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Falklands/Malvinas: Cristina Fernandez demands dialogue at UN and blasts Security Council

Thursday, September 25th 2014 - 03:17 UTC
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President Cristina Fernández addressing on Wednesday the United Nations General Assembly said Argentina, in the context of a complex world situation, has become a triple leading case, (vulture funds, terrorism) and one referred to 'the use of force and territorial integrity', more specifically the pending dispute with the United Kingdom over the Falklands/Malvinas. Read full article

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  • Nostrum of NostrolL

    My favorite words: Demand and blast.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 03:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • La Patria

    My favourite adjectives, which aptly describe Cristina:
    Over-demanding and blasted

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 03:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Iron Man

    Phew, where to begin? Firstly, the direct quotes attributed to her are gibberish. Either they are lost in translation or I suspect the audience would have been searching for something on another channel. Secondly, is she really saying that the vote of say Iceland should be the same as say the U.S.? Thirdly, does she not understand that 'veto' means forbid rather than compel? I thought lawyers had to learn Latin?

    On a positive note, it does seem she has finally twigged that the UN is simply a talking shop. It's only taken her the best part of 15 years.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 04:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • La Patria

    “Ivory Coast, Ghana, Kenya, Egypt, Uganda, Argentina, Bahrain, or the Arab Emirates”

    You're more likely to call the Ghostbusters than the above countries if you need some help. Corruption and ineptitude of their leaders is what they have most in common.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 04:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    CFK appears to have forgotten that the UK was willing to sit down and talk with Argentina less than 2 years ago but it was ARGENTINA that ran away and refused to talk.

    The WHOLE world saw just how dedicated Argentina really is to talking to the UK regarding the Falklands, and that is NOT AT ALL.

    Argentina...all talk...no action...no hope...no future.

    I wonder why the Falkland Islanders want nothing to do with them?

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 05:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BOTINHO

    Imagine sitting in your seat, in your three-piece suit uncomfortably, at the United Nations General Assembly, listening to a female deadbeat, lecturing you on morality, without bursting out laughing. How do they keep a straight face ?.

    It is as though a renter of your home or apto. quits paying, refuses to leave until evicted, and then goes to the UN to lecture you and the world. What a sad, sad, tale of woe. And the Falkland Islands brought up too. My, my. Never have I heard of such a sad tale of pathos. Not even in the weekly novella.

    Is she perhaps referring in her stretch of a speech to ISIS in Syria ? Perhaps as she is running out of supporters ( Germany being the latest ) she could fly there in her spandex outfit and bond with the ISIS faithful. They would love that.

    “ I feel your pain. ” Yes, they would have so much in common to talk about as the drones, tomahawks missiles, and jets fly overhead.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 06:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    What a plonker!

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 06:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    The politics of reform. At home if she does not get her way, she reforms (replaces the judges) the courts or creates government yes bodies, until she gets her way.

    She seems to think that she can do the same to International Institutions, unfortunately for her, that's all she can do, think or in her case demand and garner scant support from so called, like democratic leaders.

    If she can not work within the rules, the answers simple, leave!

    She and they take, take, take, they do not contribute. They won't be missed.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 06:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    “And this happens because Argentina is not part of the Security Council”

    Was Argentina not on the SC when Mr T was in London and up until when Assad gassed his people? If being on the SC made no difference then what is the problem with not being on it? Argentina with Kirchner in charge will not be taken seriously either on it or off it.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 06:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    In America no one listens to losers. Argentina - big loser!

    Still, $ were salted away and that empty suitcase was refilled on 5th Avenue.

    16 Pesos hanging on the wall...

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    How many times do they need telling, no talks without the inclusion and consent of the Falkland Islanders.

    Does she really think the UN is going to ignore its own rules? Because that is what they are asking them to do.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 07:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Buzzsaw

    I have often wondered why there isn't a more robust response from the UK, when she goes off on one. I imagine, behind the scenes, the real business is done, the UK know the people/countries that count and that have our backs.
    They all know she is emotionally incontinent like a petulant teenager, a drama Queen who craves the worlds attention. Even her SA brothers can't hold their tongues about how they really feel about her from time to time.

    ...a claim of sovereignty and a claim from this very Assembly for the UK to sit down with Argentina to discuss the sovereignty question of the Malvinas Islands”...really which resolution was that, I know one that notes the existence of a dispute, but that is regarding the granting of independence to a colonised people or countries.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    ”Argentina, in the context of a complex world situation, has become a triple leading case, (vulture funds, terrorism) and one referred to 'the use of force and territorial integrity', more specifically the pending dispute with the United Kingdom over the Falklands/Malvinas.“

    Pending dispute???

    ”A triple leading case” thats her way of saying that argentina is a three time loser. To lose once is unfortunate, but to lose three times; well only fools do that!
    There must have been lots of empty chairs in the GA during that tirade.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    The UK Gov probably thinks that responding to their ludicrous claim is tantamount to acknowledging it.

    Far better to ignore them them than even dignify it with a response.

    Knowing they are impotent to do anything about it, must wind them up something chronic.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Let's make no mistake. Argieland is 'leading' latam into disaster. When has argieland proposed 'solutions' to world problems that might cost argieland? How about an international body that monitors governments and removes those that do not meet agreed criteria? How about a fully-armed international body that destroys countries that start wars? How about an international body that seizes countries that make no attempt to pay their debts? How about an international body that arrests corrupt 'leaders', tries them and then imprisons them? Trouble is that argieland and its 'government' would no longer exist.

    All her words have one purpose. Trying to get argieland out of the cesspit she has dug for it. Argieland part of the Security Council? You don't install a 'pest' as part of rodent control.

    On many occasions, we have set out the facts on here. Why would the UK sit down with a corrupt, criminal, mendacious thief? It's not going to happen.

    All the UK has to do is wait. Argieland will destroy itself. Sooner the better!

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    How many wars and coalitions against terrorists and they are still there, more powerful, more angry and combative instead of bringing peaceful solutions to those countries??

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    I wasn't aware that we had a pending dispute with Argentina, as far as we are concerned all matters were settled when the Islanders made a choice. We cannot tell the Falkland Islanders what they should and shouldn't do any more than we can tell Scotland what they should choose to do.

    The UK has shown the world that we are have long since left our colonial past behind and there are few that can match us democratically.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    She is taking Chavez's place, the crazy claudillo ranting and raving about nonsense.
    I guess there's got to be one all the time and they've passed the mantle to her.
    Anyhoo territorial integrity is the feeblest claim they could make about the Falklands. Doesn't she realize this?
    It must be really nice to be delusional and never have anyone call you on it.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    How do you negotiate with a group who's stated objective is and has always been, that there is only one way for you to live, under Shariah Law.

    Where flogging, execution and slavery of women is the norm.

    You have two simple choices, surrender and live under that medieval barbaric system that it is, or fight it.

    You make your choice, I'll make mine. That's the democratic way. You won't get that under Shariah. Their choices are more stark and simpler, live our way or die.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    16 malen

    You're right. Peace is the answer. We'll all club together and buy you a flight to Syria. You can sit down with a nice cup of tea and a bacon butty and bring those horrid men from ISIS to their senses with your sound logical reasoning. You could even ask them for help recovering your blessed Malvinas.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Z-ville

    Is it just me or did she forget that there is a population living on those islands...?

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Does anybody think that “malen” is in fact TMBOA?

    They are so alike it's weird.

    Well, another rant, rave, demand, etc. session over for good if we are lucky, won’t TMBOA be out of office this time next year, mas o menos?

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/24/us-argentina-debt-idUSKCN0HJ1TM20140924?rpc=401

    Fact is the rest of the world is bored of CFK's little rants and much of the press didn't even 'mention the Falklands.' Reuters headline was, 'Hold Out Funds Terrorists' and 'Germany Hostile.'

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @16
    Yes it would be wonderful if you would go to Syria and Iraq and tell the “ naughty boys of ISIS to lay down their arms and be democratic” You live in cloud cuckoo land, you must be a lazy Argie.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    Talking of Syria - has anyone watched the hour long documentary produced by the Islamic State? It is worth watching simply because it is fascinating.

    It's been banned by quite a few sites as “propaganda” - which is what it is. However watching it and running off to fight jihad would be akin to watching Trainspotting and running off to shoot up some heroin.

    Recommended simply because it is bonkers and fits in with the “know your enemy” mantra.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    I became disorientated ( the UN did too) with the words bouncing back and forth like verbal table-tennis... optimism, pessimism, realism...and back again.
    It has taken a hundred years to culminate those thoughts. God knows what the representative paperwork is like. The UN shredder must be working overtime.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Timmerman is a prize wally.

    He apparently thinks that ISIS/ ISIL is am emerging democracy and you do not encourage them by bombing them.

    What a wucking fanker.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    The American president spoke to a packed house,
    Great words, but also some interesting points,
    1, we can no longer allow one country to invade or terrorise another
    2, big countries cannot and will not be allowed to bully the little guy in the 21st century.

    Then the deranged puppet steps up,
    CFK
    1, We must fight, this Assembly
    2, must demand devolution of the powers it has delegated
    3, the Assembly must request permission
    4, if any other member belongs to the family. We must rescue
    5, we demand the Falklands,
    The world is in turmoil over ISIS, and this twit twat demands
    Its about time the UN was removed before the likes of CFK and her deranged cohorts take over the place.

    Gentlemen, we reap what we sow, we deserve what we get,
    p/a
    Apparently David spoke to an almost empty house, or that what I saw,

    we say remove this deranged lunatic before she arranges our demise and takes us with her to hell.

    just my burning thought.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    28 Briton

    They were only listening to her because she was booked in as the “after dinner” speaker.

    That's what you get at the UN, a meal and a show.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Philippe

    NOTED:
    That Chief of Failed-State Argentina demands “dialogue*” about British
    Falkland Islands sovereignty, and that at the same time, insults Five Permanent
    Members of United Nations Security Council.

    Philippe

    * “Dialogue” in Argentinian slang means ANNEXATION

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    30 Philippe

    She can demand all she likes, it still won't make a blind bit of difference. It's just the rantings of a jumped up, self important little brat.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    She came, she spoke, she left and no one paid a blind bit of notice, again.

    She will get a better reception at the next annual C24 road show, it's stuffed full of her equals.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @27
    Did Tinpotman suggest a solution to the ISIS problem? No didn't think so. These wankers get up on the World stage and spout all sorts of rubbish without actually coming up with a solution. Christ these so called politicions in Latam are barking mad.

    Sep 25th, 2014 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cornelius

    Somebody from JP Morgan made a comment today about her as the wicked which, they think of her as a derange woman.

    Sep 26th, 2014 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • FI_Frost

    Reported in various RG papers that the grand hall was empty, those in attandence were mostly disengaged not getting any translation; the comments sections were highly entertaining reads; an international embarrassment been the main theme.

    Sep 26th, 2014 - 08:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Perhaps she is after the Nobel idiot prize...lol

    Sep 26th, 2014 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GALlamosa

    Christina Fernandez can bog off.

    Sep 26th, 2014 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JohnN

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    Sep 26th, 2014 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    For those of you that do speak spanish , here is the speech .
    Total and utter bollocks as usual and full of historical and factual inaccuracies .
    http://islasmalvinasargentinas.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/cristina-discurso-en-el-comite-de.html

    Sep 26th, 2014 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Buzzsaw

    @39
    That link is to her speech at the decolonisation committee in 2013, her one to the UN had very little of substance in it, just 'poor little Argentina, every body wants us to fail, it's not our fault, demand, demand, best buddies with the pope that's why I am on the IS hit list, etc, etc

    Sep 26th, 2014 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    My mistake . Cannot find wednesdays anywhere .Then again , they all sound the same anyway .

    Sep 26th, 2014 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rick from Maryland

    Well... I for one would support Argie sitting in for the US for a year... So long as Argie contributes as much $$ to the UN as does the US.

    One Year. Paid up-front of course..... That would be about 600,000,000 US dollars. Not counting all the other contributions the US provides.

    According to various sources, the list of UN member contributions does not include Argentina... apparently they are living on the public dole so to speak.

    By the way... how much has Argentina contributed to the Ebola eradication campaign? Zero?

    And she wants a seat at the grown-ups table?

    Sep 26th, 2014 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @16. And the latam solution is.....? Let's sit down with a terrorist country and talk about how it let some terrorists into our country and kill people. Perhaps we could sell you some soy. We'll be expecting you to identify those of your citizens responsible. Perhaps you have some armaments we could buy. If you could lend us the money.

    It seems that argieland is also a terrorist country!

    Sep 26th, 2014 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    @16 Malen : If you are in such a forgiving frame of mind , why don't you petition your government to release all the military who are being held as political prisoners for supposed crimes committed during the 70's ?

    Sep 27th, 2014 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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