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A third of Argentina's population 'vulnerable' to falling back into poverty, says World Bank
Approximately 33% of Argentina's population (or those living with between 4 and 10 dollars per day) are vulnerable to falling into poverty if faced with adverse economic conditions, the World Bank said in its 2015-2018 Country Partnership Strategy (CPS) report for Argentina. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThis has been obvious for quite a time - nothing new!
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 05:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0We're talking 'abject poverty' here - 'indigencia', not just poverty. 35% of Argentines are already poor.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 07:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a disappointment for Kirchner's “won decade”. They were targeting 50 to 60%. Maybe with Fat Max they can achieve the 60% poverty mark.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.janes.com/article/43094/argentine-president-s-son-clarifies-electoral-plans-signalling-kirchnerism-s-long-term-ambitions?
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Sep 22nd, 2014 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, that is right.
$4 - $10 / day is already poverty.
And the vultures insist on making a 1600% profit from us.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Parts of Argentina already are comparable to Somalia.
This article fails to mention that many don't want to work and will stand around doing nothing waiting for a hand out, which is part of the problem.
“prolonged slowdown is more likely than a deep economic rift”
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, of course dear, back to Washington, D.C. and reality, you won't get any from TMBOA.
It's the 'Won Decade' after all. Ha, ha, ha, ad infinitum.
Klingon you have an issue with credit than WHY did you borrow in the first place?
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I have said this next collapse will make 2001 look like the good ol' days.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK will completely destroy what remains of the economy by the end of her term.
Argentina's historical crisis in the last 50 years where triggered by massive public deficits. Rodrigazo 1975- End of la Tablita (1982)- Hiperinflation 1988-1990- 2001 crisis...
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When the next government is oblidged to cut public expenditure and cut state employees poverty will go way up to the 50%.
Austrialians making fun of Argentinians esp Austral Elvis:
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We greatly admire their willingness to experiment with policies others have already proved don’t work. Argentines are always willing to have another go; maybe they’re just back-testing
http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au/argentina-will-get-worse-gets-better/2014/09/22/
Index provider FTSE has cut Argentina from its frontier equity index, citing the country's stringent capital controls
FTSE said Argentina would be demoted to “unclassified market status”.
Good news day for the Rgidiots
CFK states publicly that there is no problem.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0end of.
10. Argentina teaching humanity what NOT to do since 1945
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@4
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Prove it.
@ 5
Lie.
@7
If you take a dim view towards terrorist attacks against your country, why did YOU attack them in the first place? (40 years before 2001, when the United States commenced its endless intrusion in their affairs). Your incessant meddling is what militates against your own security today. But you are too mulish to admit it.
@10
The funny thing is you believe anyone in Argentina cares, or has even heard of “Daily reckoning Australia” or “FTSE”.
No one has!
13. You're right, Argentinians are too stupid and lazy to care about well, practically anything.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's why you've been getting poorer and dumber over the last 75yrs.
You're the perfect example of a propogandized education.
@14
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Incorrect. It's not stupid or lazy that is the cause, it is that Daily Reckoning Ozzer and FTSE are complete non-entities of no importance whatsoever.
“Incorrect. It's not stupid or lazy that is the cause, it is that Daily Reckoning Ozzer and FTSE are complete non-entities of no importance whatsoever.”
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Solipsism at its best. ;)
Remember me telling you pretty soon your Hospitals were going to have to shut down because they are un-hygienic?
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hear they're now out of gauze and cotton in BA.
Rut Ro
Actually its really sad that the avg Rg doesn't know about the FTSE, I guess its because they're too poor to invest.
That would be my guess
In the USA we learn about it in grade school.
@16
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If that's what you believe, why don't you go to the streets and ask. Do a percontation of 1000 Argentines to explain what those are. Or just simply interrogate them “ever heard of these organizations”?
I'll await your results.
Me on the dangerous streets on BA? No thanks.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know what's scarier motochorros stealing everything from tourists or your hospitals not having syringes, gauze, gloves or heat.
Why do you respond to queries not directed at you? I ask the intelligent questions to those I judge capable of redacting a cogent response.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Am I still being ignored? LOL. TTT you cannot control what happens on this board. If you don't want people to comment on your posts, don't post.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And you cannot control to whom I decide to vouchsafe my precious time in discussion. But the answer to your question is no, the 48 hours have now formally elapsed, so can now exult in “elation”, Elaine.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I don't know what's scarier motochorros stealing everything from tourists...”
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...whilst on the government payroll. What a coinkydinks.
http://seprin.info/2014/09/21/el-vatayon-militante-detras-del-motochorro/
@22 Ah, good.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@19 It is indeed grim there and will only get worse. I can't believe Fat Max is prepared to run for election. Imagine him waddling around in front of hungry people.
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Sep 22nd, 2014 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is a cool single graph and somes up all of Argentine economic history in the last half century.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByA-HYaIYAAGkg8.jpg
Each time less % of GDP as total deficit is allowed before the country explodes in pieces.
#13 tobi just how many dresses do you have exactly.....an infinite amount I would say. You can keep changing your skirts but the fact remains you will always be tobi the terrible trannyboi.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Make sure you shave close.....if you are old enough to shave that is.
@21 How else is the Pagotroll going to earn his measly pesos if he does not post here?
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gee Elaine aren't you just lucky....your 48 hours are up. For a while there I bet you thought you were safe.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see it as community service. An outreach program for the isolated, frustrated and terrified narcissist of Mendoza. TTT loves the attention.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Leaving jokes aside, underneath all that bluster is a very frightened young person. And he is bright enough to realise how dire his situation is. All that challenging and riposting is really a search for some hope.
5 Klingon
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“And the vultures insist on making a 1600% profit from us.”
Sorry Klingon, but that is misleading and inflammatory.
The “1600% profit” is really only 100% of the money owed to less than 7% of the $100b + that was loaned to Argentina.
Your people wanting handouts, got it from those same loans, years ago, and the rest that can't be accounted for went into the pockets of wealthy Argentine political cronies.
You got our money, now you are balking at paying back only a fraction of the amount.
You personally know better than to try this argument.
You are being dishonest with us, and yourself as well.
maybe if they did not waste so much money things might be better.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Aerolíneas Argentinas lost $ 18,100 million in six years - Equivalent to $ 2 million per day”
http://www.clarin.com/politica/Aerolineas-Argentinas-perdio-millones-anos_0_1216078417.html
@31
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Right, then Argentina would have no airline system to connect it. Sounds very smart.
Dear UN:
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you think that there might be a slight possibility in a connection between the poverty rates of the countries in this region and there political ideologies?
Your Gringo Amigos wish to know!
@33
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No. Argentina was fiercely capitalistic from 1989 to 2001, and poverty and unemployment rose.
Capitalism failed, just like all the others have failed.
@31 That is used to funnel money into La Campora. It is run by Fat Max's mates.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 034 nostrils
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“
Capitalism failed, just like all the others have failed.”
Well, if all ideologies or economic systems failed there, it must be something else, common to the locality - hmm, populist undermining, or corruption, a compromised judiciary, an unevolved Republicanism... ???
Certainly, the imperfect Capitalist system seems to work most successfully, in the liberal, developed, egalitarian, democratically evolved, first world societies like the UK, US, Canada, Australia, NZ etc. ....
I think it's just you.
As in, it's your own fault.
So tobi the terrible tranny boi (or girl) says Argentina gave capitalism 22 years to work and it did not and claimed it failed. Is that Argentina's excuse for democracy also.....isfailed and that is why Argentina has idiots like kirchner running the country and want Max, no political experience to run a country be president?
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tobi did you remember to shave when you wear your skirt panties and bra?
Hows your estrogen shoots going? Are they on hold as you went through your seroquel dosing this weekend.....or is it valproic?
@32 Nosy Troll a.k.a. 4nTrolley
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Right, then Argentina would have no airline system to connect it. Sounds very smart.”.......
Wrong. They can go on losing millions, as long as the taxpayer subsidizes them....but then again, when all taxpayers have lost their jobs, Aerolíneas will sink....or stop flying...whatever...s.o.s. ...
@34 4nTrolley
“Capitalism failed, just like all the others have failed.”...
So I suppose you are now going to suggest we all go back to the middle ages, and adopt “mercantilism”...as you have already once, stupidly suggested.
@38
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can keep whatever system you wish. However, you want to FORCE Argentina to adopt your system, seethe difference?
All I have said is that I think your economic system is sh!t. I have never demanded that YOU change your system; however, why isn't the middle class expanding in Europe and North America? I have asked this no less then 12 times and never read a reply or even an attempt to respond.
@37
Notice how you ever derogate and lambast but never provide an actual solution to anything? Typical.
32.. What do you mean why cant LAN Chile and Gol do BsAs-Cordoba, BsAs- Bariloche?? Mendoza- BsAs, is not important becaue Medonza is too poor and unimportant. But overall hardly no one uses Aerolineas Argentinas to fly within the country. It needs to go its a Barril sin fondo
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@39 12 times?
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An internet troll is someone who comes into a discussion and posts comments designed to upset or disrupt the conversation. Often, it seems like there is no real purpose behind their comments except to upset everyone else involved. Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.
TTT, I know your country and I like it. But I would not want to live permanently in such an unstable, corrupt and poverty stricken society where there is no real hope of controlling one's own life. Poverty is a cage from which there is no escape for you. You can try. You might even start to improve your life a little if you actually worked. You might even save a little. But then your government would cause another financial crisis and steal your savings. Everything you worked for would be taken because you have no control. You can't even leave the country for a better life.
Then there is my life, and the lives of many posters here. It isn't all easy but we have the possibility and hope that with the right drive and hard work we can achieve whatever we wish. That is what a developed society and economy can give you. Freedom of choice.
No system is without problems but I know where I choose to have my home.
@40
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a pathetic cheap shot with no basis in fact. Let me disabuse you of your doltish ignorance.
August 2014 numbers:
Durante agosto, 2.364.900 pasajeros utilizaron los servicios de las terminales administradas por Aeropuertos Argentina 2000, lo que implica un aumento promedio del 11 por ciento, respecto de los 2.130.877 contabilizados en el mismo plazo del año anterior.
Buenos Aires Jorge Newberry - 917.661
Buenos Aires Ezeiza Int'l - 715.840
Córdoba Pajas Blancas - 135.837
Mendoza El Plumerillo - 103.138
San Carlos de Bariloche - 81.564
Cataratas del Iguazú - 60.923
Aeropuerto Salta - 48.116
Tucumán Benjamin Matienzo - 43.864
http://www.aa2000.com.ar/news.aspx?idnoticia=734
Now that we have established reality, it becomes manifest how Cordoba, a city of 1.6 million vs Mendoza with 1 million, barely edges out Mendoza globally at the airport gates. So if Mendoza is poor and unimportant, what's left for you? Given your flight routes you should be registering 200.000 passengers.
Let this be admonitory experience for you, before you utter benighted statements which later place you in a position of ridicule.
@39
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina was fiercely capitalistic from 1989 to 2001”
Hardly. Your country had a defective combination of heavy regulations and underfunded public sector. Hence the spectacular crash in 2001.
Pseudo-capitalism, perhaps. Undermined by the heavy hands of arrogance, incompetence, and greed at its worst...
Underfunded public sector and Capitalism is a non-sequitur.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At the end of the day, capitalists are just like socialists. They blame everything and everyone but themselves when the system collapses (see the 2008-2009 United States economic crisis and the 2010-2012 Europe economic crisis).
@ 44
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And when people in BA are facing the very real possibility of having to trap sewer rats for barbeque meat, do we just call that a non-sequitur as well?
The more people pretend that there is nothing wrong with their economy when it is failing at every turn, the harder the crash will be in the end...
Trapping sewer rats? Buenos Aires isn't New York where there is no hygiene.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not going to respond to rampant hyperbole. Just because Argentina is in decline doesn't mean your outlandish scenario is imminent. Have someone shake you from your woolgathering session.
39 NOSTRILS
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Notice how you ever derogate and lambast but never provide an actual solution to anything? Typical.”
hmmm, where do I start?
I know...
STOP STEALING FROM YOUR PEOPLE.
Try that one for a bit. Let me know how you get on.
“Mercantilism” - good one!
:-)
But we are only 4 to 5hs drive to BsAs and we have more internal airfields...
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By plane to aeroparque is just one hour.
So yeah Mendoza is to insignificant
;)
TTT, how do you explain how poor the average Argentine is compared to the average Chilean? I would ask 12 times but I know you will answer immediately.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@46
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pigeons then...From what I can see there is a lot of trash blowing about...
Yankeeboy.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Loved that article. Made my morning.
@49
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is nothing to explain, as there is no difference between the average Argentine and the average Chilean, and the statistics are univocal on it, no matter how much you protest that reality and you launch a fusillade of anecdotes of dinners with Grand Dukes and Vice Counts asserting the opposite.
@48
Internal airfields? For what? To get your drug supply from Paraguay, sure I'll buy that.
Internal airfields, hahaha, boy you are hopeless in the face of incontrovertible facts.
@50
Hyperbole is hyperbole no matter how you embellish the canard.
Ho hum.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Venezuela 2.0
As I have said before. ..
@53
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So you are eating rats then? Interesting admission.
On the Canadian news radio today - two hours ago:
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Clorox Inc., based in California, has announced it will cease operations in Venezuela, and pull out, completely, “ this may be the result of an impending take-overbid”, whatever that means.
The company makes a number of high-profile, familiar home products, Clorox Bleach, and Listerine, as examples.
Company spokesperson cited “triple-digit inflation, and the government imposed price controls, that make doing business unprofitable and unviable, in Venezuela”.
“Shares of Clorox rose 7% on the NYSE today, a one-day, record”, upon the news being made public.
Argentina next???
Never heard of them.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@54
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, not me personally as I am in London. Nor does my family in Venezuela because I support them. However, for millions of Venezuelans this is not possible. Some have started eating cats and dogs. I think the rats maybe next.
@55
I wonder if this is another government expropriation, or if Clorox has simply bailed out like the auto mfgs did?
I'll let you know what I hear.
Yup. Just watch Venezuela to see the future of Argentina.
Nostril, I suggest you start stockpiling non perishable foodstuffs, medicines, personal hygiene products and make-up.
VENEZUELA 2.0 is coming to a street near you soon.
They probably didn't feel that ARGENTINA was viable long term, either.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Toby hasn't heard of a lot of very well known companies and institutions.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not surprising.
They said that if Soy fell below $350 their trade balance would trun into a deficit
Its $344 today
:)
Looks like people are buying any kind of hard asset they can find. Even the completely crappy Rgs companies are getting run up to ridiculous levels just so people can get their $ into U$ and out of the country.
My oh my
:)
“Very well known companies”
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0hahahahaha!
I just researched it and they make cleaning products. You know how many cleaning brands there are in Argentina? I can't even count them all.
I guess given your lack of hygiene in the USA, Clorox must be important and influential, since there is not enough of a market for two competitors. That would explain the massive dog-size rats in New York.
In Mendoza we kerosene our sidewalks each morning. You could perform surgery in them or eat a meal without plates on them.
@57
You forget Argentina produces 15 time the food Venezuela does. Next question.
57
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even if Clorox was to be expropriated, with an unfavourable business climate with a shrinking market, and no way to get US $$ profits out of the country, leaving was a good move.
Even if they had to abandon facilities and company assets in Venezuela, it would mean they were no longer operating at a loss - no wonder shares jumped 7%
@60
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“In Mendoza we kerosene our sidewalks each morning.”
Umm, are you sure it's not jet fuel that the pilots have to dump before trying to land on that cracked-up runway...?
Not expropriated. They just can't make money.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They say it is permanent because it is trying to sell and not even mothballing.
http://blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2014/09/22/venezuela-clorox-calls-it-a-day/
#52
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“...there is no difference between the average Argentine and the average Chilean...”
How ridiculous!
Well, you certainly have better polo players, better officer's clubs, a far better national dance, better asados (apologies to my country men), better dulce de leche and ice cream.
... On the other hand, Chileans are superior in every other way...
But you know the biggest difference of all? We're far more honest and trustworthy...
...certainly we're more modest as well.
Thx Anglotino
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@64
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“
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Thank you for providing me with the cachinnation of the year. That was supernal comedic skills. My doff my hat to you sir.
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@ 64 Chicureo
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“...certainly we're more modest as well.”
Tongue in cheek then, eh? :o)
Poor Toby, you do realize every large mfg of cleaning products in Argentina is owned by a foreign company right?
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.clorox.com.ar/nuestras-marcas.php
Those look familiar?
Silly creature thinking a backward province in a has been country is somehow relevant.
Psst its not even relevant to your own country.
@68
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You people are truly despairing with the unending baiting and trolling today. Haven't you all by now figured out that I am the one to run the show?
Almost all of those brands were not part of this so-called Clorox, which means they merely came in and purchased those brands as some point in the recent past. They had absolutely nothing to do with their creation, since some of those exist since the time of my grandmother, who would make use of metonymy with some of them.
What a spectacular failure in argumentation by this consummate fool called yankeeoboy.
They still own them and just like in Venezuela once Hyperinflation adn 3-4 digit inlfaiton hits they'll exit too.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Along with every other Int'l mfg.
:)
Chicureo, YB, Chris, Poppy
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chiléans are modest, but Argentinians have far more to be modest about... *wink*
Did you see what I did there... ???
“Haven't you all by now figured out that I am the one to run the show?”
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Talk about aiming low in life.
52.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ohhh no he is to strong for me, I surrender!!
Here's a sad little fact, 1/2 of the working population in Argentina makes $5000 or less a month. Today around U$335.
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A new iphone is retailing ( if you can get one) $28,000
So if you don't eat, don't pay rent and save every penny you can buy a cell phone in 6 mos.
Toby, remember me telling you in a decade the avg Rg won't be able to communicate with the civilized world..
it may be happening even sooner.
@39 4nTroll, nosy Nostril, whatever...
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“However, you want to FORCE Argentina to adopt your system, see the difference?
I am not trying to FORCE anything upon Argentina....and I never DEMANDED you do anything, either..... I'm aware that Capitalism is not perfect, but it's a damned sight better than the other options available ..........Communism : total failure ; Socialism : slowly and surely ruining the countries that have adopted it . Margaret Thatcher sized up Socialism pretty well - she said, “Socialism will last for as long as the ‘other’ people’s money does”....she also said , ”when half the population realizes it doesn’t have to work because the other half will support it, is when the other half realizes it’s not worthwhile working, just to support the first half”…that is the beginning of the end of any nation ; Bolivarianism : You have no clue, but no worry, soon it'll be coming to Argentina....in all the best households..
And, as far as your option for a return to ”mercantilism” goes, you might know it is no more than the primitive form of Capitalism...
@56 4nTrolley, so you've never heard of Listerine ? no surprise really, as your hygiene probably isn't your strong point ...do you even use toothpaste ? toilet soap ? deodorant ? ...... you know, those horrible things made by nasty multinationals ??
@74
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why is it sad?
You are really obsessed with iPhones.
Psst, I don't give a sh!t about them.
Ok.......
Sep 22nd, 2014 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0....you win......
Certainly Argentines are far more modest than we poor Chileans.
They never brag about anything.... Really it's true.
By the way, you know how to make a fortune in Argentina (pay attention and you can buy the new iPhone 6 in Santiago)
Answer: you buy an Argentine for what he's worth and sell him for what he thinks he's worth.
By the way, trani-Troll, you still have by far better dulce de leche.
Finally, let me correct a statement that was not quite correct that I made earlier...
the biggest difference of all a that Chileans light years more honest and trustworthy than Argentinians...
You realize how warped your mind is? Getting ornery and tormented out of nothing.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Elaine essayed to insult me by asking “how much poor the average Argentine is compared to the average Chilean”. I merely replied the obvious: statistically the standard of living of the average Chilean and Argentine is quite similar.
Her vain attempt at deprecation of Argentines aside, it was solely referencing to “money” (which of course is the shallow touchstone she and the rest of you here care about, as I have averred many times before), and not any other criteria.
In other words, inhale.
77 Chicureo
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 12:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry Chicureo, I repeated a joke, back there @71.
Chileans are modest though they have lots to brag about.
Argentinians like Nostrils, on the other hand, have lots to be modest about.
@76
“You are really obsessed with iPhones.
Psst, I don't give a sh!t about them.”
Nostrils, you say that, because you think they are out of your grasp,
...just like you “don't give a shit about sex with women” ... You feel that's within your reach either.
Not at all. I really don't understand this ailment of zealots like you who feel the need to discredit every solitary point or statement by those deemed “opposition”.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0I really sincerely don't care at all about cell phones, much less about “smart” ones. I possess one solely as an emergency beacon of sorts, in case of exigencies and emergencies. Full stop.
I don't really care about chewing gum either, never have. I guess you will now also assert I cannot afford them either, and claim this as the root of my disinterest.
Inane reasoning at best.
You have skipped over the obvious analogy that you discredit anything that you have no hope of obtaining.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just as you feel you have no hope of having sex with women, you feel you have no hope of getting an iPhone, either.
You denounce both as worthless.
Sounds similar to your Peronist masters - you don't think you have a chance satisfying your moral and contractual obligations to your creditors, so you villanise them...
You're a child in denial.
As I said, an obdurate zealot.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 01:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course, “I have no hope of having sex with women”, is a thoroughly farcical paraphrase.
Not in your case.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 01:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0:-D
You know what this little troll's nightmare is? The Argentine supermodel, Valeria Mazza, showing up at his dwelling dressed in a bikini and holding a new iPhone 6 to give to him.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0The other reoccurring nightmare is some Chilean gypsies stealing his dog eared dictionary...
So I guess it's teenage hour here, adults are no longer present to seriously colloquy.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 01:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0So let's put on some old-school teen TV to match the sorroundings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmyCTpUhoXk
85 NOSTRILS
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 01:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0“So I guess it's teenage hour here,”
Yes, and you're the teenager!!
I bet poor abused Mummy wishes you would leave - or at least, get a job !!
Ever heard the saying “good things come to those who wait?”
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 02:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0The world will know soon enough the ultimate meaning of it.
87 NOSTRILS
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 03:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The world will know soon enough the ultimate meaning of it.”
Nostrils,
Most Mummy's tell their sons, “ you're the best boy in whole world”.
It's not really true - you over estimate your own importance.
#87
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 03:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0While your waiting for good things to come, dream little troll that Valeria Mazza, is going to crawl into your bed and slide a new iPhone 6 down your pajamas....
It will be the ultimate experience you can imagine....
“Pearls before swine”
You people never miss an opportunity for dysphemism.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 03:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good night - wasted too much time with Petulant Troll
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 03:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0#90
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 03:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh no, run troll to your bed and cover your head with a blanket...Chilean gypsies are coming to steal your precious dictionary....
My dictionary is cortical based, it cannot be usurped.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 04:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's called studying.
So, the experts say more Argentines are falling back into abject poverty but TTT has a plan, so no need for anyone to worry.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0TTT, you didn't answer my question. You know the average Argentine has a poorer standard of living than the average Chilean. The reason you cannot bring yourself to accept is that Chile has a free market economy. No economic model is without fault but Argentina is in the dirt directly because you have a jumped-up child winging it and a President stealing from you. Why do you let your government abuse you?
If they didn't spend so much time standing around on the streets burning tires maybe they would be able to crawl out of the hole they are in. Nobody pays any attention to them anyway...they don't get it that they just annoy the rest of us who are required to make detours to get where we are going.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0And the motochorro who attempted to rob the Canadian tourist was set free because they can't find the gun he used. Even though the video of that went all around the world, they have no proof that he did anything “wrong”.
best quote in that article from the Daily Reckoning...
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Meanwhile, over on page 10, the Argentine legislature is giving the US Congress a run for its money as the dopiest group of elected officials in the world'....
It is shocking that 11% of Argentines live in poverty and one third are of risk of slipping back into it.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are there similar statistics for Argentines living in ignorance?
That 1/3 are the ones NOT in poverty because they live off 11 pesos a day....right?
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 076. Poor simpleton, let me explain my post to you, it is really quite simple if you've made it through the 5th grade in the USA or some uni in Argentina.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the USA we have tests to weed out the idiots, the tests go somewhat like this:
In post #74 choose the meaning:
1. iphones are great
2. Everyday articles are out of reach of most Argentinians
3. Argentinians make $5000/mo
4. iphones cost a lot
If you had any sort of schooling or some common sense you'd have picked #2 not #1 like you did.
Your education is an embarrassment. I doubt you could work in a McDonalds here.
I would add that there is no point in TTT getting a iPhone. Last time I was in Mendoza they were abandoning smartphones because they couldn't get parts to keep them going if anything went wrong, like needing a new battery. They were reverting to the most basic mobiles.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@95 Wasn't his attachment to some mafia/Kirchner gang the main reason they let him go?
I don't know what good any new smartphone would be when they don't have 4G yet.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pretty soon it'll be like 1978 when they 1st got color TV when the rest of the world had it for a generation already.
Yankeeboy,
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He must have tremendous phobias to reject the idea of Valeria Mazza crawling into his Buzz Light Year sleeping bag... The idea alone of a woman sliding a new iPhone 6 down his pajamas probably put him into a cold sweat...
@ 102 Chicureo
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0PMSL. :o)
@102 Its an amoeba. Constantly subdividing its self without any cerebral or genetic development.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#104. Redpoll
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, I think you're right...
Wow! I commented that Venezuela, which I love deeply, is in a terrible condition, and that is where I believe is where Argentina is heading and Nostril interprets this as 'Venezuela is better than Argentina'.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I never said that.
Obviously the meds are running low in Argentina too.
Just for a reality check guys, a member of my family had to take a 200 mile round trip to score some Insulin for a diabetic member of our family.
In Venezuela.
Fortunately I was able to transfer funds in order to pay the black market rate, (x9.5), so she can live another month.
Not all families have this advantage.
Such is the socialist paradise of Venezuela.
People are dying.
This is the future of Argentina Nostril!
Stop pontificating online and take your Government to account.
Now!
It's Your Future!
@94
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I did reply to your percontation. I responded by noting that you are lying. And you failed to proffer any evidence to back up your statement. I don't need to as per my reply, since all the GDP per capita and income statistics between the two countries, regardless of source, make it pellucid that both are pretty much level.
@95, 99
I have always found it peculiar in a lurid way that people such as yourselves focus so much on an attempted robbery, when on the same day SIX CHILDREN IN THE USA WERE BLOWN AWAY BY A NORTHAMOAN WITH A GUN.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/dcf-warned-florida-man-weeks-killing-6-grandchildren-article-1.1949276
I also find it ghastly that you all complain about the law enforcement in the attempted robbery case, yet in the horrific incident above we read this diamond of law enforcement:
“...Just two weeks before the murders, a tipster called a child abuse hotline to warn that adults were doing drugs in front of children, according to Florida's Department of Children and Families.
Now residents of Bell, a town of about 500 roughly 43 miles west of Gainesville, are wondering why authorities did not rescue the children from their dangerous grandfather...”
So lets compare the outcomes of Argentine vs NorthAMOAN incompetence:
- Argentine incompetence: guy almost lost his camera
- NorthAmoan incompetence: 7 HUMAN BEINGS MURDERED
Surely USA rules. Well, I'm glad we cleared that one up.
Your education is an embarrassment.;
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0False Analogy: The fallacy of incorrectly comparing one thing to another in order to draw a false conclusion. E.g., “Just like an alley cat needs to prowl, a normal human being can’t be tied down to one single lover.”
Nostril.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You didn't reply to my comments though.
Fact is a third of Argentina is in poverty.
My question is; what are YOU doing to change this.
Will you accept a Venezuelan future?
@109
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It cannot be changed. Full stop.
@108
So Americans are alley cats?
@109 TTT just proved my point that he has accepted failure as his only fate. Shame.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@110 Why not hop over the Andes to Chile and experience a better life? You will have to actually work for a living but you would have hope.
@109 Ilsen
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Presume your question to Nostrils, a.k.a. 4nTrolley was rhetorical......there's not a damned thing he can do to change anything...he'll be flushed down the crapper, despite his oversized feet, along with the one third that are already struggling to keep afloat in the cesspool...
Poor thing you never graduated highschool did you?
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I had 2 rg maids that didn't make it psst the 6th grade and they were smarter than you.
@113
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If I increase my cortical output parameters I would be out of your league and you could not longer converse with me.
Your lack of u$ will take care of that in short order.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So your formal education is up to 8th grade I guess that's why your desperate to claim your educated but you fail on every post.
The funny thing is anyone who ever went to uni sees how tragic you are.
You don't even realize how foolish you appear.
I'm guessing lot of people laugh at you and that's why you like to isolate.
Poor thing
You talk about US classroom grades as if it was a source of pride.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It isn't.
Better than anything in your country.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Someday you should see the UBA slum.
Bring your own toilet paper though. Nary a square on the whole campus.
US high schools better?
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wow, you have some sordid standards for pre-college education if you think the US system is “better”.
“If I increase my cortical output parameters I would be out of your league and you could not longer converse with me.”
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please!
@119
Sep 24th, 2014 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0I tuned up my level for you a year ago. Hence I have been out of your reach ever since.
Ah little troll, I just wanted to say good night, make sure you've taken your bath and had your supper. Now go put on your Teletubbies pajamas and tuck yourself into your Buzz Lightyear sleeping bag, because one of two nightmares may happen:
Sep 24th, 2014 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 01. Some nasty Chilean gypsies are going to steal your precious dog eared dictionary...
OR
2. The incredible Argentine supermodel, Valeria Mazza, is going to crawl into your sleeping bag, dressed in something from Victoria's Secret and is going to shove a new iPhone 6 where the sun doesn't shine...
Sweet dreams!
@ 121 its an amoeba Chirureo. Splits itself in half regularly assuming different identities but with niether cerebral improvement nor genetic change.. Continues to ejaculate (wow!) arcane latin words from its dick shionary to obfusticate its issue. It really needs a visit to the doc
Sep 24th, 2014 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0#122 redpoll
Sep 24th, 2014 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, he does need to visit a doctor...for castration...
Meanwhile, he's breaking into a cold sweat about that iPhone 6 getting shoved down his pajamas...
@122
Sep 24th, 2014 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dysphemism is your forte.
...She's rubbing the iPhone with lubricant...
Sep 24th, 2014 - 02:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Brace yourself troll!
“I tuned up my level for you a year ago. Hence I have been out of your reach ever since.”
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nostrils I have argued you to a standstill more times than I can count in the last year.
You know it and I know it.
Why do you insist on lying. You clearly stated recently that you DON'T lie.
But you do. I think your lying shows a character flaw. All that studying and you are still forced to lie to make a point.
When is your one week annual leave again? So that we can all 'miss' your superior mind and skills?
January 12th to the 22nd is my annual 12 days off.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0@17
Sep 24th, 2014 - 07:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe you should use that holiday to brush up on your maths.
128. bahahahha
Sep 24th, 2014 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Isn't January 12th through the 22nd the annual Tranny Feast in Mendoza? Nice planning TTT.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Claques are the typical defense against unparalleled ratiotination. Which I alone provide. Hence the last three responses, which really do make me wish my vacation was finally here in order to leave this place for a bit.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@132 Don't wait for your vacation. The door is over there…...
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One never walks away from duty to his nation.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0# 131 Queen
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah good morning little troll, I just wanted to to know if your nightmares were as terrifying as I predicted...
I assume your Teletubbies pajamas and Buzz Lightyear sleeping bag, are being thoroughly laundered because those mean and nasty Chilean gypsies tried to steal your precious dog eared dictionary last night.
Perhaps Valeria Mazza tonight will sneak into your sleeping bag and shove a new iPhone 6 where you keep your gerbil...
Have a beautiful day in Mendoza.
@130 Pops. 12-24th Jan is the cloning season for amoebae in Mar del Plata, or was last year
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have always been fascinated about the jaundice displayed towards those with an expansive vocabulary. Instead of praising people which command such a lexical panoply, those with lesser levels of verbal prowess deride or contemn.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reminds me of what all our virtual millionaire pro-capitalists here state: that in too many nations, the poor trash the rich out of jealousy for not being as successful as the former are.
I think the same phenomenon applies here towards my language skills.
Instead of working harder to improve their fluency and range of vocabulary or foreign languages, they resort to evincing negativity and envy.
@136 It is not your vocabulary that is repulsive.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0137 Elaine
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only one who mentions his vocabulary - is himself !!!
Now its got jaundice!!! Do amoebae crap yellow???? Probably needs its nucleus irradiating. Any suggestions Conqueror?
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Her bombastic posts are painful to read. Her lack of confidence screams in every $5 word he uses in a vain attempt to impress.....and always fails.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In my work I deal with a lot of people who think they are smarter than the average bear and as soon as they use words like that I know they're dumb and insecure.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I usually roll my eyes and walk away.
@134 Chicureo
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Impossible. Dont you know that amoebae are monocellular orgasms? Sorry, tipo. Should have said organisms
@141
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So what about people that drive very fancy cars and talk about their iPhone 6 and their “magazine” worthy mansions?
What do we make of them? That they are secure, confident individuals?
hahahaha... you know the answer you are just too ashamed to admit it.
I never said I have a mansion, never said I have a fancy car nor an iphone.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If my name isn't mentioned in the design spread I'll post it. I just ordered a new desk but I won't get it until next year since its handmade.
By then everything should be done.
Maybe we should try love-bombing?
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Allow me to be truthful, something none of you are truly capable of: I generally agree. If I witnessed a person overusing low-frequency terms and stringing sentences together that are filled with arcane lemmas, I would also question their goals with the exercise.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However, I see nothing wrong with sprinkling educated lexicon if performed in moderation.
What YOU PEOPLE cannot admit, in return, is that ostentatious displays of wealth are of the exact same nature: people who must drive a fancier, more loaded-up automobile than others, AND ALSO must wear more expensive shoes than others, AND ALSO display more jewelry than others, AND ALSO talk about their vacations around the world, and mention their capacious and luxuriant abodes... give off the distinct impression of filling a void, of compensating for many shortcomings, of trying to put on airs from lack of substance elsewhere, and evince phoniness and a yearning for special attention (admiration).
The above describes MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of Europeans and North Americans, which is why far from admiring their “wealth”, I pity them. Because underneath all of it, their necessitous desire for peer validation and approbation are painfully manifest in rising to the forefront.
I'm not talking about anyone in particular here, at the moment.
I am referring to an extremely common phenomenon in Europe and North America, which I am told by all of you here, and by the media and popular culture, that I am supposed to admire and be emulous of.
I am smart enough to see behind the gaudy veneer of brand-names and unnecessary gadgetry that drives capitalistic consumerism.
@141
Sep 24th, 2014 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are right - big words without big ideas behind are just embarrassing.
Perhaps our Troll has found an on-line thesaurus to play with?
Elaine
Sep 24th, 2014 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stage direction
Enter Conqueror right, carrying nuke
“May I oblige madam? I just love bombing”
Does anyone else remember that episode of Friends where Joey tries to write a reference using a thesaurus? It reads like nonsense.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really, TTT, if you are not talking about anyone here, why are you boring us all with your innate jealousy of anyone and everyone?
Its grammar is slipping. “emulous of” ? Preposition at the end of a sentence?
Sep 24th, 2014 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thats the sort of thing up with which we should not put?
Grammar myth number 1 of YOUR English language (my third language):
Sep 24th, 2014 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2011/11/grammar-myths-prepositions/
But those Oxford guys are surely a bunch of amateurs on matters of the English language.
Another source:
http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2011/11/grammar-myths-prepositions/
And another:
http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2011/11/grammar-myths-prepositions/
In Germanic languages, it is completely acceptable. It is in Latin languages that this is completely forbidden and erroneous.
The German language constantly ends sentences with prepositions, since they have an entire class of verbs with separable prefixes. English prepositional verbs derive from many of these.
“Ich bringe meinen ungeheueren Wörterbuch mit.”
(“I bring my huge dictionary ALONG”)
Which can also be “I bring along my huge dictionary”.
You are welcome for the free lesson. In your country you would have been charged 10 pounds for it.
Can we please have the lesson written in Serbo Croat or preferably in Double Dutch
Sep 24th, 2014 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And for the record, the German sentence should be:
Sep 24th, 2014 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ich bringe mein ungeheueres Wörterbuch mit.
With my Chinese studies since April, I need to refresh my other languages.
153. Translation software is adequate enough for most business and travel.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where I live you can get human translation for U$1/page!
You've wasted your life.
You should have gone to a Uni and studied something worthwhile.
I don't study languages at a university.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0155. Clearly.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That cheap shot of envy wafts all the way to the southern hemisphere.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You prove my point.
Bahahaha, I think I just peed a little.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Instead of congratulating someone on their achievement of six languages, you trash it. That's simple jealousy. Sorry.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I just pointed out that you can't support yourself with that knowledge and you should have studied something that worth something to somebody.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Although I have a friend who studied Ancient Greek and Latin and has a pretty amazing computer programming job.
How are your ancient languages going?
Bahahahahaha
I don't study ancient languages.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I also don't study to “satisfy” someone else's requirement.
I make it may way, or I don't make it al all.
I rather be miserably poor but happy, than miserably unhappy and rich.
If your friend ENJOYS computer programming, then kudos for him. If he does it merely to make money, then he is miserable. Like that the majority of Americans, who simply become nurses, or accountants because those are the jobs “in demand” but lead miserable, empty lives doing what they do not enjoy.
Same in Europe.
“something worth something to somebody” is code for CAPITALISTIC COMMUNISM. In communism, the government decides what you are to become. Yankeeboy advocates the capitalist version of it: that people choose what to become based on what the market wants, or pays.
What an empty life.
@125 Chicureo
Sep 24th, 2014 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Before he goes to bed, wearing his Teletubby jammies, he puts one of his i-Phones on 'vibrate' mode, then shoves it where the sun don't shine, so he can call himself and fall asleep while being gently massaged.... OR, he can resort to feltching..
@161 4nTrolley
“I rather be miserably poor but happy, than miserably unhappy and rich”....
You forgot the more likely 3rd option : miserably poor and unhappy...
You all imagining me going to be in pajamas with cuddly objets is really starting to perturb me. Please stop.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 016.10/1 and the days not over!
Sep 24th, 2014 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Holy cow.
@163 You are about the most unhappy person I have ever encountered.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@165
Sep 24th, 2014 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So you enjoy strangers engaging in apodyopsis with you? Ok, to each her own.
Finally found it;
Sep 24th, 2014 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://unusedwords.com/
idiot
Unused word?
Sep 24th, 2014 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I just used it, and was apposite for this circumstance.
@163 Trolley Nostril
Sep 24th, 2014 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So you are starting to feel perturbed are you ?? I would have thought that just seeing yourself in the mirror would have been enough to perturb you.
Might the fact that you constantly resort to using ridiculous, uncommon words, trying to give the impression you are intelligent, be an atempt to compensate your enormous inferiority complex ?? If you weren't such a jerk, you might not be singled out for such ridicule....but you just can't resist making a fool out of yourself, can you ?
Nostrils, I asked when your annual leave was so that I could advise you to use it wisely. For someone that places such a high premium on self education and improvement for no other reason than the process, I would tell you to go visit some foreign places instead of living vicariously through the Internet.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Go and actually see and challenge your shallow preconceived notions of somewhere like Chile or a Brazil or Uruguay. To believe that you can know of these places because of the narrow search parameters you use on the Internet is the height of ignorance. Or if you feel you are up for an even greater challenge, head to Europe or North America and confirm your beliefs.
You yourself have complained more than once that people that have not travelled to Argentina cannot know what the real conditions are like. Though you hypocritically do the same.
Or you could travel to Mexico and say hi to me. I'll be spending 2 1/2 months in Mexico from 18 December studying at UNAM. You probably aren't interested in the 3 weeks I'll spend training it from Canada through the US. But Mexico has an awesome culture that I can't wait to experience.
Experience is the best education known to man. The Internet is like describing colours to a blind man.
Why would I say
Sep 24th, 2014 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“engaging in the imagining of people in the naked or undresed with the mind”
when I can say
“apodyposis”?
I just happened to work in that case. It didn't take long for you to search the meaning of the word, and it is far more elegant than the anfractuous turn of phrase that is required to avoid it.
“Why would I say”.....“when I can say ” ????
Sep 24th, 2014 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In case you still haven't yet realized, despite the fact you've been told more than once, 99.9 % of people do not resort to pedantic speech, as it earns them nothing except ridicule......if you are intelligent as you claim, try acting normally for a change.
So, again.... why is it OK to ostentatiously flaunt wealth, but not OK to ostentatiously flaunt knowledge? Over.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#172 Jack Bauer
Sep 24th, 2014 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't push him too much. He hasn't had his coco and animal crackers yet. He's been all nervous today in a cold sweat thinking about when he has to put on his Teletubbies pajamas. The thought of a beautiful Argentine model with an iPhone6 is just too much for him...
Anybody with a brain:
Sep 24th, 2014 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OK to shove displays of wealth in others' faces.
NOT OK to shove displays of knowledge to others' faces.
Why?
¿Por qué?
Por quê?
Warum?
Pourquoi?
為什麼 ?
Perché?
Over.
Nostrils while your autism gives you a talent for languages, it doesn't make you a knowledgable individual. Indeed you are the exact opposite of what you claim.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So I also have Autism about pop and rock music and its history? (remember 120.9 TROLL FM and all the bands from everywhere in the world I exposed you all to?)
Sep 24th, 2014 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I also must have Autism about wine, wine making, wine styles, and regions? (haven't done much of that here)
I also must have Autism about history in general? (done plenty of that)
And also Autism about Geography?
And also Autism in mathematics?
Boy, I must be the most unfortunate Autistic in history.
@173 Trolley
Sep 24th, 2014 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't particularly appreciate people who are ostentatious about their wealth either, just because they might believe it makes them look good, but I think you've got to learn the difference between being 'wealthy' and just being 'well off'. The latter is usually the result of someone being successful in their work...nothing wrong with that ...but it seems you resent anyone who is not poor....why ?
Anyway , it's the “nouveau riche” who usually flaunt their new-found wealth, because their brain is too small to cope with it...differently to those who are born in to wealth that has been in the family for generations.
As for those who are pedantic, or as you like to say “flaunt knowledge”, it's the same reasoning.....the truly knowledgeable do not need to flaunt it.....they have grown accustomed to it.
@174 Chicureo,
I'm doing what I can....
You fail to understand that autism is an inability to engage with people or socialise.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I cannot for the life of me conceive of how you interact with wine experts when you live in a villa and don't work. Or maybe you are just making it up as you go along.
Nostrils
Sep 24th, 2014 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0None of what you know is particularly notable.
The items you list are just general knowledge that all of us have to one degree or another. We all have areas of interest that give us strengths and weaknesses.
You keep claiming that you are somehow superior to others because you believe that have a larger base of knowledge and that just isn't true.
I have more knowledge about urban design and planning than you and thar doesn't mean that I am in anyway superior or inferior to you. It is just what I study and is becoming my area of expertise. And just because I have started learning watercolour because of my ABPL10008 course doesn't make me an artist.
The Internet enables anyone to become an instant (albeit shallow) expert on any topic. The true meaning of knowledge is using it. You learn for the sake of learning. I learn so as to use it.
You learn what you want to learn. You never allow your knowledge to be challenged by experience or another perspective. I don't based my impression of Argentina on what people on this forum say. I look further and still I know I don't have the full facts.
That's the difference between you and a a truly knowledgable person. They know their knowledge is always limited.
You just limit yourself more than most.
#178 Jack Bauer
Sep 24th, 2014 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just because he had half a Tetrapak of Rioja Tinto with ice at a pizzeria, he now thinks he's an expert.
@181 Chicureo
Sep 24th, 2014 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wine in Tetrapak ? real crap....but not to be confounded with 'bag-in-box'....an Australian invention now about 40 years old, and initially used to accomodate wine that was not worthwhile bottling. The aussies soon realized they'd made a strategic mistake, by associating the BIB with cheap wine. After a while they managed to recover the image of the container, which is now widely used for serving “affordable” wines 'by-the-glass', in households (in up to 5 litres boxes) and restaurants (15 litres) across the USA , Europe and Australia/ NZ. Oceania.
@178
Sep 24th, 2014 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm young. Give me time.
@179
I don't make up anything. It is you who is the moron.
Think about it: WHO is the person here who thinks that I live in a “villa”? Did I ever say that?
No, you just confabulated it. That's not MY problem, is it?
@180
I can prove to you VERY easily that I know a huge amount (far more than normal people) about modern music. Let me know if you want the proof.
“I don't base my impression of Argentina on what people on this forum say”.
Then you win the prize for best dissembling of the year.
@181
More jaundice sallied my way.
Think about it people. It is you all who need help.
170 Anglotino
Sep 24th, 2014 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let me know if you are in the Vancouver area, coming up.
Nostrils
Sep 24th, 2014 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So what you know a lot about modern music. And? What has that gained you?
A good friend of mine can tell you the statistics and scores of every game St Kilda has played for MORE than a hundred years. It's a great talent and admirable but it didn't get him his teaching degree nor his wife not his daughter. However he has channelled his Aspergers into a neat trick.
I've told you before about assuming that you know me. I don't based my impression of Argentina on what anyone says here. We all have an axe to grind or a point to prove. I know my limitations. That's not a weakness but a strength.
Troy
I fly into Vancouver at midday Friday 28 November and catch the train down to Seattle on Monday morning. Just a quick visit though I have been twice before. Just enough to get my 'flâneur' on and head to my next urban discovery.
If you wanna catch up for a coffee I'm in. Might be the first time anyone on this forum has actually met in person.
Also visiting Seattle, Portland, Eugene, Sacramento, San Francisco, LA, San Diego, Los Mochis, Copper Canyon and Chihuahua if anyone is around. Only 2-3 days on each as need to get to Mexico City by Xmas.
#183 Little trolley,
Sep 24th, 2014 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Time for supper, your favorite of mashed peas and black pudding!
Afterwards, brush your teeth and take your bath. Your Teletubbies pajamas are clean as well as your Buzz Lightyear sleeping bag.
Again, the reoccurring nightmares are coming to get you. The nasty Chilean gypsies are going to serenade you with a mixed selection of modern music while stealing your precious dictionary... Followed by a few selections of Argentine modern music sung by the supermodel, actress and singer, Señorita Valeria Mazza, as she slides into your sleeping bag, nude with a new iPhone 6.
Sweet dreams!
Nostrils
Sep 24th, 2014 - 11:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When you don't know something you deride it as not worth knowing.
When you can't experience something you deride it as not worth experiencing.
Sometimes in the same sentence you tell us how much you expand your knowledge while at the same time as so thoroughly limiting yourself.
Life is not about the accumulation of knowledge or wealth - you claim one and deride the other though they are in a manner the same thing. Wealth like knowledge is worth nothing if you don't use it.
Life is about the accumulation of experiences.
The person who walks around Stonehenge has not gained the knowledge of someone who studies the same construct for 10 years and never visited it, but they are richer in experience for it.
I've never come across anyone with a mind as closed as yours and never met anyone that would voluntarily limit themselves as comprehensively as you do simply in the hope that it would affect anonymous people on the Internet.
I don't think I have ever said much of anything about Mexico. To Argentines, it is a far away land with a fun culture and we used to think they were really nice people, though Mexicans online come across too acrimonious and with a chip on their shoulder when it comes to Argentina, particularly in sport and music. The feeling is not mutual as we don't see them as rivalry whatsoever in sport. No disrespect, but they are no match to us in any sport except Boxing.
Sep 25th, 2014 - 02:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0In Music there is sometimes a stupid war between them and us over which country produces the best pop music. As a music connoisseur, as with wine, I dismiss such losers on the spot. No music or wine enthusiast dismisses anything based on nationality. Mexico has a very rich musical tradition as Argentina does.
Enjoy your time there.
“No music or wine enthusiast dismisses anything based on nationality.”
Sep 25th, 2014 - 03:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting that it what you now say. Past evidence proves this in another lie.
I see that trying to discuss anything with you truly is pointless as you just gloss over most things. If your post above is all that you got from me today then it is more a reflection on you than me.
Enjoy your narrow, limited life. Funnily enough it is extremely similar to a long jail term. Plenty of time to improve yourself and study but no ability to go anywhere or do anything with it.
185 Anglotino
Sep 25th, 2014 - 04:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0“If you wanna catch up for a coffee I'm in. Might be the first time anyone on this forum has actually met in person. ”
Sounds great. If you're there for the weekend, that gives us plenty of time to meet up.
I expect that on our side, only a few Falklanders know who each other are.
However, I quite sure many of the 'Opposition' are with eachother 'all the time', if you get my drift.
We can meet at Starbucks if you like. I'm easy to spot - 6'4”, 16 stone, muscles... etc. etc.
Troy....Not content with thinking he's a Brit...he now thinks he's me....;-))))
Sep 25th, 2014 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0I thought it was Chile you were planning on visiting Skip....
Troy
Sep 25th, 2014 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Let's make it happen.
A_Voice
Chile is potentially an exchange. Mexico City is just an intensive study abroad for my summer holidays. I get 3 months off so I'm going to travel and study instead of working like the last 2 summers.
Also thinking of heading to Amsterdam for July for another intensive course.
Chile or Colombia for 2016.
The joys of studying Urban Planning is that it is a global phenomenon and I plan on stretching my degree across as many countries as possible.
Part of my Masters probably in Montreal and/or Germany.
PhD.... who knows.
Anglotino. I wish you all the best for both your studies and your travels. Sounds a truly excellent and epic trip.
Sep 25th, 2014 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Carpe Diem! Happy Trails!
@189
Sep 26th, 2014 - 12:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0What do you want me to say? ”OK, I am going to drop everything right now, my edification, my personal studies, my extracurricular schooling, and my other duties, and simply become a backpacker and perambulate?
Would that sound responsible, sensible, logical, and even-keeled?
And why would I subject myself to the vitriol, obloquy, and churlish treatment that I endure here in longanimity, in real life? I think the feelings of foreigners towards Argentines are cristal clear not only by the behavior or people here, but by the attitude in other forums, and by governments around the world.
Sorry, I am not in the appetite to be the subject of gratuitous humiliation, earn solely for my national origin.
Idiot child Tobias with a mental age of 6? ... 5? ... 4? is blabbering as usual.
Sep 26th, 2014 - 02:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0The entire public health system in Mendoza is collapsing for lack of money.
I have under paid doctor friends, but in a way that doesn't really matter, as they haven't been paid for up to 10 months; systems and modern instruments break down and there isn't any money to have them repaired; hospitals are lacking medicine and just about anything else. The budget is raised by 25% although the inflation is 40% (“Aumentan 25 % anual contra una inflación del 40”).
Colapso del sistema de salud en Mendoza
http://www.losandes.com.ar/article/denuncian-crisis-en-atencion-de-la-salud
@195
Sep 26th, 2014 - 02:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0I've had enough of this abuse. I have tried to be open-minded and discuss without trolling, insults, and topic deflection. Obviously you all bleat about it, but then to all POSSIBLE to get me back to behave that way.
Don't cry when I do.
@ 5 Klingon who wrote: “And the vultures insist on making a 1600% profit from us.”
Sep 26th, 2014 - 02:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please either
1. provide documented accounting showing a 1600% profit
or
2. retract the statement.
FYI:
1. ”...series of bonds were issued by Argentina. The series in question comprise holdings in 12% Global Bonds which mature on 1 February 2020, and 10.25% Global Bonds which mature on 21 July 2030. ... Argentina’s evidence is that the bonds in question were purchased by NML’s affiliates at various times from 6 June 2001 to 2 September 2003 at an aggregate price of 55.37% and 62.82% of the face value of the respective series. (Note the percentages of face values paid)
NML Capital Ltd v The Republic of Argentina [2009] EWHC 110 (Comm) (29 January 2009) - England and Wales High Court
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Comm/2009/110.html
2. The disputed bonds, issued by Argentina in February and July 2000, were purchased by NML between June 2001 and September 2003, at a little over half their face value of US$172 million. The bonds were governed by New York law, resulting in a 2006 U.S. judgment that Argentina owed NML the full value of the bonds plus 112 million in unpaid interest, according to the judgment of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom. (Note the amount)
Sovereign immunity in NML Capital Ltd v Republic of Argentina - Supreme Court of the United Kingdom - Judgment (06 July 2011)
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Comm/2009/110.html (page 2 (3 in the .pdf))
3. The principal value of the bonds claimed was US$172,153,000. Unpaid interest on the bonds and interest on the unpaid interest claimed amounted to US$112,031,632.30. The total claimed was therefore US$284,184,632.30.
Republic of Argentina v NML Capital Ltd [2010] EWCA Civ 41 (04 February 2010)
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Comm/2009/110.html
Now multiply face values by percentages of face values, add interests, and you will be much the wiser.
Ah little troll, I just wanted to say again one more time, good night, make sure you've taken your bath and had your supper. Now go put on your Teletubbies pajamas and tuck yourself into your Buzz Lightyear sleeping bag, because again one of two nightmares may happen:
Sep 26th, 2014 - 04:39 am - Link - Report abuse 01. Some nasty Chilean gypsies are going to steal your precious dog eared dictionary...
OR
2. The incredible Argentine supermodel, Valeria Mazza, is going to crawl into your sleeping bag, dressed in something from Victoria's Secret and is going to shove a new iPhone 6 where the sun doesn't shine...
Sweet dreams!
#197 good luck. I've asked a similar question to the trolls who bitch about the so called “1600%” profit.
Sep 26th, 2014 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What the contractual interest rate is
who many years has it been (13?)
what is the true annualized rate
etc, etc. Again idiots trying to control profit margins.....gross margins at that.
@198 An apposite quote for our bombastic troll:
Sep 26th, 2014 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“He has the gift of compressing the largest amount of words into the smallest amount of thought.”
Winston S Churchill
@ 199 Captain Poppy
Sep 26th, 2014 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0NML own Argentine bonds a total of (nominal = face value) of US$ 832 million. They, like other hedge funds, are vultures when it pays, but as can be seen from the 29 January 2009 ruling, they paid about 59% of 172.153 million = 101.73 million for about 20% of their bonds.
Thus NML paid 59%.
Argentina paid 29% for their restructured bonds on a take it or get nothing “offer”.
Who is the most greedy vulture?
@194 4nTrolley
Sep 26th, 2014 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“....and simply become a backpacker and perambulate ?”
To put you studies etc, on hold for a year or two, and get to see the world, might not be such a bad thought...it would be an experience just as, or more valuable, than your books, as it would allow you to see Argentina from outside of your cocoon, from a perspective you'll never get from a book..
192
Sep 26th, 2014 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm getting a little confused here Skip....
As I understand it...you work...a job.... and you study part-time to get a degree....
How do you get 3 months off from work....
...or have I been reading the posts from a different Skip...all this time....
The best thing I ever did was travel Europe right out of high school for 3+ months.
Sep 26th, 2014 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It changed me and it was a wonderful experience that set up my love of seeing new country at least once a year.
Hey Voice....you're back after that long awaited succession vote. Sorry to hear about your loss...
Sep 26th, 2014 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't be jealous Voicey, you can't travel anyway.
Sep 26th, 2014 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can't afford it, or no-fly list???
:-)
A lot of British students take a gap year to travel and work between A levels and university. They grow up. They gain life experience. They are more employable.
Sep 26th, 2014 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TTT is completely unemployable and hides behind 'studying' as an excuse. You can work and study. Most people work while studying for their Masters. Study seems to be an excuse to sponge off parents/the system.
205
Sep 26th, 2014 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice try Pops.....
I don't like gambling and I don't like risks...I have plenty of investment in Scotland and some in England...I wasn't about to jeopardise that over an ideal...I voted No...
206
What's jealous about remembering everything that people write....
So when someone states something that doesn't fit with what I remember...
I feel duty bound to enquire as to why that is....
Like I did about Chile also....
I could hardly be on a no fly list with a place in PA ...that I can afford to sit empty until I have the time and inclination to visit it........Doh!
...doesn't everyone have properties in different countries.....Oooo...I didn't realise....;-))))
C'mon..it takes seconds to create a throw away email address...whataya waiting for...?...wonder where the IP address will originate from...:-)))
C'mon Troyboy...post it....
Buying bread from a man in Brussels
He was six foot four and full of muscle
I said, “Do you speak-a my language?”
He just smiled and gave me a Vegemite sandwich
And he said:.....
@203 A_Voice
Sep 27th, 2014 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I'm getting a little confused here Skip....”
You are consistent.
“As I understand it...you work...a job.... and you study part-time to get a degree....”
Yes I have never stated otherwise. I am currently studying a Bachelor of Environments and majoring in Urban Design and Planning. I am now in my fourth semester after 2 years.
http://benvs.unimelb.edu.au/bachelor-environments-urban-design-and-planning-major-2015
I'm also doing a concurrent Diploma in Modern Languages. However I don't do a 50 point load per semester (4 subjects) but usually 2-3.
“How do you get 3 months off from work....”
By requesting it. I can't tell you where I work but I work 3 days per week and my job allows me to put my studies before work. Those 3 months fit perfect from the end of the exam period to the first week of uni next year.
My job is also aware that I wish to travel next June and July to Europe.
I don't work full time and haven't done so during semester for 2 years.
“ ...or have I been reading the posts from a different Skip...all this time....”
Nope. You just assume some things and then wonder why reality seems different. I've always been consistent and have never lied.
What is sometimes forgotten is that I have travelled to/through 28 countries and several years. I also owned real estate that I have just sold which is helping to finance this trip.
Also my university helps pay for study overseas - I'll be getting a minimum of $1,000 for this trip. But there is the chance that I will get over $20,000 for my one year exchange.
Oh and my email address is anglotino@gmail.com - always has been. Only used to log into this site.
@207
Sep 27th, 2014 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't you find it a sad commentary that all you do is cast aspersions of others, principally me?
Quite pathetic.
Well, other than the cold showers, rigorous drills and inspections, the Chilean government sent me on the grand tour qof my life. Granted the pay was low and the hours long, serving one's country as a young man is highly recommended by me.
Sep 27th, 2014 - 02:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0@207 Its got the hump Elaine. It wants to be loved. Do Mendoza camelids aka guanacos have a hump? Dunno. No bichos like that in Uruguay.
Sep 27th, 2014 - 03:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0So now it casts nastursiums (aspersions) on others, poor little me!!!!!!!
Nastursiums are great as a picante in salads, but only their tail pieces.
The rest is just floral hyperbole.
@ 212 redp0ll Guanacos do not have a hump like European, African and Asian camels.
Sep 27th, 2014 - 05:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0They are very pretty and somewhat shy, although I have been as close as 2-3 meters a few times (the trick is to hide your narrow predator eyes).
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