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British Airways cuts weekly London/Buenos Aires direct flights to five a week
British Airways will be eliminating two direct flights between Buenos Aires and London beginning 31 March 2015, meaning the weekly schedule will be cut from seven to five flights, mainly because of a drop in the number of passengers. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesQuantas(sic) didn't just stop flying into BA from Sydney direct... Aerolineas Argentinas has ceased all their trans Pacific flights as well.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 07:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0BA reduces flights to BA from 7(too many!) to 5(still too many!).
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0I used to fly BA's 747's down to BsAs via Sao Paulo and it was always full. Once I was offered £800 to delay one day because of overbooking. (I didn't take it). Then BA changed to a 777 flying direct. This eliminated First Class and reduced seats plus flying time by a couple of hours. Shortly after that my brief changed and now I tend to fly to SoAm via the US and into Santiago. So, it is hard to imagine half-empty flights on what was a very busy route.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Even the budget airlines like Air Europa struggle to fill their flights , despite the large numbers of Argentines now living in Europe .
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0The best news of the day. I hope that Brazil is also benefited with the reduction of links with Wertern countries.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bums on seat, simple as that.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5 You say that because you are too poor to ever fly anywhere. Brazilians in general love to travel.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, it's true. I'd love to meet Wall of China, the Buddhist temples of Thailand, Ulan Bator in Mongolia, the ancient capital of the Roman Empire (Constantinople), the Giza pyramids (Cheops, Chephren and Mycerinus).
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0I do not know anything worth seeing in Western countries.
@8 You are showing your ignorance. Just because you don't know anything worth seeing does not mean there is nothing worth seeing.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0You should really try to be more open-minded and less brainwashed into simplistic thinking. I don't like what the Argentine government is doing to its people but I love visiting the country.
“I do not know anything worth seeing in Western countries.”
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's because you lack a decent education.
less out side flights to Argentina, the more chances of them getting more fitter,
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0having to walk more like...lol
@8
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I do not know anything worth seeing in Western countries.”
Constantinople is in Europe, in the EU in fact.
12 - ummm, in Europe maybe but not in the EU and not called Constantinople for over a hundered years.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BA is taking steps so they don't get into the same position asthe airlines in Venezuela.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OK, EU applicant then.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#8 dumbfuck......do you know that you too....are in the western world? As Elaine said....your ignorance does not mean there is nothing worth seeing........even ignorance of your own country. You must shampoo your hair daily from having your head deeply inserted into your asshole on a regular basis.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here is something to chew on as you shampoo:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-22/brazil-suffers-slow-growth-with-lula-china-policy-sowing-doubts.html
Argentina is getting locked down again. They are going to revert back to the 50-70s when only the very wealthy could travel. Slowly interet access, Int'l Tv will become so expensive only the upper middle class will be able to afford it and then the Gov't can tell them anything they want without it being verified with news from the outside world.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its gonna get worse.
Much worse.....unless something explodes and soon.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lets face it, why would Argentines choose to travel with BA on modern aircraft when they can enjoy a white-knuckle ride on AA , with the in-flight entertainment involving the placing of huge bets on whether they will arrive at their destination nor not?
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When the AA aircraft maintenance louts were on strike last year Clarin showed the photos of their picket line which was next to their own car park. In fact many of them were sitting in their cars during breaks from haranguing people crossing the line.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now you have to realise what it is to be an aircraft technician: the main attribute is a real sense of public safety that pervades everything they do, not only at work but as a code of living.
Most of the cars on the car park had such badly damaged, rusty bodywork that if they were in a collision with pedestrians the pedestrians would suffer far more injury than if the car had been maintained correctly. For this reason alone I would NEVER travel on AA, the people they employ don’t carry responsibility within themselves so why bother with the planes?
Most normal Argentines fly LAN. One thing I always thought was strange.....they all applaud when they land. It's a SA thing.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Airline stories on mercopress always prompt me to checkout the latest comments on Aerolineas on airlinequality.com -guaranteed to give you lots of laughs
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good. Less chemicals for us to spray in the mephitic atmosphere of the foreign cabins, in order to avoid any bizarre EUian pests and ailments from entering the pristine Argentine environment.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“pristine Argentine environment.”
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://science.time.com/2013/11/04/urban-wastelands-the-worlds-10-most-polluted-places/slide/matanza-riachuelo-argentina/
*yawn yet ANOTHER lie.
When you fly over BA to the south you can see the black water flowing into the open. It is disgusting.
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Matanza-Riachuelo is bad but so is Tigre and people swim in that!
Poor people swimming in black water.
What could go wrong?
Swath of ocean bewteen California and Hawaii most polluted sea on Earth:
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://myecoaction.com/what-is-the-great-pacific-garbage-patch/
If there is no regional flights, the luxury bus service in Argentina is very good. Double decker, lie flat seats, full meal service... ,
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 10:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Also, although I prefer to fly LAN, Aerolíneas is doing a decent service at the moment.
Anyone flying to Mendoza should fly via Santiago.
As demands require, LANTAM - LANArgentina is ready to fill South America's needs.
Where is that IMBECILE of Cabeza Dura???
Sep 23rd, 2014 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.aa2000.com.ar/
Check the departures screens. Compare Mendoza and Cordoba. I can go to more places from Mendoza (San Juan, Salta, Neuquén, Comodoro Rivadavia, Jujuy, Iguazu, San Rafael, Buenos Aires), than from CORDOBA!!! (Comodoro Rivadavia, Mendoza, Jujuy, Buenos Aires)
You arrogant uncouth dunce from a ill-forgotten urban wasteland in the middle of the pampa. Know your place, NO ONE goes to Cordoba.
#28
Sep 24th, 2014 - 12:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pamela David - Born in Cordoba, Argentina, Pamela David is an actress and model. She is a television star & model in the reality TV show El BarTV 2 and is currently the hostess in a Canal 2 TV program called Fuera de Foco.
But of course, since you don't like attractive and intelligent women, she's “nobody”
I don't even know most of these people.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 12:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't watch television. It is voluntary slavery with the cachet of governments. That's how Europe and North America have been distracted from disaster.
As for attractive women:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6eib5Ky_X8
Check from minute 6:30... and see WHO won last year.
And this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6eib5Ky_X8
2012... @ minute 2:20
And guess what happened in 2010?
What province has won THREE of the last four years???
That's why I live here and you don't. I can cohabitate, the rest of you would devolve into brutish satyriasis.
Trolltrannie,
Sep 24th, 2014 - 01:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pamela David, is also going to crawl into your sleeping bag, dressed in something from Victoria's Secret and shove a new iPhone 6 where the sun doesn't shine...
I think it's funny that the “hellhole” provinces of Formosa, Chaco, and Misiones, which Cabeza Dura always trashes, have FAR more seductive and elegant women than his superior “Cordoba”.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course in a contest of this nature “for university students”, attractiveness alone doesn't cut it. You need supernal intelligence. Which is why Mendoza always wins. Beauty + Noetics.
I imagine you're a real expert in beautiful and intelligent women.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 02:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Watch out for those gypsies... Better hold on to your previous dictionary.
I am an expert in beauty and intelligence, what comes after is irrelevant.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 02:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0@34
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0The article is about you? ;)
34 is a self taught expert in beauty being tobi the tranny boi he is. Is it hard to tape when you get excited tranny boi? Does your mommy know your dark side and inner secrets? Did this happen in the basement from daddy or were you born that way? Are you pre op yet?
Sep 24th, 2014 - 09:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0LOL! I missed another TTT meltdown. He is very quick to trash his own beloved country when it suits.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0I've been to Cordoba. I like university towns full of young people having the time of their lives. I particularly love the estancias in the region. Complete luxury, which is why TTT will never go there. Ever.
“I don't watch television” TTT you told us you watch English soaps to improve your language skills. Just because you watch them on your computer it is still a T.V. programme.
“That's why I live here and you don't. ” You live there because that is where your mother gave birth to you, no other reason, and you don't have the wit or means to move anywhere else.
“I am an expert in beauty and intelligence” How shallow. And we all know how much you despise ALL women including your own mother so why are you banging on about who has the best women?
The above is the most vacuous post ever written on this website.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Every single “point” abused redacted by her to lambaste me is based on untruthful premises leading to conclusions filled with falsehoods.
The queen of subreption. Not a proud title to have bestowed upon one.
@38 LOL!
Sep 24th, 2014 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I did not trash my country.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have no way of asseverating “I will never be at an estancia boutique hotel”.
I do not watch soap operas anymore, in any language. No longer have the need. So I do not watch television.
I live in Mendoza because I want to, and YOU cannot speak for me.
I do not despise women and my mother.
You really need clinical help for your compulsive bouts of confabulation and mendacities.
40. You know how we all know you have no formal education?
Sep 24th, 2014 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reread #38.
You are an idiot who thinks they are smart.
Nothing worse.
If you had at your command the capacity to straighten out the usage of your subject pronouns (101 of language and 2nd grade stuff), I could perhaps actually NOT believe your statement and assert that you are lying.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Since I am cognizant you cannot figure this out, I will just wend without casting upon you further ignominiousness.
@40 You are guilty by your own words.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You trash your own country in this thread - read your own words.
I guess if your 'big plan' (still waiting for that one to come to fruition) fails you might get a job on an estancia but I think your personality might be a barrier to employment.
You don't watch television 'anymore'. LOL!
You have no possibility of ever leaving Mendoza so you are stuck there.
You, by your own words, have said that you despise all women with no exceptions.
Have you thought that maybe you should pause before posting? You let your temper dominate too much.
#38 queen of subreption
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So, did the Queen of Cordova, Pamela David, crawl into your sleeping bag, and shove a new iPhone 6 down your nightgown?
@43
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yet you can't provide a sole quote to validate your balarney.
@44
What is it with your vociferous prurience regarding women and cellular phones? Go to a toy shop.
TTT do you use $1 words on a 10 cent website to help inflate your ego thinking it will fix your inferiority complex? People with IQ's and minds far beyond your self imaged genius hardly speak in your grandiloquent manner. You impress no one but yourself. Remove your tampon Tobi the terrible tranny and put on a new skirt. Your party is quickly coming to and end. DO use a favor and finish your estrogen injections.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#44 I think it went up his ass.
@46
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So you believe ostentatious flaunting of wealth are culturally and morally more acceptable or worthy of praise than overt displays of lexical command.
You are a Philistine King.
47; You are clearly an uneducated idiot with an inferiority complex.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Answer the question!!
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is more of a display of your lacking and desire to be something. Change your tampon you are starting to stink.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let me be truthful, something none of you are capable of: I generally agree. I witnessed a person overusing low-frequency terms and stringing sentences together that are filled with arcane lemmas, I would also question their goals.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However, I see nothing wrong with sprinkling educated lexicon if done in moderation.
What YOU PEOPLE cannot admit, in return, is that ostentatious displays of wealth are of the exact same nature: people who must drive a fancier, more loaded-up automobile than others, AND ALSO must wear more expensive shoes than others, AND ALSO display more jewelry than others, AND ALSO talk about their vacations around the world, and mention their capacious and luxuriant abodes... give the distinct impression of filling a void, of compensating for many shortcomings, of trying to put on airs from lack of substance elsewhere, and evince phoniness and a yearning for special attention,
The above describes MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of Europeans and North Americans, which is why far from admiring their “wealth”, I pity them because underneath all of it, their necessitous desire for validation and approbation are painfully manifest.
I've never flaunted wealth, I've said before I grew up around great wealth but my family was not comparatively rich we've just been around a long long long time.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just because I can travel and live well doesn't mean I am rich.
I'm not talking about anyone in particular here, at the moment.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm talking about an extremely common phenomenon in Europe and North America, which I am told by all of you here, and by the media and popular culture, I am supposed to admire and emulate.
I am smart enough to see behind the gaudy veneer of brand-names and unnecessary gadgetry that drives capitalistic consumerism.
Its easy to eschew things you'll never be able to afford.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its sad that you think common place items and quick trips are somehow lavish and only for the uber wealthy.
See there you go. Your intolerance for people that do not show an interest in the things you value.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So, TTT, you are not talking about anyone here, just venting your jealousy of people with more than you in general?
Sep 24th, 2014 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your inferiority complex brought you to that conclusion. A normal person would never have come to that conclusion by what i wrote.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't care about how much people “earn”. I do care about how they display it.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why is it that intelligent people (and to avoid tangential commentary, I recuse myself from this label for the sake of discussion), need to “hide” their knowledge in today's world? Haven't you noticed that?
Smart people, the saying goes, need to stay quiet. To listen to the idiots.
People with a large vocabulary, need to keep it secret, never to use it.
Yet popular cultural states you should display wealth to the point of egregiousness.
Why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn88icJ2z2c
Somehow, this commercial is supposed to inspire awe in me. As a concomitant, it is supposed to compel me to run out and purchase this product in order to be “a little more like the extremely wealthy men who as a result of their wealth and tawdry displays, have no issues alluring females”.
In me, it evokes the exact opposite reaction. Aversion and a rebarbative viewpoint of the product.
I do however admit that most young people are impressionable and will fall for such shallow visual chicanery.
You see, to people like you, if a person chooses modesty over flashiness, frugality over dissipation, they must be jealous of those who choose the latter. Your mind is warped.
Again, I've never said that, in my crowd “flashiness” would get you shown to the door.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are a jealous and very insecure guy.
People don't like you because you dress badly its because you're a dick.
BTW Ciroc is great vodka!
TTT, you are aiming your anger in the wrong direction. CFK LOVES designer names and showing her flashy jewellery. She loves to boast about her daughter shopping on 5th Avenue, New York and brazenly used Tango 1 to fly her son to the doctor when he had a bit of a hurty knee. Now that is unashamed flaunting of wealth in a trashy manner. You should serve your country and condemn her at once!
Sep 24th, 2014 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW most intelligent people know advertising for what it is and are not taken in by it, so don't worry.
@60
Sep 24th, 2014 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Most Europeans and North Americans are not intelligent. Sorry.
@59
You need to try a Canadian vodka called Skull. Don't ask me how I tried it, but I did.
Skull is swill its only popular here around Halloween for the bottle.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Based on patents alone USA UK EU are smarter than just about any other place.
Try again.
@62
Sep 24th, 2014 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whatever. You probably like Bacardi over Zaya, and Jonny Walker over Oban.
Most of those patents are by poached Indians, Chinese, Asians, and yes even some Latin Americans. So no credit.
Haha you probably thought skull was good because all you've ever had is the crap that's made in Argentina. BTW that will make you blind.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I love how you try to turn it back onto me though.
Anyhoo, yes people steal our patents, that's why you don't see business succeeding or smart people living in countries that don't respect private property.
@63 But what about your flashy, trashy, (stolen) wealthy, designer-loving, Argentine President? Don't you just hate her?
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Most Europeans and North Americans are not intelligent.”
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well they choose not to live in Argentina, that's pretty high on the intelligence index for starters!
Argentina does not have any history with spirits nor a culture of making them, and I would never drink an Argentine spirit, ever.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mexican Tequila, Pisco from Chile or Peru, Cachaça from Brazil, Rum from Trinidad or Barbados, Rye Whisky from the USA, Scotch from Scotland, Armagnac from France, Grappa from Tuscany, and Vodka from either Canada or Poland, sometimes Scandinavia, Raki from Turkey, and Junmai Sake from Japan.
I would never drink an Argentine spirit.
Unfortunately I have and it wasn't nice. I can't imagine you'l be able to get imported liquors for very long.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You should stock up.
Great item to trade when you need it
which will be shortly or now as the case may be.
@67 But you do drink, that much is evident.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@63
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She is president and she gets an excemption from non-work related criticism.
As for her daughter, yes, she is a brainwashed drone with no personality. Like tens of millions of EUian and NorthAmoan kids. Why do you single her out, that is the question, instead of criticizing your own nation's youth?
@68
“I can't imagine you'l be able to get imported liquors for very long.”
LOL, you really are that naïve.
No, I lived there and you still seem very unaware of what is happening to your economy.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hope you've paid attention over the last few years.
Even if that were true, I have more than enough high quality wine around me to fill most of that void. Don't worry about me. I drink very sparingly anyway since I have been learning languages and vocabulary and mathematics, circa 2011.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0high quality?
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0methinks not
And I got you again. That's the difference between me and you.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can state without qualms when something “argentine” is crap (spirts, or the behavior of our women).
You trash EVERYTHING Argentine because you are an insecure loser that has a visceral hatred for the country. I still believe some argie woman dumped you and trashed your little heart, thus fueling the fire of your crass ill-will.
There is plenty of high-quality wine in Mendoza. Go cry about that truth elsewhere.
#46 Captian Poppy
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pamela tried to, but the gerbil pushed it back out.
#63. Miss Queentroll
If you're so non-brand opinionated, why is it that you insist on wanting to own the new iPhone6?
Do you know that you can download the entire Oxford Dictionary into its memory?
TTT, CFK represents your country. She is the image your voters want to project. She loves brands and flashy jewellery. No exemptions, she is Argentina.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@75
Sep 24th, 2014 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't want the iPhone 6, because I have no need for it.
I don't need the Oxford Dictionary in a cell phone. I need a cell phone to make quick calls. I have any dictionary I want for free online.
@76
“She is Argentina”
You were the one who said Tony Blair was not Britain. So you have changed your mind. I'm glad we agree that the British supported a war of aggression without legal or moral backing.
I think we both agree the TB took the country to war on false pretences and CFK is a trashy, flashy, thief representing Argentina.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know you haven't been to BsAs for a decade but, trust me, the people there LOVE designer brands and everything European. The advertisements in the malls all show white Europeans dressed in wealthy imported goods. At least they did before the economy crashed.
#78. Elaine
Sep 24th, 2014 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You'll see something like that on a much smaller scale at the Mendoza Plaza Shopping Mall where the Chilean Falabella department store is located along several typical mall stores, American fast food chains and an obligatory Starbucks..
@78
Sep 24th, 2014 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't you realize how your mind is totally perverted anent my statements?
Where did I ever say “All Argentines think like me, in that they eschew the SEQUACIOUS chasing after of shallow brand-name goods?
Most people in the ”western world“ have been warped by this dogma.
”show white Europeans“
They also show ”white Europeans“ in the malls of Chile, Peru, Colombia, Mexico.... India and Asia. In fact, several of those are ”argentines“.
Given the denizen demographics of the mentioned countries including Argentina, where is the phenomenon of an inordinate percentage of ”white Europeans” being depicted in advertising, to educe a more alarming picture of subliminal societal coaxing? Buenos Aires or Mexico City? Buenos Aires or Mumbai? Buenos Aires or Shanghai?
I like Rg wine, but high quality it is not. My friends that know wine won't drink it.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is always the cheapest red on any menu in the USA.
I lived there where they weren't blocking imports and I rarely ever saw CA or French wines on the Arg Menus.
You think they are good because you haven't had really good.
Anyway I agree with Elaine you are one of the saddest people I have ever run across and so jealous of anyone with money it oozes from you and its not pleasant.
@81
Sep 24th, 2014 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your friends know sh!t about wine. And I dare you to bring one over here to discuss it with me, in the open.
NO true wine enthusiast, let alone a wine connoisseur, would display the censorious attitude of outright eliminating an entire class of wines from his or her selection scope. I have met many from around the world, and not ONE would comport in such fashion. The true lovers and studies of wine appreciate and CHAMPION wine from everywhere on Earth, particularly underdog or emerging regions like Bulgaria, Tunisia, Peru, Canada, even England with potentially good quality sparklers.
The only people I have seen to behave like “your wine friends” are wine SNOBS, which is very a very different creature. Wine snobs are sophomoric sciolists. which are laughed out of gatherings of true oenophiles.
To judge Argentine wine by some 3rd rate restaurants in the USA is all I need to know about your wine experience and knowledge. In those same restaurants you have gems like entry-level Blackstone, Yellowtail, and Mouton Cadet, which are piss.
From now on please refrain yourself further embarrassment and cease discussing this with me. I have proven I know about liquor, and I only know a fraction of that industry compared to wine, winemaking, and the culture that surrounds it.
@82 So you work at one of the wineries?
Sep 24th, 2014 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina makes SOME very good quality Malbecs, and A few very decent sparkling wines. The rest of it is subpar Yellowtail, Charles Shaw...or worse.,
Sep 24th, 2014 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Although Peru makes the best Pisco Brandy, their wine is undrinkable.
Frankly, there's a reason most Argentines add water to their tinto.
Mendoza has some very nice wineries and resorts. All most all of them are for sale.
Anyway, Condorito is our resident wine expert who would probably agree that our female challenged troll with a phobia about iPhone6 insertion is an idiot regarding wine.
yeah okay. I almost bought a winery there fool.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are a sad little creature.
@85 They tried to sell me a winery last year. Some US friends with me were tempted until I talked them out of it.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 084. I agree with you. They have a modest number of wines rated in the 90s. But if tranny boi claims yo know wines then he knows where California wines rank in the world of wine.......that's an unarguable fact. And price is far from a barometer of quality but supply and demand.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So tranny boi tobi....you speak of 3rd rate restaurants in the usa and we know you are an expert living in Argentina.......the land of bbq.....how about telling us of 1st restaurants of the usa....oh. sorry.
....you can't because you have never been or cannot afford. Yes we all know you never would....if you could.
yb is right though. Melbac is all you can get in restaurants latwly. Try finding a Zinfandel or a Cabernet Merlot. I personal think Melbac is a little primitive but ok.
#87 Captain Poppy
Sep 24th, 2014 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are some very good international wines, France, Italy, Spain, California, South Africa, New Zealand, Australia... My personal favorite is the “premier grand cru” of Pinot Grand Fenwick, but on a cost value basis, Chile has great advantages over Argentina.
I am only an ocassional drinker....but yes. The world over there are many good and fine wines.....and Argentina is in that group...as is Chile....Australia.....hell. even Massachusetts have wineries.....not fine....but quite good.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I could count on both hands the number of times I saw CA or French wines on restaurant menus in Argentina. I may even have a couple of fingers left over when I'm done.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They think their wines are great because they have never had great wine.
It is the same NPD that makes them think Argentina is 1st world and BA is modern and just as safe as a city in a civilized country.
I really think that I never seen anything other than Argentine wine in restaurants. Very provincial minded.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 091. Its not that they don't want it, its that they can't get it and even when they can with taxes and mark up nobody would buy it.
Sep 24th, 2014 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you ever see the price of Int'l liquor in the stores?
#92 YB
Sep 24th, 2014 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...that's why Think buys his single malts in Chile....
I buy mine in duty free or at Costco when I'm in the States.
@83
Sep 25th, 2014 - 02:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think I have revealed enough. I don't think my knowledge should be surprising considering I have been to wineries since I was 7 years old on school trips, and you learn about the industry in high-school. And then I can on my own take a bus to the winery route in the 1ra Zona. Add to that my assiduous studying on my own... and slowly I fretted a path to meet people and attend tastings.
@84
You really are quite behind the times in your knowledge of Peru. Sure their quality wine quantities are still exiguous, but it does prove the POTENTIAL is there. And they as well as foreigners are starting to unearth it.
Yes, I'm an idiot regarding wine. I just have to laugh at statements like that, which show such a massive chip of inferiority and ostrich-acting.
@87
Let me explain something to you about supply and demand.
California wines fall into two categories: quaffers and celebrities. You will have a difficult time finding anything in between. The quaffers are the stuff like Blackstone; another in that rank is one called Cavit. They are no better than the Damajuana wine I find next to the firewood at the market around the corner. Just because they come in a Bordeaux bottle means nothing.
Then you have the “celebrities”: Mondavi, Wagner (maker of the Caymus), Stags' Leap, who was the one at the 1976 Paris tasting, Staglin, Kendall-Jackson, Shafer, and of course the Opus (which I have not tried because I am poor).
What they have in common is that they were wine makers BEFORE 1976, and so their wines got a massive price boost after 1976 in the American market, which can command high prices due to the size of the market. It doesn't mean they are better wines than the better Argentine makers like Achaval Ferrer, Decero, Pulenta, Catena, Felipe Rutini, Angulo Innocenti, high end Trapiche stuff, or any wine that comes from the El Peral, La Consulta, Barrancas, Las Compuertaz, Altagaray, or the best zones in Maipu and (mostly for Cabernet).
Learn some more.
#94
Sep 25th, 2014 - 02:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0You learned all that by taking a local bus?
Name one good wine from Peru.... Go ahead, check your computer... Just one...
Pisco is another matter as they have the best.
Another slight problem is that the profitable price points for those very good bottlings are well above USD 30 in the States. And no, I'm not referring to the premiums that retail above USD100. This is a new word for you to understand: competitiveness
“They are no better than the Damajuana wine I find next to the firewood at the market around the corner...” I'm impressed with your judgement of wine....
@95
Sep 25th, 2014 - 03:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not the American stuff obviously. Neither the French or Italian stuff.
The Argentine stuff? Yes, partly.
Why would I name a wine from Peru, you just tipped yourself away that you will think I googled it. It's getting late.
The Achaval Ferrer, Catena, Rutini, and Pulenta wines already sell at above 30. ALL of them. Yes, I googled it to check the latest prices. I don't have to be in the USA to see that you idiot! But I already had an idea that their prices are higher.
If there is a significant issue with “competitiveness” and Mendoza, it is actually not a bad thing. Something that happened in California, and Australia, and CHILE, is that either
a) once those areas became famous, they either entered a “price trap” (which Chile is still in to some extent)
b) the areas got so over-invested that tons of people that shouldn't have made wine did, which ruined reputation (Australia and California for a time suffered greatly from it).
So if Argentina's recurrent crises are a gap-stop to prevent bad players from entering and only allowing the truly good quality makers to survive, that is perversely a good thing.
@94
Sep 25th, 2014 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I think I have revealed enough. I don't think my knowledge should be surprising considering I have been to wineries since I was 7 years old on school trips, and you learn about the industry in high-school. And then I can on my own take a bus to the winery route in the 1ra Zona. Add to that my assiduous studying on my own... and slowly I fretted a path to meet people and attend tastings. ”
None of this makes you an expert or even possess a basic knowledge of wine or winemaking. You insult your fellow Argentines. I sat with an Argentine winemaker at his winery in Mendoza and he had spent 7 years at university learning his trade and on a practical level at the winery.
tranny boi stop googling and change your dress. Better yet......experience something......ANYTHING. Without experience......life is meaningless.
Sep 25th, 2014 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Amusing that our little troll cannot name a single decent bottling of Peruvian wine... That's because there is none. They make some better quality Pisco than my homeland, although the range of overall quality varies due to lax requirements. They also brew very good beer.
Sep 25th, 2014 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0From personal experience, the typical officers mess of the Peruvian Navy, offers varietals from the Ica Valley, along with a few standbys from France.
I love a good IPA....and wine now and then. Definitely an IPA.
Sep 25th, 2014 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#96
Sep 26th, 2014 - 04:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ah little troll, I just wanted to say good night, make sure you've taken your bath and had your supper. Now go put on your Teletubbies pajamas and tuck yourself into your Buzz Lightyear sleeping bag, because one of two nightmares may happen:
1. Some nasty Chilean gypsies are going to steal your precious dog eared dictionary...
OR
2. The incredible Argentine supermodel, Valeria Mazza, is going to crawl into your sleeping bag, dressed in something from Victoria's Secret and is going to shove a new iPhone 6 where the sun doesn't shine...
Sweet dreams!
Yawn, at the nod of the day BA has cut flights to BA because no one wants to do business with Argentina, they don't have money to buy our products, they don't produce things we want. Even with more Argentines coming to Europe to escape from Argentinas coming problems, they mostly come to fill low paid positions and cannot afford to regularly home.
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