENS, and during FORTY YEARS, up to the present day, managed and operated by argentines, provided nucleo-electricity to the Capital, to Buenos Aires province, and sometimes (a very pleasant feature in dealing with your comment) to Uruguay, without harm, either personal or environmental. So, we see no reason to feel as losers on this particular plant. Certainly, technical difficulties appeared, but were solved.
Jul 15th, 2014 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0@aussiesunshineeeeeee
Jul 15th, 2014 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where are you from and where do you live now? Why won't you tell us?
Embarrassed are you?
As for the article, I don't believe it will ever actually happen. More smoke and mirrors from Ras-Putin....
To 15 Briton: Please, be kind enough to read my former comment to 4Chris R. I hope it will answer your worries about running before walking. Furthermore, Cordoba´s CENTRAL NUCLEAR EMBALSE is generating electric energy since 1983, and its only noxious output has been a very funny legend about a three-eyed fish that appeared in the dam´s lake.
Jul 15th, 2014 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nuclear energy is the in thing today,
Jul 16th, 2014 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0and probably the power of the near future,
we think one would say , Argentina using nuclear power / energy is not the problem,
the problem as always is the governments, who may or may not use it for other military purposes,
if you get my meaning..
thanks.
@21 I don't think the Americans would allow Argentina to use nuclear power for military purposes. Just look what they did with Iran. Even the Peronists know this (I hope...)
Jul 16th, 2014 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thankfully Chile is slightly protected with the Andes and winds generally blowing eastwardly, but I'm sure that Argentina will properly safeguard their facilities to avoid minor technical complications such as Chernobyl...
Jul 16th, 2014 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you really want to understand my sarcasm of my Andean neighbors, just read an independent review of their navy, army and/or air force. They just are not capable of responsibly managing a major infrastructure project without corruption.
Of course Argentina will promise to NOT supply 'rogue nations' with weapons-grade material. The G77 nations of the world (+ Russia) will believe them.
Jul 16th, 2014 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some would consider this to be foolhardy - but at least we can rely on Israel to correct the stupidity.
22@
Jul 16th, 2014 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you may well be correct,
So Ras-Putin is om a Lat-Am tour to seek new allies and new business? perhaps he should refer to the World Bank Data?
Jul 17th, 2014 - 02:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Best countries to do business with? Best = 1 of 189, ok?
In alphabetical order for his tour..
Argentina - 126
Brazil - 116
Cuba - not listed (!)
Nicauragua - 123
I hear the sound of a barrel being scraped here...
As it seems that the Argentine Nuclear Plan continues to breed misgivings, let me add some facts, and some common sense.:
Jul 17th, 2014 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To 21Briton. Yes, I think I get your point. But a nuclear military policy, costly and dangerous as it surely would be,loudly claims, first and foremost, for OBJECTIVES. Now, let us imagine ourselves as the world´s worst imperialist champions, and turn our eyes over our frontiers, considering our own huge resources and rather small population . Can we find any foreign possesions WORTHY of the devastation of a nuclear war..?. The question answers by itself.
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