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Falklands and 4.7m sq. km. of the South Atlantic, claimed by Argentina

Friday, August 8th 2014 - 08:06 UTC
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“Argentina has its eyes set on the South Atlantic, and that includes undoubtedly the full recovery of our sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands and the adjoining maritime spaces”, said Daniel Filmus head of Argentina's Office on issues relative to the Malvinas Islands. Read full article

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  • golfcronie

    Huge military base PML,LOL,LMAO
    The FALKLANDS belong to the FALKLANDERS get over it.

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 08:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Huge military base?

    I bet Filmus also reckons 4” is huuuuge!

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 08:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    'the most important military base in the region'
    bigger than anything in RGland thats for sure....

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    This is pure hogwash for home consumption. The Vienna Convention Law on Treaties confirms that treaties are applicable to ALL sovereign territory. Therefore UNCLOS and the 200 nautical miles of Exclusive Economic Zones around the Falkland Islands, South Georgia, South Sandwich Islands belong to the UK. Furthermore, the International Law Commission quoted the ICJ Namibia opinion of 1971 which confirmed that even where there 'could' be a sovereignty dispute, the governing factor was 'the responsibility of the country that exercised control over the territory.'

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    Here is the irrefutable proof of Argentina's claim to South Georgia. It consists of a picture of two foundered sealing vessels with blue and white stripes on the mast. Apparently this once appeared on a stamp.

    http://www.irizar.org/819puglisi-georgias.pdf

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    Argentina's claims are irrelevant and it is right they are ignored.

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    They have a sub on the seabed down there so that further legitimises their claim....

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    It's worth pointing out that the only news organization who reports all this “ Malvinas ” stuff is Murkypress .
    In Argentina itself , none of this stuff is reported anymore because people's eyes simply glaze over . No one is interested .
    When there are demonstrations at cruise ships or the Embassy , the demonstrators are being paid and hardly know why they are there , it's not some spontaneous demonstration of people's anger .
    Murkypress should pack in this constant reporting of Falkland /Malvinas “tensions ” because the arguments on the forums are all rehashes of the same arguments anyway .

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    The only thing that's “huge” (military base delusion) is his tortured Ego.

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    You wish, Filmus, you idiot.
    @7 Frank,
    LOL! Very witty.
    l still say that it should have been displayed in a park or something, to let the kids play on it & the tourists to take photos.
    (or sold for scrap)

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Self-Determination

    Poor chap he has to justify his wages I guess.

    Flogging a well dead horse springs to mind.

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Let's get something clear, Filmus. You're an arse. You know what Britain can do. Militarily, it can wipe argieland off the planet in about 30 minutes. Diplomatically and politically it might take a little longer. But here's the bottom line. Title to and sovereignty over the Falkland Islands, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands begins on 14 June 1982. And those territories are British! Britain is entitled to defend them to the full extent of its capabilities. What do we think the full extent of its capabilities might be? In 1982, Britain sent less than 10% of its armed forces to evict a bunch of squatters with delusions of grandeur. It confined its actions to the Islands. It had 80s level capabilities. In the future, will it deploy its full 21st century capabilities? Land Attack cruise missiles from fleet submarines. Tanker refuelling over entire distance. Airborne reinforcement. And the big ones. Still, if gabbling away to the uneducated masses makes you happy.

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ekeko

    Filmus has actually hit the nail on the head when he says that dialogue is the only solution as all other options have either been used up or would be laughed at.

    Unfortunately the argentine pantomime psyche cannot understand that everything involving the falklands and surrounding territory including dialogue is between the islanders and whoever they wish to speak to.

    Strange that the aforementioned psyche knows the address and email of the ICJ in regards to paper mills and contract law in regards to bonds issued, but forgets it when it comes to territorial disputes....

    But hey you can't have everything....

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Filmus should get a proper job. What a pack of lies?

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    So much cant and hypocrisy it is difficult to know where to begin:

    “Argentina has its eyes set on the South Atlantic, and that includes undoubtedly the full recovery of our sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands and the adjoining maritime spaces”, said Daniel Filmus ......”
    Argentina has its eyes set on the south Atlantic! A land grab by a fascist regime that thinks it is living in centuries past. I am sure the rest of the world, especially the signatories to the Antarctic treaty, will willingly go along with the illegal annexation of a huge swath of the south Atlantic and Antarctica. It is unlikely that any of argentina’s imaginary ‘friends’ would support the land grab that he is proposing, why should they?

    “the sustainable development of the area and preserving the environment”.
    That means the plunder of the areas resources and who cares about the environment?

    ”the most important military base in the region, “set up by the British in the Malvinas and which threatens the peaceful development strategies of the countries that are part of the South Atlantic”.

    A base that is much more impressive than anything argentina has and is therefore an affront to our pride. This base is coming between argentina and its dream of annexations!

    “South Atlantic peace zone” Well it used to be a zone of peace until 1982 when Argentina decided to change that!
    I wonder if Filmus gets paid to produce this chauvinist rubbish! I guess they think that the argentine debt/default crisis is blowing over and they can return to operations normal, bullying their smaller neighbours.
    What a bunch of cowardly dead beats.

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Oh come on guy!

    He is nothing other than TMBOA's Court Jester and he's piss poor at it.

    What else would we laugh at if not this character, oh and Gollum, Kickitoff, CaptainDismal, BouWow, Chicken or Pizza? I'll have to stop I'm PMSL.

    He does speak the truth about the massive military base (in capability) but whose fault is that?

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    I wonder if the Brits and the Falklanders would consider being host to a U.S. resupply station for our Anarctic scientific operations. If so, we could perhaps store a few gallons of petrol and some groceries (and maybe a few extra rounds) down south. Of course there would have to be the necessary security infastructure put in place to protect our facilities as well as those of our friends to which we would be beholden as guests. Obviously this would generate some additional economic activity for the Islands and their citizenry. And there could be fleet training opportunities and further geological research and studies of native speicies and . . .. .

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zool

    I wondered how long it would take before Cristina & Co got out the old Falklands Sabre & started to rattle it around. Nothing like a good distraction to take the peoples minds of her governments dismal failures.

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • YoHoYoHo a Pirates life for me

    21st Century Colonialism!

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Daniel Filmus lying yet again to wit: “We are talking of 4.7 million square kilometers of our territory”

    The Falklands/Malvinas Case Breaking the Deadlock in the Anglo-Argentine...
    By Roberto C. Laver

    p.74

    International Court of Justice (ICJ) in the North Sea continental shelf cases, in which Denmark and the Netherlands based their claim inter alia on the doctrine of proximity, i.e., that the part of the continental shelf closest to the part of the state in question falls automatically under that state's jurisdiction. In these cases the ICJ rejected any contiguity type of approach. As for continuity, it is argued, the 1958 Geneva Convention on the Continental Shelf and Contiguous Zone, Article 1, now contained in the 1982 Law of the Sea Convention, Article 76, does not support the view that coastal states have sovereignty over islands above the continental shelf. On the contary it laid down doctrine that islands had their own “continental shelves,”

    Pretty simple if true, then why doesn't Argentina ask the UNGA to apply for an advisory opinion from the UNICJ. They don't because they know the court would rule against them.

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    If the so-called south America countries backed her claims to illegal stealing of other people land, and she actually got it,
    them these stupid fools would have not a leg to stand on, when she turns to them and says,
    OH bye the way, im claiming all your territories as well,

    fools led by ignorance and greed deserve what they get.
    Oh by the way--------------------------
    The islands were British , are British , and will remain British..

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    @19 would that be The Falklands or realistically Argentina????

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    ”strategic to address British arms buildup in the Malvinas Islands, where they have mounted a huge military base”

    Huge military base? Bwhahaha!

    As military bases go its really very small.......

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JuanGabriel

    I saw the other day there was a celebration in Brasil for 100 years of submarine operations. The Brasilians were very happy to welcome their friends the USS Dallas, HMS Astute, and the French Amethyste. The Peruvian navy also sent a sub. It's unclear whether Argentina was not invited, was invited but non of its subs were fit to leave port, or their offer of sending the Santisima Trinidad was turned down

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @17. No sorry. We remember 1982. Tried to deny us access to our own territory. Get your own “base”. And don't ask for any “assistance”.

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JuanGabriel

    @24 Apologies it was Ambush rather than Astute

    http://www.naval.com.br/blog/2014/08/01/comemoracoes-aos-100-anos-da-forca-de-submarinos/

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    ”to address British arms buildup in the Malvinas Islands, where they have mounted a huge military base”.

    Completed in 1985-has this bonehead only just noticed MPA exists?

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 27 Pete Bog

    But, but, you have fighter planes that fly 'fast' and can shoot the argie junk out of the sky without seeing it.

    And you have boats that don't sink with 30mm Radon cannon that can vaporise the personnel spaces of even a modern warship, so argie junk stands no chance.

    AND you have 15,000,000 British armed forces waiting to annihilate the poor, frightened argie “soldiers” (and I mean that most sincerely folks ala Hughie Green).

    Oh shit I shouldn’t have told them about the reinforced garrison. Ah well, never mind even 1,500 can see off the “Cowards of SA”. :o)

    Aug 08th, 2014 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jmackiej

    Falklands would be a great place to base Trident missile capability.
    Just a thought.

    Aug 09th, 2014 - 03:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    THE FALKLANDS have declared a “ GREEN FIELD PROGRAM ” as opposed to a “ BLUE PAMPA PROGRAM ” basically they are claiming the that South America belongs to them as it OBVIOUSLY lies on the same Continental Shelf as the FALKLANDS and is also in close proximity. So stick that up your oriface ( where the don't shine ) Argie Government. Hows the ICJ judgemenr going? Er! which one you ask, any of them I reply.

    Aug 09th, 2014 - 06:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BOTINHO

    These fellows all love to be seen and heard, so they can get worked up, emotional, and waiving and pointing fingers.

    It is our national right ! It is our sovereignty ! The evil empire is at fault ! “.. and with my dying breath ... ! ”

    What great theatre and a load of hot wind, over fictionalized fantasies. And what a waste of constructive energy.

    One could stick an electrical extension cord somewhere tender on these hot bodies and power a major city for months !

    Aug 09th, 2014 - 07:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Viscount Falkland

    CFK and the next encumbent and all the wise Argentine government ministers should realise that they should be having dialogue with the people of the Falkland Islands because NOTHING is going to happen anywhere,anyway without that dialogue !

    Aug 09th, 2014 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Cheers Filmus, you always make laugh.
    :)

    Aug 09th, 2014 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    '. . . . . for the recovery of the full exercise of our sovereignty over the Malvinas, South Georgia, South Sandwich Islands and the adjoining maritime spaces”.'

    It looks like Argentina itself is following Thinks lead ...'they're ours “because we want them”'

    Aug 09th, 2014 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Filmus is a fool and a failure. He has no plan to actually achieve any of this.

    Aug 09th, 2014 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @28 ChrisR

    Not really fair is it? You'd think we'd give them a sporting chance by towing HMS Victory down there and having the Battle of Britain memorial flight at MPA to give their Diaper jets a chance. Also we could get a battle re-enactment society wearing 14th century armour and using pikestaffs to replace the RIC-but they'd still say the whole of South America was threatened....

    Better not mention that the Meteor air to air missile will enter service within the next few years, plus the RAF F35's(as opposed to those of the Navy) that could use many hardstandings in the Falklands to land and take off on.

    Aug 10th, 2014 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    MPA has apprantly the longest corridor in the world.
    Your not allowed to skateboard it down anymore

    Aug 12th, 2014 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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