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HMS Iron Duke and Ice Patrol HMS Protector coincide in South Georgia
The Royal Navy HMS Iron Duke on Atlantic Patrol Tasking south berthed this week in South Georgia for a few days where she also met with Ice Patrol HMS Protector which arrived at the islands on her deployment to Antarctica, after battling hurricane force winds and 24 meters waves. Read full article
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Oct 09th, 2014 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0yep, seems fine to me,
keep up the good work chaps and watch out for plastic penguin's they may be watching.
chuckle..
@1
Oct 09th, 2014 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And all along I thought they were nuclear penquins, ( or at the very least nuclear powered )
The Royal Navy goes EVERYWHERE. It has fantastic capabilities. Its ships float. Its submarines submerge. And stay submerged indefinitely. Making their own drinking water and oxygen. Rising to an appropriate depth to torpedo. Surveillance capabilities as well. Monitoring anything electronic. Argie phone calls are quite funny. Then the cruise missiles.
Oct 09th, 2014 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@3 Luv your thought process LOL
Oct 09th, 2014 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0HMS Iron Duke (F234)
Oct 09th, 2014 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Armament:
Anti-air missiles:
1 × 32-cell Sea Wolf GWS.26 VLS canisters for 32:
Sea Wolf missiles (range 1-10 km)
Anti-ship missiles:
2 × quad Harpoon launchers
Anti-submarine torpedoes:
2 × Twin 12.75 in (324 mm) Sting Ray torpedo tubes
Guns:
1 × BAE 4.5 inch Mk 8 naval gun
2 × 30mm DS30M Mk2 guns, or, 2× 30mm DS30B guns
2 × Miniguns
4 × General purpose machine guns
Aircraft carried:
1 × Lynx HMA8, armed with;
4 × Sea Skua anti ship missiles, or
2 × anti submarine torpedoes
or
1 × Westland Merlin HM1, armed with;
4 × anti submarine torpedoes
I suspect this has more offensive capablility than the entire seaworthy Argentinian Naval Forces.
The Peoples of the Falklands and the scientific researchers on South Georgia are well protected.
Argentine destroyer,
Oct 09th, 2014 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 01,000 tons, what’s left above water?
3 water pistols,
Carries 7 rubber torpedoes,
3, tons of seawater below,
4 water pumps
1x1 toy helicopter,
2 more on order…lol
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Anybody living in the Islands that can provide me with info on Hotels please let me know . I'm planing a trip to visit and that's the only piece missing . I appreciate any help on this matter . thanks
Oct 09th, 2014 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 03 Conqueror
Oct 09th, 2014 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The Royal Navy goes EVERYWHERE. It has fantastic capabilities. Its ships float. Its submarines submerge”
The rg submarines submerge as well you know.......................... It's just that they don't come back up again afterwards!!! LOLz
You could actually say that about it's surface fleet as well, couldn't you?
Wow!
Oct 09th, 2014 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Two RN ships in the entirevSouth Atlantic.
How's that for provocation?
#9 RC
Oct 09th, 2014 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Two floating and self propelled Argentinian warships is impressive for we South Americans as well...
...The Argentine navy does have a better officers mess...
@3 .
Oct 10th, 2014 - 03:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Last year a Russian cruiser came nosing in about Scotland's NE side, The Moray Firth.
The only Vessel the UK had to send was a type 45 destroyer, - which took 24 hours to get there from Plymouth.
The UK does not have a Navy worth speaking about.
Why do they try to tell us Scots we will die without the massive RN?
the RN is nothing today, and it doesn't have to be.
#11, Remind me when did Russia last invade British Territory?
Oct 10th, 2014 - 07:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Certainly not in the last 33 years.
The Russian warship was well within operational range of the Typhoons and Tornadoes so little to concern us.
The trolls/malvinistas are conspicuous by their absence.
Oct 10th, 2014 - 08:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Los “trolls/malvinistas” brillan por su ausencia.
11 EscoSes 45 Doido (#)
Oct 10th, 2014 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The UK does not have a Navy worth speaking about.”
Submarines:
HMS Astute (S119)
HMS Ambush (S120)
HMS Torbay (S90)
HMS Trenchant (S91)
HMS Talent (S92)
HMS Triumph (S93)
HMS Vanguard (S28)
HMS Victorious (S29)
HMS Vigilant (S30)
HMS Vengeance (S31)
Amphibious warfare ships
HMS Albion (L14)
HMS Bulwark (L15)
HMS Ocean (L12)
Destroyers and frigates
HMS Daring (D32)
HMS Dauntless (D33)
HMS Diamond (D34)
HMS Dragon (D35)
HMS Defender (D36)
HMS Duncan (D37)
HMS Argyll (F231)
HMS Lancaster (F229)
HMS Iron Duke (F234)
HMS Monmouth (F235)
HMS Montrose (F236)
HMS Westminster (F237)
HMS Northumberland (F238)
HMS Richmond (F239)
HMS Somerset (F82)
HMS Sutherland (F81)
HMS Kent (F78)
HMS Portland (F79)
HMS St Albans (F83)
Mine countermeasure vessels
HMS Ledbury (M30)
HMS Cattistock (M31)
HMS Brocklesby (M33)
HMS Middleton (M34)
HMS Chiddingfold (M37)
HMS Atherstone (M38)
HMS Hurworth (M39)
HMS Quorn (M41)
HMS Penzance (M106)
HMS Pembroke (M107)
HMS Grimsby (M108)
HMS Bangor (M109)
HMS Ramsey (M110)
HMS Blyth (M111)
HMS Shoreham (M112)
Patrol vessels
HMS Mersey (P283)
HMS Severn (P282)
HMS Tyne (P281)
HMS Clyde (P257)
HMS Archer (P264)
HMS Biter (P270)
HMS Smiter (P272)
HMS Pursuer (P273)
HMS Blazer (P279)
HMS Dasher (P280)
HMS Puncher (P291)
HMS Charger (P292)
HMS Ranger (P293)
HMS Trumpeter (P294)
HMS Express (P163)
HMS Example (P165)
HMS Explorer (P164)
HMS Exploit (P167)
HMS Tracker (P274)
HMS Raider (P275)
HMS Scimitar (P284)
HMS Sabre (P285)
Survey and Antarctic patrol
HMS Echo (H87)
HMS Enterprise (H88)
HMS Scott (H131)
HMSML Gleaner (H86)
HMS Protector (A173)
HMS Endurance (A171)
Plus the small matter of more 4 or 5 more Astute-class submarines
And TWO Aircraft carriers being built.
#12
Oct 10th, 2014 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Russian warship was well within operational range of the Typhoons and Tornadoes so little to concern us.
All they could do is go and say hello !!
The UK has been utterly abandoning the field of air-launched anti-ship missiles, and with the demise of the Nimrod MRA4 currently the UK has NO air platform at all which could employ anti-ship missiles against enemy vessels. Trying to sink a warship with laser-guided bombs is not really going to work without several planes being lost to the enemy air defence: the UK lost ships in the Falklands to bombs, but we should not forget how many argentine planes went down in flames to launch those bombs. And they were facing missile systems obsolete and primitive (Seacat) or still full of flaws and limitations (Sea Dart with its near incapacity of hitting anything flying low) that only years later would have been truly mitigated, or new and modern but still affected by teething problems (Sea Wolf). No one of us today would like to be ordered to get close to a Type 23 to drop bombs on it, with the levels of efficiency that the Sea Wolf has reached, and ships such as the Type 45 would cause a decimation in any formation of planes coming in heavy with bombs. Falklands, luckily, the torpedoes of HMS Conqueror were enough to send the argies back in port before the task force was put before the trouble of finding a way to deal with the 25 De Mayo and its escorts…) but I think this is not nearly enough. Even the Royal Navy SSNs do not have anymore a sub-launched anti-ship missile after the Sub-Harpoon was retired, so they’d need to repeat the HMS Conqueror feat and come real close to their targets in a war, and the Type 45 is all but bare of anti-ship missiles.
Lifted from UK Armed Forces Commentary.
Did I mention Submarines? Just wondering how many of them were shadowing the Russian vessel, unseen and silent.
Oct 10th, 2014 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why do you think Argentina bangs on all about Nuclear Submarines in the South Atlantic, on purposely confusing Powered with Armed.
The Argies and other know full well what damage Conventionally armed Submarines can do.
@7
Oct 10th, 2014 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.falklandislands.com/section.php/12/1/browse_accommodation
Last year a Russian cruiser came nosing in about Scotland's NE side, The Moray Firth
Oct 10th, 2014 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We can assure you,,,
HMS ?? submarine was shadowing,
sshhhhh blogs have ears..
@12 Zathras - It's not quite an invasion, but the most pathological bit of stupidity in a naval fleet has to be the Dogger Bank Incident of 21-22 October 1904, where the Imperial Russian Northern Fleet was on it's way to reinforce their Pacific fleet in their minor war with Japan managed to mistake 48 trawlers from Hull (and each other) for a surprise Japanese ambush (the surprise being that it was in the North Sea, thousands of miles overland from Japan.
Oct 10th, 2014 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It left one trawler sunk, four more damaged, three British fishermen dead, six wounded along with two Russians caught in the crossfire.
It also very nearly lead to an Anglo-Russian war (which the diplomats were able to avert) and the fleet being denied passage through Suez, meaning that by the time that they'd made it round the Cape of Good Hope and all the way to Vladivostok the fleet that they were reinforcing had been pretty much wiped out, which is also what happened to them when the Imperial Japanese Navy got to them.
And look what story just appeared:
Oct 10th, 2014 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Steel was cut today for the first of 3 new Royal Navy offshore patrol vessels (OPVs) at a ceremony in Glasgow.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/first-steel-cut-on-new-patrol-ships
So add:
HMS Forth,
HMS Medway and
HMS Trent
to the earlier LONG list.
#17
Oct 10th, 2014 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you so much !
This is nothing compered to what the Royal Navy was.
Oct 10th, 2014 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But still the 3rd largest blue water fleet on the planet
Oct 10th, 2014 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#15
Oct 10th, 2014 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“the UK has NO air platform at all which could employ anti-ship missiles against enemy vessels.” I thought our Frigate/Destroyer based helicopters are armed with anti-ship (and anti-submarine) missiles?
#24
Oct 10th, 2014 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The reply was in the context of AIR SUPPORT and attack. The statement was that they were in range of Tornados and Typhoons which no longer have an anti-shipping ability. I know of NO helicopter strike capability based at Lossiemouth.
22 EscoSes 45 Doido
Oct 10th, 2014 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is nothing compared to what the Royal Navy was
Well lets be fair here, nothing is as it once was,
The Royal Navy at its height was I think over 1,000 ships,
Royal Navy Today.
As of 28 August 2014, there are 77 commissioned ships in the Royal Navy, plus 13 commissioned ships of the Royal Fleet Auxiliary (RFA); there are also four Merchant Navy ships available to the RFA under a private finance initiative.
. The total displacement of the Royal Navy is approximately 362,000 tonnes (797,000 tonnes including the Royal Fleet Auxiliary and Royal Marines).
USA Today
290 ships[3]
10 aircraft carriers
9 amphibious assault ships
10 amphibious transport docks
12 dock landing ships
22 cruisers
62 destroyers
10 frigates
4 littoral combat ships
72 submarines
The U.S. Navy has identified a need for 313 combat ships, but under the current plans will only be able to afford 232 to 243.[56] In March 2014
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Now we aint that far of the biggest in the world are we..
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What's happened to our Commander from Dover? Even a good naval story like this can't get him to post any more. I think he's lost his voice.
Oct 11th, 2014 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0@25 Clyde
Oct 11th, 2014 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0I can't understand why the excellent Sea Eagle was just allowed to die out-this should still be an option with an anti ship RAF squadron.
Certainly in my view although the main problems with the Nimrod MR4's were that the wings were originally all different and didn't always marry up-there were still about 5 that were converted and should in my opinion been operated, even if only 5.
To the Scottish posters on here, talking down our country and navy. You had a choice last month to buggar off, but you bottled it, so just SHUT UP!!
Oct 11th, 2014 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We have had two years of listening to your self-indulgent whining and I for one am utterly disinterested in listening to a single word that you people have to say any more.
Our navy was most certainly neglected by the labour party, everything was, including the economy with two Scottish Prime Ministers (one of which unelected) and two Scottish Chancellors that put us in more debt than ever seen before.
But things are finally changing and now we are a predominantly right-wing nation, our navy will soon be a global force to be reckoned with (I already think it is). You should be thankful that they are still built north of the border, if I had my way it would be Portsmouth.
So lets start being proud of our country again and being proud to be British.
AGREED
Oct 11th, 2014 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0English, Scottish, welsh, northern Irish,
Channel isle ,
Your fighting forces-be proud of them..
HMS Queen Elizabeth - The Future of the Royal Navy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8SRyFnclGI
New British aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth to be world's second largest supercarrier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8SRyFnclGI
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Taranis Unmanned Combat Air Vehicle (UCAV) First Flight [1080p]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8SRyFnclGI
British Military Power Demonstration | 2014 | HD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8SRyFnclGI
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Most Feared Weapons Of British Military. Royal Army, Navy And Air Force
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8SRyFnclGI
British Military Power | The British Are Coming | 2014
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8SRyFnclGI
//British Special Forces SAS Documentary - Operation Barras
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8SRyFnclGI
A T-45 Destroyer would be an excellent- and needed- deterrent in the South Atlantic area. To frighten international brigandage in those waters.
Oct 11th, 2014 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
#30
Oct 11th, 2014 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The snag being that Britworker believes England and Britain are synonymous.
Anywhere he has a chance to put in an anti Scottish sentiment, out it pops.
“We have had two years of listening to your self-indulgent whining and I for one am utterly disinterested in listening to a single word that you people have to say any more.”
You people ! I presume that you are including all the Scots in the British Armed Forces ? As I said above !
At least I see you use the word disinterested which means impartial and free of bias. Doesn't quite agree with the rest of your statement.
#29
Oct 12th, 2014 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Despite using the handle “Britworker” you seem to be completely ignorant of the UK, or at least its politics.
“Our navy was most certainly neglected by the labour party,”
- During this term of course defence spending fell, like virtually every other developed country (to further reflect the end (or pause) of the cold war); however Labour did approve the construction of the beautiful Type 45s and QE class aircraft carriers.
”... everything was, including the economy with two Scottish Prime Ministers (one of which unelected) and two Scottish Chancellors.”
- Two of those are the same person.
- The additional debt was almost entirely accrued was under an English Chancellor.
- No prime minister of the UK is elected to the position (except by the MPs of their party and/or members of the party/trade unions).
- Under Labour (1997-2008) our economy grew faster than any comparable economy (e.g. France, Germany), our unemployment was also lower: (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13361930). Do you disagree with this?
- To blame Labour for the extent of the financial crisis and global recession is singularly stupid. Our suffering is due to the over reliance on the financial sector, largely driven by Thatcherite policies in the 80s which emphasised financial service sector growth at the expense of manufacturing.
“ that put us in more debt than ever seen before”
- Certainly not in real terms.
- The Conservative led coalition has accrued more debt.
@32 & 33
Oct 12th, 2014 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We will have to agree to disagree. If you think I'm the only Englishman that feels resentful about that whole referendum episode you better open your eyes and ears, because I'm not. I think the Scots are selfish, self-indulgent and childish. It's all about what 'you want' and what 'you can take' and 'you're oil'
Selfish and self-absorbed.
32 Clyde15
Oct 12th, 2014 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you lost me Clyde..
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we are the UK ..
#34
Oct 12th, 2014 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So you think 5 million Scots are self indulgent , selfish and childish.
So you have talked to everyone up here and know their opinions - bully for you.
If I was as narrow minded as you then I could make equally fatuous generalisations about the English.
Your problem is that you are not British - you are English and think that the English point of view is the only one worth having. Anyone who disagrees with it is by definition not British and resents anyone else on our little island who does not think in the same right wing way.
The referendum has done England good. It has now opened up the debate about devolving powers to England to work on their own problems such as the concentration of power and wealth in the London area and the S.East, leaving the North to twiddle their thumbs and beg for crumbs.
You get fed up hearing about Scotland, we get fed up hearing about Billions to be spent on a high speed rail link to Birmingham -no use to us.
London Transrail -no use to us
New runways or airports at London- no use to us
Headlines about schooling in England- nothing to do with us
Etc., Etc.
RN Ships
“You should be thankful that they are still built north of the border, if I had my way it would be Portsmouth.”
Don't you realise that there are Englishmen working for Bae in the Clyde yards .
This just confirms that you do not believe in a British Nationality which includes Scotland.
#32
All I was trying to say-probably not successfully -was that 55% of Scottish voters
voted NO for the break up of the UK.
Britworker ignores this totally and starts slagging off the whole population of Scotland
#34 #36
Oct 13th, 2014 - 07:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0I believe a decent fraction of those who voted yes, did so out of selfishness, or worse, misguided nationalism. However, at least 55% didn't and I honestly believe the referendum will ultimately lead us to a better union, hopefully a federal UK where the home nations are also joined by the BoTs (practically I'd like to see establishment of an English Parliament and a UK senate, the latter with the BoTs invited to send representatives).
“We will have to agree to disagree.”
About the motives of Scotland, yes. About the other things, maybe. I know it's hard for right wingers to acknowledge that Labour actually managed the economy well prior to 2008, but they undoubtedly did. Did they make mistakes? Of course they did. Should they have sold the gold? Obviously not in hindsight. Should the Conservatives have privatised everything they could? No, of course not.
Cameron did suggest a united British isle,
Oct 13th, 2014 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0this may well be worth looking at, as it could [as some of you have suggested,]
included all islands or other nations that wish to be British, in the general sense,
thus including all 16 BOTS, it may well work, and make us better,
as for the SNP,
what I worry abt is, are they, or have they been got at by a higher authority,
THE EU,
don't laugh, its serious, remember Ireland, go back and vote again until you get the result [WE ] want,
now look at the referendum, already the SNP are dealing behind the backs, if the british get a referendum on the EU, they SNP will demand another referendum vote,
if the SNP get more devolved powers they may and will use these to gain independence by the back door,
this sounds like political EU induced corruption to me, but of course I may have totally read it all wrong,
The EU want to divide and conquer,
thus we must remain united of face the consequences,
just opinion only..
Brit and Clyde - do I see a chink missing in the UK armor?? Am I to understand that the Scots are not as valued a soldier than a Brit and there should be caveats to their service and loyalty?? Any Irish people care on chiming in....the real power behind the US is our unity. Same language, same Judeo Christian values and above all loyalty. You Brits or whatever have a bigger problem, its called jihadi al britani.
Oct 14th, 2014 - 03:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0#39
Oct 14th, 2014 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0IF you were an American, then I would answer that phony question, but as an Argie Troll whose main remit is to cause dissension I will ignore the bait until you can supply definitive proof of YOUR USAF credentials. I note that you continually side step this one by changing the subject.
Agreed..
Oct 14th, 2014 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The term British refers to the people of the United Kingdom and their dependencies etc....Not just the English.
Oct 16th, 2014 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Britworker thinks the English have a superior Britishness than other Brits and they should make all the decisions for the rest of Britain.
Funny....you are a Northerner and as such are prone to the derision and jokes of the Southerners....
..and in turn you deride the folk North of you....
It reminds me a bit of the Two Ronnies and John Cleese sketch....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2k1iRD2f-c
#39
Oct 16th, 2014 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I had been pondering over your opening sentence and I then remembered reading the exact same words from Stevie or one of that ilk about two years ago.
Further proof of your credentials.
The problem is their are 60 million in England 5 in Scotland 3 in Wales and 1 and a bit in NI so the three other countries have less populatin than greater London.
Oct 16th, 2014 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Act of Union 1707
Oct 16th, 2014 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Acts of Union, passed by the English and Scottish Parliaments in 1707, led to the creation of the United Kingdom of Great Britain on 1 May of that year. The UK Parliament met for the first time in October 1707.
http://www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/evolutionofparliament/legislativescrutiny/act-of-union-1707/
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Acts joined the Kingdom of England and the Kingdom of Scotland (previously separate states with separate legislatures, but with the same monarch) into a single, united kingdom named “Great Britain”.[
BRITISH..FULL STOP…BRITISH…
http://www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/evolutionofparliament/legislativescrutiny/act-of-union-1707/
All for one--And one for all..
39
Oct 16th, 2014 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is that you Stevie...??
Welcome back....drop the disguise and we'll make mincemeat of all these Troll puppets like we used to...a pincer attack....
...take no prisoners...;-))
39
Oct 16th, 2014 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0imposter...
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