President Cristina Fernandez addressed the country in a national televised broadcast after Argentina’s first geostationary satellite was successfully launched on Thursday afternoon. The head of state thanked all scientists involved in the construction of ARSAT1, and seized the opportunity to slam opposition representatives over their plans for the country. Read full article
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This is the equivalent of a non driver buying an expensive car to fill a parking space just so they don't lose that parking space.Oct 17th, 2014 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Jealous??Oct 17th, 2014 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Wow, they launch a satellite and KFC feels the need to commandeer state telly and radio to weep with pride at this great news! Finally, Upper Volta has rockets.Oct 17th, 2014 - 09:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
If I could, I'd give them a pat on the head and a lolly pop. Keep up the good work; you never know, in fifty years time you could finally be wearing long trousers.
When was the last UK satellite launch?Oct 17th, 2014 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
I watched her watched the launch on Televu. She grabbed her heart......made me want to puke. Being RG made it may fall from the sky in it's attempt to maintain a geo-stationary orbit....lolOct 17th, 2014 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
#2 we've been doing that ourselves since 1958.....big deal. Try keeping it there and maintaining it. That costs money.
Are you really that daft that you want get into a debate about the comparable space technologies of the UK & Argentina???Oct 17th, 2014 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
@4Oct 17th, 2014 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
I haven't a clue.......but I think you missed my somewhat sarcastic point....well done all the same!
Whoopdedoo, still 200 yrs behind the donkey with comms, but heho whatever rocks your boat.Oct 17th, 2014 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
@4 The first and last purely British satellite on a purely British launcher was in 1971.Oct 17th, 2014 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
After that, the British effort was added into the overall European effort (the Europa and then Ariane family of rockets).
The last launch of a purely UK satellite was STRaND-1, last February, which was a small satellite and so only needed a medium lift rocket rather than the heavy lift that an Ariane would provide. It turns out that the cheapest and most reliable medium-lift launchers are in fact Indian.
@4 Moderately boringOct 17th, 2014 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
2013 STRaND-1 Nanosatellite
2009 UK-DMC 2 British Earth imaging satellite
That is since 2000, I will let you look up the others.
Jealous? The UK don't need to be, I think you are missing the point. It's the circus act that goes along with it.
Well done Argentina on getting a satellite into space, but I thought your President would have had other more important things to attend to than gushing over a satellite. Just another distraction for the masses, just trying to buy time.
last UK satellite launch?Oct 17th, 2014 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Well they happen frequently enough that few give it much thought.
two went up in July 2014:
The difference is; you built yours with your own money, by yourselves. The Argentinian was built from foreign parts, by foreign engineers and with stolen money.Oct 17th, 2014 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
@2. Nope.Oct 17th, 2014 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
@4. brasherboot has given you an answer. However, the first UK satellite (Ariel 1) was put into orbit in 1962. That means you're 52 years behind. Incidentally, as of January 2013, the UK had 30 satellites in orbit.
I hope all the international subcontractors ,that actually built the thing, and the international launch company that sent it up into space, got their money up front rather than on the never never.Oct 17th, 2014 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Welcome to the space age Argentina. You've missed an opportunity though. If CFK had been included in the payload she could have been the first Argentine in space!Oct 17th, 2014 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
All those holdouts and creditors are gonna to go ballistic when they hear about this.Oct 17th, 2014 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
”If I was not elected President, maybe the space program that Nestor started could not have been completed,” Arrogant bitch. And if you had not been elected the country would not be in such a damn mess.Oct 17th, 2014 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
@ 15 HeisenbergcontextOct 17th, 2014 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
She's a bit too big to fit but they could have just put her head in, that would be the same, surely?
Another factor that contributes to the expense associated with satellites is the cost of putting one into orbit. It is estimated that a single satellite launch can range in cost from a low of about $50 million to a high of about $400 million. Launching a space shuttle mission can easily cost $500 million dollars, although one mission is capable of carrying multiple satellites and send them into orbit.Oct 17th, 2014 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
If anyone wonders where the money came from, maybe she wrote a check from her personal account of stolen public funds.
Even the school kids are all talking about it as though Argentina is the greatest country on Earth because they launched a satellite. I don't have the heart to tell them that most countries with the wealth, education, and resources of Argentina have been doing it for 50 years.Oct 17th, 2014 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
@20Oct 17th, 2014 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
I don't have the heart to tell them and therein lies the problem, and the school kids thinking how wonderful Argentina is. They need educating, no good not saying anything , otherwise they won't see the hypocracy of it.
Well Argentina, I extent my hand and say.....welcome......welcome to 1958 when the rest of us have been launching satellites since then.Oct 17th, 2014 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@20 ChrisROct 17th, 2014 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I think even that might be rather a tight fit. Then, of course, the weight of her make-up has to be considered. Hmm...
Argentina launches satellite and Cristina FernandezOct 17th, 2014 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Forget to get inside...lolol
What a waste of money. Their economy is in total collapse, millions of people falling into poverty and starvation and they blow their wad on this.Oct 17th, 2014 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Sounds like N Korea.
Probably IS north Korea,Oct 17th, 2014 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
At least in her looks....lol
Surely Argentina has its priorities wrong! To spend money on a space probe/satellite when people are losing their jobs and hunger goes unabated is not the right thing to do!Oct 17th, 2014 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
sadly it was not a manned spacecraft.Oct 17th, 2014 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
it would have been great to put the yegua, kicillof, de vido and the rest of the imbeciles in that rocket.
Sincere congrats to Argentina.Oct 17th, 2014 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Christina calling Major Tom, can you hear me Major Tom.
CFK thinks she's J-FK,Oct 17th, 2014 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I have a dream...
Cue SpaceNino Pablo...
This is Major Tom to ground control....I'm stepping through the doorOct 17th, 2014 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The way of America is declaring war on North America!Oct 17th, 2014 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The world holds its breath wondering whether Argentina will claim the title of 1st nation to kill a human being due to their satellite falling out of orbit. It's going to happen one day.Oct 17th, 2014 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
UNFORTUNATELY WE WEREN'T WRONG.Oct 17th, 2014 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Althouh i'm very happy for the launching of the geostationary satellite, which is the first in argentina, and it becames the country into the first from latinamerica that can produce this kind of satellites, beside it will join the small group of 8 countries in the world that launch this sort of technolology to the space, however, it doesn't sorprise me, because, science and technology have always represented a too important sector for the policies of kirchnerism.
Nowadays i'm concerned for other issues. Many people who don't like kirchnerism, often accuse us of trying to divide people. However, when i see that some of the candidats from the oppostition say publicly that if they are elected as presidents, they would derogate all those meausures that try to put a limit to economic power, then noboy has to be so smart to realize that what we will choose next year, will be democracy or corporations.
Kirchnerism isn't neather perfect nor revolutionary, in fact it has some too serious falencies, and i have signalized them in many opportunities in this forum, however it has been the best government since 1966, after the fallen of another great man and president like arturo illia, who was broken down by a militar dictatorship, after having refused to cede before the pressures of oil and medical corporations.
Now the country is facing a complicated moment, due to our economy suffered a big deceleration this year, but i would be too inocent if i believed the failed predictions of the i. m.f. for the country, which have failed sistematicly since 2003.
This is not the firts time in 11 years that the country faces a complicated economic moment, in fact, 2009 was even worst that this one, and it could improve perfectly.
Finally it's important to remember that whoever wins next year, it won't be able to dismantle the social achievements that we could get since 11 years, because people have already empowered of them, which is wonderful.
Axel, I hope you took my advice from many years ago and bought laundry detergent to trade when the peso/economy collapses.Oct 17th, 2014 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You'll need it soon
I think Austral Elvis will make some serious trouble for you with his dingbat ideas.
I can't wait!
It usually takes around 5 years for economic policies to feel the full effects. Geez.....I wonder what transpired 4 or 5 years ago that could have caused Argentina to go from a nation of poor to a nation of poor and criminals, including the president who stole and exploited the public. Now Argentina is paying and I hope the shit continues to fall to such a degree that they make wise choices and remove kirchnerites next year. Macri is a level headed man and a logical choice........but the operative word here that can screw his chances is logical.Oct 17th, 2014 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
#32Oct 17th, 2014 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The way of America is declaring war on North America!
Would you care to elaborate on that rather enigmatic statement.
I don't understand it, and the video, what was that for ?
Featuring an AMX ground attack aircraft which is better described as a target in a MODERN European warfare scenario.
@22 Captain PoppyOct 17th, 2014 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I extend my hand and say ...welcome...welcome to 1958, when the rest of us have been launching satellites since then.
A pretty courteous salute, thank you. But an addendum is needed :
...since then, after a two centuries, in the British case; and one, in the American´s, of enthusiastic, unbridled, and unremitting pillage of the whole world´s resources.
Clyde what would you expect from a man (?) who supports his positions via utube?Oct 17th, 2014 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
28@Oct 17th, 2014 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
it would have been great to put the yegua, kicillof, de vido and the rest of the imbeciles in that rocket
What a nasty thing to say, abt your own government,
Perhaps you should volunteer to go on the maiden flight , just to get away from this 4th world site you continually moan abt…
A whole new meaning to [ lost in space ]
#38Oct 17th, 2014 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Thank you for your unbridled praise of two great nations from one still to emerge from under a stone.
Uhm! Satellite of cardboard. Ja !. Soon with the rocket of cardboard Tronador and the satellite of cardboard carton we can observe and break his ass to the okupas. Closer!Oct 17th, 2014 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@42 JoseOct 17th, 2014 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
At least she could have thanked the Europeans for putting the actual satellite in orbit for Argentina.
The rocket was a Ariane 5, built in Europe by the European Space Agency (Airbus really) and launched from their pad in French Guiana.
Anyone with enough money can put a hunk of concrete into orbit if they pay for it.
To be honest, do you have an actual space program if you don't have the technology to actually put anything in orbit?
@40Oct 17th, 2014 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Why is that a nasty thing to say? They deserve being sent into outer space and never return. Cristina, of course, is there already.
CFK not the first Argentinean in space then? I suppose that will be a monkey.Oct 17th, 2014 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
#43 I agree with you. Putting a satellite into near earth orbit is not an entrance into the space club, it merely means that you are finally utilizing the technology that has been available for some time.Oct 17th, 2014 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
In the USA we launch from Cape Canaveral, Wallops Island, Vandenberg and Patrick to name a few....I think 8 locations in all. Until they start launching their own, they are not in the space age. I wonder how many people launch prepaid with a bankers check?
@34Oct 17th, 2014 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The fact is that most of the politicians that want to run for presidency are now facing the issue that CFK, her fanatical followers and the official media stand in front of society with unrealistic fantasies. So discussing and debating about reality is extremely difficult when your opponent is populism.
If inflation, a high crime rate, unemployment, lack of foreign investments, lack of reserves don't exist...about what are they going to discuss?
Take for instance that if there is not inflation caused by uncontrolled monetary emission, if there is not a huge fiscal deficit....there is not fiscal imbalance and, therefore, no adjustment to be made...
The situation is the same as discussing with a religious fanatic...it is simply impossible and useless.
So, most of the politicians with real chances of become president, just two or three, are forced to promise things they won't be able to do.
In addition, sending a satelite almost manufactured abroad and assembly in the country in a good achievement I would hardly believe that the extremely poor people that live in huts without water, gas or electricity will be benefited by this artificial satelite.
To put any Argie into the orbit is a pleasure.Oct 17th, 2014 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The most significant satellite launch of 2014 was this http://www.inmarsat.com/about-us/our-satellites/global-xpress/ from Inmarsat, a British company. I was present at the launch. The satellite was built by Boeing to Inmarsats design and launched on a Russian Proton rocket. 3 of these satellites will provide ultra high speed broadband to ships and the worlds deserts where there is no modern infrastructure. A fourth satellite will be launched as a backup. The satellite has steerable antennae to concentrate services to cities.Oct 17th, 2014 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Arsesat is comparable to this.. Launched in 1971 on a British rocket from Woomera http://www.inmarsat.com/about-us/our-satellites/global-xpress/ Never mind, you are only 40 years out of date. Bahahahaha...
WOW, a geostationary satellite! From the tone of the government, it makes it sound as though it hovers in the heavens OVER Argentina. Unfortunately celestial mechanics and the earth's rotation dictate it's positioning over the earth's equator... just like every OTHER geostationary satellite. (35,786 km over the earth.)Oct 17th, 2014 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Sorry, it's just not that special.
Cristina is right. If she hadn't been elected then perhaps this wouldn't have happened.Oct 18th, 2014 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
But recession, default and stagflation wouldn't have either.
But then, without her, much more could have happened, economically, diplomatically, and above all scientifically. Pity really. But hey there's always Paraguay. ;)Oct 18th, 2014 - 04:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
I once accused CD2 of living in 1953. I have been proved wrong. I stand corrected. I feel abjectly humble regarding my mistake and false accusation.Oct 18th, 2014 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
I would like to apologise to CD2 and the whole Argentine nation.
I am very sorry. Cristina has shown me the light.
In Argentina it is now actually 1958.
Still slightly suspicious about whether it was deliberate or not. Poorly stored explosives on a small warship could easily have led to a ship being launched into orbit.Oct 18th, 2014 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
But what does the satellite do. We are all criticising it as a waste of money but if it does something of value to Argentina or the human race then it deserves a nod of respect. So what does it do? Broadcast patriotic songs? Spy on the Falkland Islanders?
34 axel argOct 18th, 2014 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Are you in space along with that satellite?
'cos your post has absolutely nothing to do with the reality that argentina is facing right now.
This is not the firts time in 11 years that the country faces a complicated economic moment, in fact, 2009 was even worst that this one, and it could improve perfectly
maybe you are in orbit around a different planet and things are looking all rosey from up there. But meanwhile, back in the real REAL world your country men and women are about to be hit by a s**t storm.
In case you missed the launch, here's a re-play....Oct 18th, 2014 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@56Oct 18th, 2014 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Awesome footage dude!
That little boy must think he has the world's coolest Dad, bless!
CFK may well decide to go the North Korean way,Oct 18th, 2014 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
you all vote for me,, or you vote for no one.
@38Oct 18th, 2014 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Well someone had to do it , why not the UK and the USA? Can't do it yourselves can you?
British Military Power Demonstration | 2014 | HDOct 18th, 2014 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
British Military Power Demonstration | 2014 PT2
UK sniper kills six Afghan insurgents with a single bullet in 2013
Longest Sniper shot in the World by a British Soldier on the Taliban 2009
British Special Forces SAS Documentary - Operation Barras
Flota de Mar de la Armada Argentine navy 2014
Argentine Navy and Airforce--- Armada de la República Argentina
keep this up a wow, you might even get a second chance.
A moment of madness.
@ 56 bird's eye viewOct 18th, 2014 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Excellent physics lessons for scientifically minded kids.
Brasso: Brazil just had it's arse handed to it on a plate.
The Voice #49Oct 18th, 2014 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The new Argentinian satellite is not called Arse-Sat
(that would need paper that is in short supply in Bolivar-land).
This really is not anything special. End of story.Oct 19th, 2014 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
They should save their money in case a country like India or China decides to invade Argentina.Oct 19th, 2014 - 03:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Golf I sensed jealousy in 38. It must suck for him to always be looking up and in.Oct 19th, 2014 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Axel, excellent words, reflect the sentiment of the vast majority (silent) of our people.Oct 19th, 2014 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
All countries have difficult times, AND THIS IS ALWAYS EXPLOITED BY ALL those vermins who live in other countries and the only thing that keeps them alive is throwing shit against us.
FOR THIS ANGLOS, THE ONLY THING THAT IS IN YOURS POOR AND SICK MENTALITY IS THE FINANCIAL AND THE SPECULATIVE. HAS NOTHING MORE.
Their countries, historically, have been dedicated to looting, abuse, deceive any other country to which consider inferior for them, EVEN IN THE SAME EUROPE.
For example: DEFAULT IN ICELAND 2008: Iceland's banking collapse is the largest suffered by any country in world economic history.
In late September 2008, it was announced that the Glitnir bank would be nationalized. A week later, control of Landsbanki and Glitnir was handed over to receivers appointed by the Financial Supervisory Authority (FME).
And the answer of England, was placed ICELAND IN YOUR LIST OF TERRORISTS COUNTRIES, IMAGINE THAT, IF THEY ARE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH A NEIGHBOR COUNTRY, YOU CAN DO WITH OTHERS.
True, choose president in 2015, and we must demand that while maintaining the achievements of the last 10 years, solve the problem of inflation and the difference between the peso and the dollar. All this was done in 2004 and we have qualified people to do it again.
Argentina has a wonderful future ahead, and that's what many dislike.
Argentina has everything to do.
They already did and they did wrong, only they were favored and that's what hurt themselves. They, for centuries, formed the basis of his own fall.
Hernan and Axle AarghOct 19th, 2014 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You borrowed $100b from your international investors, most of them individuals with pension funds.
Your government cronies did NOT spend the money to improve Argentina, they kept the money for themselves.
Now, they will not pay it back.
These are the same people that you two want re-elected.
Hernan. Apparently they sell grips in your local store.Oct 19th, 2014 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You should get one.
@54 It broadcasts government propaganda to the whole country (well, digital TV channels that are mostly propaganda). The real reason it was sent is to not lose our satellite orbit slot, and to keep developing technology for future satellites.Oct 20th, 2014 - 02:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
66 HernánOct 20th, 2014 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I think you need a lesson in economics, my friend, where on earth did you get this idea that the first world countries want to destroy Argentina (or any other developing nation)?
The whole point of capitalism is that the capitalists should have customers who can buy their products, which requires that said customers should have a stable economic base with which to PAY for said products. Destroying our economy would be really stupid as it would mean losing 40 million potential clients.
The existence of the FMI shows that capitalism wants every country to have a healthy economy. We are an exception, a country with a suicidal (mis)government, especially in regard to our economy ministry!!!!!!
Simon68 for President!Oct 20th, 2014 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
On a practical note, does this thing actually WORK do we know?
They have had enough time now to prove the thing functions, if it does.
I bet it doesn't! TMBOA is very quiet, it must be the oral thrush she has.
#66 Argentina has a wonderful future ahead, and that's what many dislike.Oct 20th, 2014 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Are you chewing on Evo's coke leaves or smoking crack? You have to be so far buried in a shot bowl to even remotely believe that Argentina has a bright future.
Does everyone realize how you can spot a kirchernite? The new buzzword is Speculative. It use to be vulture funds. Once they create these buzzwords the trolls take the bait and run propagating the new message. These mutated beings knowns as Peronista's and Kirchnerites seem to forget speculating is how people MAKE MONEY. Like the speculating that Nasty Bug eyed Nestor did when he and Asslips Kirchner were stealing property....speculating they can by it low and sell it high. But now it's bad. and her stupid drones who post here repeat her words like a coke headed parrot.
Chris,Oct 20th, 2014 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
she must have tweeted by now.
@ 73 GeoffWard2Oct 20th, 2014 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Thankfully I do not 'twit', or is it 'tweet'because I do not have a 'twitter' account.
I did have a Fb one but got shot of it before all the hackers got hold of it: you could see it was always going to be ripped off; too many numpties on it.
@66Oct 20th, 2014 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Argentina has a wonderful future ahead, and that's what many dislike.
that statement is the inverse of what I think. Argentina has very horrible future ahead, that is what I dislike. You are just to blind to see it. Argentina had the chance, many chances in fact, to be like Australia or Canada, but blew it everytime.
You could be best friends with the Falklands if you chose, part of the Pacific Alliance with Chile, a respected member of the UN. A major producer, even an investor in developing countries like the UK, USA and China are.
A respected political voice on the world stage. A major player.
But no, you keep getting it massively wrong.
Back on topic,Oct 21st, 2014 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Mod @ #4 asks 'when was the last British satellite launched?'
I remember the Blue Streaks and Black Arrows of early solely-British delivery systems, with Ariel, Skynet, Zircon etc.
But latterly the delivery systems have become 'work-horses' - and multinational at that. Commercially, it's better to buy space in rockets.
The British Skylon will be the first 'commercial' multi-use reaction engine delivery system.
South America must take a little pride that Ariane 5 is launched from the continent. (Astrium is the Prime Contractor)
No, Britain has developed a big industry in Satellites themselves.
My long-term home in Stevenage with Astrium (British Aerospace) and MBDA (ex-BAe Systems and Airbus) as the big satellite and missile leaders of Europe, produces some of the most sophisticated space vehicles in the world.
I remember Sputnik when it was launched - it went Bleep and did very little else.
My guess is that ARSAT 1/2/3 are pretty basic platforms also.
If you believe TMBOA on this one ARSTA1 has taken TEN YEARS into space.Oct 21st, 2014 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I have no idea how the 'scientists' have coped with having their technology overtaken many times by the ever moving telecommunications standards: perhaps that's why nobody has heard from it yet, it's doing analogue switching and single sideband radio.
Ha, ha, ha.
maybe it is on dial-up and they haven't figured out the modems yet?Oct 21st, 2014 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Apparently it weighs as much as Fat Max, that's why it took ten years to launch. However, I'm told his lifespan is shorter but he can communicate quicker, when not dribbling...
53... Does your bum grow bigger and bigger everytime you say the same thing??Oct 22nd, 2014 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0