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Spanish fighter jets enter Gibraltar air space in “reckless and dangerous” stunt

Monday, October 6th 2014 - 06:48 UTC
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Spanish fighter jets illegally entered UK airspace to fly “across the bows” of a British airliner in a “reckless and dangerous” stunt over Gibraltar, according to a report in the Sunday Express. Read full article

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  • Vestige

    See earlier story about deploying large RN vessel.

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    If true, this is silly. Military aircraft in established civilian flight paths, apparently operating on different radio frequencies.

    Recipe for a disaster, literally.

    There was a story involving an airliner not so long ago, I believe that one was taking off. I wonder if this is the same or a 2nd incident?

    If this is the second, then it's criminally stupid behaviour, it's endangering life.

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Catalonia's causing a constitutional crisis.... ooh look Gibraltar!

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    What would happen if a belligerent warplane did the same over Stansted, or over Stanley?

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    It must be in the jeans ( oops “ genes ”) Argentina and Spain just like to try and provoke a reaction.

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vectis

    Time to put Surface to Air missiles on the rock and light them up

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • knarfw

    Not Eurofighters if they were operating from a carrier.

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • inthegutter

    #7

    “Not Eurofighters if they were operating from a carrier.”

    I think that bit was in reference to the previous incursion which were indeed the U.S. version of the Harrier (McDonnell Douglas AV-8B Harrier II I believe).

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 6 Beat me to it.

    @ 7 We can't expect the Sunday Express to be able to understand why they are NOT Eurofighters!

    They have only been told I don't know how many times we don't have planes for our new carriers, yet here we are thinking the Spanish can miraculously fly them from their carrier.

    I suspect they were Eurofighters as they only have four in flying order, the other few are grounded due to no money being available to operate them.

    For training purposes the pilots have to sit in the dead cockpit going Shssss, SSSsss, followed by ARGHHH: an accurate scream replicating the crash and burn they may be lucky to experience due to no flying time since whenever.

    The Spanish are as stupid as TMBOA, thankfully.

    It is about time the Gibraltans were properly defended from these Spanish cretins.

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Vectis @ #6

    I'll be very surprised if the Spanish (?) plane was not lit up.
    (Isn't there a US airbase or two on the Spanish mainland?)

    I find it very hard to believe that there are no air defences on the Rock.

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    “Spanish fighter jets illegally entered UK airspace ..blablabla..”

    uk airspace is in...the uk, you dumbassholes.

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Is it realy? Then test your theory out, try and send one of yours over the Islands. He will tell you who airspace it is.

    Blablabla.

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    RC you're too funny. I can't in my wildest imagination ever see rubber band planes making it from Argentina to Europe.

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    @11 The UK offered to go to the ICJ with S pain over British Gibraltar airspace, territorial waters, the Isthmus and the status of Gibraltar back in 1969. The Spanish government declined. What was a pathetically weak case for Spain back then is non existent today - they have acquiesced.

    PS What is the airspace over Ceuta and Melilla called, Moroccan?

    Lol

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    “Do you really think Spain would risk one of these pilots causing a major problem for them such as hitting an aircraft on takeoff from Gib’s airport by flying anywhere near them, never mind at supersonic speeds?

    You just don’t get it, do you? But of course it sounds good to you. Idiota.”

    - ChrisR

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @7, 9. Please desist from trying to confuse the issue. The aircraft flying from the Spanish carrier were, as 'inthegutter' made quite clear were Spanish EAVB Matador II. The Spanish call it the VA-2 Matador II. That airborne incursion took place in July 2013.
    @11. Who writes the preamble? The article refers to 'Gibraltar airspace'. However, as Gibraltar is a UN trust territory overseen by the UK, and with no military defences of its own, I see little difficulty in considering it an extension of UK airspace. And Gibraltar International Airport is also known as RAF Gibraltar. It is a joint civil-military facility. Maybe, if there is another 'incursion', the spanish may be surprised. The Rapier missile is very effective. It has a speed of Mach 2.5. Somewhat faster than anything spanish.

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • US Air Force

    Better go unearth ole' Iron Britches and threaten nuclear war over Gibraltar!! What is the UK going to do? attack Spain.......yet again the UK displaying arrogance over property that does not belong to them..yet again - displaced the local population and settled it with Brits, and then claimed 'rights to self determination' - whatever.

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    It would be cool to see a conventional war play out between the two Kingdoms.

    Spain would recapture the Rock or flaten it, but what price would Spain be willing to pay for it??

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brasherboot

    Ooh I see a delightful subtle retaliation from the UK.

    Catalonia needs UK support for independence.

    When the next generation of aircraft are to be built poor Spain wont be part of the design, build or supply.

    Poor Spain needs money. It doesnt have it. The UK is VERY wealthy. Now we can play games with the third world cack hole.

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 15 No Vestige of a brain

    It was amusing to see that you copy my posts, now try to understand this:

    “Do you really think Spain would risk one of these pilots causing a major problem for them such as hitting an aircraft on takeoff from Gib’s airport by flying anywhere near them, never mind at supersonic speeds?”

    It turns out:
    they were NOT Eurofighters but VSTOL planes and therefore unable to go supersonic in the conditions (mach1 depends on air pressure, altitude and air density and is therefore a variable mph number);

    did the alleged flyby in 2013;

    So my post is still correct: Spain may be stupid but they are frightened shitless to take on the UK in a fighting war.

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @15
    And I suppose you were there? How do you know, were you the pilot? They have such things as radar( invented by an Englishman ) so I suppose the GIBRALTANS would know.

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    “So my post is still correct.”

    - ChrisR

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Those bloody Dagos!

    Who do they Think they are?

    Overflying The Rock with their silly Europacazas Tifón...

    England should retaliate immediately by returning all those silly Spanish made right wings installed on their Eurofighters Typhoon....

    Chuckle chuckle....

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    @ 17 US Air Force

    Again you show your absolute ignorance concerning historical matters. Gibraltar was ceded to Britain by the Monarch of Spain in PERPETUITY by way of the Treaty of Utrecht 1713 Article 10. Viz: http://www.gbc.gi/upload/pdf/Treaty%20of%20Utrecht.pdf

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • inthegutter

    #17

    Can you make yourself look any more stupid? Gibraltar was seized by the British over 300 years ago and subsequently ceded by the Treaty of Utrecht. Are you suggesting that all territory taken by force in the last 400 years should be returned?

    “ displaced the local population and settled it with Brits, and then claimed 'rights to self determination' ”

    Except that people who identify as British origin only make up ~25% of the population. Looking at the surnames of the current cabinet (Picardo, Garcia, Cortes, Sacramento, Licudi, Bossano, Costa, Balban, Linares, and Isola), not one is a British.

    Muppet.

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    If RAF typhoons (comming from the FI) can flight over the Argentine side of Tierra del Fuego without the corresponding “green-light” and not being a threat..Why Spanish jets cannot flight over the Gibraltar air space?

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    As a supposed fellow EU ally,
    And a fellow NATO ally
    One has to wonder just who our enemies really are.
    Because they certainly aint our friend.
    .

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    You have an ally country because of common interests....this doesn't mean that an ally is your friend or that you share point of views...

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • US Air Force

    Once again the British delusion of superiority and warmongering clamor to no avail. Have to cling to some piece of toilet paper from the 1700's and dismiss ideas such 'decolonization' that has been publicly disputed for over fifty years now. You should read your history and stop making shit up, only 70 of the 5000 Spanish inhabitants were allowed to remain on the Island and the rest are Brits that were brought in to colonize....Viejo marica. Go home.

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    very very true,
    but when was the last time a EU or NATO member harassed and abused another members sovereign territory ,
    ?? unless im wrong ..

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    GI Juan.

    What's the big deal? In fifteen years time you, the Hispanic States of America, can use your political clout to order the Brits to surrender Gibraltar to your Hispanic Brothers in Spain.

    You could always back it up with threats of using the HSAF, HS NAVY, HSMC AND HS ARMY to support any Spanish action.

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Well for an EU that supposedly want the British to stay on board they are going the wrong way abt it by allowing the Spanish to do what they are doing,

    Is it not true that the British are abt to give the Spanish a multy billion pound contract to build military vehicles for the British army,

    Perhaps David thinks if he upsets the Spanish, they will interrupt the delivery of the planes they are helping to make.
    Or,
    Is it a distant possibility that they mr cleggs, wife and family are Spanish,
    And he is somehow influences it somehow.

    what a very odd world we are now living in...

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    29 US Air Force

    Normally, people are not in so much of a rush to humiliate themselves so completely in public. You seem to have absolutely no fear what so ever when it comes to show everyone and anyone how truly stupid you are.

    Either, you are pretending to ignore the facts so you can just troll

    or

    ( and this is my guess ) you can not fully understand the written word.

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • inthegutter

    #29

    Perhaps you're right that civilians were ejected 300 years ago, but that means nothing today.

    “Have to cling to some piece of toilet paper from the 1700's and dismiss ideas such 'decolonization' that has been publicly disputed for over fifty years now.”

    Are you really this stupid? Decolonisation does not mean “give back to the nation that last owned it” [might I add that the UK has governed Gibraltar longer (~300 years) than Spain has (~250 years)]. Decolonisation means to give the current inhabitants the right to self-determination, which is exactly what the UK has done.

    Spain has less right to Gibraltar than any nation in the America's has to its land.

    Pathetic hypocrite.

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    I support Gibraltaians right to self determination. And the British right to support them.
    Best policy for the British? Support Catalonia!

    Oct 06th, 2014 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussiesunshinee

    The uk´s eigth largest export market is Spain. Worth around 15 billion pounds.This equates to more British exports than those of that went to China and India combined.
    The Uk commerce ministry is celebrating a festival all over Spain to further increase these exports to Spaint his very month.
    www.gov.uk/government/world-location-news/britain-is -great-festival-launches-on-17th-october.
    Great Britain has two juggle Gibraltar and the 15 billion exports to Spain which is no easy task......The 30.000 llanitos or the 15 billion exports to Spain????

    Oct 07th, 2014 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    @36 aussiesunshinee

    You should try to be less biased in your postings and include more facts.

    Spanish imports from UK in 2013 14 billion GBP
    Spanish exports to the UK in 2013 13 billion GBP

    More than 13 million Britons visit Spain every year, generating 1 per cent of Spain’s GDP and the UK remains the largest foreign investor in Spain’s property market.

    So it would seem Spain is more dependant on the UK

    Oct 07th, 2014 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • inthegutter

    #36

    I'm not sure I see your point. Are you suggesting that Spain could/would block imports from the UK in order to blackmail us into giving them Gibraltar?

    Firstly, the UK doesn't respond well to blackmail or bullying - if you can find an example where it did please do tell.

    I also don't see how this would be legal given we are both EU members. Unless of course you are suggesting that Spain leave the EU, which would likely further cripple its economy.

    Spain continues to act like a petulant child over something that happened 300 years ago. Gibraltar has been British longer than it was part of Spain.

    Oct 07th, 2014 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Spain a modern democracy, EU and NATO partner
    Or a joke 3rd world banana republic, it seems that rajoy and his cronies prefer the later.
    ,
    UK Ambassador on unprecedented visit as tensions rise ahead of UN
    http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=34745
    Again the British government replies in kind,
    Legally it does not affect our sovereignty.
    Sooner or later Spain may well cause the deaths of hundreds of innocent people,
    What will it take, either the British to retaliate or the Spanish to stop.
    .

    Oct 07th, 2014 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    “Great Britain has two juggle Gibraltar and the 15 billion exports to Spain which is no easy task......The 30.000 llanitos or the 15 billion exports to Spain????”

    Seems they're doing both already.

    They don't have to choose one or the other.

    They choose BOTH.

    Now what is Spain going to do about THAT?

    Oct 07th, 2014 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Hey guys......do actual vets a favor to do not respond to USAF. That' tranny boi tobi folding paper planes and thinks he's a fighter jockey.

    Oct 07th, 2014 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    There are two important by-elections on the 9th October in the UK. Hopefully both will result our first UKIP MP's and our first step to leaving the EU.

    In truth it has already started, there are hardly any British staff working in the EU Commission now and although there is glee at the prospect of the UK leaving from many, this is tempered with the knowledge that the UK's contribution to the EU coffers is likely to have a hugely detrimental impact on the EU budget, which they haven't balanced for 19 years.

    Also, they are in fear of widespread disillusionment with the EU project and others that did not join the Eurozone following the UK.

    So Spain can play it's pathetic games but what they don't realise is that they are pushing us closer and closer to EU exit.

    They day is fast approaching when I can finally say “actually i'm not European, i'm British”.

    Oct 07th, 2014 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussiesunshinee

    GOODY!! GOODY! so Spain is pushing you out and closer to EU exit!!
    GOODY!! GOODY!! Spain PLEASE DON´T stop!! GOODY! GOODY!

    Oct 07th, 2014 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Yes yes of course it is SPAIN that is pushing the UK out of the EU.

    Unsure why this is a good thing for Spain. Gibraltar will probably the apply for Schengen.

    Oct 08th, 2014 - 03:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Spain is in dispute with the British morocco and Portugal,

    for the land she has either stolen or trying to steal,

    give it back before you condemn others aussie boy.

    Oct 08th, 2014 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussiesunshinee

    *45 why don´t you give NI back to the Irish and the Malvinas back to Argentina and Gibraltar back to Spain and the British Indian Ocean territory back to Mauritius and Seychelles....Briton boy!!!!

    Oct 08th, 2014 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • inthegutter

    #46

    Why don't you give back Argentina to native inhabitants? Why doesn't Spain give back Iberia to the Moors?

    Tell you what, instead we'll just ask the people who live their today and see what they want.

    Oct 08th, 2014 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    @46
    Very as simple as you well know, they are self-governing and self-determined and they are very happy with their association with the crown.

    Oct 08th, 2014 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    46 aussiesunshinee
    the TRUTH is, they wish to remain British, Catalonia and other region's of Spain wants a referendum to get away from you,

    do us all a favour, give em one.

    Oct 08th, 2014 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussiesunshinee

    *49 LOL LOL tell that to Sinn Fein!!!

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    50
    Dear Sunshinee.

    Another one of your fantastic posts, so full of truths and facts.
    Why do you keep trying to embarrass yourself by posting such rubbish.?

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussiesunshinee

    *51 well, Briton did mention that NI wanted to remain British!! did he not?
    and I answered try telling that to Sinn fein who controls west Belfast.....

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    aussieboy will be sending in the Spanish navy next to kick the brits out
    Perhaps the mighty Spanish navy will show it tough face, after all, they apparently have a very powerful navy, as of 2013
    There are approximately 54 commissioned ships in the Navy
    Including one amphibious assault ship (also used as an aircraft carrier), two amphibious transport docks, 11 frigates,
    Three submarines, six mine countermeasure vessels, 23 patrol vessels
    And a number of auxiliary ships. The total displacement of the Spanish Navy is approximately 220,000 tonnes.

    go on make us laugh.

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    malvinas, gibraltar and north ireland = 3 problems with 1 common denominator: england

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    52 aussiesunshinee
    *51 well, Briton did mention that NI wanted to remain British!! Did he not?
    [- No he did not you did -]
    He said, quote/unquote,
    [They wish to remain British ]
    Where do those 5 words mention NI

    IT DOES NOT
    Chuckled chunkily..

    Spain, and Argentina
    2 problems with 1 common denominator :Dictatorship..

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    First off Paul it's NORTHERN Ireland. Jeez if you are going attempt deflection then at least get the name right.

    However I fail to see any problem in Northern Ireland.

    Nor Gibraltar.

    Nor Falkland Islands.

    All of them are happily British.

    Seems it is Catalonia that has the biggest problem. Much bigger than an part of the UK.

    Oct 10th, 2014 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussiesunshinee

    *53 make you laugh!?? why?? you are doing a good job on your own!!!
    3.500 people died in the Northern Ireland conflict. A conflict where the Northern Irish wanted the Brits out ....that does not sound to me like they wanted to remain with Britain!! and now Sinn Fein winning the councils of ; Belfast city,Newry,Mourne,Down;Derry;Strabone, Mid Ulster,Fermanagh and Omagh. I am sure an independent referendum is around the corner. Scotland now having half its population wanting independence. I do not see hapiness in The Kingdom......

    Oct 10th, 2014 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    There is happiness, aussie #57, and there is unhappiness.

    Generally speaking, those without jobs are less happy than those with jobs. But in an integrated EU the 'British jobs' are available to many more millions, not just to the British.
    So, many Brits are without work - 'lazy' and on social support, or otherwise priced out of the job market by 'cheaper' East Europeans. This is the way the Market operates, as a larger entity.

    Wrt Northern Ireland:
    This was 'tribal'. Just like two tribes in the Amazon fighting over 'their' lands, with the Brasilian Government trying to keep them apart through the police/army, and alive through FUNAI.
    The tribal parallels are quite similar.

    Oct 10th, 2014 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    ,
    57@
    Their you go again, the past, the past,
    Anything to cover up your illogical non existent conclusions

    Still,
    First steel cut on new patrol ships
    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/first-steel-cut-on-new-patrol-ships
    HMS Forth and is expected to be handed over to the Royal Navy in 2017.
    The second will be named HMS Medway
    and the third HMS Trent.
    Enjoy…

    Oct 10th, 2014 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Sunshine just admitted that the UK is strong enough to allow referenda.

    But Spain isn't.

    Seems referenda are a good thing for the Scottish and Northern Irish but a bad thing for Catalonia.

    Aaah the hypocrisy tastes absolutely delicious.

    Oct 10th, 2014 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • inthegutter

    #57

    And yet the people NI have consistently voted for unionist parties over others. The number of NI citizen who want an independent NI is certainly well below 50% and probably around 20-30%.

    In the unlikely event that the Argentina somehow annexed the Falklands would the islanders have a right to secede?

    Oct 10th, 2014 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @54

    “malvinas, gibraltar and north ireland = 3 problems with 1 common denominator: england”

    Three problems with 1 common denominator: the populations concerned have all freely and overwhelmingly confirmed their current status. But what have democracy and human rights got to do with anything when latin sensibilities are involved?

    Otherwise the case of Northern Ireland is slightly different from the other two in that the other claimant, the Irish Republic, is a country mature and democratic enough to have voted in a referendum to remove its irredentist claim from its constitution in favour of letting the people decide.

    Perhaps one day Spain and Argentina will catch up, but nobody is holding their breath.

    Oct 10th, 2014 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    'the populations concerned have all freely and overwhelmingly confirmed their current status.' #62

    'And yet the people NI have consistently voted for unionist parties over others. #61

    They didn't *all* do it, and it was done *severally*, this is a majority choice, far from the choice of everybody. Democracy for a nation divided.

    Oct 10th, 2014 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @63

    Only in North Korea do *all* voters vote for the same thing. The Good Friday agreement was supported by 70% in the North and 94% in the Republic. That's overwhelming.

    Oct 10th, 2014 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Only in North Korea do *all* voters vote for the same thing
    Apparently in this particular case
    they have ended up with what they did not choose.??

    apparently he has gone AWOL...

    Oct 10th, 2014 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 65 Briton

    And all the videos of his 'loyal' subjects crying their eyes out is only because they are frightened of him coming back.

    Oct 10th, 2014 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Ha ha..
    mind you, I wonder wear he will turn up??

    Oct 10th, 2014 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #57
    A conflict where the Northern Irish wanted the Brits out ..
    From where did you get that ridiculous statement ? From the aussie sunshine book of unsubstantiated ignorant prejudices . Seems like it.
    Check your facts before you embarrass yourself further .

    Oct 11th, 2014 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • US Air Force

    #68 Clyde....looks like the site moderator closed the forum to the other story, Troy T was getting his rant really on. Many of these posters except for Elain, Poppy and myself have revealed nothing about themselves. Troy's last entry made me seem to think that he was on something. It really is an Opsec deal and some posters don't get or have been out way too long, since there is such a hub bub about my occupation let's just say I work with several airframes on active duty.

    Oct 11th, 2014 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #69
    OK. What airframes and where? Choose from the following. This would break NO official secrets and lend much needed credence to your posts.
    Apart from MY name and address, I am perfectly willing to answer any questions about myself.
    A-10
    F-15, F-16, F-22 ,
    B-1 ,B-2, B-52
    C-5,C-12, C-17, C-20, C-21, C-26 ,C-27, C-32, C-37 ,C-38, C-40, C-130 C-144
    E-3,E -4, E-8, E-9, E-11,
    KC-10, KC-135,
    RC-135, T-38

    Oct 11th, 2014 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • US Air Force

    Clyde - you had previously stated that you were RAF? Nowadays, seeing how there are sooo many nut cases in the world that seem to be invading via liberal governments and policies, we are not even supposed to be even announce that we are active. Several of the platforms that you have listed are ones that I work with.
    This is about as much as I wish to divulge:

    This should open all of your eyes:

    The mayor of London has disclosed that “thousands” of potential terror suspects are being monitored every day in the British capital, providing a broad glimpse of the threat of homegrown Islamic extremism against America's staunchest ally.

    Boris Johnson made the comments in an interview published in The Daily Telegraph Saturday, saying “In London we’re very very vigilant and very very concerned. Every day ... the security services are involved in thousands of operations.”

    British intelligence officials believe that approximately 500 British citizens have traveled to the Middle East to join the Islamic State terror group, commonly known as ISIS. However, Johnson's comments suggest that the terror threat in the U.K. goes beyond radicals returning to Britain.

    This is a serious problem. So much for a religion of peace.

    Oct 12th, 2014 - 01:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Huh?

    Where did that leap in topic come from?

    Anything to not answer a question, I guess.

    Oct 12th, 2014 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    69
    ...just because it disappeared from the most commented section on the right, doesn't mean the moderator closed it.....Doh!
    ...follow the link or LOOK!!
    http://en.mercopress.com/2014/10/04/mobbing-by-argentine-officials-forces-bbc-top-gear-team-to-flee-to-chile#comment358229

    Oct 12th, 2014 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    71 A Farce

    Forget airframes.

    I asked you what brand of toothpaste you used, and who cooked your breakfast.

    That has nothing to do with classified information or the Official Secrets Act.

    You haven't a hope of convincing anyone you are a US Airman.

    Even “Voice” is too embarrassed to back you up, and rightfully so.

    Do you need to be a Democrat to get a promotion in the US military now?

    Oct 12th, 2014 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    the platforms that you have listed are ones that I work with.
    This is about as much as I wish to divulge:

    says it all really..

    Oct 12th, 2014 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    75
    I don't wear platforms anymore they went out in the 70's.....

    Oct 12th, 2014 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Ha ha,

    Oct 12th, 2014 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Clyde15,

    Are you coming to the MI6 Christmas Party this year?

    I think Ilsen, Isolde, and I, are all going.

    Here's the address:

    http://digilondon.com/mi6-headquarters-sis-building

    Gosh, I hope it wasn't meant to be s secret.

    Oct 12th, 2014 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #71
    No, I have never served in any branch of HM Forces.

    Your secret squirrel reply does not ring true. I have talked with USAF personnel at Mildenhall, Lakenheath and Alconbury from full“bird”Colonels down through ranks to Senior Airmen. They were more than happy to discuss the aircraft in their charge and their duties OTHER than “delicate missions” flown by the SR 71 out of Mildenhall and the TR1-B from Alconbury.

    Forget aircraft, what was your pay grade ? Non contentious.

    #78
    No, I am on a black list due to my rowdy behaviour when I tried to chat up Miss.Moneypenny. Imagine, she said I was old enough to be her Grandfather.
    The cheek of the woman !!!

    Oct 12th, 2014 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Troy

    If you're going to do your photocopier trick again, please don't push Scan>Email All this time.

    There's an email I don't want to wake up to again.

    Oct 12th, 2014 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @78
    Obviously it will be a 'Masked' Ball. No names, no pack drill, all very incognito.
    ;-)

    Oct 12th, 2014 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    80 Agent “Under”

    Ha ha !!
    Sorry about that, but that's not what I meant when I said “I wanted to spread my maker's image around a bit” last Christmas.

    Must have been the 'clever' lads down in Q Branch.

    Never mind, you're going to be there this year, aren't you? You can send your own 'greetings'.
    I bet US A Farce would like one. He wants to belong.

    Oct 13th, 2014 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Fury over Madrid’s ‘Gibraltar’ veto tactics ‘threatens Spain’s UN Security Council bid’
    http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=34777

    she’s at it again,
    And I feel I must repeat it again,

    Spain will do and say what it wants, when it wants, and to whom it wants, until it is stopped,

    Once again the impression it shows seems worst than the bite, and the British seem to give the impression that it does nothing to defend against these outrageous claims,

    Just saying like.
    .

    Oct 13th, 2014 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    83 Briton

    Great article - thanks for the link.

    With respect, though, if I read it correctly, it seems to say that Britain IS doing something about Spain.

    There appearz to be recognition from other UN parties and Brussels that Britain's complaints about Spain are real.
    Britain has acted by calling Spain out. This has led others to look upon Spain as a 'loose cannon' whose private disputes will take precedence over all other critically important Council resolutions or actions.

    Spain has lost credibility by her own actions, and Britain is doing their best to have them sidelined from anything important.

    At the least, it's humiliating for them, and they are placed on the defensive.

    That's how it looks from here.
    Is there anything more to this story?

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Troy US Air Farce did not respond to any of my questions. I wonder if he knows the color of the passes to get on a US base? They remain the same.

    Well US Air Force?

    Tobi needs to stick to one idiot at a time

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • US Air Force

    Clyde - sorry, too much information has already been put out there. I am quite surprised that you had access to that many people of varying ranks, must have been a while ago. That would place you in a time period where opsec wasn't as important and you are probably some vendor or UK contractor. You can look this one up. The Mexican Mafia in Ciudad Juarez regularly bribes the internet provider to produce both the ip address and the physical address and then takes a quick to the physical address to take care of business on anyone not posting what they like. Large commercial companies have internet bots that scour it in it's entirety for key words and are able to identify the user every day. People who ask me too many questions regarding my endeavor are usually turned in.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    84 Troy Tempest
    Not yet,
    But they apparently need our help at the UN,
    /////////////
    Margallo confident in UK support for UN Security Council
    http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=34785
    ///////
    Here is the main page, I look at daily.
    http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=34785

    .

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #86
    No, I was neither a vendor or UK contractor.
    Go to any air show in the UK frequented by USAF aircraft and personnel...for instance Waddington and the RIAT at Fairford. Aircraft from the USAF are on the static displays along with their pilots and crews....including ground crews.
    They are more than happy to discuss their aircraft, their bases and duties, this side of any official secrets. Some of the large transports are open to the public to look around. All the personnel have their name tags on the uniforms.
    You are some different animal ? The Mexican Mafia will come and get you at a guarded USAF base because of what !!!!!!
    You are getting more and more ridiculous in your statements.
    Captain Poppy is in fear of his life because he could name the bases he worked at and his rank?
    “ People who ask me too many questions regarding my endeavor are usually turned in”
    I presume from this that you are Tom Cruise's opo. in Mission Impossible..

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    84 Troy Tempest
    See current edition of mercopress..

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #86 there is something I almost forgot.....opsec.....really, you are active duty and that is the first acronym you put out. When I was active I couldn't take a breath without an acronym sliding of my tongue.......you;“active” and that is would you can google?

    Do you know FTA and PFM? This one transcends all branches BOHICA

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    This US Air Farce is getting more and more ridiculous with every post. And sounding more and more familiar to one of his previous characters here.
    What a total waste of space.
    I challenged him early on and he soon stopped engaging with me once I pointed out I recognised his MO from previous posts under a different name.
    Just don't bother yourselves with him!
    He is a real bottom-feeder who only thrives by your attention.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    89 Briton,

    Thanks for the links.

    And, I'll check MP agsin !

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • US Air Force

    91- huuuhhh? only one poster here...Me thinks that you have been around sheep too long and caught something. You know they can cure it with a shot. Ignoring PTSD sufferer as of now, he said he wanted to meet in BA. sicko.

    Oct 15th, 2014 - 01:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Ilsen..........the lab at the camp is trying to think outside the box. The posting is going to get more bizarre and the characters more colorful (in their minds) as they slide closer to the abyss. I dread my next trip to the fatherland, but the exchange rate will be great......better already than my June trip.

    Oct 15th, 2014 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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