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Brazil insists in trade agreements and closer ties with Pacific Alliance, despite Mercosur
Brazil confirmed that it will try to bring forward to 2016 the free trade agreement with Chile, Peru and Colombia, scheduled for 2019 and underlined the need for Mercosur and the Pacific Alliance to converge as part of the region's productive integration process. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesBrazil is shackled to Argentina and Venezuela with their myopic governments.
Aug 08th, 2014 - 08:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thankfully no one in the Pacific Alliance is so encumbered. If such an agreement is put in place (highly likely), you can bet that it will be extremely beneficial to the Pacific Alliance economies which are based on outward and open policies.
The fact that Ecuador has just signed a trade agreement with the EU and Brazil has been unable to, shows how powerless and restricted Brazil is.
If Brazil wants to really go ahead economically, it's got to put aside all the political ideology bullshit and start to deal with countries that effectively have something to offer. While Rouseff and the PT put their friendship with Argentina and Venezuela above the national interest, Brazil will go nowhere, except down the drain.
Aug 08th, 2014 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brazil has thrown away the chance to become a first world country by sticking with The Dark Country and showing scant regard for the rule of constitutional law as practiced by Paraguay and other correctly governed countries.
Aug 08th, 2014 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The nonsense with the US over spying and ‘phone tapping showed how shallow Dilma is and how arrogant to think she can operate a system remote from the ‘net but giving her citizens the same opportunities as the www.
What is it with these cretins that ‘rule’ countries in SA? They can’t all have been dropped on their heads at birth, can they?
Given the abuse Dilma has shown Mr. Market they have very little chance of expanding exports for the foreseeable future: that takes money and who in their right mind would invest in them with Dilma and The Liar Mantega ‘in charge’? It’s farcical to even imagine it without wholesale fiscal changes and the reining in of the unions.
It will be another dreary old 4 years if Dilmas lot get back in, and I'd doubt a trade agreement anywhere unless with someone like Turkmenistan.
Aug 08th, 2014 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lula 2018
Aug 09th, 2014 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lula 2019
Brazil´s the king of commodities, they can´t become a manufacturing export machine because their currency is too overvalued for manufacturers to compete in the world, their protectionism doesn´t help either. But if they are to pursue free-trade agreements with other countries in the region, then surely Brazilian industries will find a way to compete. They just need to open up to the world a little.
Aug 09th, 2014 - 02:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Drop Argentina. Drop Venezuela.
Aug 09th, 2014 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is the only way forward.
Sovereign nations, sovereign decisions. If Brazil sees it so, then they should go ahead with other trade agreements.
Aug 09th, 2014 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am smart enough to know the world is not a one-size fits all. Whats good for Brazil may not be good for Argentina and viceversa.
Lula : b. 27/10/45
Aug 09th, 2014 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lula : d. 26/10/14
A free trade treaty with the EU is about as useful for Argentina as an extra pair of eyes at the bottom of one's feet.
Aug 11th, 2014 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course, being Chinese,and only recently learnt English, you presume to be an expert?
Aug 11th, 2014 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bhaaahahaha!
Tobi you are hilarious!
The article is about Brazil you twat.
What are you talking about?
Aug 11th, 2014 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was diagnosed with a case of Dissociative Fugue. I'm Argentine.
Omg!
Aug 12th, 2014 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You get more crazy every day!
Bwahahahahahah! !!!
Closer ties with the PA is a good thing. But lets be realistic. The Chilean economy is about the same size as that of one Brazilian state. Like wise with countries such as Peru and Ecuador. So, to the extent that closer relations are about anything at all, they are about Mexico. But, of course, Mexico is not a large enough country to be a key to Brazil's future.
Aug 13th, 2014 - 05:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Brazil's future can only be found in Africa.
@14 Hippy... what the hell does Brazil expect to trade with Africa ?? Just for your information, our ex-Idiot...erhhh, ex-President Lula, when he came to power 12 years ago, decided to turn his back on the USA and Europe, because, in his “'brilliant”' mind, Africa was the future. He adopted this posture for several reasons, none of which would benefit Brazil, but that is not relevant now....the fact is that trade between Brazil and Africa is not going to be the solution for Brazil's future.
Aug 13th, 2014 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brazil has dug themselves into a hole because of their agricultural strength, very doubtful if decent blocks like the EU or North America will actually want to do a deal because their constituents will push back. Brazil has no choice and must do deals with the Pacific Alliance and develop supply chains working with other countries, that means they must go it alone, and must conform to the rules. Not an easy route with the populist idiots in power.
Aug 13th, 2014 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Brazil's future can only be found in Africa.”
Aug 13th, 2014 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0YES, down at the level of Zimbabwe.
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/08/08/brazil-insists-in-trade-agreements-and-closer-ties-with-pacific-alliance-despite-mercosur#comment344650: No doubt your observation regarding “supply chains” is correct. But that only addresses the industrial infrastructure. Where is the large and growing markets? Certainly not in the PA for the reasons I have already given.
Aug 14th, 2014 - 03:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0As a set, the countries on the continent of Africa have the world's largest growth rates. The fact is that if Brazil wants to grow then it cannot ignore this. It also helps that Brazil is the closest large country to Africa.
@18
Aug 14th, 2014 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The fact tat Africa, according to you, “has the world's largest growth rates”, in what way is that growth, which can presumably be translated into riches, well-being, i.e., quality of life, filtering down to the general population ?? it is notorious that most African populations live in abject poverty, surrounded by disease and corrupt governments....how does that, in your mind, mean growth ?
If Brazil wants to establish trading partners, it must look into the future to see whether the partners offer reciprocity , if they are reliable, good payers, able to sustain a productive swap. Other than oil in a few West African countries, Africa has little to offer Brazil ; An exception maybe South Africa, more industrialized, provided Jacob Zuma doesn't take it down the same path Rhodesia went. I lived in West Africa for the better part of 5 years, and believe me, it doesn't have what it takes.
I wonder if there is a link with the abrupt UNASUR meeting cancellation...
Aug 15th, 2014 - 05:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2014/08/08/brazil-insists-in-trade-agreements-and-closer-ties-with-pacific-alliance-despite-mercosur#comment344899: In 1940 Asia was a basket case. It was either ruled by foreign occupiers, fascists or no coherent government at all. These governments where oppressive, corrupt and illegitimate. The people of Asia were living in abject poverty. Their economies were primitive. From the point of view of 1940 very few people were predicting that by 1980 the consensus would be that the future was to be found in Asia. And so the future has arrived.
Aug 16th, 2014 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Economic growth in Africa is an objective fact. And it is sustained. This has real consequences for Africa and its political and social structure.
The future is the space in which we all live. It is not possible for anybody to live successfully in the past. And so it is for countries.
@21....trying to compare Africa to Asia is like comparing you to someone with a brain. If you built a wall around Africa and tore it down in 100 years , it wouldn't have gone ahead one iota...Real progress takes a lot more than just some wishful thinking....
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