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Argentine Euro-bond holders have appealed Griesa's ruling blocking payment

Saturday, August 16th 2014 - 09:01 UTC
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Holders of Euro-denominated Argentine bonds have appealed judge Thomas Griesa's ruling blocking Argentina from making payments on their debt, according to a court filing. Read full article

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  • ChrisR

    Well, we will soon see whether the Euros get a bye.

    I think it will be more of a bye, bye and shut the door on the way out; if only for the fact that all big banks have a branch in NY and the overarching Fed rules will stop them.

    Aug 16th, 2014 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    And where is the money? In a U.S. bank. Forget it europrats. Of course, there is an option. Tell argieland to deposit another 539 million dollars in a European bank. If any European bank will accept such a deposit. Meanwhile, the 539 million dollars in the New York bank can be paid to the holdouts. Argieland couldn't stop it. It's “paid”. No longer its money. A quarter of argie debt paid.

    Aug 16th, 2014 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Don Alberto

    There is little doubt that holders of bond under United Kingdom laws are entitled to be paid. Europe is not under US jurisdiction, and jurisdiction is what counts.

    “Governing Law

    ... interpreted in accordance with, the laws of the State of New York or the laws of England and Wales ...
    Jurisdiction, Consent to Service, Enforceability and Immunities from Attachment
    The securities and the indenture provide that, subject to certain exceptions, Argentina will submit to
    the following courts (to which we refer collectively as ””speciÑed courts'') in connection with any suit, legal
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    action or proceeding against Argentina or its properties, assets or revenues with respect to the securities or
    the indenture:
    o: with respect to securities governed by New York law, any New York State or U.S. federal court sitting in the Borough of Manhattan, The City of New York and the courts of Argentina; and
    o: with respect to the securities governed by English law, the courts of England and the courts of Argentina.

    2005 Original prospectus for Argentina’s 2005 debt exchange
    http://www.mecon.gov.ar/finanzas/download/us_prospectus_and_prospectus_supplement.pdf

    Aug 16th, 2014 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    Hahahah, what a mess.

    Aug 17th, 2014 - 02:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • british bomber

    This is the other court case. What the stupid yank judge doesn't understand is the bonds have nothing to do with America. I think that because the trustees have been so dishonest they will have to be changed. This is just yank arrogance.

    Aug 17th, 2014 - 05:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Don Alberto

    This is not yankee arrogance.

    The problem and confusion stems from the fact, that this issue of bonds are nominated in US dollars, but governed by English law, when they should have been separated in 'US$+US law' and 'Euro+English law' (and Yen+Japanese, Lire+Italian, D-Mark+German, ...), but the clowns didn't.

    Aug 17th, 2014 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    The “money” is in a U.S. bank and under the control of a U.S. court.

    Aug 17th, 2014 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    If the USA judicial system had been more concerned about racial relations in the USA instead of some foreign bonds, perhaps what the world is seeing tonight would not have happened!

    How embarrassing! Argentina is bankrupt and yet there is more civil unrest in the USA than here! hahaha, banana republic up north.

    Aug 18th, 2014 - 03:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • british bomber

    at 6
    Not true. The bonds are in Euros. The law is English. The money is paid into an argie bank. You yanks are really dumb. Try and keep up. Yank arrogance.

    Aug 18th, 2014 - 03:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    The NorthAmoans are now too busy with their little Racial Holy War.

    Oh well, Argentina wins again.

    Aug 18th, 2014 - 05:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #9 well Hep let us know how your bond payments is going without paying them all.

    Aug 18th, 2014 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • british bomber

    The English case is starting to ramp up bit not reported here.

    Aug 19th, 2014 - 06:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Yes of course it is.....yaaaaaaawwwn!!!

    Meanwhile....the Titanic is sinking and went down in less than 2 hours.

    Aug 19th, 2014 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • british bomber

    Looks like the Argies are going to switch away from the trustees. My grandmother has not received any official documents yet. This will happen before the English case can be heard. This will get it away from the stupid yanks.

    Aug 20th, 2014 - 07:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Hep C there are thousands of bondholders....thousands. Where are they getting the records from on who to pay and how much and whom was already paid........BoNY? These are traded bonds and ownership changes on a daily basis.

    Good Luck

    Aug 20th, 2014 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • british bomber

    at 15
    I don't know who hep c is. Nominees have the records.

    Aug 20th, 2014 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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