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Mercosur finally agrees: unified number plates for new cars beginning 2016

Thursday, October 9th 2014 - 06:08 UTC
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The five full members of the Mercosur trade bloc will use unified number plates for their 0km vehicles starting in 2016, Argentine Foreign Minister Hector Timerman announced on Wednesday from San Martín Palace in Buenos Aires city. Read full article

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  • gordo1

    Jeremy Clarkson and the BBC can supply all the plates that are needed! The police in Tierra del Fuego have just discovered more of them.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/top-gear/11148267/Jeremy-Clarkson-in-new-row-over-bellend-number-plate-in-Falklands-Porsche.html

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 06:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Apparently they are going to have a lottery as to who will get licence plates with the following letters FU 982 CK, JC 014 RM and JM 014 JC can't wait must come surely. Not sure what TIMMERMAN has to do with licence plates but Heho

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 06:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    What a useless organisation - they can't do what they are supposed to have been doing for years, set up a trading arrangement that works.

    Meetings meetings meetings, and free trips, but all they can do is propose a common licence plate for Merco-countries.

    It's like couch potatoes who buy matching football jerseys or expensive Addidas gym outfits, just to hang out at Starbucks with their pals

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 06:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    ' aiming at fighting organized crime in the sub-continent.'
    How did India get drawn into this?
    Or has SA lost its continent status along with everything else?

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussiesunshinee

    well done MERCASUR!! youare heading in the right direction.......!!!!

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    6 ASS

    Silly post.

    At least spell MercOsur correctly.

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    6 toy
    you are not too bright, are you?
    mercasur= merca (try to find what it means in lunfardo) + sur (south).
    what a nabo you are, lol.

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @ 7
    Google Mercasur and then google Mercosur and let us know what you find out You nabo LOL

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussiesunshinee

    Merco or Merca..doesn´t matter one bit how it is spelt.The important thing is that South America is uniting in one voice and THAT IS THE GOOD NEWS!!!!

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @9 shineeaussie sun
    Course it matters if someone says it is wrong. Accept the fact that the Nabo @7 got it wrong. That is the trouble with SA countries they will never admit they were wrong. Uniting with one voice, they are number plates for fucks sake not the beginning of a new eraPMSL

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Well, this seems to be the only thing that Mercosur has achieved in years!

    Remember no plates across East coast nations with either an 8 or a 2.

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Ha ha, the Peronist Trolls, TTT, El nino, ASS,

    “We hate the EU... ”

    Now they want to emulate the Euro-plates !

    Too bad they can't emulate the €uro currency

    :-D

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Who's going to sell (Give them) the APNR technology, let me guess.

    The Chinese.

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @13
    Sorry it is ANPR ( Automatic Number Plate Recognition) but they would not have thought that far ahead. I am waiting to purchase FU 982 CK and than sell it to Jeremy Clarkson or the BBC.

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Whoops sorry. ANPR bloody thing hate it.

    Pre 1974, if we wanted to check on the R O of a vehicle, out of hours, one of the guys would have to drive to Town Hall, knock up the night watch man, go to the Vehicle Registation Office and pull a card from a filing cabinet, from a mile of them. Out of county you were buggered. A telex to all counties , a result within 24 hours for a routine check was the norm.

    In 1975 The PNC came on line and we could R O details over RT in seconds, but only for vehicles registered from 1973 onwards.

    When I retired, everything was on there in seconds, previous owners etc, Driving licence, previous addresses and tax details are held, not to mention pre cons and intelligence, tax discs and producers are not needed any more. That's one country in forty years of development.

    There's not a chance in hell, that that four different sovereign countries, will be able to share R O details, let alone anything ese.

    So how is this going to help in the fight against organised crime? For starters I would bet my pension the data is not held on a central computer.

    All this will do is that hide the originating nation of criminal activity, it means the buggers do not have to change plates when they cross borders. It makes it easier for them.

    It's a con to make Mercosur look like a bull with balls it does not have!

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @15 There is a camera on a pole near you, as of the oct1 no need to display your DVLA licence as everything now is electronic, can tell in seconds whether you hold Insurance, vehicle licence, Mot etc. HeHo thats progress.

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Anybody noticed that four of the Mercosur countries have IDENTICAL layour, delineated by the ID plaque on the LHS which is also capable (by the look of it) of showing the 'department' or county.

    Guess which one does NOT conform to the pattern?

    Ha, ha, ha! YES, it's The Dark Country as usual.

    What I want to see more than common plates (except the argies) is the charging of vehicle tax for those bastards from across the 'Plate who keep their car here but never regularise it with the Intendencia and pay the annual fee.

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @15

    No mate, they are not on poles. Speed cameras, digital buggers now, down loaded yes. Not PNC, it's governed by data protection. You always have to give a reason over the air why you want the information, stop, follow, offence, evidence, arrest, pre cons, etc.

    Two or three months later, you will get an envelope from PNC with 20 or 30 questionnaires for some of the checks you made and you have to explain on each one, why you wanted the information. Three up 2am in morning, circulated following crime, sus drink driver, road traffic offence, used by known offender, con and use regs etc, etc, etc.

    There is no big brother, your accountable, abuse it, kiss goodbye to your pension, abuse it for gain, make sure you keep your ass against the wall in your new home!

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    My understanding is that most police cars in the UK now carry ANPR equipment and will ping when a suspect car has either no insurance, no road tax no mot and could quite possibly have a marker on it. So the police can stop any person in a car and confirm that they have all the neccessary documents.

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    I retired on the 4th of July, 2007 Independence Day. After 35 years Military and Civil Service.

    All I can say is that we did not have it then and I don't think they have it now.

    Everything you need to know can be ascertained via radio. If you have doubts, pull the bonnet, check the VIN plate on the chassis, windscreen and interior floor under carpet on drivers side or wherever, control will tell you where it's located depending on Make and model. Even then, key in the ignition? Windows intact? Driver matches vehicle? What's a scruffy 16 year old doing driving a £30.000 car.

    As for the old paper tax discs, most people could tell you when it was taxed till, but only those who bought it, could tell you, where they bought it. Speak to the guy, girl in the car, bugger document offences, is it stolen?

    Why would you want to send a lot of money on unnecessary, complicated equipment, the more shit you have, the more it can go wrong.

    They fitted us with GPS, typical radio transmission, “Your location over.”. My response, “Where do you show us?”. Controls reply, “Half a mile off Skegness in the wash over!”

    Don't believe everything you read, sounds good, but it's not true. The datas held on a computer, simple as that!

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 20 reality check

    This IS a police site. Notice it says besides being fitted in police VEHICLES... blah, blah.

    It does NOT say what type of vehicle it is fitted in, it could be an unmarked van like they use in Stoke On Trent. I have no idea if they are fitted in County Cars, they won’t be fitted in Panda cars.

    When they first used it about 10 years ago I think, they had to turn it off after two hours because the leisure park they were using to park the vehicles which alerted the police filled up! They were everywhere.

    I was impressed.

    http://www.police.uk/information-and-advice/automatic-number-plate-recognition/

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Anyway the point I was trying to make was, if they think that by registering all vehicles from four sovereign countries will help fight organised crime, they are wrong. It's going to make it easier.

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Good News!

    South America South America South America South America South America South America South America South America South America South America

    I Love You!

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @23
    Christ you are easily pleased, they are number plates for christ sake not reals, we have these licence plates for years.

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    He just got his delivered ?

    H 982 FKL.

    Now why does that ring bells?

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    We do not want the Falklands. Only it will block.

    You can do everything. Commerce, education, health. Absolutely everything.

    You just can not do with South America.

    “Simples assim”

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BOTINHO

    This is just another example of form following the European Union.

    1. Our old passports were green with BRASIL at the top. The new one I have is EU BLUE, and guess what it states at the top ? MERCOSUL.

    2. Now we have European size license plates introduced that look ..... wait for it ............. like EU plates.

    “ Mercosur is a tool for developing integration. Not only economic integration, but also political and social integration,” Timerman said. ” Not only will I show relativity, but I will show how it relates. ”

    What a stupid unimaginative comment coming from a funny little toad.

    Oct 09th, 2014 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    “The five full members of the Mercosur trade bloc will use unified number plates for their 0km vehicles starting in 2016.........”

    Wow!! One giant leap for mankind!

    Oct 13th, 2014 - 07:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Gollum is assuming the useless Mercsur will still be active by 2016.

    Oct 13th, 2014 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • US Air Force

    9 - Aussie - What you are seeing from the self proclaimed 'Flaklanders' is fear. Fear of SA uniting under the same banner like NATO since Portuguese and Spanish are extremely similar and the Americas, unlike Europe have a 2 century tradition of actually not going to war and killing by the millions each time. I mean really, wtf should these british haters care if a group of countries start organizing.

    Oct 14th, 2014 - 03:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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