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Cristina Fernandez proposes a new capital for Argentina and compares herself with San Martín
Argentine president Cristina Fernandez threw her weight behind moving the capital Buenos Aires to the northern province of Santiago del Estero, an idea hitherto only pioneered by Lower House Speaker Julian Domínguez. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesYou need railways and superhighways across the Andes to reach the Pacific with goods, shifting the capital though I agree should be done is not going to solve by itself the problem of centralism if substantial tax and administrative power is returned to the Provincial governments.
Aug 27th, 2014 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That being said I dont think nor know for certain how serious she is about this. Its most likely another smokescreen and focus the debate away from the economic woes of the country.
Looks like a vote buying exercise to me...
Aug 27th, 2014 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There should be an Anschluß with Uruguay, reform the Federated Provinces of the South (instead of the United Provinces, since now we are a federation), and the capital should be moved to Montevideo. I have always advocated this.
Aug 27th, 2014 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 03 Even if Uruguay people wanted that, Brazil will go to war to prevent that.
Aug 27th, 2014 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@4
Aug 27th, 2014 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It could be a union similar to the UK, only with Uruguay retaining basically its entire current independence but defense, which would be beneficial long term for them anyway, and a border control. The advantage of a capital in Montevideo is that both cities could benefit good synergy, like Washington DC and New York do: one being the political center, the other the economic center. Having both “nearby” but separate prevents much of the corruption from having both the seat of power and of the economy in the same town.
I'm guessing you mean MDV will be the economic center because it sure won't ever be BA.
Aug 27th, 2014 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW you can't manage or defend your own territory why would you want or need any more?
There are barely any paved roads in Feudal SDE so this is all just a nonsensical chatter, she probably OD'ed on Lithium again. I think that bump on the head was much more serious they anyone ever let on.
At least it appears that way.
14.65/1 run peso run
I wonder how much nafta will be next week?
I hope you both have horses or big dogs to get you where you need to go.
You couldn't give Argentina to an Uruguayan...
Aug 27th, 2014 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I suggest instead a brand new capital be built at Isla de los Estados which is far enough away to minimalize the effects of corrupt politicians. (Sort of like what Brazil did in the 60's.). Ushuaia would no longer me the southernmost city in Argentina....ok, ok, the second most for the Argentine readers...
Anyone know what on Earth is the LSD gibberish @6?
Aug 27th, 2014 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 08. What don't you understand? I am happy to spell it out for you.
Aug 27th, 2014 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Was it Run Peso Run?
Was it the fact you will probably have to use horses to get around soon?
Was it the fact that SDE has hardly any paved roads?
Which? Glad to help you out.
BTW how much is a Big Mac now? I'm guessing $100
Got to get out of town before the riots and bunker down where the food is. ;)
Aug 27th, 2014 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7
Aug 27th, 2014 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, weren't you the one crying and then going ballistic for an entire week when you claimed I “slighted” your country Chile?
What have YOU just done @7? In the first sentence you stated Argentina is worthless, in the 2nd sentence you intimated Argentines are the most corrupt people, and in the third you attempt to take a shot at geography.
So in three sentences you denigrate Argentina. You like to play the game but don't like when others play it.
Typical.
@9
I won't need a horse, I won't have a peso run, SDE has hundreds if not thousands of kilometers of paved roads (http://www.granhotelamerica.com.ar/mapas/sestero.gif); and you still are a f---ng moron.
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Aug 27th, 2014 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is a princeple of political science and that is that geography determines destiny.. Come to think about it BsAs will inevitably be the center of economic activity of the Parana River basin.
Uruguay's existance and function is to serve as a Buffer state between Brazil and Argentina. Already Brazil has no heads of navigation. If they lose the River Uruguay to Argentina they would be in an even greater geopolitical trap than they are today and Argentina can cut the Brazilian heartlands from the coast and the world.
@12
Aug 27th, 2014 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You make an intelligent argument. Not surprising, you are the only other Argentine here.
12. That's assuming Argentina has a functioning Gov't and Military. Which it doesn't,
Aug 27th, 2014 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The fool at 14 digs a new fool's low for himself. Then you wonder why the US is on the verge of economic, social, and secessionist collapse.
Aug 27th, 2014 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#11
Aug 27th, 2014 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I guess I dowe you an apology 4n conTroll and let me address your three points:
1. Argentina is worthless... let's just say it has a negative net value.
According to the Economist, your Peronist managed economy has for the past 20 years tolerated a illegal drain over 160 billion dollars and now the debt holders are closing in on revenge. Obviously your country is worth something I guess, but I doubt your find Mujica agreeing with that idea...
2. Argentina is NOT the most corrupt country in the world. In the 2012-13 Global Competitiveness Report, issued by the World Economic Forum. Out of 152 countries surveyed, Argentina was named the 145th least corrupt, meaning that only seven countries in the world were more corrupt. Isn't that great? You're in 8th place!
3. What's wrong about building an entirely new capital on Isla de los Estados, which considering your extraterritorial claims, would reflect more of a middle point between the Bolivian border and the South Pole, which all your maps in Aerolíneas Argentinas magazines show on the back page. (Chile and the UK recognize the island as yours and would have no problems with you relocating there.)
You know this is not entirely crazy? (I mean, it's entertaining, & it could just be a way to de-fund the BsAs middle-class voters) . But the Pacific is where it's at!
Aug 27th, 2014 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0this new capital is even further away from the British Falkland's,
Aug 27th, 2014 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0perhaps this will give her tongue something else to talk about...lol
Now that I've chosen Urban Planning as my major, I find the idea of moving a capital quite exciting. Especially considering the two options are to either subsume an existing urban space or start one from scratch.
Aug 27th, 2014 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are plenty of examples of planned capital cities. Some more successful than others. Also there are plenty of countries where the largest city and/or financial centre are not one and the same as the capital. For instance, my capital which turned 100 last year was a compromise in a federation that had two competing large cities vying to be the capital.
However moving the capital will not in itself lead to a decrease in corruption or a change in social values or political discourse. It may, but there's nothing in the actual move that would do that.
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Aug 27th, 2014 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Karakorum must have being a cool one but the biggest failed programed capital in history??
I think the question here in any case is if Argentina can shift its political center and emphasis away from the Atlantic towards the Pacific and for that rather than a new capital you need roads, highways and railways that cross the Andes and go straight to Chilean ports.
Brazil, Burma, Kazakhstan and others have been successful. Even Chile moved it's congress away from Santiago...
Aug 27th, 2014 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Plus all the air travel would be excellent for Aerolíneas Argentinas profotability.
Wasn't the Blue and Gov't Peso at about a 71% differential when they depreciated last time?
Aug 27th, 2014 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hmm.
I wonder what is next?
Run Peso Run
@16
Aug 27th, 2014 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So you are saying we are worthless.
So you are quoting some “report” in order to insult my country.
Well, then don't cry when people diss your country.
When the Peso reaches 18-20/1 Argentina will have a smaller economy than Chile.
Aug 27th, 2014 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not too far away now.
That is flabbergasting.
I said before its going to be quite the height of fashion for a Paraguayan to have an Argentinian maid.
Really? So that must mean we have less than 5% inflation, if our GDP shrinks from the exchange rate side but is not re-inflated from the internal price/wages side.
Aug 27th, 2014 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's good to know, at least inflation is not finally not a problem. Eventually the exchange rate will stabilize and growth without inflation will resume.
#23
Aug 27th, 2014 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you think your country's economy is stable and it's able to finance it's development alone?
Can you quote from any financial report anything nice about. Argentina right now?
Do you really believe that corruption is not a problem in your country.
Don't you think that your country needs to refocus to being again the most prosperous with the highest standard of living country in Latin America?
Nope the 50-60% inflation is driving down the peso and putting you in a deep recession.
Aug 27th, 2014 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am waiting for the 1st auto company to say bye bye
It won't be long now.
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, good night
So...
Aug 27th, 2014 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0South Americans, and Argentinians especially,
Is CFK the “New San Martin” ???
What do you think??
Will you still be saying that, a year from now.... ??
Shifting the capital will not magically reorientate Argentina to the Pacific for it can hardly be said to be orientated to the Atlantic at the moment.
Aug 27th, 2014 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina's current orientation, for better or worse, is not outward but inward. Inward to itself and inward towards Venezuela and Brazil.
Shifting the capital will no more make Argentina a Pacific country than Bolivia. It is not location but attitude.
First, google the Isla de los Estados. It is a virgin land filled with fjords, lakes and numerous natural ports, of which probably the north western side of the island would be ideal. It would create new construction jobs and would be a showcase for the world. Pakistan, Australia, Burma, Brazil Kazakhstan and others have been successful and if Argentina is really serious about its extraterritoriality this would be a great statement.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse 029. But the ports are still in the Atlantic. Its still an Atlantic based couuntry since the Spaniards shipped the Bolivian plate and gold down by the River. Does it make sense to you that a container transported by truck (the most expensive form of transport for any good) costs more to be moved from Mendoza to Rosario or Bs As ports than from the ports to Shanghai city or the port of Rotterdam by ship??
Aug 28th, 2014 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0The ports will still be on the Atlantic. BsAs will not be moving.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Canberra is inland and doesn't affect the trade orientation of Sydney, Melbourne or Perth. Brasilia's location doesn't change São Paulo's trade either.
First the island I speak of is in the Atlantic.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Secondly, the east west proposed links have gone nowhere and the corruption anticipated would result in enormous cost overruns.
The Japanese a few years ago proposed a rail tunnel close to the current auto/truck tunnel, but below the snow level and faster. The Argentine authorities made it impossible to proceed with planning. Same with a project in the north and in the south. Plus, no one is willing to finance completely.
@28 I'm thinking HAHAHAHAHA
Aug 28th, 2014 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0@26
Aug 28th, 2014 - 01:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm in a nice mood, and even you have no interest in the above questions and just like to verbally abuse argentines, allow me:
1. No.
2. I could care less
3. It is, but when corruption is not a problem in yours, come to lecture me about it
4. There is no refocusing available. It will never regain such economic prosperity
The problem is that you revel in Argentina's “problems”. Just like the others here, like pigs wallowing in the mud pit.
@27
If the GDP is going down due to currency devaluation, why would the car companies leave? If Argentina's GDP will be lower than most of Latin America as you predict, then wages must invariably follow. So that would make Argentina a very attractive place to build just about anything.
Or maybe your knowledge of how calculation GDP, wages, inflation, etc is utter s--ht.
#35 Troll
Aug 28th, 2014 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you care for your people, you'd be concerned, but then again, you don't like Argentine women....
Chile is the 18th least corrupt country in the world. Try to bribe one of our Carabineros (police) if you don't believe me. (Argentina ranks 145th)
The Amarok Volkswagen pickup Is solely assembled in Pacheco, Argentina and Hanover, Germany. Guess which assembly plant has substantially lower costs per vehicle?
You say: “Argentina a very attractive place to build just about anything.” Using your simplistic logic, you could also say that North Korea would be also attractive...
Argentina in a decade could return to the G-20 if the people would elect a decent government. There is no reason why not, except yourselves.
It has nothing to do with caring for anyone, Argentine culture today is anathema to what is expected by the current barons of world economics (all work, no play; all effort, no benefits). That's modern (crony) capitalism.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 02:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's on one side. On the other, Argentine society is lost, destroyed, from the productive point of view. It does not value education, and that is ultimately why it does not produce added value, and why it is corrupt.
All that said, I would not want to become a society like Chile. Haven't you noticed that Chileans have been reduced from an interesting culture in the past to nothing more than entities with statistical and rankings diarrhea? That's all I get from Chileans today, nothing but an incessant data stream of numbers and figures.
I will no longer reply to you as long as you engage in such disreputable acts like splicing my “quotes”.
Future capital of Argentina, centrally located in the middle of its territorial claims. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isla_de_los_Estados
Aug 28th, 2014 - 04:13 am - Link - Report abuse 04n conTroll,
I'm apologetic if I have offended your sensibilities and challenged your thoughts.
Honestly, it has nothing to do because of you not caring for anyone, especially Argentine women who can be very sexually challenging. Most of the Argentine culture today is materialistic which is due to an emphasis of focusing on union strikes, shutdowns to increase pay and to reduce working hours by expanding break times.
Argentine society itself is being threatened by traditional crony capitalism that really does not value socialist education, garbage street art nor the anarchist desexualization of the masses, to which I see you are a specific victim.
My own, militaristic and despotic aggressive Chilean society has focused to increase its manufacturing efficiently by 13% in the past decade wile Argentina dropping 6%, resulting in a total 28% superiority in Latin American ratings, which probably results in Chilean men being perceived by Latinas as masculine superiors. This ranking alone shows our statistical dominance in being admired by women, especially girls in nightclubs where the success rate is a full 25% higher. Chilean men also have a higher statistically success rate in bed with blondes, especially young naval officers, but that's another subject.
Respectfully, I will no longer try and splice your comments into my replies as it will probably result in you engaging in disreputable acts that would embarrass your reputation.
Frankly, she should be concentrating on sorting out their financial problems, but as always, show boating and talking rubbish
Aug 28th, 2014 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0If she has funds to move the capital she can pay debts
My thoughts exactly, Vulcanbomber.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 08:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Has she got money to waste?
lt would cost billions of dollars to found a new capital & move all the government to it.
@38 :)
Aug 28th, 2014 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0@3. You're pretty big on invasion and domination, aren't you?
Aug 28th, 2014 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5. How would you manage without corruption? It's the only thing you're “good” at.
@11. “In the first sentence you stated Argentina is worthless, in the 2nd sentence you intimated Argentines are the most corrupt people, and in the third you attempt to take a shot at geography”. And all accurate.
@17. The important thing to notice is that this entirely practical. It's about transportation. Can't use Tango 01, it might get seized. Can't use railways. Very unsafe. Only suitable for peasants and workers.
@23. Of course you're worthless! Corrupt and criminal. No honesty and no honour. And you proclaim yourselves to be “victims”. The excuse of the criminally insane. There is NOTHING in argieland that justifies its continuance or survival. Incidentally, no-one has “insulted” your country yet. Don't you like the truth?
@37. In other words, you know you've lost. You've just admitted that argieland is shit.
@39. Maybe we could help. WE could blow an ENORMOUS hole.
Option #1: Move the capital to Pt Stanley, after all they are doing pretty fine down there. Furthermore, let´s make Stanley our new Capital, and let´s make this country part of the FI. We´ll have a decent gov at last.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Option #2: Move the capital to Mars, and send Cristina and her cronies there with in a one-way trip. What? the rocket exploded? oh ... so sad ;)
#41 Elaine
Aug 28th, 2014 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Blessed are those who comprehend...
YB, I don't think you can use the Big Mac Index in Argentina on account of the government already fiddling the system. In Buenos Aires the Big Mac is often advertised as cheaper them a burger - to cheat the system - but not available if you want to buy it at that price.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have enjoyed reading the posts and marvelled at how the hell can TMBOA manage to create so much chatter over a non-event like moving the government?
Aug 28th, 2014 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0It has about as much chance as TDC ever making it into the real world and that is none.
I don’t know about comparing herself with San Martin, she is more like what you see on the carton of ‘Bob Martin’s’.
Have a nice day folks.
45. Yeah that was my point about asking for it.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Gov't is so lucky that they have a MASSIVE Strike today, it should tamp down the Peso since all the stores will be closed.
Whew, maybe they need strikes every day?
Tick Tock Tick Tock
@47 Ooops. Didn't mean to tread on your point - so to speak.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Here's to the break up to what is already a broken country led by a broke government with a broken economy for a broken people.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Changing capital is No quick fix.
Oh those of you with little faith...
Aug 28th, 2014 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Artist's proposed new capital of Argentina...
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_3UZ_N8Qdang/TG0vxirQVFI/AAAAAAAACn4/ddX2yjpHq_g/s1600/laba-ws.blogspot.com_CG_Art_0001.jpg
CFK's bold suggestion to move Argentina's capital is brilliant and will inspire a new generation of youth to embrace the Peronist dream of a new capital that will set the standard for embracing the twenty second millennium and beyond. Located in Las Islas de los Estados, which is located in the near geographical center of the Argentine empire, the people could refocus on territorial enforcement, especially in those rebellious breakaway districts that disrupt the overall harmony that covers the vast claims that span fro Bolivia to the South Pole.
50. You're much more fun on vacation.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#51
Aug 28th, 2014 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Vacation you say?
Well sort of, and ...thank you.
By the way, the new capital's. Shopping mall plans to incorporate in the new capital:
caphttp://www.atributosurbanos.es/images/fotos/fantasy-city2_large.jpg
ital:
Indoor obviously as the anticipated rain will constantly wash the skylights clean.
I don't understand. Why does she compare herself with San Martin? Why not be more realistic and compare herself to Hitler, Goebbels, Mussolini, Honecker, Stalin, Tojo and other pieces of pointless shit. Execute!
Aug 28th, 2014 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As usual, she never thinks things thru. She has diarrhea of the mouth.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I just wish she and her gang would step down already.
I think it´s time that the opposition call for her resignation.
Cisplatina is independent and will remain independent. If someday Cisplatina become a federal state because it is once again part of Brazil. As has always been since the ancient times of the Colony of Sacramento.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Welcome Uruguai!
Poor Brasileiro is as usual completely off his rocker.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do Uruguayos speak Castellano and not Portugues?
Because Uruguay has been part of Spanish Virreinato del Río de la Plata from the very start.
@ 56
Aug 28th, 2014 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spanish invaded in 1777 Sacramento We had no way to defend Sacramento because Portugal was too weakened by the recent earthquake that destroyed Lisbon.
We will never forget this betrayal. Spaniards are cowards!
Poor Brasileiro is as usual completely off his rocker, blabbering about 1777.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Spanish arrived in present-day Uruguay in 1516.
1777 - 1516 = 261 years. 1777 - 1624 = 153 years.
In 1603 the Spanish began to introduce cattle, which became a source of wealth in the region. The first permanent Spanish settlement was founded in 1624 at Soriano on the Río Negro.
@58
Aug 28th, 2014 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some years after the discovery of Brazil, an expedition led by Martim Afonso de Sousa arrived with his caravels to the estuary of the River Plate, with the mission of placing landmarks Portuguese possession on the left bank of the mouth of that river.
Cisplatina is Brazil since 1500. Like all Portuguese possessions in America. Sacramento is the only Portuguese city that does not belong to its rightful owners: BRAZIL.
Spaniards are traitors!
Where's all that South American brotherhood and solidarity that is usually followed by a pathetic YouTube clip?
Aug 28th, 2014 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0New user on the Brasileiro login tonight.
San Martin was a great soldier. In the end, (it is argued) it was self exile to France. He wanted betterment for the future of South America.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@60
Aug 28th, 2014 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes must be a new user, I can almost understand his jibberish today.
59. Lucky USA we planted a flag on the moon.Did mars get one too? Do both of those planets belong to the USA now? Well anyway were were there first so I guess so.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as the logic goes...
#61 asslips wants betterment as well.......only for herself.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0First she was Evita.....now San Martin......who the hell will she be next? With all these persona's......tobi?
64. She is like Isabelita it's what I thought when we was elected and it seems to be rolling out just like that.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Except CFK denuded the military.
Probably the smartest thing she's ever done.
Maybe it's better for Buenos Aires to have the politicians far away from commerce and production!
Aug 28th, 2014 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#66
Aug 28th, 2014 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly!
The most practical in some peoples opinion would be to line politicians up against the wall...and, but the second best solution is to ship them as far as possible away from Buenos Aires.
67. You could put them on a deserted island with 1 jug of water each and a sling shot.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0at least they could make some $ with the TV rights
may the odds be ever in your favor.
55
Aug 28th, 2014 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well Brazil lost the Cisplatine war against the United Provinces. So that was settled long ago.
@69
Aug 28th, 2014 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Remember: Brazil never lost a war!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Did_m-sxXi4&list=PLnkYkTv4HbMb4201reb0xfRJ2bTx3nAae
If Brazil would have won the war you would at least have a head of navigation in the Rio Parana or in the Uruguay River. Instead you have none of that.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#70
Aug 28th, 2014 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 070 years later and the old soldier still has spirit!
@72
Aug 28th, 2014 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for watch.
When I read the headlines, the first (absurd) thought that came to mind was that CFK was going to propose Port Stanley as the new capital for Argieland.....
Aug 28th, 2014 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The “Brasileiro” (or whoever in his dysfunctional group is writing these gems @55,57,59) is really overdoing it this time....keep it up Brazzo, hilarious !
@70, Brazil is losing the war alright, to corruption, to inflation, to backwardness......Come October, good riddance Dilma fat-ass !
The conversation was good .... but come the king of idiots.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“hasta la vista”
Something about dust.
Aug 28th, 2014 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@75..< the “conversation” was good > ?? I don't recall having had a conversation with you, just read a sequence of stupid rants.....and if you must, pls DO vote for your dear Dilma...I'll be happy to see you...and her, lose.
Aug 29th, 2014 - 01:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chile, Brazil, and the UK have lost wars to Argentina. I think that explains many things.
Aug 29th, 2014 - 03:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's funny how when countries lose wars, they call them “unimportant”, or they don't even teach them in school.
Argentines learn about all our wars, wins and loses.
This is yet further proof that the silly woman is mad . Some months ago she was saying she was the mother of all Argentines .
Aug 29th, 2014 - 07:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0There is only figure in Argentine history I would compare her to , and that would be Liniers .
Another corrupt , thieving coward who used to run for the hills at the first sign of trouble .
San Martín was our patria's father and Krissss is our patria's mother, jajaajaj.
Aug 30th, 2014 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0You dont understand Argentines.
Liniers a bus station.
@78 mamarracho número 2
Aug 30th, 2014 - 06:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Chile, Brazil, and the UK have lost wars to Argentina.” This statement is false - the UK has never lost a war to Argentina! If this is an example of your knowledge of historic events then clearly we have to profoundly doubt every statement you make.
@80 malen,
Aug 30th, 2014 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0We do not wish to understand Argentines.
ref Cristina “In order to underline her determination, CFK said she would not be deterred even if opinion polls showed 80% to be against the idea.”
Aug 30th, 2014 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds quite dictatorial to me. Delusions of granduer as the fog of insanity descends and the economic woes increase the pressure, at least.
Next she will be appointing a horse to the Senate.
This type of blind psychosis and the ideas of 'grands projets' being formed as a despot's empire crumbles is more common than you think. Hitler was still designing grand palaces and invasion plans of the US when the Allies were pressing on Berlin.
The wheels are coming off the bus...
@80 so malen thinks Liniers is a bus station. Wow! Apart from appalling ignorance of his own history, liners is the main cattle market where fat cows get auctioned off for slaughter.
Sep 01st, 2014 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0What price Cristina and her gang?
All we see here in Argentina from the CFK are Band-Aids for belly wounds. Look at Greece, two + years with the austerity required to get solvent and they are ending their recession.. the problem here is no one had or has the balls to do the right thing..
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