The United Nations Human Rights Council meeting in Geneva on Friday adopted an Argentine-fueled resolution which condemns the so called 'holdouts' or “vulture funds”, currently in a legal dispute against the country. Read full article
The 5 nations that voted against the initiative argued that the complaint has to be issued in an international credit organization and not the Human Rights Council. True!
Concerntrate on what you were set up to deal with. Detention without arrest! torture! slavery! Rape as a method of war! people trafficking! and the hundreds of other things that come before whether or not someone being allowed to break a debt contract, is a breach of their human rights.
CULTURAL HUMAN RIGHTS? SOCIAL HUMAN RIGHTS? WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY? YOU THINK A SLAVE WORRIES ABOUT WHETHER IS CULTURE IS BEING RESPECTED? YOU THINK HE WORRIES IF ALL SLAVES ARE BEING ABUSED EQUALLY. Your a bunch of fucking idiots!
What the hell are you? If you care about it so much about the subject, go work in your local small claims court!!!
Jesus Christ!
What a criminal waste of OUR time, money and resources!
Ridiculous stunts like this cheapen the bodies of the Organizations. I can not understand why the USA is still part of the UN. It is a joke and a costly joke at that.
I hope the next Prez just stops funding it.
Pathetic straw clutching Argentina and Twitman again!
Twitman - THIS is the forum you should be taking your Islands Dispute to!
You know - those 3000 people whose elected representatives are prepared to meet with you - the ones you are terrified of and run away from rather than sit down and talk with them.
Oh you and Argentina are soooooooooooooooo brave!
Let me break this down real simple for you, rotting roadkill. You willingly entered into an agreement which you had solicited. You swore and set your seal to the same. You have repudiated your obligations thereunder. Accordingly, you are adjudged to be without honor.
All this would not be a problem ( human rights etc ) if Argentina had not borrowed money that it could not pay back. What about the human rights of the people that are owed vast amounts of money because of the shit countries that are in LATAM.
Although the UN has descended to the point where it has no more relevance than the pre-WW2 League of Nations, argieland MUST be expelled. It's an evil little place intent on evading all laws. No better than nazi Germany. Possibly worse. Everyone needs to contact their democratic representatives to demand that argieland be expelled from the world community. Not just the UN, the whole world community. They can talk to, and agree with, themselves. Anyone that has any contact with them can also be expelled. The world is a community that doesn't need an asocial criminal in its midst!
yb a little digression here but on human rights. I bet you did not know this is becoming a huge crime in BsAs city. Organ theft. They have this potent drug and they just bump you thus drugging you. If you pass out and are alone.......you will wake up without a kidney....sometimes in a hospital......sometimes not so lucky. Organ theft....they steal everything in Argentina.
This just goes to show how useful/less the UN has become in the last 25 years. I agree with the poster who said ....let the top 5 financial (over 51%)supporters pull out, kick the UN of of the US and have them open shop in Caracas. Let these 3rd world nothings shop elsewhere rather than 5th avenue. And while we are at it......kick the OAS out of DC.
15. I think there's growing support in DC to stop paying our exorbitant UN dues. Without the USA support it would die.
We have an Embassy in every country we need to so why bother with this do-nothing organization run by un-elected lifelong bureaucrats with no real power that only want to blame us for everything and also pay for everything.
Their catering and hospitality bill alone, would supply the annual budget for a small democratic country. For every ass that sits on a seat in the chamber, there's a thousand others kissing it!
“The vulture funds will not stop unless we stop them ourselves,” Argentina’s Foreign Minister Hector Timerman told the council ahead of the vote.
“The billions that these vulture funds grab in countries in the south ... lead to school closures, hospitals without medicines, families searching for food in dumpsters, to misery, political instability, the fall of governments, hatred, insecurity and violence,” he said.
@13 I remember when I was on Brazil I was warned that there were people who had a drug just like that you described which puts people to sleep and kidnapped them never to be seen again. The drug is called Burundanga. I have no idea how much of it is truth and how much is hyperbole.
The UN was never going to work unless it was a global government, which some people see as tyranny. Of course for that to happen there either every world power needs to implode and/or be hijacked by ideologue burocrats like the EU. But at least the UN isn't a puppet organization of the USA and friends.
Did anyone else read that they let that slimy thief free because it was a humans rights violation. What about the Canadians human rights? Then they brings a financial matter like refusing to pay loans back to the UN Human Rights Council.........do they even know WTF human rights are? This is going so far away from where it all began.......in Germany........extermination the Jews. Now demanding that loans be repaid is a HR violation.....or arresting someone for attempting robbery and murder is a HR violation.
Argentina needs to suffer from international condemnation and suffer severely in order to once and for all learn a lesson and they way of the world.
The Girl Scouts reported today that they have voted unanimously in favor of extending their cookie sale one more day in Argentina to accommodate those that attended the human rights meeting. They requested that the Boy Scouts do the same. The Boy Scouts responded by saying that they don't sell cookies. Meanwhile AARP reported that their client base continues to age and the procrastinators society has decided to postpone their next meeting.
Now isn't Russian the country who jailed the Pussycat Riot for protesting against Putrid....errrrrrrr......I mean Putin.......and Veneztina the country who jailed the party leader for criticizing Bus Drivers? Nice group of human rights protectors.
Oh well Argentina is now changing laws on how people with live theirreveryday live. I wonder is they will get enough money to hand out the new gray uniforms and bowl cut everyone's head.
Ditto #33 aussiesunshinee.
The pro-vulture trolls cannot understand how the world works and does not go according to their spurious interests. So they howl and cry. The UN votes in support of Argentina and against the vultures, not once but twice!! Isn't it neat?
Paul Singer and company are going to regret to have gone on the offensive on Cristina, where they found a government that does not kneel in front of them and their rotten allies. They now have been several months of headlines, and they smell worse with each passing day. The world is waking up to what they do and does not want them around anymore. Only a few powerful countries, including the US and the UK still try to protect the pirates with weak technical arguments. The world is indeed changing and that's great news indeed.
Do the tr9olls know the differences between a report and court enforcible laws of nations? I think not.....even their own laws are unenforcible. Bumbles the inept motorbike thief still walks free.
I think they have visions of UN G men kicking down the doors to the NML offices or his honours chambers, armed with fists full of warrants and trash bags to carry off the documents in.
Any UN beuarocrat turning up sticking their nose where it does not belong, is going to be told to ferk off and take his retinue of stenographers, interperators and valets with him!
For heaven's sake! What's all that babbling? Vulture advocates are unable to come up with a single coherent argument, and the world keeps walking in a different direction.
I got news for you. Argentina will pay the vultures after Dec. 31 and after negotiating conditions similar to the other 92 per cent of creditors. Period.
Argentina is culturally incapable of abiding by contract law. The government is so accustomed to 'persuading' the judiciary at home, they are blind, frustrated and incompetent when dealing internationally.
Don't ask me to prove it. The facts are available for all to see.
I hardly support the Elliot groups tactics but I do agree and support the law, something foreign to Argentine's. But I hate that term vultures. But if they are in fact vultures, chronic could not have coined a better term for Argentina......rotten road kill. Every time Argentina references vulture funds....they are in fact calling themselves dead road kill.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThe 5 nations that voted against the initiative argued that the complaint has to be issued in an international credit organization and not the Human Rights Council. True!
Sep 27th, 2014 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Concerntrate on what you were set up to deal with. Detention without arrest! torture! slavery! Rape as a method of war! people trafficking! and the hundreds of other things that come before whether or not someone being allowed to break a debt contract, is a breach of their human rights.
Sep 27th, 2014 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0CULTURAL HUMAN RIGHTS? SOCIAL HUMAN RIGHTS? WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY? YOU THINK A SLAVE WORRIES ABOUT WHETHER IS CULTURE IS BEING RESPECTED? YOU THINK HE WORRIES IF ALL SLAVES ARE BEING ABUSED EQUALLY. Your a bunch of fucking idiots!
What the hell are you? If you care about it so much about the subject, go work in your local small claims court!!!
Jesus Christ!
What a criminal waste of OUR time, money and resources!
Ridiculous stunts like this cheapen the bodies of the Organizations. I can not understand why the USA is still part of the UN. It is a joke and a costly joke at that.
Sep 27th, 2014 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0I hope the next Prez just stops funding it.
5% of our GDP for what?
Sep 27th, 2014 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0This!
I somehow doubt this is what was intended for.
Pathetic straw clutching Argentina and Twitman again!
Sep 27th, 2014 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Twitman - THIS is the forum you should be taking your Islands Dispute to!
You know - those 3000 people whose elected representatives are prepared to meet with you - the ones you are terrified of and run away from rather than sit down and talk with them.
Oh you and Argentina are soooooooooooooooo brave!
Let me break this down real simple for you, rotting roadkill. You willingly entered into an agreement which you had solicited. You swore and set your seal to the same. You have repudiated your obligations thereunder. Accordingly, you are adjudged to be without honor.
Sep 27th, 2014 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When there is voting South America wins every time. Only North America and Europe do not vote with us.
Sep 27th, 2014 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0North America and Europe try to maintain the Status Quo.
You win nothing.
Sep 27th, 2014 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is the UNHCR you plank.
Where did you arrange for your mortgage?
MacDonalds!!!
What's MacDonalds?
Sep 27th, 2014 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Russia Russia Russia
Imortal Imortal Imortal
All this would not be a problem ( human rights etc ) if Argentina had not borrowed money that it could not pay back. What about the human rights of the people that are owed vast amounts of money because of the shit countries that are in LATAM.
Sep 27th, 2014 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are not people. Are speculators and for they all punishment is little!
Sep 27th, 2014 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0WJcrIy8F8&index=3&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A
Although the UN has descended to the point where it has no more relevance than the pre-WW2 League of Nations, argieland MUST be expelled. It's an evil little place intent on evading all laws. No better than nazi Germany. Possibly worse. Everyone needs to contact their democratic representatives to demand that argieland be expelled from the world community. Not just the UN, the whole world community. They can talk to, and agree with, themselves. Anyone that has any contact with them can also be expelled. The world is a community that doesn't need an asocial criminal in its midst!
Sep 27th, 2014 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#3
Sep 27th, 2014 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yb a little digression here but on human rights. I bet you did not know this is becoming a huge crime in BsAs city. Organ theft. They have this potent drug and they just bump you thus drugging you. If you pass out and are alone.......you will wake up without a kidney....sometimes in a hospital......sometimes not so lucky. Organ theft....they steal everything in Argentina.
Timmerman, you prize k**bend, Stop showboating with a bunch of self important, meaningless, out of touch cronies and just pay what you owe...
Sep 27th, 2014 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Simple.
and what is the The United Nations Human Rights Council doing , allowing itself to be dragged into this?
WTF has Human Rights got to do with owing money, one country to another?
Idiots, the lot of them.
This just goes to show how useful/less the UN has become in the last 25 years. I agree with the poster who said ....let the top 5 financial (over 51%)supporters pull out, kick the UN of of the US and have them open shop in Caracas. Let these 3rd world nothings shop elsewhere rather than 5th avenue. And while we are at it......kick the OAS out of DC.
Sep 27th, 2014 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Я согласен. Мой мир ваш, нет!
Sep 27th, 2014 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Captain, your ship is stuck!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de2Im4rh948&index=6&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A
The UK is going to the IMF, FIFA and the AAA for authorisation to bomb ISIL in Syria.
Sep 27th, 2014 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When asked why they were going to these bodies, Cameron replied, because Argentina as all the available slots booked at Woolworths.
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Sep 27th, 2014 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 015. I think there's growing support in DC to stop paying our exorbitant UN dues. Without the USA support it would die.
Sep 27th, 2014 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We have an Embassy in every country we need to so why bother with this do-nothing organization run by un-elected lifelong bureaucrats with no real power that only want to blame us for everything and also pay for everything.
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Sep 27th, 2014 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Their catering and hospitality bill alone, would supply the annual budget for a small democratic country. For every ass that sits on a seat in the chamber, there's a thousand others kissing it!
Sep 27th, 2014 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another irrelevant sideshow as Argentina tries to shift the blame and delay the inevitable consequences...
Sep 27th, 2014 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The vulture funds will not stop unless we stop them ourselves,” Argentina’s Foreign Minister Hector Timerman told the council ahead of the vote.
Sep 27th, 2014 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The billions that these vulture funds grab in countries in the south ... lead to school closures, hospitals without medicines, families searching for food in dumpsters, to misery, political instability, the fall of governments, hatred, insecurity and violence,” he said.
And how is a UN Human Rights Committee, going to help WE do anything about a decision made in an American Court of law?
Sep 27th, 2014 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why doesn't Brazil or Venezuela or Cuba lend money to Argentina?
Sep 27th, 2014 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I expect they would only glad to, but you know the Argentine?
Sep 27th, 2014 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Too proud to ask (-:)@
@13 I remember when I was on Brazil I was warned that there were people who had a drug just like that you described which puts people to sleep and kidnapped them never to be seen again. The drug is called Burundanga. I have no idea how much of it is truth and how much is hyperbole.
Sep 27th, 2014 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UN was never going to work unless it was a global government, which some people see as tyranny. Of course for that to happen there either every world power needs to implode and/or be hijacked by ideologue burocrats like the EU. But at least the UN isn't a puppet organization of the USA and friends.
Just watched France 24 conduct an interview with the Commissioner UNHCR.
Sep 28th, 2014 - 07:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Covered every topic involving human rights, except this one. Nigeria, Syria, Yemen, Gazza all discussed, but not this rubbish.
You think the ground rules were laid down before the interview started?
Did anyone else read that they let that slimy thief free because it was a humans rights violation. What about the Canadians human rights? Then they brings a financial matter like refusing to pay loans back to the UN Human Rights Council.........do they even know WTF human rights are? This is going so far away from where it all began.......in Germany........extermination the Jews. Now demanding that loans be repaid is a HR violation.....or arresting someone for attempting robbery and murder is a HR violation.
Sep 28th, 2014 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina needs to suffer from international condemnation and suffer severely in order to once and for all learn a lesson and they way of the world.
The Girl Scouts reported today that they have voted unanimously in favor of extending their cookie sale one more day in Argentina to accommodate those that attended the human rights meeting. They requested that the Boy Scouts do the same. The Boy Scouts responded by saying that they don't sell cookies. Meanwhile AARP reported that their client base continues to age and the procrastinators society has decided to postpone their next meeting.
Sep 28th, 2014 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The resolution was tabled by Argentina along with Russia, Brazil, Venezuela and Algeria.
Sep 28th, 2014 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a lovely bunch!
None of these would you take home to meet your parents. IF you know what I mean.
Now isn't Russian the country who jailed the Pussycat Riot for protesting against Putrid....errrrrrrr......I mean Putin.......and Veneztina the country who jailed the party leader for criticizing Bus Drivers? Nice group of human rights protectors.
Sep 28th, 2014 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh well Argentina is now changing laws on how people with live theirreveryday live. I wonder is they will get enough money to hand out the new gray uniforms and bowl cut everyone's head.
OOHHHH!! IT HURTS WHEN THE UNITED NATIONS VOTE IN FAVOUR OF
Sep 29th, 2014 - 01:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0ARGENTINA!!! DOESN´T IT TROLLS!!! WELL LUMP IT!! LOL LOL
Ditto #33 aussiesunshinee.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 05:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0The pro-vulture trolls cannot understand how the world works and does not go according to their spurious interests. So they howl and cry. The UN votes in support of Argentina and against the vultures, not once but twice!! Isn't it neat?
Paul Singer and company are going to regret to have gone on the offensive on Cristina, where they found a government that does not kneel in front of them and their rotten allies. They now have been several months of headlines, and they smell worse with each passing day. The world is waking up to what they do and does not want them around anymore. Only a few powerful countries, including the US and the UK still try to protect the pirates with weak technical arguments. The world is indeed changing and that's great news indeed.
It hurts when the UN votes in favour of Argentina.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 07:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0No it doesn't, why should it?
The vote means nothing. It means that some UN bureaucrat is going to prepare yet another useless report, that will achieve nothing.
These committees are talking shops, nothing else and as usual nothing will get done.
Why? because they have no authority.
How many times has the C24 voted to support the numb nuts, lost count.
What has that achieved?
Sweet FA. Same as this.
Do the tr9olls know the differences between a report and court enforcible laws of nations? I think not.....even their own laws are unenforcible. Bumbles the inept motorbike thief still walks free.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think they have visions of UN G men kicking down the doors to the NML offices or his honours chambers, armed with fists full of warrants and trash bags to carry off the documents in.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Any UN beuarocrat turning up sticking their nose where it does not belong, is going to be told to ferk off and take his retinue of stenographers, interperators and valets with him!
RC I think the UN will investigate in the same manner that tranny boi tobi absorbs the world.......via google.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@36
Sep 29th, 2014 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bumbles the inept motorbike thief still walks free.
That's because he's just a government employee doing his job...
Doesn't that violet the human rights of that tourist? I think Canada needs to take this extraordinary injustice to the UN...the Hague!!!
Sep 29th, 2014 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina have been protecting human right for a long time, you can trace it back as far as 1945.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you do not believe me, ask Mengele or Eichmann.
For heaven's sake! What's all that babbling? Vulture advocates are unable to come up with a single coherent argument, and the world keeps walking in a different direction.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I got news for you. Argentina will pay the vultures after Dec. 31 and after negotiating conditions similar to the other 92 per cent of creditors. Period.
Your going to be held in contempt. Simple.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Single coherent argument
Sep 29th, 2014 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Er, Simple contract law, Argentina borrowed at the terms and conditions they wrote for gosh sakes abide by them.
Argentina is culturally incapable of abiding by contract law. The government is so accustomed to 'persuading' the judiciary at home, they are blind, frustrated and incompetent when dealing internationally.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't ask me to prove it. The facts are available for all to see.
#43
Sep 30th, 2014 - 12:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just watch.
46. I am still trying to figure out if you are stupid or delusional.
Sep 30th, 2014 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your idiotic posts remind me of someone...
I hardly support the Elliot groups tactics but I do agree and support the law, something foreign to Argentine's. But I hate that term vultures. But if they are in fact vultures, chronic could not have coined a better term for Argentina......rotten road kill. Every time Argentina references vulture funds....they are in fact calling themselves dead road kill.
Sep 30th, 2014 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0US Embassy just put out a warning statement saying Be careful in BA.
Sep 30th, 2014 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Translation: Its falling apart, stay away.
I saw that and it disappoints me because of family connections. Someone really needs to accelerate her grave.
Sep 30th, 2014 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The last time I remember them issuing a statement like that was when there was a string of bombs put in banks.
Sep 30th, 2014 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It must be much worse than what is reported on in the papers.
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