MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Trust in Argentine reliability has vanished, as a result of the bonds' litigation
Debt talks on Argentina’s defaulted bonds in the hands of holdout hedge funds ultimately collapsed this week due to disagreements over prices and the absence of a government guarantee to honor payments on the paper, sources close to the discussions said. Read full article
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Aug 16th, 2014 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0This clause is only invoked if a voluntary payment is offered. An offer pursuant to a judicial order is involuntary.
Banks don't trust rotting roadkill? Who woulf have guessed that?
Holdouts are finding out buying the bonds is like giving a crack whore your AMEX card.
Aug 16th, 2014 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The government is hiding behind RUFO. What will be their excuse not to negotiate come January?
Aug 16th, 2014 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW. Unless the holdouts agree to Argentina's terms in their entirety, Argentina will always claim that the other side refused to negotiate. Negotiation for this government is some weird thing where you do what they say. In another time and another place they might have called it “dictatorship”
3. yes.
Aug 16th, 2014 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cretina says negotiate but means capitulate.
“Trust in Argentine reliability has vanished, as a result of the bonds' litigation”
Aug 16th, 2014 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Never saw that coming...lol!
As expected, as predicted by myself and many other posters here. No-one outside of Argentina trusts this woman or her corrupt government.
No one INSIDE Argentina with money trusts the Government either. This purchasing bank group partially includes Argentine banks. They don't want to pay full value for the bonds anymore than NML did when they bought them because the risk that they will not be redeemed once bought is very high. By definition, of Goofy and the gang, this would make the banks VULTURES as well. THEY did not loan Argentina a dime, THEY bought them at a steep discount, THEY will want guarantees of payment and THEY will want to be paid face value plus interest. That makes them VULTURES now doesn't it? Well the same shoe is being fitted on a different foot now and I don't hear Goofy saying that they are replacing the old VULTURES with a whole new group of VULTURES. Double standard as usual with people who don't want to be a part of the real world.
Aug 16th, 2014 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're all Argentine patriots. If Argentines would listen to you, Argentina would be a paradise of civilization.
Aug 16th, 2014 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However, for the US Guy, Kirchner's bad outcomes through their awful policy played for the USA in the meat market. You have took all our positions and substituted us in competition. Bad policies from who was once a competitive meat producer, have given the USA a big advantage. You guys should be wanting more Kirchnerism to be playing a functional role for America in the meat market.
how long will she be a bold-faced liar? the longer she lies, the higher the penalties will be after her resignation.
Aug 16th, 2014 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's not me rants TMBOA, but we all know it is her.
Aug 16th, 2014 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TDC are screwed until this idiot is removed, one way or another, preferably 'the other'.
Nod, nod, wink, wink.
cut them loose .....there a failed state .....Who in there right mind would lend them money.....
Aug 16th, 2014 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let us go, or we will flood the world with poor immigrants, and will be all your fault,
Aug 16th, 2014 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0your always picking on us, its your fault for giving us the money in the first place, and now you insult us by demanding it back. She says, whilst sipping her pina calada
It does seem that the kirchner president of argentina is putting her country into financial ruin,and does seem no one around to stop her.
Aug 16th, 2014 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cannot CFK pay the creditors with the billions she stole. Follow the route of the K money
Aug 16th, 2014 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Methinks that is what the holdouts are doing, finding out the link between CFK and Lazaro Baez, the holdouts ought to ask Lanata to visit them with all the information he has on CFK and Baez, must be worth a few million just for the info.
Aug 17th, 2014 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0They'll get a fair price in Jan.
Aug 17th, 2014 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Til then, their blackmail wont bring them the ill gotten gains they crave.
In today's Clarin: “Dicen que los argentinos están ahorrando en moneda boliviana” how's that for trust?
Aug 17th, 2014 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hahahah, what a mess.
Aug 17th, 2014 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0The people who wrote this article are idiots. The bond prices have risen big time. Don't they look.
Aug 17th, 2014 - 05:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Trust in Argentine reliability.
Aug 17th, 2014 - 06:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lmao at that one.
at 19
Aug 17th, 2014 - 06:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0But most in the bond market due. The price has risen from .70 to .89. They are a sure thing.
“pina calada”? Do you mean “PIÑA COLADA”
Aug 17th, 2014 - 08:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Viz:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piña_colada
How this woman has the bare faced cheek to go cap in hand to a British multinational bank asking them to pay their debts is beyond all belief. I thought the times of dodgy lending had come to an end!
Aug 17th, 2014 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0They are scoundrels of the lowest order.
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Aug 17th, 2014 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nah!....he meant...
“ dickhead that is going to pick up on the fact that I got a letter wrong in one of the million words that are used in the English language even though it is Puerto Rican and I am obviously a Briton...”
....at least I think that is what he meant....
If everything is OK in the Argentine garden, why so much anger, why so much hatred. If default ain't going to be so bad no need to pay back what you borrowed. However if in reality default is going to ruin a lot of Argentinians especially the poor then just pay up. Doesn't matter if the Vultures make a fortune out of the original debt holders not really Argentinas business. Watching Argentina thrash about might be amusing but who in their right mind would want to invest in a Country where honour and the rule of law don't really matter.
Aug 17th, 2014 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now, will there be a loan deal from certain country for strategic reasons.
Aug 17th, 2014 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Like who for example?
Aug 17th, 2014 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now there trying to pass new laws to give the government even more power to set prices and regulate profit margins. If the vulture funds case will scare away investment in the government, those new laws will scare away investment in the private sector too. This will create even more monopolies than Argentina already has.
Aug 17th, 2014 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This government does not understand the concept of “unintended consequences”. If they created conditions friendly to private investment (instead of trying to force the private sector to invest), this would create competition, helping lower prices (via lower profit margins due to competition, not regulation) and improve consumer experiences. The problem is, this would take at least 10 years to play out and most Argentines I know are too impatient to wait that long and would declare it a failed policy after only 6-12 months.
They truly are following the path of Venezuela, I estimate they are about 3 or 4 years behind Venezuela on a similar economic path.
http://www.valuewalk.com/2014/08/paul-singer-argentina-assets/
Aug 17th, 2014 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK - Singer's coming after you...
I think for every argentine asset confiscated, one foreign embassy in Argentina should be sacked and the squatters of said Argentine territory evicted.
Aug 17th, 2014 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@29 Tobias
Aug 17th, 2014 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's a grown up way of facing things. Of course then you'll 'sack' the wrong embassy and the owners of said embassy may take it out on Argentina by bombing you back to the stone age.
All actions have consequences, that is why Argentina is in the mess is it right now. Grown ups face these consequences head on, whilst children rant, rave, cry, beg and when that doesn't work...threaten.
But threats only work if you are man enough to back them up. Make the wrong threat to the wrong country and they will destroy you. Since you're already almost there, destruction wise, I doubt it would take long.
And when Argentina has followed North Korea into isolation and obscurity, and you have no power, no computers, no television, no food and no hope, then Tobias, you'll finally be happy, won't you?
@29 trolley boy
Aug 17th, 2014 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hilarious! Your talents are wasted here.
:)
@3o
Aug 17th, 2014 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No country has the capability of destroying Argentina, logistically, realistically, or geo-politically. It's an empty threat.
Since I think VERY few argentine assets will be confiscated before the world has had enough of Griesa and Singer dictating the foreign policy of 218 nations towards Argentina, it is a moot point (imagine Singer trying court orders all over European nations, Latin America, Asia, etc... you think they will all just comply and let that damage their relations to Argentina, which as insignificant as you may claim we are, they are still foreign relations which are the purview of the local government and not Singer-Griesa?)
Attacking embassies? Really? You do know that is invading foreign soil, don't you? I thought CFK was insane but you, TTT, are more crazy. Thank goodness you have absolutely no power at all.
Aug 17th, 2014 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who said anything about attacking? I simply said sacking (another word for confiscating), and evicting. Embassies are not foreign soil in Argentina. Because we say so.
Aug 17th, 2014 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No one would be taken hostage, killed. They would simply be asked to pay for a hotel if they want to stay.
@34
Aug 17th, 2014 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Grow up!
I'm Argentine. I cannot do that.
Aug 17th, 2014 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have always had a problem concerning the description “BOLUDO” - not anymore! 4n conTroll - you really are a BOLUDO!
Aug 17th, 2014 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@35
Aug 17th, 2014 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What he means is he's La Campora...
How are you going to get anyone to leave an embassy without sending Argentine people in? As soon as you have placed one uninvited foot on an embassy property you have technically invaded. Even Fat Max's army hasn't the balls for that. They prefer burning tyres and blocking roads.
Aug 17th, 2014 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is so weird about TTT's ranting is that he has said he does not trust or support CFK's government. He doesn't really agree with any of the moves his government is making but he is getting off on the xenophobic nature of their mismanagement.
There are very few easier ways to alienate large numbers of other nations than to officially trespass on diplomatically protected soil. Argentina has probably gotten the hint from that issue with a US military jet a few years ago.
Aug 17th, 2014 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With regard to the bonds and the reliability of the Argentine government, they can choose to renege on debts and obligations, but they have to accept that people tend to remember such things, and they get factored in next time- higher interest expected being the main one. This entire mess with the bond-holders has done exactly that- people now accept that Argentine domestic politics will either force or accept actions that penalise people outside of Argentina if it results in short term benefits to domestic agendas, regardless of laws or contracts. Argentina has the right to do that, but everyone else has the right to take those actions into account in turn and to keep their money elsewhere.
Argentina needs to get foreign investment back to improve things, but after YPF and the bondholders they need to actually work to get it, and that requires some sacrifices now they aren't apparently willing to make.
All I can say is god help whoever comes afterwards- the hole that's being dug is going to take a long time to get out of, and it'll be the population that suffers. The currently leadership has thoroughly secured itself against any such downturn, and they'll be safely away when the debris starts to fall.
frenchy, will you and matias and cerviche and the rest of your merry band of campers please signify? You're not embarrassed of what you have espoused are you?
Aug 17th, 2014 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@32 Tobias
Aug 17th, 2014 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just about every country in the world has the capability to destroy Argentina, but why bother when you are all busy doing it for us?
However you really are naive if you truly believe that you aren't vulnerable to attack. I mean you are already terrified of the 3,000 people who live in the Falklands, God knows how much you'd poop your pants if someone who was actually powerful decided to put you out of your misery.
So, like I said attacking (sacking is a form of attack, tut, tut fancy not knowing that with your 'enormous' self-proclaimed intellect) embassies is like attacking that country. And some countries would take great offence regarding that, and could swat you like a fly.
Of course, they could just put sanctions in place, Argentina wouldn't be able to buy or sell anything, and you can finally live the life you always wanted in that socialist utopia that so closely resembles North Korea.
I doubt the other 39,999,999 Argentines would be quite so eager to join you in that 'paradise'.
So, Tobias, are you ever going to grow up? Are you ever going to realise that ALL actions have CONSEQUENCES?
Probably not. If anything over the last few years you appear to have regressed. Not able to get your medication? You certainly appear to be more unhinged and unstable, and of course, we are all still waiting for your master plan (which you told us would come into force 2 years ago last March) to be enacted.... or is it already being enacted...the total, utter and systematic destruction of Argentina.
Poor Tobias, desperately trying to defend the indefensible due to some mistaken belief that criticising the 'fatherland' is akin to treason. Psst, Tobias, that's only true in dictatorships. In democracies it's the duty of every citizen to criticise the country and it's government. It's the only way to ensure things improve.
What ever it was, it was watery and tasted vile, hick”
Aug 17th, 2014 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whooshed down with bread, hick,
and sick all over her servants hick..lol
@29 & @34
Aug 17th, 2014 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tobes, try the Oxford English Dictionary definition;
sacking/ˈsakɪŋ/
noun
1.an act of dismissing someone from employment.
2.the pillaging of a town or city.
3.coarse material for making sacks; sackcloth.
As both 1. & 3. obviously can't apply to an Embassy you can see why people thought you meant 2.
Pillaging? looting, robbing, raping, killing etc.
As ElaineB points out, it is internationally agreed that all Embassies are considered to be soveriegn to the country they represent. Which is why, for example, the British Police don't just walk in and arrest Julian Assange who is hiding in an Embassy in London. Equally when the SAS stormed the Libyan Embassy many years ago, (after a shot fired from inside the building killed a Police Officer), it could be considered an act of War. One which the UK Gov was fully aware of and prepared to follow up on.
When you said 'sacking' Embassies you were actually suggesting Argentina should start a war with ALL these countries...
Probably not a great long-term strategy....
HTH.
I agree with the points regarding sacking but Ilsen, call me daft if you want but I don't remember the Libyan embassy. I know the SAS stormed the Iranian embassy in 1980 and the USA sent bombing raids into Libya in around 1986? from bases in Britain.
Aug 17th, 2014 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@44 boufiewolf
Aug 17th, 2014 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you. I stand corrected. You are certainly not daft! It was the Iranian Embassy as you say.
However, I think my overall point holds water, even if my memory is getting leaky....
:)
Let's hope Tobias isn't serious in his suggestion.
45 boufiewolf
Aug 17th, 2014 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think that Ilsen is getting a little mixed up with all those pesky embassies.
The SAS stormed the Iranian embassy in 1980 after is was taken over by terrorists financed by ( wait for it ) Saddam Hussain. The terrorists signed their own death warrants by shooting the embassy press officer dead and throwing his body out into the street.
As for the Libyan Embassy? As I recall, this WAS when a shot fired from inside the building killed a Police Officer. Wasn't it PC Yvonne Fletcher? Is that the one he is talking about? I think it is. Will have to google it and make sure.
Anyway, I hope the above helps :-)
The
@ 44
Aug 17th, 2014 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, it was the Iranians but don't all ragheads look the same?
Spectacular assault though and very few casualties, if you don’t count the five dead ragheads and the one arrested trying to claim he was a hostage, sneaky bustard. And who GAF about them?
The SAS are THE supreme murdering bastards and anybody who wants to take them on had better think long and hard whether the ‘72’ virgins are worth it. Great guys love every one of them.
yep, totally mixed up those pesky embassies! Sorry guys!
Aug 17th, 2014 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WPC Yvonne Joyce Fletcher (15 June 1958 – 17 April 1984) was a British police officer fatally shot during a protest outside the Libyan embassy at St. James's Square, London, in 1984. Fletcher, who had been on duty and deployed to police the protest, died shortly afterwards at Westminster Hospital. Her death resulted in the Metropolitan Police Service laying siege to the embassy for the next eleven days, and the United Kingdom severing all diplomatic relations with Libya. Two years later it became a major factor in Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher's decision to allow US President Ronald Reagan to launch the US bombing of Libya in 1986 from American bases in the United Kingdom
No one has ever been convicted for the murder of Yvonne Fletcher. However, in 1999, the government of Muammar Gaddafi accepted responsibility for her death and agreed to pay compensation to her family.
The Iranian Embassy siege took place from 30 April to 5 May 1980, after a group of six armed men stormed the Iranian embassy in South Kensington, London. The gunmen took 26 people hostage—mostly embassy staff, but several visitors and a police officer, who had been guarding the embassy, were also held.
During the 17-minute raid, the SAS rescued all but one of the remaining hostages, and killed five of the six terrorists. The soldiers subsequently faced accusations that they unnecessarily killed two of the terrorists, but an inquest into the deaths eventually cleared the SAS of any wrongdoing. The remaining terrorist was prosecuted and served 27 years in British prisons.
Both involved a police officer. Hope that clears it up.
Apologies for the confusion.
I still think TTTs idea is both stupid and dangerous though!
All of you are only empowering this minimal imp known as tobi by engaging him. Perhaps you enjoy bantering with him. At one point he did portray himself with some assemblance of intellect, but I think it safe to say that he has truly sunk and left the surface of sanity.
Aug 18th, 2014 - 01:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0We all know what the future holds for Argentina under the current regime and likely the next. Ignore the insane.....tobi is by far the most ignorant, ill-experienced troll on this site by far. Allow him to engage himself here and vicarious travel the world, he will likely to to the same conclusion as we all have.......he speaks utter nonsense and is a complete and thorough bore.
Well I was a year late but it's getting really hot in the USA summer... Racial war in the streets!
Aug 18th, 2014 - 02:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0I told you it was coming yankeeboy.... shoudda gotten ready.
Thanks for the reminder guys I'd forgotten PC Fletcher - my family was posted to RAF Laarbruch in Germany that year ( I was only 12). BFBS tv didn't start broadcasting the then BBC 9 o clock news till the end of that year when the service was renamed SSVC.
Aug 18th, 2014 - 03:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0On topic though, the Argentine gov have only themselves to blame, bad debtors always get found out eventually.
Hahaha, shots being fired, business burning, police arresting journalists, tear gas... Am I watching live coverage from Somalia or USA on CNN Int. right now?
Aug 18th, 2014 - 03:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0@52
Aug 18th, 2014 - 05:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where did you live, Weeze, Goch, or on Camp?
I extended my tour there, loved the place, ended up staying there for 41/2 years.
It's now a small airport with a museum dedicated to the time the RAF was there.
Newspapers, television journalists, and internet bloggers are being stopped by USA police within USA territory and being told to put their hands up and show papers.
Aug 18th, 2014 - 05:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds like 2014 USA is like 1976 Argentina.
@54
Aug 18th, 2014 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Weeze till dad was posted to Bruggen then we moved to Wickrath. I loved being out there I haven't seen much of the world other than Holland and Belgium but I did enjoy being there.
@50 I see it a different way. TTT's irrational outbursts create a platform for some reasoned comments and debate. He does learn because when it is pointed out the foolishness of his comment he drops his stance immediately and takes refuge in whataboutery. Every. Time.
Aug 18th, 2014 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0A fly will always land where a fly always lands.....zebra's have stripes and leopards spots and xenophobes will always hate those unlike them......for a plethora of reasons........jealousy and fear in his case.
Aug 18th, 2014 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@57
Aug 18th, 2014 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You still DO NOT understand why I do what I do.
I mean at some point I must start making a comment to the effect of “you all got really low bandwidth up there”
@59 I understand it but do you?
Aug 18th, 2014 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@60
Aug 18th, 2014 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obnubilation won't work with me.
@61 Q.E.D.
Aug 18th, 2014 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When your side stops the aggression, I will stop the aggression.
Aug 18th, 2014 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's been your call for the last three years.
@63 I don't have a 'side'. I only speak for myself. You should try it. Try breaking out of that nationalist brainwashing and speak as an individual.
Aug 18th, 2014 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@64
Aug 18th, 2014 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You line up ideologically with the anti-argentine side: you despise the government, you dislike the country's culture, you excoriate it's culture, you deny it's achievements with excuses or interpolation of “greater achievements” of others to diminish our own, you find it's sights unimpressive, you judge us constantly and universally negatively.
Why you even attempt to deny when any Argentine here views you as the “other side” is risible.
@65 You are doing that thing where you lump everyone together under one heading, 'the enemy', because it is easier for you to deal with the crisis your country is in.
Aug 18th, 2014 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I dislike your government because it is causing damage to my friends in Argentina, And because anyone with any sense and experience would see how CFK exploits and manipulates the poor masses. Everything else you assert is rubbish.
Again, try to break from the nationalistic brainwashing. Criticising an aspect of Argentina is not treason. It is not a criticism of everything Argentine.
@66
Aug 18th, 2014 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You criticize all aspects of Argentina. You really like splitting hairs huh.
Let's go back to 2nd grade so you get my point faster:
Taking ten 1's (one at a time and with separate movements), from the number 10, is quantitatively THE SAME RESULT as taking one 10 from the number 10 in one fell swoop.
Got it? You criticize one aspect of Argentina in each post, but eventually you manage to criticize and disapprove of ALL of them.
That is at the end of the day as criticizing everything Argentine.
Parsing words and caviling will not help you.
@67 I guess you being brainwashed for so long you just cannot think as an individual.
Aug 18th, 2014 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do you deny you find fault in everything? And that every “story” of yours is to provide NEGATIVE coloring? Why, I don't get it really.
Aug 18th, 2014 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@69 That is simply not true. You have one very negative view of life and clutch onto any remark you think is against you and Argentina. Maybe you should take the victim lens off and try to see my posts in the light they are intended. Whilst I appreciate that you avidly read my anecdotes, they are not all negative about Argentina. You choose to see them that way.
Aug 18th, 2014 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You should also try to stop the 'them and us' mentality. I think some posters here are very negative about Argentina but that is their personal perspective. And those posters come from a variety of countries including Argentina.
At least someone is occupying him.
Aug 18th, 2014 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@71 LOL. Maybe he will see that his perception of negativity in every post is more of a reflection on him.
Aug 18th, 2014 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0God must have blessed you with patience. In my past men (a stretch) like him were put on point.
Aug 18th, 2014 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Capitanich denied that the new Law of Supply is chavista”
Aug 18th, 2014 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.cronista.com/economiapolitica/Capitanich-nego-que-la-Ley-de-Abastecimiento-sea-chavista-20140818-0076.html
The “law of fair prices”, entrepreneurs must sell at a loss or go to jail”
http://www.cronista.com/economiapolitica/Capitanich-nego-que-la-Ley-de-Abastecimiento-sea-chavista-20140818-0076.html
Only one person can claim the glory-
Aug 18th, 2014 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and only one person must carry the can-
CFK...
@74 Leiard
Aug 18th, 2014 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have quite a lot of experience of living and working in Venezuela. I have extended family there.
I can say with out any doubt that this law is indeed chavista.
It is also the reason I no longer have a business in Venezuela.
My money is back in London. Many of my family are trying to get out too. Some have already gone to Colombia.
I strongly advise those that can, do so at the earliest opportunity.
@29 Trolley, you obviously haven't got much of a grip on the English language, have you ?? “sack” , in the sense that you are trying to use it - incorrectly - means to 'plunder'.....and to plunder , you need to attack, dominate, and most likely, kill any survivors.... but don't let it worry you - you are at least coherent, that is, your ideas are as stupid as your English is shitty.
Aug 18th, 2014 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And yr #36 is pathetic...“I'm Argentine. I cannot do that ”... you can't grow up ? d'you think that you are Tinker Bell and that you live in Neverland ?? what a sorry poofta !
Well, highly unsurprising headline.
Aug 19th, 2014 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am Argentinian and I have ZERO confidence on this gov, how can you expect some serious investments to come down here when this country is ruled by a bunch of thieves, hypocrite, chavez-wannabes ?
In a world where everybody is trying to make money and to have as many trade as possible, our ministry of economy is a marxist, so figure out what the outcome may be ...
@78
Aug 19th, 2014 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Eventually the rest of the world will get what they deserve for ONLY caring about making money.
@79, We are now catching a glimpse of Trolley's philanthropic side... money is not needed to survive......what a load of crap !
Aug 19th, 2014 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@79
Aug 19th, 2014 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Eventually the corrupt Argentine government will get what they deserve for ONLY caring about making money.”
There, fixed it for ya. ;)
As I stated 2 weeks ago the govt is going after Citi bank in Argentina.
Aug 19th, 2014 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can anyone say bank run?
You did indeed...
Aug 19th, 2014 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@79 trolley boy
Aug 19th, 2014 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree. They will probably get loads of money! Ha ha!
You will be bartering beans for goat blood. I will be exchanging cash for property and services!
*77 Agent Jack Bauer: At least the guy speaks Spanish and English (maybe Italian. too) I don´t think his English is ¨shitty¨.
Aug 20th, 2014 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0You concentrate in getting out of The Russians prison. I want you around for
the next season.hear me? Agent Bauer!!
@77
Aug 20th, 2014 - 02:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nope, as an Argentine I am blessed with the right to always remain juvenile and immature. Since the world sees me as such whether I act responsibly or not, then I might as well take advantage of it.
“How to fix Argentina's default - fire Cleary Gottlieb”
Aug 20th, 2014 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A well written article.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/20/argentina-debt-default-lawyers-court-pay-clause
Leiard, thanks for the link.
Aug 20th, 2014 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's sad however that the troubled mentally challenged adolescent troll suffering from a multiple personality disorder is presently in conversation with himself and demonstrating numerous pathetic contradictions. He's a waste of bandwidth.
@85 Aussiesunshine
Aug 20th, 2014 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0” At least the guy speaks Spanish and English (maybe Italian. too) I don´t think his English is ¨shitty¨.
Is that supposed to mean I should give him a tap on the back ?? and so what if, besides his “shitty” English, he speaks Spanish....and maybe Italian too ? What makes you think he's the only tri-lingual guy on earth ? Or posting on this site ? You've sure got a small brain....
So you enjoy “24 hours” ? not all hope for you is lost....and don't worry, I intend to be around for quite some time.
@86, 4n conTroll, so you feel you are 'blessed', that you have the divine right to be a juvenile (delinquent) and immature ?....if you believe that, and are proud of it, it just means you are made of the same shit CFK is.
Aha!
Aug 21st, 2014 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Here's the delusional deeply troubled mentally challenged idiot in conversation with “Jack” and “controll”... In other words... with himself and demonstrating a truly pathetic multiple personality disorder.
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