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UK agreement in principle for 'ad hoc' talks with Spain and Gibraltar

Tuesday, September 9th 2014 - 04:22 UTC
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The British Government has confirmed that after the “disappointment” of delays it has now reached “agreement in principle to the terms for talks and are discussing with both the Spanish Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Government of Gibraltar how and when talks can be organized.” Read full article

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  • ilsen

    Yep, they can talk about Spain behaving itself at the border and how far territorial waters extend.
    They could even talk about the number of aircraft carriers and Type45 destroyers the UK will have in service in the future.
    Spain can use this opportunity to thank the British for giving employment to thousands of their young people.

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GALlamosa

    That seems a fair, logical and satisfactory position. Greetings to our Gib friends. Others take note of the consistent and steadfast approach.

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    It's amazing how easy that England has in making enemies.

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    It's amazing how difficult Brasileiro finds sentence construction.

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    “It is regrettable that this Spanish government is no longer willing to engage in talks in the tri-lateral format...”

    what trilateral format is this tw@t talking about?
    there are only two sides: spain and the leftovers of britain or the remains of the uk, or whatever is their name without scotland.
    gibraltar is a colony, it has no entity to discuss nothing.
    and the only thing porky pigardo can discuss is if he is going to be converted in prosciutto or cooked ham.

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Great Britain will always stand by Gibraltar. This statement makes that absolutely clear.
    “The Government remains unreservedly resolute in its commitment never to enter into arrangements under which UK sovereignty over Gibraltar would pass to another State against the wishes of the people of Gibraltar, and not to enter into a process of sovereignty negotiations with which Gibraltar is not content.”

    Gibraltar is largely self-governed, with its own parliament and government, though the UK maintains responsibility for defence and foreign policy. Its economic success has made it one of the wealthiest areas of the European Union. No wonder Spain wants it. However they would just ruin the place. I wonder why the Spanish enclaves in Morocco, Ceuta and Melilla, have not been as succesful as Gib?

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussiesunshinee

    Cameron should concentrate on Great Britain and the Scottish referendum because I think the GREAT is going to fall out of Great Britain.....
    Nomura bank (Japan´s big bank) is advising its investors to pull out of great Britain fast before the big collapse...........

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    If, Scotland votes for independence, there would be advantages to the remainder of that union. Scotland is dependent on that union.

    They will still be dependent on it after their independence. Until they learn to speak Danish, Dutch, German, and French.

    If, Scotland votes to stay,

    then maybe aussiesunshine-e will shut his gob.

    I sure hope Scotland stays.

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    If Scotland leaves the union, the UK government will eventually have to reexamine and reconsider its entire constitutional setup.

    Spain might not like the result because I'm pretty sure that Gibraltar might be part of that and who knows, it might become part of the union like Isle of Mann. Or might become independent. Both options remove it from the UN's remit. And potentially the EU's.

    Spain and the people that support her position should be careful what they wish for.

    Not to mention that Catalonia independence is a certainty should Scotland vote to leave.

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussiesunshinee

    *8 You are the reason The Scots want independence URGENTLY........ :)
    .but shutting somebodies gob is more on the nazi
    side than the democratic side....you are in the wrong forum...Try the nazi forum on the web there are a few around..........

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    I suspect Catalonia is worth more to Spain than Scotland is to the UK.

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussiesunshinee

    Catalonia has no wish to be independent from Spain and furthermore the Spanish Constitution does not allow any referendum...read the constitution before comparing Catalonia to Scotland.....

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    @10 aussiesunshine-e

    I'm just hoping you “voluntarily” close your mouth, I'm not ordering it.

    Nazism! Bit of a stretch that. It might be better for everyone if you be quiet, just for a little while.

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @12
    Really? My God! Are you utterly with out knowledge of current affairs?
    Completely mad?
    Just plain stupid?
    What a ridiculous comment. Not worthy of a a reply.

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    mrs ilsen
    the spanish constitution does not allow any referendum.
    it is not so difficult to understand, even for you.
    it would be as if the province of san luis wants to become independent.
    there is no way, you naboletti

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussiesunshinee

    *13 Take a nap!! you seem to have had a bad day!!
    *14 There are many countries that do not allow referendums on breaking away from the Nation, apart from Spain there is The USA. Remember they had a civil war when the south tried to break away..The North said: No way Jose.. and kicked their arse all the way south but besides that even the German Chancellor has backed up Spain.
    www.news.yahoo.com/merkel-backs-spain-opposition-catalan-independence-vote-135202873

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    There is often a wide gap between what some people want and what a Constitution says.
    Otherwise Argentina would still be part of Spain...
    I never mentioned the Spanish Constitution. Read the thread before jumping in. Also, your silly insults just prove that you have nothing to say.

    Now get back in your box.

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussiesunshinee

    The catalans may wish many things only with the approval of the desire of ALL SPANIARDS not a handful of nationalist......that is why nations have a constitution
    to rule by the book....

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    So, the UK constitution allows Scotland to practice self-determination.

    And the Spanish constitution does not.

    Which constitution is more fair?

    If it is only a handful of nationalists, and certainly NOT the Catalans as a whole, then a referendum would demonstrate that for all to see.

    Any chance you could re-consider my request to you to be quiet for awhile? Would that be too much Nazism for you?

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

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    Sep 09th, 2014 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    11 ilsen (#)
    Sep 09th, 2014 - 01:54 pm
    I suspect Catalonia is worth more to Spain than Scotland is to the UK.
    -----------------------------------------
    I make this comment and people start banging on about Constitutions?

    How does that work? Unless of course some goady half-wit is trying to start a bun-fight where there wasn't one?
    Oh, I forgot, that's exactly who comes here to post. Two half-wits that have no knowledge of, or any real interest in Gib.
    That'd be it.

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    An independent Scotland will cause an independent Catalonia. No matter how much Madrid tries to prevent it.

    Mark my words. If I was Spanish I would be praying for Scotland's referendum to fail.

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @22
    I agree. The Spanish will be watching this very, very closely. However, this article is about Gibraltar. The UK Government has stated extremely clearly that talks about better relations are welcome, but discussions on sovereignty issues are not on the table and never will be. Unless Gibraltar wants them. Which it doesn't.

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    Will lol if they ever enter schengen.

    theme park.

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    This has nowt to do with foreigners so you argies warriors should concentrate on your own crumbling country,
    and leave the workings of Gibraltar to Gibraltarians .

    Sep 09th, 2014 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

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    Sep 09th, 2014 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Haha! Every one! For an example of a Classic Fail see @26
    'nuff said.

    Sep 10th, 2014 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    Spain needs the UK, we are currently employing most of their youth, be it in the UK or via tourism inside Spain.

    The UK just needs a cheap and sunny country to go on holiday, be it Spain or where ever. In essence, we don't need Spain and there are plenty of spanners we can put in the spokes of Spain's diplomatic and economic aspirations.

    Lastly, the UK will continue with Scotland quite successfully. Salmond has inflated their egos to unrealistic levels. Wait until they have to start printing their own worthless currency and their taxes jump through the roof. I think their subsidised free prescriptions will be the first thing to go. The euphoria will very quickly wear off in two years when the bills start dropping on the mat.

    Sep 10th, 2014 - 04:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Apparently paul aint allowed to play..lol

    Sep 10th, 2014 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    28
    the question is: who the hell needs english tourists?
    answer: NOBODY.
    they are the stingiest, dirtiest, drunkest, worst behaved and arguably the worst tourists worldwide in general.
    not to mention they are the ugliest.

    “The British scored poorly in the survey
    Britons have been labelled the world's worst holidaymakers in a survey of tourist boards around the globe.”

    “World's Worst Tourists? British Take the Crown Hands Down”

    “Britons voted Europe's worst behaved tourists”
    “Travel is supposed to broaden the mind. But for many Britons, going abroad still seems to be an opportunity to prove that no other tourists can be as oafish.”

    “Britain's image overseas will take a battering from a survey claiming our tourists are among the worst in the world and a new guidebook pouring scorn on the nation’s love of junk food and talentless celebrities.”

    “British people among world's ugliest, according to BeautifulPeople.com”

    Sep 10th, 2014 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Well at least we are famous at something,
    and the argies are famous at what..lol

    Sep 10th, 2014 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • inthegutter

    #30

    Your Anglophobia really is becoming a problem, do you seriously sit on the internet all day looking up ways in which the UK or its people are somehow sub-standard? That's very sad.

    And then you just go and spew a whole load of unattributed quotes about us being bad tourists or ugly or something as if any of that matters at all. Don't forget, the British continue to lead the world in science and culture. We are much much smarter than you, much richer, and much better at fighting.

    Honestly, you should go see a psychiatrist.

    Sep 10th, 2014 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    @31 The Tango. That merry ole dance that they're doing with the holdouts.

    Sep 10th, 2014 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    lol.

    Sep 10th, 2014 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussiesunshinee

    *22 It will fail..there willl be no independent Scotland or Catalonia ..maybe only in this shitty nationalist´s dreams.....ummmmmmm

    Sep 10th, 2014 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    32
    what anglophobia, you nabo?.
    the english newspapers say that.
    get informed, you ignorant.

    Sep 11th, 2014 - 03:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • inthegutter

    #36

    You spend your time trawling up “articles” which demonstrate that the UK (or England specifically) is somehow a failing culture and then go and post them here. That is clearly Anglophobia.

    Sep 11th, 2014 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Well we aint doing to bad after nearly 2.000 years,
    and then again Argentina has been around ??
    and achieved ??
    And broke yep a prime example...lol

    Sep 11th, 2014 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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