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Gibraltar governor supports deployment of large UK naval vessel to patrol territorial waters

Saturday, September 20th 2014 - 08:03 UTC
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Gibraltar Governor Sir James Dutton has publicly voiced strong support for the deployment of a larger British naval vessel to patrol Gibraltar’s territorial waters.
Sir James, a retired Royal Marine with a distinguished military record, said such a move would send “a really valuable message” in the face of persistent incursions by Spanish state vessels. Read full article

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  • ilsen

    When Britain fi-i-irst, at heaven's command,
    Aro-o-o-ose from out the a-a-a-zure main,
    Arose, arose, arose from out the a-azure main,
    This was the charter, the charter of the land,
    And guardian a-a-angels sang this strain:
    Rule Britannia!
    Britannia rule the waves
    Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.
    Rule Britannia!
    Britannia rule the waves.
    Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.
    The nations, no-o-o-o-ot so blest as thee,
    Must i-i-i-i-in their turn, to ty-y--yrants fall,
    Must in their turn, to ty-y-rants fall,
    While thou shalt flourish, shalt flourish great and free,
    The dread and e-e-e-e-nvy of them all.
    Rule Britannia!
    Britannia rule the waves.
    Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.
    Rule Britannia!
    Britannia rule the waves.
    Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.
    And now commonly rendered in alternate form:

    When Britain fi-i-irst, at heaven's command,
    Aro-o-o-o-ose from out the a-a-a-zure main,
    Arose, arose from out the azure main,
    This was the charter, the charter of the land,
    And guardian a-a-angels sang this strain:
    Rule Britannia!
    Britannia rule the waves
    Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.
    Rule Britannia!
    Britannia rule the waves.
    Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.
    Still more maje-e-estic shalt thou rise,
    More dre-e-e-e-eadful from each foreign stroke,
    More dreadful, dreadful from each foreign stroke,
    Loud blast above us, loud blast that tears the skies
    Serves but to ro-o-o-ot thy native oak.
    Rule Britannia!
    Britannia rule the waves.
    Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.
    Rule Britannia!
    Britannia rule the waves.
    Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voeo0Oiox-c

    Sep 20th, 2014 - 08:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Justthefacts

    Rule, Britannia, Britannia rule the waves,
    Britons, defending Gibralter are never, very, brave!

    Even if it were a battleship bristling with guns and missiles, it would be useless if they aren't ever willing to fire any of them. A rowing boat crewed by a single seaman equipped with a revolver and prepared to use it would achieve more.

    Sep 20th, 2014 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    Oh dear another fool that will almost certainly embarrass the UK's position of not escalating disputes with economic partners and allies....
    For goodness sake someone tell him to put a sock in it....
    As @2 says...without the authority to engage with force..it's pointless and would be made a mockery of....

    Sep 20th, 2014 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    I think the UK should send two frigates and have an exercise in Spanish territorial waters.

    Sep 20th, 2014 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    Sorry chaps last i checked someone else ruled the waves.
    Anyhoo ... Poor idea from sir Dutton. Spanish air force Jet flyovers / booms will result.
    Shoot one down if you dare.

    Sep 20th, 2014 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Lol.

    Spanish jet over Gibraltar airspace .

    “There it is, whoops you blinked, it's gone.”

    Send a glider next time, more people will see it!

    PMSL

    Sep 20th, 2014 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    The British should have more ships and the navy should make more use of the base,

    perhaps the Spanish think we will just sit their and do nothing whilst they just wander in and out of [ Spanish territory]
    until that is, the navy stops them..

    Sep 20th, 2014 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    6 - 4am sound barrier break overhead. And just when you'd already changed your undies from PYSL.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2355814/Gibraltar-fury-Spanish-military-jets-fly-airspace-delay-British-Airways-plane-waiting-London.html

    Would you prefer boat fury or jet fury.
    Oh ... theres another one, flights delayed.

    Sep 20th, 2014 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 8 No Vestige of a brain

    Spain uses the Eurofighter which Britain calls the Typhoon. Spain does not allow regular flights because they are broke and it costs a shit load to operate these things and their pilots are poorly trained as a result.

    Do you really think Spain would risk one of these pilots causing a major problem for them such as hitting an aircraft on takeoff from Gib’s airport by flying anywhere near them, never mind at supersonic speeds?

    You just don’t get it, do you? But of course it sounds good to you. Idiota.

    Sep 20th, 2014 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    He obviously does not believe is Spanish brothers, the aircraft did not enter the airspace, didn't he read the article?

    Spain denied that it happened, good enough for me. I mean why try and bully someone if your not going to brag about it!

    Bit ferkin different from mucking about on boats in the water, flying military fast jets through airspace used by commercial aircraft, one mistake, scores of people dead.

    Even the Spanish would have a problem explaining that one away.

    Sep 20th, 2014 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @5 Vestige

    “Sorry chaps last i checked someone else ruled the waves”

    Thankfully not Spain or Argentina.

    Sep 21st, 2014 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redp0ll

    Royal visit to Malta GC. Kate didnt go. George Cross to miss it perhaps?

    Sep 21st, 2014 - 01:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @12 redpoll - Good Morning!

    Daily Telegraph Sunday 21/09/14

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/11111078/Malta-would-not-survive-Prince-George-jokes-William.html

    Sep 21st, 2014 - 06:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Gibraltar needs to be ready,
    Spain will have its very own referendums turmoil's and upheavals in the next couple of years,

    hopefully peaceful, but always wise to be ready.,

    Sep 21st, 2014 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    11 - neither of which have an anthem about ruling the waves.

    The lyrics should be updated so you can sing the song without that little cringe in the middle.

    10,9 - simple repeats of incident in article. Done once can be done again repeatedly.

    Sep 21st, 2014 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @2. Perhaps you could compare the average tonnage of spanish naval vessels that illegally enter BGTW with the 24 tonnes of the Royal Navy vessels? Perhaps you'd like to trot out and show the Navy how to 'deal' with something 66 times its size. Perhaps you'd like to stand on the prow yelling “Once more unto the breach”.

    And yet the Royal Navy still goes out and does its best. Are you volunteering? When are you leaving for 'the front'?

    Make no mistake, if called on, I would head for Gibraltar ready to take up arms. As I would also head for the Falkland Islands if necessary. I'm 65 years old. I can't run and leap on razor wire. Or even dig a foxhole or trench. But I can lie down and shoot. And what does it matter if an argie or a spaniard kills me? I will have died for my country. And a proper British soldier will be saved and kill more of the enemy!

    @5 Shoot down all spanish fart overs. They aren't killing enough of their own. We should help.

    @10. Perhaps it's time to bomb spain. There's a little naval harbour at Rota. Bet the yanks will be impressed when our weaponry is so good it misses their ships.

    @15. “simple repeats of incident in article. Done once can be done again repeatedly”. Until the Rapier batteries arrive!

    Sep 21st, 2014 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Its touching that he cares so much about the lyrics to a song, that is older than his country!

    Sep 21st, 2014 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    ‘Battle of Britain’ jets comply with Spanish ban
    http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=34642
    The Spanish said==

    Two Royal Air Force jets will comply with the Spanish government's ‘deeply regrettable’ restrictions on military movements when they leave Gibraltar this weekend bound for a NATO exercise in Spain

    can someone explain , the paper does not elaborate.

    Sep 21st, 2014 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    The Spanish are notoriously weak. No actual threat really.

    Sep 21st, 2014 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 18 Briton

    Perhaps the Spanish “overlooked” the need for the Hawks to travel in Spanish airspace from Gib to the NATO exercise area.

    Given that they didn't know about their own planes flying close to Gib and encrouching on the civil aviation safety area it just confirms what we already know about the plonkers. Piss up and brewery just doesn't cover it.

    Sep 21st, 2014 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    ha ha , thanks Chris R

    Sep 21st, 2014 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    these little englanders are a joke.
    they have problems with 3/4 world.
    and then they ask themselves why the whole world hates them.

    well, because you little englanders are basically thieves.
    ask the argentinians, irish, spanish, italians, germans, french, arabs, indians, afghans, iraqi, etc.
    it seems you are not too much appreciated, no?.
    the best part is that you still don´t get it. lol

    Sep 22nd, 2014 - 01:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Oh dear, I'm so upset no one appreciates me, boo woo, boo woo, sob, sob, sob.

    “you still don't get it.”

    You have me confused with someone WGAF.

    Stop being a cry baby, it's so undignified.

    Sep 22nd, 2014 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RICO

    #22

    Most of the countries you list are either in close military alliance with the UK or a close economic alliance with the UK or both. The main exception is Argentina who don't produce anything of value, has no foreign currency to buy anything off us and has shit military forces whose equipment is falling apart to the extent that we feel we can defend the Falkland Islands with 2,000 men vs Argentinas armed forces of 77,000.

    So your point is?

    Sep 22nd, 2014 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    “the best part is that you still don´t get it. lol”

    Get what? The rantings and ravings and inferiority complex of someone in a broke country?

    Sep 22nd, 2014 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    22 please grow up.

    Sep 22nd, 2014 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussiesunshinee

    The Governor of Gibraltar has taking a beating in the Gibraltar Press something which this paper has not mentioned. The Gibraltan Panaroma Daily has been attacking him all week.Why has this not been mentioned on this paper??!! ummmmmm

    Sep 22nd, 2014 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Yes, but there is still a government of Gibraltar.

    With a British press to attack it.

    So things are as they should be.

    Sep 22nd, 2014 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vulcanbomber

    Did anyone notice HMS Ocean pull up in Gibraltar?

    Strange how the Governor made his annoucement, coz we all know he knew it was coming. Lets see how many incursions now

    http://www.demotix.com/news/5824530/hms-ocean-visits-gibraltar#media-5824407

    Sep 22nd, 2014 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    24
    you are not too bright, are you?
    the important thing is what the people of those countries think about england.
    again, ask the irish, germans, french, indians, etc.

    england as a market for argentinian agricultural products, does not exist.
    in the end it is just a tiny little island.

    Sep 23rd, 2014 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @15 Vestige

    The lyrics should be updated to include the Falkland Islanders never being slaves to Argentina(in a more concise manner).

    Are you surprised that Argentina hasn't got an anthem about ruling the waves when some of their ships in port prefer to slide under them than to stay afloat?

    @22
    “and then they ask why the whole world hates them”

    Why did Barrack Obama call the UK his closest ally after the Scottish referendum vote if the UK is hated?
    An example of Argentine 'logic' =arse about face.

    @27
    That's democracy, which is being denied to Catalonia by Spain.

    @30 Paulcedron
    “england as a market for argentinian agricultural products does not exist”

    We don't allow foot and mouth infected beef in here and the rest of your products are contaminated with pesticides-you are right-there is no market for absolute crap.

    The Elderberry Wine I produce for homebrew makes your Malbec taste like watered down p1ss.

    Sep 23rd, 2014 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    In the end it is just a tiny little island.
    Yep, a tiny weenie wincey minute insignificant little island

    And yet it managed to put the big giant humongous bullying ARGENTINA in its place,
    Did it not..

    .

    Sep 23rd, 2014 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    A small island indeed. Geographically. Economically and Politically? A massive global influence.
    If Britain was the equivalent to Latvia, do you think paul-carrion would post here?
    Over to you paulie.
    Please explain.

    Sep 23rd, 2014 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 33 ilsen

    Polly doesn't know what a 'Latvia' is.

    He thinks it's an unusual 'lav'. :o)

    Sep 23rd, 2014 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    pete dog
    “The Elderberry Wine I produce for homebrew makes your Malbec taste like watered down p1ss.”

    good image of you and other hillbillies, barefoot, stomping elderberries in the middle of the islets.
    are you sure you have elderberries in the islets?
    i guess not.

    ms ilsen & christine
    you are right.
    england is not a tiny little island.
    it is a fraction of a tiny little island.
    and economically they do not exist.
    not to mention politically, lol, they are ruled by a 120 year old woman since 100 years ago.

    of course, compared with the islets, it is like the paradise for you.

    Sep 23rd, 2014 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    US POLITICIANS HIGHLIGHT GIBRALTAR’S RIGHT TO SELF-DETERMINATION
    Eight US congressmen have tabled a resolution calling for the House of Representatives to formally recognise Gibraltar’s right to self-determination.

    The bi-partisan move highlights the wishes of the Gibraltarians and underscores the deep historical links between the Rock and the US, highlighting its strategic position for US military interests.

    Resolution 738 acknowledges the fact that Gibraltar’s citizens have “freely and democratically” expressed their desire to remain British in two referenda.
    http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=34654
    An anonymous source in Washington told the newspaper that there had been ample lobbying over the Rock,
    He said the US position on Gibraltar had so far been “informally supportive”.

    “But we need only remember the situation President Reagan found himself in during the Falklands conflict, where he was made to choose between a staunch anti-communist neighbour and long-standing trans-Atlantic partner to see that these issues are never clear cut,” the source added.

    “The Spanish, and their Latin allies, are aware of this and have been lobbying hard, as have the Gibraltarians.”

    If they get the support then the Falklands wont be far behind,
    This will upset CFK no end..
    .

    Sep 24th, 2014 - 12:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    read this article written by an educated and intelligent british, not like you all, you bunch of ignorant hillbillies.

    Time Britain gave back Gibraltar... and the Falklands
    http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/opinion/columnists/time-britain-gave-back-gibraltar-and-the-falklands-133467n.21868219

    Sep 24th, 2014 - 01:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    @37 paulcedron

    In this country everyone is entitled to voice their “own” opinion, that does not mean that their opinion is actually accepted by the majority.

    By the way he actually voted no in the Scottish referendum.

    Sep 24th, 2014 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Most people who insult other people are insecure. They think that it will make them feel better if they put someone else down, or they insult the other person to take attention off of themselves. Sometimes people who are angry insult other people because they are not mature enough to think of a different way to handle their anger except to try to start a fight or to try to make the other person feel bad.

    Sep 24th, 2014 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Why oh why does paul-carrion feel need to constantly spout utter garbage and drivel on here?
    What a complete timewaster. And an oxygen thief also.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussiesunshinee

    *40 because THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH gives him that liberty.It something
    your British Nationalism will never understand.......pity

    Sep 29th, 2014 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    *41
    You obviously didn't understand the question. 'Feel the need'.
    Just because you are lucky to have freedom of speech doesn't require one to just talk shit.
    I asked why he has a need to talk shit. Not how he is enabled to do so.
    But you are just a sheep, just following where others lead.
    I pity you.

    Sep 29th, 2014 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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