MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Madrid's attitude towards Gibraltar could thwart Spain's seat at Security Council
Spain’s separate battles to both become a temporary member of the United Nations Security Council and to also force Britain into bilateral negotiations over Gibraltar appear to be on a collision course, according to a report in the Wall Street Journal. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesoops - the gloves are off and there will only be one outcome.
Oct 14th, 2014 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spain prepare to grovel after the UK has broken your economy, and pushed you out of NATO.
Oh did anyone tell you ISIS wants Spain as part of its caliphate
Bad Spain..
Oct 14th, 2014 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Naughtie Spain
Oct 14th, 2014 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My understanding is that our government told us that they would not hand over any more powers to Brussels without offering the British people a referendum, so i'm not quite sure what's going on here.
Oct 14th, 2014 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With regards to Spain, they don't carry a lot of international clout really, blocking deals is likely to upset more countries than just us. I'm not sure that Spain is ready for the security council with such behaviour.
Oh dear,
Oct 14th, 2014 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Looks like someone is going to have to sit on the naughty step for a while........
@4
Oct 14th, 2014 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Indeed. Spain will just end up looking petty.
“In all likelihood a last-minute deal will be done, not least because other member states have all signed up to the agreement with the UK and are just as frustrated that Spain is using an unrelated bilateral dispute to potentially disrupt important EU cooperation on terrorism”
http://openeuropeblog.blogspot.co.uk/
WSJ.
Oct 14th, 2014 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Winner of First Prize for Stating The Bleedin' Obvious...
First Britain opts out of the EU police security then it wants to opt in to certain laws (in fact 32) and not the other 100.At the same time it wants to get out of the EU justice Court and the EU...enough is enough!! well done Spain!! about time it begins to shove its weight around! even if you lose your vote for the security council seat.....
Oct 14th, 2014 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@8
Oct 14th, 2014 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spain 'shoving its weight around'. Lol: we feed you, we nurture you, and this is the thanks we get!
It always makes me smile when I hear some Spanish national extol the vitures and modernity of Spain and its infrastructure, without any self awareness of where the money came from...some thanks indeed!
If Sunshine was a real Aussie then he would know that you THROW weight around and not SHOVE.
Oct 15th, 2014 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not that Spain has much weight to throw around these days. Its economy and population has been shrinking over the past several years. Spain has 200% of Australia's population but on 87% the economic size. Indeed it is about to slip behind South Korea very soon (if not already) economically and then Mexico will overtake it.
Spain doesn't have much to throw around these days. Tantrums are another matter.
-diplomats said member states may think twice about Spain’s position in the UN Security Council “if it allows bilateral disputes to disrupt crucial international cooperation on fighting terrorism-
Oct 15th, 2014 - 05:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0were those threats from UK diplomats? - sounds like good ole brit blackmailing...
@1. I don't see any purpose in spain grovelling. New Zealand is a sensible state and the threat from ISIL will mean everyone will want Turkey onside. Against the ISIL threat, spain has done virtually nothing.
Oct 15th, 2014 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0@4. Quite right. It's pretty good at threatening and shooting at civilians. Not too good at facing an enemy. It plans 130 troops in Turkey and a Patriot missile battery in case of cross-border attacks, but not until after January 2015.
@6. What do you mean 'looking petty'? Spain is petty. I reckon it goes back several hundred years. Spain cannot get used to the idea that Britain overtook it, saved it, wiped the floor with it and is still important. Whereas spain is a nonentity. Just like argieland, it's all about machismo.
@8. The only thing spain, like argieland, has isn't 'weight', it's 'wait'. It's difficult to differentiate between argieland and spain for cowardice and incompetence. Oh, and pettiness.
@11. Yeah, good innit? What we can SEE is spain depending on British tourists, British expat residents, attacking citizens of a British Overseas Territory, having part of its territory economically supported by the same British Overseas Territory, engaging in marine and airborne incursions, endangering human life AND refuelling Russian warships. Time to view spain as an outright enemy. Can't see what spain hopes to gain from a temporary Security Council seat. The UK doesn't have to 'blackmail'. It can just veto anything spain wants to do. Pointless little spain is undoubtedly between The Rock and a hard place.
Spain just lives in the past..
Oct 15th, 2014 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@11
Oct 15th, 2014 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's possible. Another possibility is just what the article says, that in the adult world people get fed up of the same hundreds of years old neurosis being paraded around at every conceivable opportunity, to the detriment of serious business. cf Argentina.
“Spain just lives in the past..”
Oct 15th, 2014 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0says the guy who is ruled by a viceroy elected by a 120 year old queen...LOL
Fact=guy who is ruled by a viceroy elected by a 120 year old queen
Oct 15th, 2014 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have a prime minister- you have a dictator
I have a queen that is well respected in the world=you have a Barbie doll ,
LOL
@16
Oct 15th, 2014 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeh, a barbie doll that got left in front of the fire to melt.
I remember the Foreign Office last year saying that we could really hurt Spain if we wanted to, there will come a tipping point where we will have had enough i'm sure. It would probably have happened sooner if they weren't so damned inconsequential.
You can see where the argies get their inferiority complex from: the 'homeland'.
Oct 15th, 2014 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Paul - you nailed them, coming from people who still pay tribute to someone who believes his powers are a God given right, bring back Louis the XIVth and the unicorns. Their decrepit queen doesn't do anything and was a 'pretty face.' Keep on paying Camila Bowles, Fergie, Di and her Arab Lover, Prince Chuck and his filandering...I wonder if Harry is a spawn of Bill Clinton....jajaja, now that is funny.
Oct 15th, 2014 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@19 usaf,
Oct 15th, 2014 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“jajaja”- don't you mean hahaha.
Dumb Argentine troll.
Do be quiet, nostrils, you silly, silly little man.
@15 paulcedron,
Ah our jealous little troll returns.
Whats it feel like, troll, to always be frustrated in your colonial ambitions?
No Argentine Empire for you. lol!
us air force
Oct 15th, 2014 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0spot on, totally agree.
isolde, bebé
i already told you, but again, the last thing i want is a pair of islets in the middle of nothing.
but they belong to argentina, so what can we do about it?
there are a lot of gypsies right now occupýing park lane in london.
i think the islanders can join them, claim the property of that land and voilá, problem solved.
Ah, paulieboy, but you really DO want OUR lslands that DO NOT belong to Argentina, but do belong to us.
Oct 15th, 2014 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry for you
No banana for you.
Aaah I love it.
Oct 15th, 2014 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As 2014 draws to a close, the Queen is still alive and one of the most respected heads of state in the world and shared by 16 countries that refuse to change it.
Gibraltar is still British and there's nothing Spain can do to change it.
Falklands are still British and there's nothing Argentina can do to change it.
Argentina is in recession.
Spain is in a depression.
Britain is growing.
Gibraltar is growing.
Falklands is growing.
Falklands had a successful referendum.
Britain survived a referendum.
Spain is falling apart over a referendum.
“Britain is growing.
Oct 15th, 2014 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gibraltar is growing.
Falklands is growing. ”
wot??
hahaha. good one.
and as far as i know, the imbecile of mas resigned to do the referendum because it was totally illegal.
now he wants an “alternative” to the referendum. lol
it seems the poor thing knows less about constitutions than the islanders
24 Nino,
Oct 16th, 2014 - 03:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0What ever happened to “ the people that live there are the experts - the Scots are experts on Scotch Whisky”?
Falklanders know about their history and sovereignty - La Campora Malvinistas in Salta, do not.
Paul
Oct 16th, 2014 - 03:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0You come from a country where th constitution is regularly upsurped by the army, so based on your logic it is you that has no idea about constitutions.
Mas has not resigned. Why do you keep saying that?
A vote will still happen.
You forgot my full quote:
“Argentina is in recession.
Spain is in a depression.
Britain is growing.
Gibraltar is growing.
Falklands is growing.”
You obviously agreed with me about Argentina and Spain's economic problems.
I just love your rage and jealousy, it really does sustain me on this site.
20 Isolde - you got me now, I have been found out....
Oct 16th, 2014 - 05:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0colour, flavour, harbour, honour, humour, labour, rumour are all mispelled - they should be written color, flavor, harbor....ect
calibre, centre, fibre, goitre, litre, lustre, manoeuvre, meagre are also an English aberration, they should be spelled caliber, center, fiber.....got it?
Btw, when Americans sing, their accents don't change. When Brits sing, it is though they were gay to start with and start sounding like Americans when they sing. Never could understand that one, except if you were Freddy Mercury.
So really, you got me on ja or ha...pfffft....lame.
27 US A Farce
Oct 16th, 2014 - 06:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, Isolde got you - mostly due to your own arrogance and laziness.
Now you limply try to save face by heaping abuse on her.
Yep, that confirms it - Argentine Troll, alright !
English aberration? The clue is in the name of the language. Not an aberration when you consider more English speaking countries use British spelling customs than US spelling customs.
Oct 16th, 2014 - 07:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0“When Brits sing, it is though they were gay to start with and start sounding like Americans when they sing.”
What? You mean they suddenly have great dress sense when they begin singing?
20 A Farce
Oct 16th, 2014 - 07:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0“... filandering... ”????
and wasn't it “STEVIE” who loved to talk about Prince Harry etc. ??
Note, “etc.” and NOT “ect” !
“ect” is an Argie aberration.
Ja ja ja ....
Thanks, Troy.
Oct 16th, 2014 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0usaf(note the lower case, Tobi, or whoever he is, is too stupid to warrant upper case, lol!)
speaks, or writes quite good English, but its the little things that let him, or her, down.
Hes not American, l feel sure about that. Pretty sure that its an Argentine.
You'll notice that he has completely ignored Captain Poppy re his supposed time in the US Airforce.
l didn't know about “ect”, thanks for that.
@29 Anglotino,
usaf thinks that he is a macho man & one of his silly insults is to call someone “gay”.
@19. Poor child. I don't pay 'tribute' and nor do the Falkland Islanders. Perhaps you should stop reading the 'government' script. Research is a wonderful thing. It avoids you looking like a total pillock. Little paulie is just about up to nailing his own foot to the floor. Do you understand the word 'queen'? On the one hand it can refer to a cross-dressing, effeminate poofter. On the other, it refers to a female monarch. How old are your history books and newspapers? Considering that Princess Diana died in 1997. And referring to Her Majesty as 'decrepit' is just unnecessary abuse. Still, considering the corrupt, criminal, mendacious, thieving slag you bow down to, what could we expect to? You have no sense of “class”!
Oct 16th, 2014 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0@21. Why do you refer to a 'pair of islets'? An 'islet', legally, cannot sustain human habitation or economic life of their own. And the Falkland Islands are an archipelago containing 778 islands. All British. Any other bits of the world you'd like to illegally 'claim'. Oh yes, there is, isn't there? That part of Antarctica you were 35 years too late for. I suppose, in due course, we'll have to teach you what a bunch of useless numpties you are. Again. Much better equipped now. What happens when we bomb and missile all your little 'stations'? And you don't have anything that can get there?
@24. And the numpty alludes to something that took place over a year ago, where a group of international observers announced that the referendum was free and fair and executed in accordance with international standards and international laws. Where do you get the 'illegal' bit from? Let's get something straight once and for all. NOTHING that argies 'think', say or do has ANY relevance.
@27. You were close. The U.S. is an aberration. It's just typical 'american' laziness. Can you follow this? English comes from England. A country that has existed for over a thousand years. Theft by something that has existed for less than 240 years. And steals!
We thinks ?
Oct 16th, 2014 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0US Air Force and paulcedron
are conspiring against us all,
how we ever get into conversations with experts like them is beyond me,
perhaps we should just give em everything including the white coats and shut the door after them..
@ 27 US Air Arse
Oct 16th, 2014 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh dear, an argie through and through then as we all thought.
And a spectacularly uneducated one to boot and THAT’S saying something.
Never heard of Noah Webster? A Federalist lacking in personal direction but tangled up in the American Revolutionary War, he more or less single handedly made a decision that, for the sake of bringing stability to what was then a really unstable society, he would remove as far as possible the English influence on what would become ‘American English’ so hated by proper English speakers of any nationality. His now famous Webster’s Dictionary was first published in 1828.
Clearly he could not speak proper English himself due to be taught by his mother and omitted the flavour to words with ‘U’ in them for a start; it all went downhill from there. We have to remember he was born in 1748 in a country riven with feelings of allegiance to the crown or to a new as yet unformed country.
Perhaps the most famous proper English dictionary is that of Samuel Johnson, first published in 1755 and subsequent editions were no doubt plagiarised by Webster along with many other dictionaries, already in print.
But being an argie all you have is the gibber-jabba of Argentine Spanish which is as far away from a modern civilised language as it is possible to get.
The trouble with these trolls, is that they are so desperate to be accepted in the literate world, that they spend all day studying either Wikipedia or any English directory they can find..
Oct 16th, 2014 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And still trip up..chuckle knuckles...
Sorry everyone you are all falling into TTT's trap, he and all his puppets are all here to derail any topic posted here and in that he is successful.
Oct 16th, 2014 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Probably, however we haven't lost sight of the original topic.
Oct 16th, 2014 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just taking time out to show TTT what a real plonker that he is. lol!
On topic. Spain is economically, politically and militarily weak. It is riven by internal social divisions. It's graduates are fleeing to London and Berlin.
Oct 16th, 2014 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gibraltar is a distraction for the uninformed poor from the internecine unrest.
Spain is no real threat to anybody, except itself.
It is not really respected very much by France, Germany, the UK nor the USA.
And that, all my lovely internet people, is all that really needs to be said on this subject.
Ta Ta for now!
♥♥
“Madrid's attitude towards Gibraltar could thwart Spain's seat at Security Council”
Oct 17th, 2014 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0says the 4th class newspaper...
meanwhile, in the real world:
“Spain outpolled Turkey 132-60 in a third round of voting in the General Assembly.”
as i said before, that rock or the islets cannot thwart anything.
the whole world see them as the leftovers of a sad empire.
the sooner they are returned to their real owners, the better.
it is funny that england, the only 3rd world country in europe, still has pretensions of empire.
39 El nino
Oct 17th, 2014 - 02:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a load of tripe.
Did you just want to insult us before bedtime, is that it?
get lost, kid.
34 - Kriz R(hien) - Well now, if it wasn't for us illiterate lazy US people who can not spell words like color or civilized, you'd be 'ole Hans Kraut Oven builders little slave. Or maybe your name would Krizonofski speaking some good 'ole Slavic Russian language. Remember your little British Empire that you built from dismantling the Dutch trade, it is in its last gasps. If you weren't so busy sucking our teets you'd be a little craggly rocky isle of a footnote. We here in the US relish our pragmatic language and don't put on any airs in our speech or pay tribute to any God Given rights such as Prince Harry...
Oct 17th, 2014 - 04:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0@41
Oct 17th, 2014 - 08:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not a big fan of the Royal Family myself, but at least the UK has only got one of them. The US has four: the Bushes, Kennedys, Roosevelts, and Kardasians. But I guess it's a bigger country.
@41 usaf,
Oct 17th, 2014 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Still trying to drive wedge between us & the Americans, l see.
Other Argentine(govt paid)trolls have tried their wedge-driving skills trying to create a rift between the UK & the Falklands(paulcedron's “the poor British Taxpayer”)
Crocodile tears, paulie-boy.
You malvinistas are just so transparent & pathetic.
isolde bebé
Oct 17th, 2014 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0it is “honest british taxpayer”, not poor.
and you are projecting...i guess you are a govt paid troll.
and again, im not interested in anything from the islets, except in you, of course.
Sadly
Oct 17th, 2014 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spain has not its seat at the UN,
A bad day for freedom and democracy,
A good day for arrogant doctorial aggressive Spain.
seems we aint what we pretend to be.
just my opinion.
paulie-niño,
Oct 17th, 2014 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you have absolutely no chance.
Pretty sure that you couldn't stand the pace, anyway, lad.
haha isolde.
Oct 17th, 2014 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you will not be able to resist my porteño glamour, bebé.
but remember, i am not promising exclusivity in this issue.
Choke ..
Oct 17th, 2014 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The term ' “00zes” charm', comes to mind.
Oct 17th, 2014 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 043 - Isolde, you'd be wise to read Henry Kissinger and his thoughts on politics. The US does not have allies (privately and truly of course), only US interests. So while you may believe that we Americans are in love with out British alliance, that could change overnight. You came to rule us with an iron hand in 1776 and then enslave our marine merchants in 1812 and burn half of Washington DC down and even sought to back up a domestic confederacy in the South in 1865. Your beloved Churchill failed to warn the Americans about U2 activity in 1912 around the region of the Lusitannia, just to drag us into the European fray of WWI. WWII, Desert Storm I/II/Shield are a different story, those Krauts were the devil reincarnate. You Brits better take care of your backyard and deal with ole jihadi al Britani before your government is flying some flag with a scimitar and weird writing and then we shall see who is who's ally.
Oct 18th, 2014 - 06:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0@50 faa,
Oct 18th, 2014 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Everything that you say can be discounted because you are not American.
You are fooling no-one you silly RG Troll.
Most of your twisted versions of history are utter hogwash anyway.
lt would be nice to have an intelligent, well informed Argentine here to have a debate with.
But with the exception of a very few, there are none.
ldiota
Gosh. Not for the first time, I find I'm having to revise my understanding of history as a result of your posts. I didn't know for example about the Brits coming to rule you with an iron hand in 1776, I thought they'd been there a couple of hundred years already and the whole point of 1776 was to shake an existing an iron hand off.
Oct 18th, 2014 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0And it truly is a revelation to learn that the Germans had U2s in 1912. Does that mean you guys in the United States Air Force actually got them not from Lockheed, but from Werner von Braun's dad, or something?
It's reassuring as well to know that unlike the UK, you're safe over there from jihadi attacks, though perhaps the citizens of NYC might beg to differ, as indeed would numerous members of the United States military, including those unfortunates shot down by a US Army psychiatrist gone jihadi. But I guess the Air Force couldn't be expected to know about that.
Just one thing. Next time you run into Henry, you might like to amuse him by reminding him that those pesky Brits beat him to the quote by more than a hundred years. “We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual, and those interests it is our duty to follow.” Henry Temple, Viscount Palmerston, speech to the House of Commons (1 March 1848).
This is what happens when you've been around for a while.
I wonder if A_Farce really believes what he writes?
Oct 18th, 2014 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0La Campora must be a really unhappy, misled bunch of fools.
They are all BRAINWASHED,
Oct 18th, 2014 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0once again we brits always get the blame,
Totally BRAINWASHED.
@53
Oct 18th, 2014 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“La Campora must be a really unhappy, misled bunch of fools.”
Of course when 'who ate all the pies' is the only one allowed to eat.
@39 paul-carrion
Oct 19th, 2014 - 12:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Did you read my post @38?
Did you?
Comment removed by the editor.
Oct 19th, 2014 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and Spain makes it to the security council!!!
Oct 19th, 2014 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wall street Journal..who the hell reads this rubbish newspaper!! its fool of s....t!!
and who were the four unnamed ´diplomats´ ..more like wankers!!!
paulcedron, why are you such a nabo?
Oct 19th, 2014 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Many of us read ilsen's posts.
You obviously do or you wouldn't respond.
l think that you are a complete waste of time.
Poltroon.
@58 spanishsunshinee,
Do you really believe the utter nonsense that you write?
Your Marist education didn't help you at all, did it?
isolde bebé naboleta
Oct 19th, 2014 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0well, you shouldn't read his posts
and do not waste our time talking about that loser.
i think we have a lot more interesting things to talk about.
Jeez, why do I bother?
Oct 19th, 2014 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As Simon Bolivar once said “ to try to govern [Latin] America is to plough the sea”.
I am having a similar experience trying to educate the carrion. They all seem dead from the neck up.
@57 obviously you do read them, my little Anglophile Argentweeno.
Have a biscuit, there's a good boy!
*pats head of favoured troll*
51 Isolde - twisted versions of history??? Let's see - from this anonymous academic forum, what have I learned from the English/Falklanders-
Oct 19th, 2014 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The US colonies were not ruled by a British Iron Hand in 1776 (they were, Battle of Lexington proved that one). Some Brit poster here stated that the UK really didn't want to hold on the US, what a load. The US was at fault for 1812 according to posters on this forum (The US Merchant Marines were impressed into British service forcefully). The Brits did not burn the White House, I was informed that it was in retaliation for something in Canada and that the US has a design for a Canuck takeover (yeah, it was more like Brit burned half of Washington DC). Your Brit superstar, Lord Winston Churchill of English Admiralty in WWI had Juno return to some English port to lure the US into WWI.
You Brit/Falkland posters only believe what HM cable tv tells you. It never matters what someone here posts, if it isnt your point of you then it doesn't matter. I just can't quite shove my head that far up my arse to see your point of view....Everything that I post is an American viewpoint and I absolutely believe what I post here.
SOUTH American viewpoint, and we accept that you probably do believe it.
Oct 20th, 2014 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0What does the US War of Independence in 1776 and the War of 1812 between the U.S. and the Canadian Dominion, have to do with Spain interfering with the Self Determination of Gibraltar in the 21st Century?
Back on topic:
The UN Security Council will not be handing any BOT's over to Spain, or Argentina, for that matter.
The way things are going, our allies, the U.S., are likely to take a dim view of Spain interfering with their prevention of terrorism. Probably they'll be more likely to back British interests.
toy
Oct 20th, 2014 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The way things are going, our allies, the U.S....blablabla...”
your allies the u.s.?
allies in what?
we already know that you are not too brilliant, but at least try to get informed properly, you nabo.
lol
“The Obama Administration knifes Britain yet again over the Falklands”
“Obama administration not neutral on Falkland Islands”
“John Kerry: US won’t back UK on the Falklands
NEW US Secretary of State John Kerry yesterday declined to back Britain in the battle with Argentina over the future of the Falkland Islands.”
skaterNino
Oct 20th, 2014 - 01:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't see the US backing Argentina, do you?
The Falklands are British and the law of Self Determination in the UN Charter still stands.
How's that $100b debt thing going?
Job and travel prospects looking good for you?
Not likely.
Can anyone tell me the name of this 'HM cable tv channel' or why a supposed US airmen would use the British slang 'arse' not 'ass' ?
Oct 20th, 2014 - 07:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0@62
Oct 20th, 2014 - 08:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0I was under the impression that the education and training provided by the US Military was second to none, but they seem to have sent you out into the world armed only with a Diploma in Anglo-Satanic Studies from Mendoza Clown College, or similar. (Same class as Tobi, perchance?) In any event you seem to be under the impression that after three centuries the dastardly Brits are still foaming at the mouth at the loss of their colonies in much the same way as certain Malvinistas are still foaming at the mouth over the their failure to seize British islands after two.
In fact, here is what the Chief Villainness HM the Quen has to say about it :
“Two hundred years before that visit, one of my ancestors had played a seemingly disastrous role in your affairs. [Laughter] Yet, had King George III been able to foresee the long-term consequences of his actions, he might not have felt so grieved about the loss of his colonies. Out of the War of Independence grew a great nation, the United States of America. And later there was forged a lasting friendship between the new nation and the country to whom she owed so much of her origins. Our close relationship is not just based on history, kinship, and language, strong and binding though these are. It is based on the same values and the same beliefs, evolved over many years in these islands since Magna Carta and vividly stated by the Founding Fathers of the United States”
Dinner Honoring the President Reagan at Windsor Castle in England .June 8, 1982
Sorry to disappoint, but no rancour there.
You don't seem quite up to speed on the 1812 war either. Didn't you know that the US invaded Canada in 1812? Ask any Canadian. This kind of thing tends to piss people off, there are lots of examples in history. Hitler invaded Poland in 1939, for example, and look what happened after that. And this one's a bit tricky: the Falklands War of 1982 began when Argentina invaded the Falkland Islands. Seriously. Look it up.
@67
Oct 20th, 2014 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fantastic post. All true. Witty too. Troll trounced. Good effort, and a pleasure to read.
Trebles all round please barman.
@68 ilsen,
Oct 20th, 2014 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0l'll drink to that!
Make mine a vodka & strawberry juice, please.
@62 faa,
Don't get your knickers in a twist, but DO swot up on your history please.
You have a very loose grasp on it.
Don't you think that your(not very believable)impersonation of an American has gone on long enough?
Nobody believes you,
Maybe nabolito paulcedron does(could be you are even the same troll?)
Could be but who cares.
stop drinking vodka isolde.
Oct 20th, 2014 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you guys have a serious problem with alcohol, exactly like the english.
shame on you.
“Britain has a drinking problem, and it needs help
Though we spend a fortune on the consequences of excessive drinking, we spend a relative pittance on the causes”
It is obvious that the Obama administration cannot recognise The Falklands/Malvinas. It would be recognising a population of 3000 inhabitants against a population of 200 million in South Americaon which it has trade and bilateral relations.
Oct 20th, 2014 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It would be commiting suicide if it did so, especially with China encroaching politically and economically in South America.
Here comes paulie again, telling Lady Isolde whose posts she can and can't read, telling her off for joking about booze, attempting that old misogynist trick of trying to 'shame' a strong-minded woman.
Oct 20th, 2014 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina has a hubristic problem, and needs help.
Though it owes a fortune from the consequences of excessive squandering, it pays back a relative pittance to its creditors.”
There, fixed that for you.
71 aussie
Oct 20th, 2014 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0spot on
72 ilsen, master of the nabos
now i understand why you guys post so many nonsense in this 4th class newspaper.
too many booze since early morning i see.
do you have any kind of rehab clinics there?
no?
now i understand...
Hey!! a little red wine every now and then does wonders for the body!! LOL LOL
Oct 20th, 2014 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 063 - TT - all of the topics that I used are examples placed here by Mercopress posters from these forums regarding US history. Of course, my rhetoric isn't what gets taught in London obviously, but has a US slant.
Oct 20th, 2014 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 073 - Sr. Cedron, this newspaper is the equivalent of the US 'Fox News' and usually contains the one sided taint. In this case, Mercopress prints anything that paints SA and anything anti Falklander on the front page. Its funny how incredulous these people are to see a US person that is not waving the 'ole Union Jack.
75 A_Farcehole
Oct 20th, 2014 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“63 - TT - all of the topics that I used are examples placed here by Mercopress posters from these forums regarding US history. Of course, my rhetoric isn't what gets taught in London obviously, but has a US slant.”
“...a U.S. slant...”
What does that mean??
You're dreaming. SA Socialist disinformation and propaganda.
Both opposing parties in each case, agree on the published history of events as taught internationally in Universities.
A far different version than what you have concocted to justify your vilification of the U.S./UK.
Any real American wouldn't have a clue the terminology you use, let alone have any idea what you are talking about.
Your version of the U.S. Civil War is just as warped.
You have just shown yourself to be a brainwashed fool, and a fool who has never even been to the U.S.
Please tell us the relevance of the 1776 1812 and 1860's US wars in North America, when we are talking Spain and Gibrsltar in Europe, 200 years later, a dispute between two signees the UN Charter??
There is none, right.
Pure distraction on your part.
@76
Oct 20th, 2014 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why on earth does false flag fake American still keep up this pretence?
Ok. I am asking everyone who posts here one simple question.
Do you think @75 US Air Force is a fraud and is not a US citizen?
Yes/No
If anyone thinks he is genuine, please explain why.
@68, @69
Oct 20th, 2014 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for the kind words.
@70, @74
Yourself and little paulie should have a little snifter every now and again (if you're old enough). You both need loosening up.
@77
Gosh. This is a hard one, though, isn't it?
On the one hand, I think it's fair to note that one or two bona fide American citizens have in the past become jihadis, and I guess it's not beyond the realms of possibility that one might also become an argiehadi. I've not encountered one before, though, and indeed I'm not aware of any other instance of a bona fide non Argentine sharing the ongoing Malvinista outrage that Argentina's rapists, murderers, and mutineers were politely invited to sling their hook off somebody else's islands some two centuries ago. But there's a first for everything I dare say.
And so I thought at one point that he could conceivably be a US citizen, and even a member of the USAF. But that was before he barfed up the entire Malvinista catechism in almost a single barf, not just the 1833 mythology, but the peculiar Argentine notion that history consists of a list of bad things done by Brits, nobody much else involved, and the bilious resentment at the British Empire that exceeds the resentment of anybody who actually was in the British Empire at the time that one existed.
He might have still have been a US citizen at that point, of course, albeit one of Argentine extraction, but where he really blew his stumps off was with his evident glee at the jihadi threat to the UK. As if there wasn't an equivalent if not greater threat to his supposed American homeland, and as if the United States Air Force wasn't heavily involved in trying to counter it. Bit of a career limiting attitude for an American serviceman, I would have thought.
What he really needs is a copy of Think's Manual of Sock Puppetry. Of course he'll still be exposed pretty sharpish, but he might get about a five minute window to congratulate himself in.
Fair's fair though: pretty good English.
A lot of British English, obviously picked up on here.
Oct 20th, 2014 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am waiting for anyone, absolutely anyone, to come along and support him.
Wonder who it will be? Probably his alter-ego.
(Damn it, just given the game-plan away :-)
@72 ilsen,
Oct 20th, 2014 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you for your support.
l imagine paulcedron(known as “shut it cedron”) to his friends, is a pimply faced teenager who sits in his room all day playing computer games.
@77 ilsen,
Hmmmmm, tough call!
Let me think about it for a millisecond, ah no, usaf is NOT American.
He/she/it is a malvinista Argentine.
(cries of “burn the malvinista, burn the malvinista”)--thanks Monty Python.
@70 paulcedron,
Get out of your room & go outside to play, niño.
And stop butting in when the adults are talking.
Go & climb a tree or kick a football.
80 Isolde
Oct 20th, 2014 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whew!!
And I was worried you were falling under the spell of his obvious smarmy charms... !!
Who the Falk does he think he is, the Grande Misogynist, Think??
:-)
77/79 Ilsen - Go ahead and stump the 'Fake' American or the fake 'US Air Force Serviceman' and I promise you a serious detailed 'non googled' answer. If I can answer it, then I will without compromising any type of issues related to my work. You are a female, correct? I will extend to you civility from here on out - As far as needing any anonymous poster to come to my perspective, yeah no, it is a lost cause and I knew it.
Oct 20th, 2014 - 10:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What brand of toothpaste do they issue on base?
Oct 20th, 2014 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Um, still can't answer that one, right?
Official Secrets Act and all that??
*smirks*
83 - tt..Dunno actually, gave all the toothpaste to the Brits so they could fix their teeth...jeejee.... ;) Sorry only for Ilsen.
Oct 21st, 2014 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yup. It's Stevie ! I knew it!
Oct 21st, 2014 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0That would be no surprise.
Oct 21st, 2014 - 03:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0No Stevie Wonder here.
Oct 21st, 2014 - 06:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0@84
Oct 21st, 2014 - 06:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Here endeth the most incompetent impersonation ever.
A truly inspirational and visionary Great Australian leader has died today.
Oct 21st, 2014 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0RIP Cough Whitlam.
Tru fact!
Oct 21st, 2014 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0:)
Cough Whitlam? Talk about proving you ain't an Aussie.
Oct 21st, 2014 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What about Gough Whitlam?
No Australian leader died today. Just an ex-Prime Minster who was sacked.
Anyway, back to Spain where people wouldn't know what an inspirational and visionary leader looks like.
*91
Oct 21st, 2014 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sad words for one who calls himself an Australian!! When the nation and Parliament are mourning a GREAT AUSTRALIAN!! THIS IDIOT COMES OUT SAYING: No Australian leader died today.Just an ex Prime minister who was sacked. WHAT A DEEP SH..........T.!!!
92 ASS.
Oct 21st, 2014 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0give it a rest, please.
The Government is simply following protocol for an ex PM.
Sorry Troll, this one is getting no traction
*93 Exactly! give it a rest as I will no longer waste my time answering a troll like you on this post.......SAYONARA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oct 21st, 2014 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does that mean he has gone?
Oct 21st, 2014 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gone for good?
*** hands round paper party hats and gets ready to open champagne***
Ms. Ilsen,
Oct 21st, 2014 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still waiting for that question miss. Crickets - chirp chirp chirp
I don't think the fake US airman has realised yet, but whilst I may have talked about him, I certainly don't talk TO him.
Oct 21st, 2014 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One must maintain certain standards.
97 ilsen
Oct 21st, 2014 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Farce can't answer even the simplest questions- you're wasting your time to engage him.
No credibility
Actually it would be good policy if NONE of us responded to this usaf troll.
Oct 21st, 2014 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What would his/her/its next incarnation be?
usn, perhaps?
@97
Oct 21st, 2014 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0May the Farce not be with you.
Troy. I no longer engage with him at all.
Oct 21st, 2014 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Isolde. I agree
Hans. Blessed are the cheese makers!
Oh no......I fell sooooo put off with being ostracized. Cyberbullying, boo hoo hoo.
Oct 21st, 2014 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As far as credibility. Using my poster callsign is much more revealing than any of yours. I just can't remember which one of you claim to work in the financial district, to that I give credit. As far as the others are concerned all I can say is I won't engage Hans Stuka Panzer Kristalnacht on principle.
@101
Oct 21st, 2014 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gott in Himmel, Scheiss, und was its das für ein Vixer? He's no longer going to engage apparently. He's stopped being the United States Air Force and now he's going to be the Argentine Navy instead.
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