The Chilean community in the Falkland Islands celebrated their country’s independence day on Thursday 18 September with a reception hosted by H E the Governor Colin Roberts at Government House, and a party at the Narrows Bar. Read full article
”In an official release from the Foreign Affairs ministry, Muñoz stated the pleasure of having received former senator Filmus at his office, and to whom he reiterated “Chile's support for Argentina's sovereign rights over the Malvinas, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands and adjoining maritime spaces”.
Muñoz added that this is the traditional position of Chile and president Michelle Bachelet, which “Chile has had the satisfaction of supporting at the United Nations Decolonization Committee, which calls for negotiations between Argentina and the United Kingdom”.
@7
” which calls for negotiations between Argentina and the United Kingdom”.
But Argentina will not talk because unlike with the 1960s/1970s/1980s, Argentina completely disregards the interests of the Falkland Islanders by refusing to attend meetings with the islanders present.
No Islanders at talk-no talks.
(Please read 2065 very carefully).
It is not in the interests of the Falkland Islanders to be excluded from talks.
Therefore to satisfy 2065 which stipulates that the interests of the population must be taken into account, talks cannot take place without the Islanders being present, as the UK government recognises the Falkland Island Government as the body that runs the Islands, such as the UK accepts the Welsh and Scottish parliaments.
Resolution 2065 is irrelevant killed off by the events of 1982 and 4 ICJ Advisory Opinions and 1 ICJ Judgment made between 1971 and 2010 that confirm or state, 'that the right to self-determination is applicable to ALL NSGTs.'
Hence Ban Ki-Moon's words, 'I don't think Security Council Members (UK) are in breach of ANY 'relevant' UN resolutions.'
The Chileans like the Brazilians are laughing behind the backs of Argentinean politicians.
The main trouble with CFK is this,
What she really wants is to suspend all UN resolutions and agreements
And acts, until she gets what she wants to suit herself,
Then have the whole lot re-instated and demand we all follow the rules….
Now I say!! AND I SAY IT LOUD,,what the hell is wrong with 300 Chilians getting together with the rest of the islanders AND HAVING A BLOODY BARBECUE!!!!
...somebody has got to eat all those sheeeeeeep!!!!
Despite the Chilean placating comments to Argentina, such as: of course those islands belong to you, yes, that nasty shopkeeper's daughter had no business sinking your cruiser, and yes, their should be a law against those little short Nepalese carrying those nasty long blades into combat...
The truth is, we're very pro Falkland Islands and very great flu for your kindness to our people there. ¡Viva Falklands Islands! Viva Chile!
Wow nothing gets the Argentineans more upset than when the Falkland Islanders make friends with someone.
Th Chilean government (like most) mouths platitudes to the Argentinean government. The fact is, that 10% of the people living in the Islands are Chilean and instead being seen as a threat, they are friends.
Argentina wants the islands so badly and yet more and more each year the Islanders want nothing to do with Argentina. Chile's got what Argentina wants.... a relationship with the Islanders.
Chile's got what Argentina wants.... a relationship with the Islanders.
And the Falklands spend a lot of their money with Chile (workers, supplies, and Lan Chile. Argentina are too stupid to want help with employing their people, and the Falkland Islander's money for services, goods etc etc, but I guess that's because being in debt is a successful economic objective in Argentina's eyes.
If Argentina had not been so evil, you may actually have been pretty close to running the islands by now, but as usual you messed it up just like everything you touch. So the chance has long gone, whatever you do now will get you nothing. The bogus claim is as much use as a chocolate tea pot.
@12. Who exactly are the 'bootlickers'? The Falklanders for holding a party or the Chileans for attending? It's a strange comment because I have no doubt the Castro female attends any British Government bash she can get an invite to. Does that make her a bootlicker? If the argie embassy holds an official bash, does it exclude British ministers and/or officials? Very discourteous when you're a guest in someone's country. You do realise that she has no right to be in the UK, don't you? She's here on sufferance. And we could decide at any moment not to suffer any longer. She's already stepped over the line a number of times. She's been very quiet for some time. Does she not want to 'go home'?
You have a narrow definition (in more than one sense) of the meaning of neighbour which, at least in English, is incorrect.
Not only can Chileans be neighbours of Falkland Islanders (as pointed out by #30) the Falkland Islands, a geographical/political entity can be described as being in the same neighbourhood as Chile, Argentina, etc. as their separation is much smaller than that of geographical/political entities on average. Thus Chile and the Falkland Islands are indeed neighbours (which does not require them to be next door).
While you may have a map (hardly surprising as images of Greater Argentina [sic] are plastered everywhere) you clearly don't have a clue.
Paulcedron - As many Chileans say - there is ONE problem between Chile and the Falklands - its the bit in the middle.
They are indeed our neighbours and friends - as are the people of Uruguay.
National Govts have public policies often for valid reasons- which the Islands understand and respect - because we know that at the same time those National Govts are happy to get on with practical matters like trade and relations- ie they have TWO Policies.
One keeps the mad lady quiet - the other suits their people and allows business to grow.
The Chilean National Flag flew high and proud over Stanley that day as a mark of respect to the Chilean people who are very much part of the Falklands community - and was filmed going up the pole on Chilean National TV..
Chileans like the Falklanders, in Punta Arenas the feelings are especially strong.
I only have disgust for our politicians who kiss the silicone arse of CFK...
Paulcedron- Do you really have to show us all how totally THICK you are every time you write? - Go back and slowly - one letter at a time for your little mind to understand - READ what I wrote about Govts!
I had the pleasure last week of visiting the Argentinian Ambassadors residence in Belgravia during London open house weekend. A most enjoyable experience. The hosts were so polite. Welcome to Argentina said a greeter as I crossed the threshold. There was an exhibition of photography on the first floor, I forget the photographer alas. Guests were also admitted into the holy of holies, her excellencies office. She did have a large number of Malvinas/Falklands related literature on her bookshelves, including Jimmy Burns outstanding The land which lost its heros Does she read English?
None of this has anything to do with Chilean/Falklands courtesies of course. Just like to share an experience with our regular readers.
From what I'm reading the islanders are more interested in being right with the Argentines, that we with them. Therefore, as hysterical maid, take to show their friends to see if they cause your neighbor jealous. Well they are wrong, we do not know anything about the islanders and not feel jealous of his alleged friendship with our neighbors at every opportunity that has presented the Argentina has made clear that the Malvinas issue is settled with UK and not with the usurpers. So keep dreaming that we will have good neighborly relations with you and continue the walk from the oil rigs, they will extract oil when pretending to know perfectly well that it will not be possible without the collaboration of the continent. We all know they are speculating with the change of government in Argentina to get back to oil deals, but that will not happen in this or any other government.
Turnip Paul 37 - Actually I travelled there many times direct from the islands by sea before we had an airport and still do travel there nowadays at times by air via Lan so am well aware of Uruguay,s location as a neighbour.
I do business there and have a good many Uruguayans as business colleagues and friends as well as knowing several of their elected deputies who have visited here.
You are such a twisted and bitter turnip!
Tortuga - Where do you get this fancifull idea from that no offshore oil can be developed off the Falklands without Argentina,s assistance?
We have oil exploration deals with Int Companies and a deepwater rig arrives Ma/April 2015 for exploratory drilling phase 2 in March/April 2015.
A simple fact.
Argentina has made clear that the Malvinas issue is settled with UK and not with the usurpers. So keep dreaming that we will have good neighborly relations with you and continue the walk from the oil rigs, they will extract oil when pretending to know perfectly well that it will not be possible without the collaboration of the continent. We all know they are speculating with the change of government in Argentina to get back to oil deals, but that will not happen in this or any other government.
Tortuga,
Surely you don't believe that.
The Falklanders will manage quite nicely, without Argentina's help.
I'm sure that your neighbours will jump at the chance to supply and service the Fslklands Oil industry.
They'll be chuckling up their sleeves when they think about Argentina stepping aside and allowing Brazil, Uruguay, or Chilé, to waltz in and take the easy money.
Meanwhile, Arg. that really needs the business, cuts off its nose, to spite it's face.
The Falklands are not as isolated as they once were.
If they need to, they will find a way to make it work.
It occurs to me, would these Chileans have voted in the recent referendum.
The one where of all the votes cast only 3 (votes) wanted not to be protected by Britain.
So presumably 99% of the Chileans who voted wanted the Falklands to remain British rather than colonized by Arentina.
I'm sure someone has the breakdown of the referendum and those eligable to vote.
But from memory the figures I've quoted are roughly accurate.
So much for the People of Chile siding with the Argentinian governments postion.
46 Zaathras - Yes there would some Chileans with full Falklands status who would thus be on the electoral role and voted in the Referendum along with th0se similar of USA-Aus-NZ.and even a few of Argentine nationality as well.
@48 & @20
Too true. How could an Argentine soldier with a gun be expected to cope with a determined little chap with a long sharp knife?
It's just not fair! I'm surprised they didn't take it to the UN!
Lol!
utter cowards.
They only invaded because they expected almost zero resistance. Whereas a squadron leader of the Harriers, when faced with massive numbers of enemy aircraft, described it as a 'target-rich' environment.
Ha! Totally different attitude to the fight.
True fact. I'll find the quote if you like.
:)
The difference between men and boys, indeed!
We will not share our oil from the islands, because if it were that would run behind you for a portion. We have under our soil more oil than we can consume in 300 years, so we will not go for a portion of our oil from the islands, we will go around the oil. You can never remove it and know it. Need at least 1,000 workers which should give you all kinds of amenities that have not, well if you happen to put into operation a well, we will cut off access to the continent and its Chilean residents return home by Saint Helena and from there one God know where to return ..
“Chileans inviting their neighbours to help celebrate their national day.”
chile and the islets are not neigbours.
don´t you have a map there?
no?
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44 Tortuga Island (#)
Chileans are the Islanders as neighbors, as we Argentines are from Easter Island .. !! LOL
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Not sure who really needs a map... because when I look at the map I can directly recognize Falklanders as direct neighbours, since we have gained direct Access to the Atlantic Ocean at 2 Points (Cap Hoorn, Isla Nueva and Punta Dungeness).
If the planet would be flat, you could draw a parallel line and even see the Falklands Islands from Chilean soil in Punta Dungeness.
”It occurs to me, would these Chileans have voted in the recent referendum.
The one where of all the votes cast only 3 (votes) wanted not to be protected by Britain.
So presumably 99% of the Chileans who voted wanted the Falklands to remain British rather than colonized by Arentina.”
This is correct and there are also more than 3 Argentines eligable to vote.
56 Anglotino (#)
Some uneducated idiots need to differentiate between a neighbour and a NEXT DOOR neighbour.
A house 10 doors away can be a neighbour.
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not only that... the most approximate point on Argentinian soil next to the Falklands Islands is not much nearer than the most approximate point to Chile. As indicated, Punta Dungeness, a Chilean outpost directly at the Atlantic Ocean needs to be defined as direct neighbour. If not, than Argentina by logic would neither qualify for this definition.
But here again... most Argentinian (not all) and logic are like water and oil. xD
imbeciles various:
again, you dumbasses should learn the definition of neighbouring countries.
A neighboring country is a country that is right next to another country.
países limítrofes in spanish.
probably you, pair of idiots think that the islets are neighbour of the whole world because they are a pair of rocks in the middle of the sea.
then you, nabos x1000, should learn the concept of maritime boundary.
once you have learnt all of this, you will realize that the islets only limit with argentina.
even more, that the islets are an integral part of argentina.
49
I thought only British Citizens were allowed to vote in the referendum....??
...wasn't only 1517 out of 2932 population, allowed to vote and all those had to be British Citizens....
...I doubt anyone from the USA was allowed to vote...they would have to voluntarily change their nationality to British from American unless they had been children and obtained dual nationality....
The US is disdainful of dual citizenship...it's one or the other, but not both for Americans born in the US....
...don't know about Chile and dual citizenship....
@59
No you don't have to have be a British Citizen to vote just be on the electoral role which you are automatically put on after 7, I think, years (could be wrong about how long you have to be in the Islands it may be less).
#58
Taking your somewhat histrionic reply to heart, I decided to check the boundaries of Argentina on Google earth. It appears that Chile's eastern boundary is actually on the straights of Magellan, on the S.Atlantic.
The use of the ENGLISH word neighbours would seem to be appropriate in this case. If the coastline of Argentina was continuous on the East coast then I may have been inclined to agree with you ....but it is NOT.
Neighbours in English usage is a looser term than you are implying.
A couple of serious qualifications from a Chilean citizen:
1. Dual citizenship is recognized as well as common in Chile.
2. Chile does have an Atlantic Coast which is recognized by Argentina.
#51. With what navy and with what airforce? With one of our frigates, one of our submarines and 4 of our F-16s and Argentina's forces are completely destroyed...
(you'll note I left the army out of this because it would be a bloodbath...)
I just love how Paul is telling native English speakers the definition of English terms. Seems to toally miss the point of having different terms for neighbourhood, neighbour and next door neighbour.
Seems we can differentiate between the different meanings but he, with his extremely limited abilities, is unable to.
Chile, Argentina, Uruguay and Brazil are all neighbours in the South Atlantic neighbourhood.
66 anglotine
what south atlantic neighbourhood are you talking about?
it seems you like the rest of the nabos don´t know the concept of continent.
it is SOUTH AMERICA, not the south atlantic blablabla, ignorants all of you.
Ilsen,
You are correct. Paul thinks that because he had deficient education and lacks sufficent intelligence that I am at his level. I can differentiate between a continent and a geographical area.
Paul
Just because shouting people down and calling them names gets you places in your life doesn't mean it will get you anywhere with me. You can call me all the names you want. It does not hide the fact that you are quite incapable of keeping up with the level that many people on here converse at.
Ranting and railing in post after post just devalues your input further.
I would say that Falkland Islands are part of a SOUTH ATLANTIC neighbourhood but I would not be comfortable in being correct in saying they are part of a SOUTH AMERICAN neighbourhood.
A neighbourhood is a shared geographical space based on a social convention and not delineated by any concrete rules but rather arbitary rules based on many different ideas.
Chile is Falkland Islands neighbour. So unfortunately is Argentina.
No use getting upset because the Falkland Islanders (no matter what names you call them) prefer dealing with Chile rather than Argentina.
How Argentina ever thinks it is going to gain sovereignty over the islets when no one there wants anything to do with them is beyond me. In 2014, nations are no longer arbitarily granted to new states by any international agreement without the say of the people involved.
Ones interpretation of a neighbour
1, the guy living on my left
2, the lady living on my right
3, the family opposite me.[cul de sac ]
……………………………………………….
Neighbourhood
Within walking distance of the local shop,
Providing you have one..lol
South America is just that, the south American mainland,
The south Atlantic on the other hand would be in the south Atlantic,
Depending on where you start the south from,
But near the bottom of the south Atlantic sits the British Falklands islands.
That are not neighbours of the mainland, but islands 300 odd miles of the coast..
lolol
.just my watery opinion..
@72 & @73
Both very, very clear explanations.
Unfortunately still way above the comprehension level of paul-carrion.
Never mind. You tried. Which is honourable and decent.
Two words I could never use about potty-mouth paulie.
Soon the lights will be going out across Argentina. I feel a little sorry for the people but at least polly parrot will stop repeating learnt phrases.
Maybe he will even begin to think for himself.
We live in hope.
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Sep 28th, 2014 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0:-)
¡Viva Chile!
Sep 28th, 2014 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice that Falklanders can celebrate Chilean Independence and Freedom, together as brothers.
Sep 28th, 2014 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And now the opening of a Chilean (honorary) Consulate is in order- like in the good old days!
Sep 28th, 2014 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
Brown Nose definition:
Sep 28th, 2014 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A brown nose is a Sycophantic person who has their head so far up somebody's rear end that they have a brown nose.
#5
Sep 28th, 2014 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obviously you speak from deep personal experience with KFC or one of her minions.
August 28th 2014
Sep 28th, 2014 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”In an official release from the Foreign Affairs ministry, Muñoz stated the pleasure of having received former senator Filmus at his office, and to whom he reiterated “Chile's support for Argentina's sovereign rights over the Malvinas, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands and adjoining maritime spaces”.
Muñoz added that this is the traditional position of Chile and president Michelle Bachelet, which “Chile has had the satisfaction of supporting at the United Nations Decolonization Committee, which calls for negotiations between Argentina and the United Kingdom”.
Who's foreign affairs ministry, let me guess?
Sep 28th, 2014 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yours.
WTF am I saying!
Yours is in London.
Whoops!!!
@7
Sep 28th, 2014 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0” which calls for negotiations between Argentina and the United Kingdom”.
But Argentina will not talk because unlike with the 1960s/1970s/1980s, Argentina completely disregards the interests of the Falkland Islanders by refusing to attend meetings with the islanders present.
No Islanders at talk-no talks.
(Please read 2065 very carefully).
It is not in the interests of the Falkland Islanders to be excluded from talks.
Therefore to satisfy 2065 which stipulates that the interests of the population must be taken into account, talks cannot take place without the Islanders being present, as the UK government recognises the Falkland Island Government as the body that runs the Islands, such as the UK accepts the Welsh and Scottish parliaments.
No representation from FIG, no talks.
3 Troy Tempest
Sep 28th, 2014 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was going to say that!!! ( or something along those lines )
Nice to see the Islanders building happy friendships.
Keep it up guys!
Kind of flies in the face of CFKs unity against us, does it not.
Sep 28th, 2014 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Falklands celebrates Chile's National Day with party at Government House
Sep 28th, 2014 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol. bootlickers
Justice...lol
Sep 28th, 2014 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7 It's called lip-service.
Sep 28th, 2014 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Resolution 2065 is irrelevant killed off by the events of 1982 and 4 ICJ Advisory Opinions and 1 ICJ Judgment made between 1971 and 2010 that confirm or state, 'that the right to self-determination is applicable to ALL NSGTs.'
Hence Ban Ki-Moon's words, 'I don't think Security Council Members (UK) are in breach of ANY 'relevant' UN resolutions.'
The Chileans like the Brazilians are laughing behind the backs of Argentinean politicians.
The main trouble with CFK is this,
Sep 28th, 2014 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What she really wants is to suspend all UN resolutions and agreements
And acts, until she gets what she wants to suit herself,
Then have the whole lot re-instated and demand we all follow the rules….
Or I might have this wrong..mmmm
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http://factcheckargentina.org/
Sep 28th, 2014 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK at war with the world
12 paulcedron
Sep 28th, 2014 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Falklands celebrates Chile's National Day with party at Government House”
lol. bootlickers
Bootlickers? It's called getting-along-with-your neighbours.
The ONLY reason that KFC has support for her illegal colonial ideas is the fact that she throws a free f**k to anyone who will listen to her.
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Sep 28th, 2014 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now I say!! AND I SAY IT LOUD,,what the hell is wrong with 300 Chilians getting together with the rest of the islanders AND HAVING A BLOODY BARBECUE!!!!
Sep 28th, 2014 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...somebody has got to eat all those sheeeeeeep!!!!
Despite the Chilean placating comments to Argentina, such as: of course those islands belong to you, yes, that nasty shopkeeper's daughter had no business sinking your cruiser, and yes, their should be a law against those little short Nepalese carrying those nasty long blades into combat...
Sep 28th, 2014 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The truth is, we're very pro Falkland Islands and very great flu for your kindness to our people there. ¡Viva Falklands Islands! Viva Chile!
Wow nothing gets the Argentineans more upset than when the Falkland Islanders make friends with someone.
Sep 28th, 2014 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Th Chilean government (like most) mouths platitudes to the Argentinean government. The fact is, that 10% of the people living in the Islands are Chilean and instead being seen as a threat, they are friends.
Argentina wants the islands so badly and yet more and more each year the Islanders want nothing to do with Argentina. Chile's got what Argentina wants.... a relationship with the Islanders.
@21 Anglotino
Sep 28th, 2014 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chile's got what Argentina wants.... a relationship with the Islanders.
And the Falklands spend a lot of their money with Chile (workers, supplies, and Lan Chile. Argentina are too stupid to want help with employing their people, and the Falkland Islander's money for services, goods etc etc, but I guess that's because being in debt is a successful economic objective in Argentina's eyes.
Self harm through ideology..... sounds like a mental illness Pete.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anglotino
Sep 29th, 2014 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0I wrote you at your Anglotino Gmail address.
Hopefully, I got it right.
Let me know.
Good end run you did on V.
Of course he's probably your burden now.
If Argentina had not been so evil, you may actually have been pretty close to running the islands by now, but as usual you messed it up just like everything you touch. So the chance has long gone, whatever you do now will get you nothing. The bogus claim is as much use as a chocolate tea pot.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Great to see the Chileans and Falkland Islanders getting along well.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 03:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chileans inviting their neighbours to help celebrate their national day.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 07:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Getting on with their neighbours, how adult, how mature of them.
Viva Chile!
Viva common decency and respect for one and other.
@12. Who exactly are the 'bootlickers'? The Falklanders for holding a party or the Chileans for attending? It's a strange comment because I have no doubt the Castro female attends any British Government bash she can get an invite to. Does that make her a bootlicker? If the argie embassy holds an official bash, does it exclude British ministers and/or officials? Very discourteous when you're a guest in someone's country. You do realise that she has no right to be in the UK, don't you? She's here on sufferance. And we could decide at any moment not to suffer any longer. She's already stepped over the line a number of times. She's been very quiet for some time. Does she not want to 'go home'?
Sep 29th, 2014 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chileans inviting their neighbours to help celebrate their national day.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0chile and the islets are not neigbours.
don´t you have a map there?
no?
Chileans living in the next house to Falkland Islanders are neighbours!.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chileans who's children go to school with islanders children are neighbours.
You want me to draw you a picture? Or has the penny dropped!!!!
#29
Sep 29th, 2014 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0You have a narrow definition (in more than one sense) of the meaning of neighbour which, at least in English, is incorrect.
Not only can Chileans be neighbours of Falkland Islanders (as pointed out by #30) the Falkland Islands, a geographical/political entity can be described as being in the same neighbourhood as Chile, Argentina, etc. as their separation is much smaller than that of geographical/political entities on average. Thus Chile and the Falkland Islands are indeed neighbours (which does not require them to be next door).
While you may have a map (hardly surprising as images of Greater Argentina [sic] are plastered everywhere) you clearly don't have a clue.
Paulcedron - As many Chileans say - there is ONE problem between Chile and the Falklands - its the bit in the middle.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are indeed our neighbours and friends - as are the people of Uruguay.
National Govts have public policies often for valid reasons- which the Islands understand and respect - because we know that at the same time those National Govts are happy to get on with practical matters like trade and relations- ie they have TWO Policies.
One keeps the mad lady quiet - the other suits their people and allows business to grow.
The Chilean National Flag flew high and proud over Stanley that day as a mark of respect to the Chilean people who are very much part of the Falklands community - and was filmed going up the pole on Chilean National TV..
Chileans like the Falklanders, in Punta Arenas the feelings are especially strong.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I only have disgust for our politicians who kiss the silicone arse of CFK...
They are indeed our neighbours and friends - as are the people of Uruguay.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it seems their goverments do not think the same.
:)
http://archivo.losandes.com.ar/notas/2012/1/11/gesto-historico-chile-ratifica-respaldo-argentina-malvinas-617732.asp
http://archivo.losandes.com.ar/notas/2012/1/11/gesto-historico-chile-ratifica-respaldo-argentina-malvinas-617732.asp
Paulcedron- Do you really have to show us all how totally THICK you are every time you write? - Go back and slowly - one letter at a time for your little mind to understand - READ what I wrote about Govts!
Sep 29th, 2014 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I had the pleasure last week of visiting the Argentinian Ambassadors residence in Belgravia during London open house weekend. A most enjoyable experience. The hosts were so polite. Welcome to Argentina said a greeter as I crossed the threshold. There was an exhibition of photography on the first floor, I forget the photographer alas. Guests were also admitted into the holy of holies, her excellencies office. She did have a large number of Malvinas/Falklands related literature on her bookshelves, including Jimmy Burns outstanding The land which lost its heros Does she read English?
Sep 29th, 2014 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0None of this has anything to do with Chilean/Falklands courtesies of course. Just like to share an experience with our regular readers.
Best wishes to all (even Paul and Marcos)
35. nabo from the islets.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and what can you, braiwashed islander, know about the people of uruguay?
you cannot even locate it on the map.
so shut it.
From what I'm reading the islanders are more interested in being right with the Argentines, that we with them. Therefore, as hysterical maid, take to show their friends to see if they cause your neighbor jealous. Well they are wrong, we do not know anything about the islanders and not feel jealous of his alleged friendship with our neighbors at every opportunity that has presented the Argentina has made clear that the Malvinas issue is settled with UK and not with the usurpers. So keep dreaming that we will have good neighborly relations with you and continue the walk from the oil rigs, they will extract oil when pretending to know perfectly well that it will not be possible without the collaboration of the continent. We all know they are speculating with the change of government in Argentina to get back to oil deals, but that will not happen in this or any other government.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Alicia Castro also praised the British CWU union’s support in calling for dialogue in the bilateral dispute over the sovereignty of Malvinas islands.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/170983/alicia-castro-thanks-british-unions-support-in-vulture-funds-battle
British Falklands old chaps-British,
Sep 29th, 2014 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0until the islanders say otherwise,
Turnip Paul 37 - Actually I travelled there many times direct from the islands by sea before we had an airport and still do travel there nowadays at times by air via Lan so am well aware of Uruguay,s location as a neighbour.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I do business there and have a good many Uruguayans as business colleagues and friends as well as knowing several of their elected deputies who have visited here.
You are such a twisted and bitter turnip!
Tortuga - Where do you get this fancifull idea from that no offshore oil can be developed off the Falklands without Argentina,s assistance?
We have oil exploration deals with Int Companies and a deepwater rig arrives Ma/April 2015 for exploratory drilling phase 2 in March/April 2015.
A simple fact.
38 Tortuga
Sep 29th, 2014 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has made clear that the Malvinas issue is settled with UK and not with the usurpers. So keep dreaming that we will have good neighborly relations with you and continue the walk from the oil rigs, they will extract oil when pretending to know perfectly well that it will not be possible without the collaboration of the continent. We all know they are speculating with the change of government in Argentina to get back to oil deals, but that will not happen in this or any other government.
Tortuga,
Surely you don't believe that.
The Falklanders will manage quite nicely, without Argentina's help.
I'm sure that your neighbours will jump at the chance to supply and service the Fslklands Oil industry.
They'll be chuckling up their sleeves when they think about Argentina stepping aside and allowing Brazil, Uruguay, or Chilé, to waltz in and take the easy money.
Meanwhile, Arg. that really needs the business, cuts off its nose, to spite it's face.
The Falklands are not as isolated as they once were.
If they need to, they will find a way to make it work.
Only Argentina loses.
Have a nice day.
:-p
To be honest,
Sep 29th, 2014 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0if Argentina wont , others will.
Chileans are the Islanders as neighbors, as we Argentines are from Easter Island .. !! LOL
Sep 29th, 2014 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ffs.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm talking about the guys who live next door or in your case, the cardboard box above yours!
As for the oil? You blew it!
It occurs to me, would these Chileans have voted in the recent referendum.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The one where of all the votes cast only 3 (votes) wanted not to be protected by Britain.
So presumably 99% of the Chileans who voted wanted the Falklands to remain British rather than colonized by Arentina.
I'm sure someone has the breakdown of the referendum and those eligable to vote.
But from memory the figures I've quoted are roughly accurate.
So much for the People of Chile siding with the Argentinian governments postion.
@36
Sep 29th, 2014 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you Mr Brooks0.
Nice to have a gentleman amongst us once more.
20 Chicureo
Sep 29th, 2014 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“yes, their should be a law against those little short Nepalese carrying those nasty long blades into combat...”
Priceless man, absolutely priceless.... much LOLZ
respect
46 Zaathras - Yes there would some Chileans with full Falklands status who would thus be on the electoral role and voted in the Referendum along with th0se similar of USA-Aus-NZ.and even a few of Argentine nationality as well.
Sep 29th, 2014 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@48 & @20
Sep 29th, 2014 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Too true. How could an Argentine soldier with a gun be expected to cope with a determined little chap with a long sharp knife?
It's just not fair! I'm surprised they didn't take it to the UN!
Lol!
utter cowards.
They only invaded because they expected almost zero resistance. Whereas a squadron leader of the Harriers, when faced with massive numbers of enemy aircraft, described it as a 'target-rich' environment.
Ha! Totally different attitude to the fight.
True fact. I'll find the quote if you like.
:)
The difference between men and boys, indeed!
We will not share our oil from the islands, because if it were that would run behind you for a portion. We have under our soil more oil than we can consume in 300 years, so we will not go for a portion of our oil from the islands, we will go around the oil. You can never remove it and know it. Need at least 1,000 workers which should give you all kinds of amenities that have not, well if you happen to put into operation a well, we will cut off access to the continent and its Chilean residents return home by Saint Helena and from there one God know where to return ..
Sep 29th, 2014 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0??
Sep 29th, 2014 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 051 Torty
Sep 30th, 2014 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0You? You are going to stop LAN from overflying Argentina??
You really must be an important person !!
Wouldn't they have done that by now, if they really felt they could gain from it?
Certainly they would have.
Regardless, you guys aren't stopping anybody from doing anything.
29 paulcedron (#)
Sep 30th, 2014 - 05:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Chileans inviting their neighbours to help celebrate their national day.”
chile and the islets are not neigbours.
don´t you have a map there?
no?
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44 Tortuga Island (#)
Chileans are the Islanders as neighbors, as we Argentines are from Easter Island .. !! LOL
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Not sure who really needs a map... because when I look at the map I can directly recognize Falklanders as direct neighbours, since we have gained direct Access to the Atlantic Ocean at 2 Points (Cap Hoorn, Isla Nueva and Punta Dungeness).
If the planet would be flat, you could draw a parallel line and even see the Falklands Islands from Chilean soil in Punta Dungeness.
”It occurs to me, would these Chileans have voted in the recent referendum.
Sep 30th, 2014 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0The one where of all the votes cast only 3 (votes) wanted not to be protected by Britain.
So presumably 99% of the Chileans who voted wanted the Falklands to remain British rather than colonized by Arentina.”
This is correct and there are also more than 3 Argentines eligable to vote.
Some uneducated idiots need to differentiate between a neighbour and a NEXT DOOR neighbour.
Sep 30th, 2014 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0A house 10 doors away can be a neighbour.
56 Anglotino (#)
Sep 30th, 2014 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Some uneducated idiots need to differentiate between a neighbour and a NEXT DOOR neighbour.
A house 10 doors away can be a neighbour.
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not only that... the most approximate point on Argentinian soil next to the Falklands Islands is not much nearer than the most approximate point to Chile. As indicated, Punta Dungeness, a Chilean outpost directly at the Atlantic Ocean needs to be defined as direct neighbour. If not, than Argentina by logic would neither qualify for this definition.
But here again... most Argentinian (not all) and logic are like water and oil. xD
imbeciles various:
Sep 30th, 2014 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0again, you dumbasses should learn the definition of neighbouring countries.
A neighboring country is a country that is right next to another country.
países limítrofes in spanish.
probably you, pair of idiots think that the islets are neighbour of the whole world because they are a pair of rocks in the middle of the sea.
then you, nabos x1000, should learn the concept of maritime boundary.
once you have learnt all of this, you will realize that the islets only limit with argentina.
even more, that the islets are an integral part of argentina.
bunch of burros
49
Sep 30th, 2014 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I thought only British Citizens were allowed to vote in the referendum....??
...wasn't only 1517 out of 2932 population, allowed to vote and all those had to be British Citizens....
...I doubt anyone from the USA was allowed to vote...they would have to voluntarily change their nationality to British from American unless they had been children and obtained dual nationality....
The US is disdainful of dual citizenship...it's one or the other, but not both for Americans born in the US....
...don't know about Chile and dual citizenship....
I hope you're all happy with yourselves... I think you've broken paul (#58) with your definitions of neighbouring countries.
Sep 30th, 2014 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0that the islets are an integral part of argentina. Not according to anyone who matters.
Bless, you keep trying dear.
@59
Sep 30th, 2014 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No you don't have to have be a British Citizen to vote just be on the electoral role which you are automatically put on after 7, I think, years (could be wrong about how long you have to be in the Islands it may be less).
#58
Sep 30th, 2014 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Taking your somewhat histrionic reply to heart, I decided to check the boundaries of Argentina on Google earth. It appears that Chile's eastern boundary is actually on the straights of Magellan, on the S.Atlantic.
The use of the ENGLISH word neighbours would seem to be appropriate in this case. If the coastline of Argentina was continuous on the East coast then I may have been inclined to agree with you ....but it is NOT.
Neighbours in English usage is a looser term than you are implying.
that the islets are an integral part of Argentina
Sep 30th, 2014 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No they are not,
they are British until the islanders state otherwise.
A couple of serious qualifications from a Chilean citizen:
Sep 30th, 2014 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 01. Dual citizenship is recognized as well as common in Chile.
2. Chile does have an Atlantic Coast which is recognized by Argentina.
#51. With what navy and with what airforce? With one of our frigates, one of our submarines and 4 of our F-16s and Argentina's forces are completely destroyed...
(you'll note I left the army out of this because it would be a bloodbath...)
hoohoo!
Sep 30th, 2014 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0paul-carrion has joined Tobi in the looney-bin!
*just knew I should have bought more pop-corn... :-(*
heehee!
I just love how Paul is telling native English speakers the definition of English terms. Seems to toally miss the point of having different terms for neighbourhood, neighbour and next door neighbour.
Sep 30th, 2014 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seems we can differentiate between the different meanings but he, with his extremely limited abilities, is unable to.
Chile, Argentina, Uruguay and Brazil are all neighbours in the South Atlantic neighbourhood.
66 anglotine
Sep 30th, 2014 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what south atlantic neighbourhood are you talking about?
it seems you like the rest of the nabos don´t know the concept of continent.
it is SOUTH AMERICA, not the south atlantic blablabla, ignorants all of you.
Oh dear
Sep 30th, 2014 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0*shakes head*
There's your proof Anglotino
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Sep 30th, 2014 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#48 ttotdy
Sep 30th, 2014 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Those Nepalese caused lots of emotional distress to their national psyche.
69-niño @69
Sep 30th, 2014 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0why the tantrums, little boy?? :-)
why are you saying all these silly things?
We know perfectly well what South America is, AND the South Atlantic.
Crying and name calling changes nothing.
Chilé and Uruguay are our friends, Argentina is not. We're agreed on that, surely.
Chilé and Uruguay are close enough to supply the Falklsnds of needed, regardless of what you call them.
:-D
Argentina loses business.
The Falklands Oil & Gas industry will continue on, without you.
Chilé will make money.
Uruguay will make money, too.
They laugh while you stamp your feet and cry.
LOL !!! Niño!!!
Ja ha ha ha ja ....,
Ilsen,
Sep 30th, 2014 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are correct. Paul thinks that because he had deficient education and lacks sufficent intelligence that I am at his level. I can differentiate between a continent and a geographical area.
Paul
Just because shouting people down and calling them names gets you places in your life doesn't mean it will get you anywhere with me. You can call me all the names you want. It does not hide the fact that you are quite incapable of keeping up with the level that many people on here converse at.
Ranting and railing in post after post just devalues your input further.
I would say that Falkland Islands are part of a SOUTH ATLANTIC neighbourhood but I would not be comfortable in being correct in saying they are part of a SOUTH AMERICAN neighbourhood.
A neighbourhood is a shared geographical space based on a social convention and not delineated by any concrete rules but rather arbitary rules based on many different ideas.
Chile is Falkland Islands neighbour. So unfortunately is Argentina.
No use getting upset because the Falkland Islanders (no matter what names you call them) prefer dealing with Chile rather than Argentina.
How Argentina ever thinks it is going to gain sovereignty over the islets when no one there wants anything to do with them is beyond me. In 2014, nations are no longer arbitarily granted to new states by any international agreement without the say of the people involved.
You lost, so get over it and move on.
Ones interpretation of a neighbour
Oct 01st, 2014 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 01, the guy living on my left
2, the lady living on my right
3, the family opposite me.[cul de sac ]
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Neighbourhood
Within walking distance of the local shop,
Providing you have one..lol
South America is just that, the south American mainland,
The south Atlantic on the other hand would be in the south Atlantic,
Depending on where you start the south from,
But near the bottom of the south Atlantic sits the British Falklands islands.
That are not neighbours of the mainland, but islands 300 odd miles of the coast..
lolol
.just my watery opinion..
@72 & @73
Oct 01st, 2014 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Both very, very clear explanations.
Unfortunately still way above the comprehension level of paul-carrion.
Never mind. You tried. Which is honourable and decent.
Two words I could never use about potty-mouth paulie.
Soon the lights will be going out across Argentina. I feel a little sorry for the people but at least polly parrot will stop repeating learnt phrases.
Maybe he will even begin to think for himself.
We live in hope.
Agreed.
Oct 03rd, 2014 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“A neighboring country is a country that is right next to another country.”
Oct 04th, 2014 - 04:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Says who?
países limítrofes in spanish.
is bordering countries in English
*66 you are such a LOVING GUY!! you seem to LOVE everything!! bit of a tweet.arent you?? LOL LOL LOL
Oct 04th, 2014 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Urgh!
Oct 04th, 2014 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0FakeAussie is such a horrid little man. I often feel that I should check my shoes for dogshit after reading his posts.
Nasty little throwback.
I can't understand post 77 at all.
Oct 05th, 2014 - 06:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0I do seem to upset him though. Must be because I'm an actually Aussie.
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